Playday on track twilight Tuesday 24 March [Archive]

biketimus_prime

7th March 2015, 17:13

http://www.playdayontrack.co.nz/news.php

TUESDAY 24 MARCH TWILIGHT BIKES
3 Groups, Fast, Medium & Novice Hampton Downs $80

I am gutted I missed out on the ART days and I really need to do some track days.
I have done pukekohe many times in a car and understand race lines as such but this is completely different being Hampton downs and on a bike. Is it possible to teach myself?
Or anyone on here going or know if I can maybe ask experienced riders there for some basic coaching so I can learn the lines and how to ride on the track?

I don't want to go if I can't learn alone and end up teaching myself bad habits or follow others who aren't as good either and learn bad habits from them...

nzspokes

7th March 2015, 17:36

biketimus_prime

8th March 2015, 08:07

There will be marshals you can follow. If you are on a GSX250 then go novice for everybodys safety.

I may do that one.

Cheers. Good to know I can follow marshals. Haha I was not thinking of going anywhere except novice!

Shaun Harris

8th March 2015, 12:17

There will be marshals you can follow. If you are on a GSX250 then go novice for everybodys safety.

I may do that one.

Can you ride as fast as you want to in the fast group, or do you have to follow or remain behind marshalls?

nzspokes

8th March 2015, 12:21

Can you ride as fast as you want to in the fast group, or do you have to follow or remain behind marshalls?

Yeah you can go nuts. Marshall following was just for a novice to find lines. Im finding some marshalls just get in the way.

Shaun Harris

8th March 2015, 12:28

Yeah you can go nuts. Marshall following was just for a novice to find lines. Im finding some marshalls just get in the way.

So is the OP correct that there is a twilight meet there on the 24th of march? as when I click on the link, it does not show this.

Tazz

8th March 2015, 13:14

So is the OP correct that there is a twilight meet there on the 24th of march? as when I click on the link, it does not show this.

http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQAo4YG-8FqZ2qOe0igSmfJ1vBTt5nJfqtGyIGl8O38jBF-P5eS

gjm

8th March 2015, 13:45

$80 looks a good deal.

Presumably the usual requirements for protective gear apply? Minimum two-piece zip together suit for slow group, one-piece for the others?

nzspokes

8th March 2015, 15:21

$80 looks a good deal.

Presumably the usual requirements for protective gear apply? Minimum two-piece zip together suit for slow group, one-piece for the others?

You would have to look on the site but 270 degree zip, leather and back protector recommended from memory.

FROSTY

9th March 2015, 09:41

wrong link try this one http://www.hdticketing.co.nz/index.php/cPath/76

FROSTY

9th March 2015, 09:46

http://www.hdticketing.co.nz/index.php/cPath/76

TUESDAY 24 MARCH TWILIGHT BIKES
3 Groups, Fast, Medium & Novice Hampton Downs $80

I am gutted I missed out on the ART days and I really need to do some track days.
I have done pukekohe many times in a car and understand race lines as such but this is completely different being Hampton downs and on a bike. Is it possible to teach myself?
Or anyone on here going or know if I can maybe ask experienced riders there for some basic coaching so I can learn the lines and how to ride on the track?

I don't want to go if I can't learn alone and end up teaching myself bad habits or follow others who aren't as good either and learn bad habits from them...
I don't know what the rules are with the guys that run these track days and sure don't want to cause issues with them. On that basis
My advice would be to turn up. Sighn is and ask to speak to one of the organisers. Specifically ask them if a lines bike/marshal can lead you round the track.
I'd offer to help but in all honesty Im currently so slow that paint drys faster.
I'd also suggest you get your bike checked over to ensure its good to go for the track.

sil3nt

9th March 2015, 09:58

I don't miss too many playdays so here is my advice:

At the end of the riders briefing they ask all first timers to the track to stick behind. Most of these guys are in novice group so after a brief discussion they all meet at the end of the pitlane and follow the one of the lines bike out behind the rest of the group. The lines bike does a lap pointing out the marshall points and then does a second lap showing the proper lines / turn in points. The idea is each bike follows the one in front on the correct line but as you can imagine the further back you are the further from the ideal line you will find yourself as people tend to turn in way too early.

If they no longer do this then you can ask one of the instructors to show you the lines and they are always happy to do this.

They don't do gear or bike checks although they do check you have your helmet correctly fastened 90% of the time.

Back protector isn't required but obviously recommended. Two piece leathers will be fine.

There is no end of 'experts' in the garages...I find it best to smile and nod and ignore most of what they say! A bit like this forum really :innocent:

FROSTY

9th March 2015, 10:06

heres a link -with both the correct place to book tickets and the FAQ's

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/173541-EVENING-trackday-at-hampton-downs-24-3-2015

FROSTY

9th March 2015, 10:15

I don't miss too many playdays so here is my advice:

serious question for you dude
Turn 6 being double apex. Do you go out wide/turn in late so ingle apex it higher up ? Ie whats your preferred line.
Also Turn 3 - are you staying wide from 2 and turning in on the crest or another alternative.
Those are the two that are doing my head in currently -grass cutting on 6 and wheelspin exiting 3

sil3nt

9th March 2015, 10:37

serious question for you dude
Turn 6 being double apex. Do you go out wide/turn in late so ingle apex it higher up ? Ie whats your preferred line.
Also Turn 3 - are you staying wide from 2 and turