$6-8k, looking for suggestions

[n3Xro]

So, looking for a new bike, have up to 8K to spend now trying to figure out what to go for.
I'm set on something around the 600cc mark ideally 25-30,000km and newer the better.

I'm stepping up from 2 years on a Ninja 250 so this will be my first full license bike. Wont be needing it as a daily ride like my Ninja was, more looking at it for weekend rides and possibly a few track days.
So far have sat on a number of bikes and have no issue with the body position needed for the sportbikes ie GSXR, R6 and ZX6R.


Have a bit of a thing for the 05/06 model 636 zx6r's but have no idea on what is a reasonable price(most people have rejected my bag of chips offers...) and most of the ones on TradeMe seem to be up around the 40,000km+ mark and asking around 7-7.5

Am I expecting too much for the money I want to spend?

Thoughts suggestions etc welcome...

[ducatilover]

You're not expecting too much mate, it's just the retarded prices people ask for 600s here. You can buy a K5/6 Gixxer thou for the same money as a Gixxer 6...

Anyhoo,
The nicest of the lot to ride on the road IMHO is the 05 on CBR600, excellent bikes.
I'm a fan of the 636 and 6RR (the RR has heaps of tasty bits stuck on it, decent suspension adjustment, radial brakes, cassette gearbox, adjustable swing arm pivot, forged pistons blah-de-blah)

But if your budget can manage a Daytona 675 or a Street trip, you must try them before thinking of others

Alternatively, buy a 'Busa

[Big Dog]

Seems to have been a gradual increase in the price of a 600 along with a reduction in selling prices for 1l+ bikes. . My recommendation would be don't focus on cc unless you have a specific need such as the track days you want to do are not open to 1l+ in your class. . Focus on the best bike for you.
Example? When I was looking for a clean CB900 I found a CB1300 was a better fit and about a grand and a half cheaper. A little thirstier though.

What will you do most with your bike?
Track days and away days? Cool so do you actually want a sport bike or just one that is set up well enough to go to 3 track days a year? Or are you going to every track day on the calendar?
Are you a big unit or a jockey?
Bigger bikes are easier to set up for bigger riders and have more upgrades avail.



Stupid phone / Tapatalk, apologies in advance.

[n3Xro]

The nicest of the lot to ride on the road IMHO is the 05 on CBR600, excellent bikes.
I'm a fan of the 636 and 6RR (the RR has heaps of tasty bits stuck on it, decent suspension adjustment, radial brakes, cassette gearbox, adjustable swing arm pivot, forged pistons blah-de-blah)
But if your budget can manage a Daytona 675 or a Street trip, you must try them before thinking of others
Alternatively, buy a 'Busa

Hmm hadnt really thought of the Honda's though a quick scan they seem to be in the same ballpark as the other 600's. Will see if I can find either of the 675's to get a closer look.
Busa is tempting but also think 250cc-1300cc may be a little bit of a leap (that and SWMBO keeps nixxing things like the z1000 I was looking at...)


Track days and away days? Cool so do you actually want a sport bike or just one that is set up well enough to go to 3 track days a year? Or are you going to every track day on the calendar?
Are you a big unit or a jockey?
Bigger bikes are easier to set up for bigger riders and have more upgrades avail.

Not for racing
TBH for me part of it is going to be the look of the bike, I'll be looking to start with just a couple of track days and see how it goes, I want somewhere that I can see what the bike is capable of that isnt the road.
I'd be on the larger end of the spectrum, just over 6 foot and 105kg.
Guess I'm trying to not get myself in trouble jumping onto too much bike to quickly.

[ducatilover]

Hmm hadnt really thought of the Honda's though a quick scan they seem to be in the same ballpark as the other 600's. Will see if I can find either of the 675's to get a closer look.
Busa is tempting but also think 250cc-1300cc may be a little bit of a leap (that and SWMBO keeps nixxing things like the z1000 I was looking at...)




The Honda is the best built and has a lovely motor, real smooth and easy to ride, still goes like fuck though (all propper 600s do anyway)
The 636 has more of a ballsy feel and a grouse top end, as does the 6RR.
The 06 onwards R6 is a peaky cunt and harsh to ride on the road in comparison to the rest, but mega fun
The 675 is grogeous, and has a stonking motor, handles beautifully. Mighty machine
The K5/6 600 Gixxer does everything it is meant to, great bike. Just lacks the refinement of the Honda, but IMO a better build quality than the Kawasaki

They're all hella fun to ride. So really, whatever fits you bestest

[Ruahine]

The Honda is the best built and has a lovely motor, real smooth and easy to ride, still goes like fuck though (all propper 600s do anyway)
The 636 has more of a ballsy feel and a grouse top end, as does the 6RR.
The 06 onwards R6 is a peaky cunt and harsh to ride on the road in comparison to the rest, but mega fun
The 675 is grogeous, and has a stonking motor, handles beautifully. Mighty machine
The K5/6 600 Gixxer does everything it is meant to, great bike. Just lacks the refinement of the Honda, but IMO a better build quality than the Kawasaki

They're all hella fun to ride. So really, whatever fits you bestest

Thats a pretty accurate summary of the 600 market I reckon. I rode a few before I bought mine 4 years ago.

My two cents worth, get on a few and try them out. Its all personal preference and you might not like some of them and rule them out.

I reckon you should be able to find a Gixxer, CBR, Kawa or R6 in your price range. Might struggle to find a Daytona for 8K though.

[n3Xro]

Thats a pretty accurate summary of the 600 market I reckon. I rode a few before I bought mine 4 years ago.
My two cents worth, get on a few and try them out. Its all personal preference and you might not like some of them and rule them out.
I reckon you should be able to find a Gixxer, CBR, Kawa or R6 in your price range. Might struggle to find a Daytona for 8K though.

What sort of K's would you be expecting on a 600 for 8k though? Theres a handful asking $7,500 give or take $500 but all showing 40,000+ which just seems high for the $$$ involved. I've even found a CBR600RR with 109,000ks wanting $7495....

[Big Dog]

Some people don't actually want to sell their bikes. Some are listed perpetually for more than the owner paid.
At a buck oh five in weight you will want to pay attention to max laden weight. I forget which ones but some middle weights have 2 up recommendations under a buck. This is a pretty good indicator or the how the shock will cope or will you need to spend a grand on that. It is also an indication how much weight the subframe ( the bit of the frame the seat is on, usually from the spar back) can take.


Stupid phone / Tapatalk, apologies in advance.

[Big Dog]

Also don't rule out a 750 or a 900.


Stupid phone / Tapatalk, apologies in advance.

[EJK]

What sort of K's would you be expecting on a 600 for 8k though? Theres a handful asking $7,500 give or take $500 but all showing 40,000+ which just seems high for the $$$ involved.

I think that's reasonable. Fairly new-ish models (2010+) with low kms you are looking at above $10k (dealer price).

But then again, I recall seeing some litre bikes (GSXR K2 or 3s, 2003 R1s) on sale sub 40,000km around $8k mark... I think.

[Ender EnZed]

Guys that want $7k+ for ~10 year old 600s are fucking dreaming. 6-8k is a perfectly reasonable budget, you just might have to wait a bit for the right bike.

The 600 super sport market is driven more by what people have to spend than anything else but it's worth remembering that a brand new GSXR600 is only $13k at the moment. Once you hit the base line you tend to get more out of each extra dollar than the one preceding it. i.e. given a $1 reserve auction with everything else equal a raped 2003 GSXR600 might go for $4k while a reasonable 2006 goes for 6 and a tidy 2011 would go for 8.

[mossy1200]

6foot 105kg
Idd buy a 1k if I was you as long as you have some self control. The first one (CBR) is most likely easiest to ride.

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-855452467.htm Suggest go look at the paint job though.

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-854498085.htm

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-852597950.htm

[EJK]

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-852597950.htm

That. I would SERIOUSLY consider that. Full open Yoshimura pipes sound AWESOME on GSXR1000s.

K8s were last of the best looking GSXRs in my preference.

[rustyrobot]

That. I would SERIOUSLY consider that. Full open Yoshimura pipes sound AWESOME on GSXR1000s.

K8s were last of the best looking GSXRs in my preference.

I reckon that will definitely push over the $8k mark though, and that ZX10R looks meeeeean in satin black.

Mossy will find you a bike n3xro - he's a trademe ninja.

[mossy1200]

I reckon that will definitely push over the $8k mark though, and that ZX10R looks meeeeean in satin black.

Mossy will find you a bike n3xro - he's a trademe ninja.

The zx10 I think would go on a 8k offer. It would be my pick but I have a few years riding experience.
The gsxr will likely land 9k-9.5k im thinking.
The cbr is likely a more forgiving bike to ride and is good value. Suggest go look at the paint job though.

[DIYDan]

I've recently gone from a Ninja 250 to a CBR1000RR. I had my mind set on a CBR600RR for a couple of years, until I had an opportunity to ride an R6, and R1.

I found I enjoyed the low end power of the 1000cc more. It's true the 1000's have greater acceleration and top speed, but the 600's aren't slow either. I'd say if you can't control the power of the 1000cc machines, I doubt you'd have more success on the 600cc's.

Remember when you're gunning that 600 full tit and a car pulls out in front of you; if you'd been on a 1000, it would be pulling out behind you. :cool:

[carburator]

I've recently gone from a Ninja 250 to a CBR1000RR. I had my mind set on a CBR600RR for a couple of years, until I had an opportunity to ride an R6, and R1.

I found I enjoyed the low end power of the 1000cc more. It's true the 1000's have greater acceleration and top speed, but the 600's aren't slow either. I'd say if you can't control the power of the 1000cc machines, I doubt you'd have more success on the 600cc's.

Remember when you're gunning that 600 full tit and a car pulls out in front of you; if you'd been on a 1000, it would be pulling out behind you. :cool:

And That's why you will be one of those flys we pick off the bullbars of the trucks.

[Akzle]

SWMBO keeps nixxing things like the z1000 I was looking at...


you need a new one, sounds like yours is defective.

[DIYDan]

And That's why you will be one of those flys we pick off the bullbars of the trucks.

I think you missed the point I was trying to make.

A couple of months back, I did 2,200Km on a 250, over 36hrs. At no time would I have been safer on a bigger bike. No one needs anything more than that on the road.

If you have concerns that you won't be able to handle a 1000cc sports bike, because it's too big a bike. Then the same must apply to the 600cc sports bike.

Are 1000cc bikes more dangerous than 600cc? Or is it more likely people that invite risk into their lives, become drawn the the extra power of the 1000cc bikes?

If you take either bike to it's limit, they are both as likely to kill you.

[BuzzardNZ]

I think you missed the point I was trying to make.

A couple of months back, I did 2,200Km on a 250, over 36hrs. At no time would I have been safer on a bigger bike. No one needs anything more than that on the road.

If you have concerns that you won't be able to handle a 1000cc sports bike, because it's too big a bike. Then the same must apply to the 600cc sports bike.

Are 1000cc bikes more dangerous than 600cc? Or is it more likely people that invite risk into their lives, become drawn the the extra power of the 1000cc bikes?

If you take either bike to it's limit, they are both as likely to kill you.

I kind of agree with some of your points re 600 vs 1000, but moving up from a 250 to either is a hell of a jump in my book!

I honestly think the old system ( pre lams ) was safer for learners, well it was 4 me, i did the old 125 --> 250 --> 400 --> 600 --> 1000 route, it just don't seem right to me that a learner can ride away on a 600+ as their 1st bike :spanking::spanking:

[Big Dog]

I went 100 > 250 > 250 > 1100 > 1300 > 110 > 350 > 1300.
The 100 was easily the most dangerous. Once moving pursing my lips and blowing would have probably slowed me quicker than the brakes did.

From the 110 on there was some concurrency.

Hayabusa easily the safest bike. Best brakes and more than once cracking the taps wide open and gritting my teeth as I hung on for dear life and pointed at the only gap was the only reason I survived. Braking so hard my visor popped wide open was also a saviour a few times. Ironically not speeding at the time.

Except on the open road more than 100cc is just stretching your diddle out to see who's is bigger. My preference for bigger bikes has more to do with the fact that bigger bikes tend to come with better suspenders ( real important at a buck and a half plus gear ) , better brakes ( did i mention I add > 150kg to the moving mass?) more leg room, better lights, handle bars that don't hit my knees, and the possibility of taking a pillion.

Stupid phone / Tapatalk, apologies in advance.

[n3Xro]

you need a new one, sounds like yours is defective.

Thanks but married this one so getting a new one would cost me more than an hp4...

[haydes55]

I wouldn't rule out the Z1000. I did the jump from my learners bike (KLX300 badged as a 250). To a Z1000, it only goes as fast as I twist my wrist. It's heavier than a 600 and has comparable HP with more torque.

Hornet 900 would be another good step up bike. Just because they have bug engines, doesn't make them dangerous. Think of it like LAMs, an RS250 isn't approved and a gsx650fu is. Cc isn't everything.

Also would you rather have a bike that can overtake by rolling on the power in 6th gear at 100km/h, or drop a couple cogs and rev it to the red line? 600's are often a lot more revvy and need tore work on the gear lever to get the most out of them. A Z1000 would be a lazier more relaxed bike to ride. Plus being naked, my neck hurts if I spend over an hour going above 140km/h

[Akzle]

At no time would I have been safer on a bigger bike. No one needs anything more than that on the road.

If you have concerns that you won't be able to handle a 1000cc sports bike, because it's too big a bike.

Are 1000cc bikes more dangerous than 600cc? Or is it more likely people that invite risk into their lives, become drawn the the extra power of the 1000cc bikes?

If you take either bike to it's limit, they are both as likely to kill you.

utter, utter, horseshit.

1) your safety is entirely in your hands, irrespective of if you're on a 2.1lt v6 whore-rendous motorbike, or a fucking moped.

2) do you know this guy personally??
"i have concerns" - that's nice dear. keep them to yourself.

3) see 1). no bike is "more dangerous" due to displacement.

4) have you heard of this wee thing called the GP? - it's this minor event where talented individuals take bikes, tyres, engineering, and themselves to the limit and don't kill themselves.
again, see 1). if you take a 50cc to YOUR limit, it will kill you just as quickly as a turbo busa.


it just don't seem right to me that a learner can ride away on a 600+ as their 1st bike :spanking::spanking:
but they're mmmmmmmmaaaaverage pieces of thumping shit. it's not like you can jump on a 600RR. legally.



Except on the open road more than 100cc is just stretching your diddle out to see who's is bigger. My preference for bigger bikes has more to do with the fact that bigger bikes tend to come with better suspenders ( real important at a buck and a half plus gear ) , better brakes ( did i mention I add > 150kg to the moving mass?) more leg room, better lights, handle bars that don't hit my knees, and the possibility of taking a pillion.

no. and yes.
'round town anything up to 500 is "practical"

many 250s, especially if they were necked down 400 models, have brakes and suspenders up to the task. but yeah. the more you pay. the more you get.

[Asher]

My 2cents. I have a 06 636 and 2 others I ride with have 636's too. None of us paid more than $7500 for them and mine had 14000kms on the clock and the others are around20-25000kms on the clocks. They are great bikes and the 636cc engine makes impressive power although the brakes are mediocre and they are known for weak 2nd gears.

Just be patient and I'm sure you will be able to find a tidy low kms bike for under 8k

[Grashopper]

I wouldn't rule out the Z1000. I did the jump from my learners bike (KLX300 badged as a 250). To a Z1000, it only goes as fast as I twist my wrist. It's heavier than a 600 and has comparable HP with more torque.


I don't know. If I remember correctly your motorbike background was a bit more comprehensive than the random garden variety of learner rider's. ;)

[Ender EnZed]

utter, utter, horseshit.

1) your safety is entirely in your hands, irrespective of if you're on a 2.1lt v6 whore-rendous motorbike, or a fucking moped.

2) do you know this guy personally??
"i have concerns" - that's nice dear. keep them to yourself.

3) see 1). no bike is "more dangerous" due to displacement.

4) have you heard of this wee thing called the GP? - it's this minor event where talented individuals take bikes, tyres, engineering, and themselves to the limit and don't kill themselves.
again, see 1). if you take a 50cc to YOUR limit, it will kill you just as quickly as a turbo busa.


I'm fairly sure you missed his point, since you just reiterated it in a slightly more abusive tone.

[DIYDan]

utter, utter, horseshit.
1) your safety is entirely in your hands, irrespective of if you're on a 2.1lt v6 whore-rendous motorbike, or a fucking moped.

You enjoy a spot of fishing? Got a nice red herring their.



2) do you know this guy personally??
"i have concerns" - that's nice dear. keep them to yourself.

Maybe you’d like to, lead by example?



3) see 1). no bike is "more dangerous" due to displacement.

See #19



4) have you heard of this wee thing called the GP? - it's this minor event where talented individuals take bikes, tyres, engineering, and themselves to the limit and don't kill themselves.

The main difference is, this event doesn’t take place on an open public road.

I’ll reiterate what I’ve already said; just so everyone's clear. I started off on the same bike as the opening poster. I also had my mind set on a 600cc because I thought a 1000cc was just asking for trouble. Until a rode one and came to the realisation that there is no difference when road riding. If anything, the 1000cc handles nicer at open road speeds, and when overtaking.

As has been discussed, I wouldn’t worry so much about engine capacity. If a 750 or 1000 comes along and it’s the style or model you’re after, at the right price, don’t turn it down, because it’s more than 600cc.

The fuel economy for the Ninja, I found, was around 22Km/L, my CBR1000 is around 17Km/L; a CBR600RR is about the same. It’s hard to come up with a good reason to stay, just with the 600cc bikes. If you’re capable of riding a Kawasaki 636, you’re capable of riding anything.

[Akzle]

I'm fairly sure you missed his point, since you just reiterated it in a slightly more abusive tone.
if that is in fact the case, i eat my hat.

but since the words don't seem to line up with that.... i playem as they're dealt.


Maybe you’d like to, lead by example?
frequently. i do.
i have no concerns about this rider.
thus none of my sentences have started with "i have concerns about you'..."
[quote]The main difference is, this event doesn’t take place on an open public road. [/quote[
yes. that's entirely relevant to taking responsibility for your own shit.


wait. no it isn't.

[n3Xro]

Hmm thanks for the feedback all, definitely have a few more options on my list now.
TBH at least some of the reason for going to 600cc was the familiarity, I've ridden a 600 before, haven't ridden a 1000. Will definitely give that a try before making the decision on where to spend my cash.

PS. Mods may be worth letting people know if there's a reason their threads get moved, I listed a query about supersports bikes in the sports bike thread only for it to end up in the newbie/wannabe bikers forum... did I miss something? or is the sport bike thread just for queries about locks and alarms?

[caspernz]

that and SWMBO keeps nixxing things like the z1000 I was looking at...

This is a common problem, and some of us use creative methods to overcome such objections, not all of them reverting to Neanderthal tendencies...:laugh:...although when I've upgraded in the past I offered to pack the suitcase for She Who Thought She Must Be Obeyed...:eek:

Guess I'm trying to not get myself in trouble jumping onto too much bike to quickly.

If you've got enough self discipline that's not a huge issue, heck, even a 600 will land you in court or hospital if you lack the will power to keep it sane.

Consider also the larger naked bike option. CB1300 or even a Bandit 1250. Sensible second hand options in your budget range.

[n3Xro]

Any thoughts on this?

http://www.trademe.co.nz/link.aspx?i=12121&id=856373644

Seems like a good middle ground between the 600 and 1000's

[mossy1200]

Any thoughts on this?

http://www.trademe.co.nz/link.aspx?i=12121&id=856373644

Seems like a good middle ground between the 600 and 1000's

Your call.
Be aware that's not a has fallen over damage though. Clipons replaced and levers replaced because they were damaged and the muffler shows it was sliding along the road rather than fallen over. End weight on rt handle bar gone.

Would be good value if hadn't been in the wars.

[mossy1200]

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-838271398.htm

offer this guy 7800

[Banditbandit]

If you're going down the GSXR750 route . have a look at this one ...


http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-815184630.htm

309789

[jasonu]

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-838271398.htm

offer this guy 7800

You would think someone trying to sell a $9000 item would take better pictures. These look like they were taken on a cheap cell phone. It is all about presentation.

[Big Dog]

You would think someone trying to sell a $9000 item would take better pictures. These look like they were taken on a cheap cell phone. It is all about presentation.

Agreed. The one above your post appears to be parked over several oil spots.


Stupid phone / Tapatalk, apologies in advance.

[98tls]

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-838271398.htm

offer this guy 7800

:niceone:Though i reckon start at $7250 and leave your phone number.

[98tls]

Any thoughts on this?

http://www.trademe.co.nz/link.aspx?i=12121&id=856373644

Seems like a good middle ground between the 600 and 1000's

"aftermarket levers a must for any bike":laugh:

[Sushi Bandit]

I went from a Hyosung 250 to a naked Bandit 1200. I was 17 years old at the time. I didn't crash, get tickets or die. It's up to you as to what you think you can handle mate.


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[n3Xro]

Keeping a close eye on this at the moment. http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-855452467.htm
Anything to pay particular attention to on the CBR's?

[mossy1200]

Keeping a close eye on this at the moment. http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-855452467.htm
Anything to pay particular attention to on the CBR's?

Yes
Go and look at the paint job on that bike. It doesn't look good in the pictures and could look worse in the flesh.

[WNJ]

Anything to pay particular attention to on the CBR's?

ONLY THE HOMOS THAT RIDE THEM :bleh:

[n3Xro]

Yes
Go and look at the paint job on that bike. It doesn't look good in the pictures and could look worse in the flesh.

Thanks, it comes across as a matte black in the pic's and I couldnt find any references to originals that looked like that so suspect they are aftermarket ie http://www.monsterfairings.com/honda-fairing-cbr1000rr-06-07-matt-black.html
Not averse to it if they are matte will be looking closely for any signs of damage though



ONLY THE HOMOS THAT RIDE THEM :bleh:

But your profile clearly shows that you ride a zx6r.... guess its not just confined to Honda's :innocent:

[ducatilover]

Yes
Go and look at the paint job on that bike. It doesn't look good in the pictures and could look worse in the flesh.

This.

It looks like blackboard paint applied by Ray Charles with his feet.
Matt black will oxidise and end up looking even shittier.

[f2dz]

If you're interested in supersports then the best thing to do is to ride them all.

If Hamilton is anything like Auckland a lot of dealers won't have demos of their main models which is a royal pain in the arse, namely Yamaha and Kawasaki. I couldn't find any dealer in Auckland to test ride a ZX6 or an R6.

I'd vouch for a GSXR750 though, so long as you don't ever plan on stepping back down to a 600.

[Ender EnZed]

Keeping a close eye on this at the moment. http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-855452467.htm
Anything to pay particular attention to on the CBR's?

I don't even want to imagine what kind of life a bike must have had to end up painted matte black with fluro green rims.

[n3Xro]

If you're interested in supersports then the best thing to do is to ride them all.

If Hamilton is anything like Auckland a lot of dealers won't have demos of their main models which is a royal pain in the arse, namely Yamaha and Kawasaki. I couldn't find any dealer in Auckland to test ride a ZX6 or an R6.

I'd vouch for a GSXR750 though, so long as you don't ever plan on stepping back down to a 600.

Would if I could but you pretty much summed it up. They don't even seem interested in letting you ride the second hand bikes unless you show them you're keen to buy right away on your return.


I don't even want to imagine what kind of life a bike must have had to end up painted matte black with fluro green rims.

If its a paint job then not so keen. Dont mind if its just custom fairings, will see what its like in person.
I was getting the impression from the pics that it had a matte paint job and had just been washed hence that different sheens. The pic showing the HESD seemed to support this(spots on the tank area that looked like water spots)

[RideLife]

I have one of my two RGV250 VJ23's coming up for sale soon.
The VJ23 was the last of the RGV two strokes ever made, - Electric start model.

To some - nothing better for a weekend or trackday bike.

New WoF, Reg on hold. Looking for $4000.

Just an option.

[Big Dog]

It can be a bit of a tough call sending someone out on a middleweight. I don't speak for all or indeed any specific bike shop but: Experience says the >1l crowd are more likely to return the bike in good order.

Handing over the keys to $10k used to be a simple affair, any losses born by insurance. Not so simple anymore.

When I wanted to send someone out for a test ride I had to be able to answer a longer laundry list for a middle weight. Can they buy? When have they indicated they intend to buy? Have they ridden bigger than a 250 before? Is the ink dry on their license yet?

Most riders looking for a larger bike have a trade in and better disposable income, many are older, some are more mature.

If your salesperson gets a good vibe from you they may overturn a rule. If they get a bad one they will find a reason to hold out.

I sold a >$20k bike to a homeless looking dude. But he had to bring proof of funds and a license.

Given some of the stories you hear about people going on a few test rides a year rather than own a bike, doing a runner after dropping the bike, trying to trade in the bike elsewhere, leaving it as security at another shop etc, etc, etc.
The premiums get steep real fast if you don't keep a close eye.

I have heard that the shops excess with some insurers is lower for >1l.

If you want a test ride:
Do:
Dress appropriately.
Tell the truth about your ability to pay and proposed timeline.
Bring you license and proof of address ( most don't require it but could be the difference if your salesman is on the fence).
Be specific in what you want from a bike. 1 or 2 test rides is easy 15 is taking the piss.

Don't:
Talk about how fast you are or awesome wheelies are.
Lie to your salesman or they will assume all you have said is a lie.
Boast about your track skills.


Stupid phone / Tapatalk, apologies in advance.

[WNJ]

Pm me if ya want to try a ZX6R for size

[n3Xro]

Thanks for the offer, just bit the bullet and won an auction... should soon be the proud owner of http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-852597950.htm

[Akzle]

Thanks for the offer, just bit the bullet and won an auction... should soon be the proud owner of http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-852597950.htm

that will give you wood all day long.

[f2dz]

Thanks for the offer, just bit the bullet and won an auction... should soon be the proud owner of http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-852597950.htm

And people thought I was crazy going from a 250 to a 750. Awesome bike - I'm jealous.

Have fun with it. Ride safe.

[Banditbandit]

Thanks for the offer, just bit the bullet and won an auction... should soon be the proud owner of http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-852597950.htm

Awesome ... have fun on it ... I'm sure you will ... remember you don't have to go all out all the time ... and then you'll have even more fun on it ...

[n3Xro]

And people thought I was crazy going from a 250 to a 750. Awesome bike - I'm jealous.

Have fun with it. Ride safe.

One consideration in going to this one was the engine mode buttons... C for a at least a few minutes first.

[Mike.Gayner]

Thanks for the offer, just bit the bullet and won an auction... should soon be the proud owner of http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-852597950.htm

Fuck yeah, awesome choice.

[Big Dog]

Cool bike mister.

[mossy1200]

You did well on the price. Expected it to go into the 9s.
the good thing about a fast bike is you shouldn't feel like you need prove its a fast bike to anyone.
Take things easy and respect the grunt. Also keep your licence intact.

[n3Xro]

You did well on the price. Expected it to go into the 9s.
the good thing about a fast bike is you shouldn't feel like you need prove its a fast bike to anyone.
Take things easy and respect the grunt. Also keep your licence intact.

Thanks for the pointers in the first place, didnt expect to get it tbh... put the auto bid on and walked away...
Thats the plan, will definitely be taking it too the track and lining up the CSbS days to learn how to use it.

[haydes55]

You did well on the price. Expected it to go into the 9s.

the good thing about a fast bike is you shouldn't feel like you need prove its a fast bike to anyone.

Take things easy and respect the grunt. Also keep your licence intact.



Thanks for the pointers in the first place, didnt expect to get it tbh... put the auto bid on and walked away...

Thats the plan, will definitely be taking it too the track and lining up the CSbS days to learn how to use it.
very sharp price! Respect the power you have, remember you don't need to use it all.

[n3Xro]

Picked up the bike this afternoon.... Rode home... Holysh"t... Went out to dinner... Apparently I don't need my wife anymore just the bike and fried chicken skin

[Mike.Gayner]

I'm actually very jealous right now.

[mossy1200]

Picked up the bike this afternoon.... Rode home... Holysh"t... Went out to dinner... Apparently I don't need my wife anymore just the bike and fried chicken skin

Keep riding before this happens to you.
She will load you up with baggage and take away your undercarriage.

[mossy1200]

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-879202500.htm

good value possibly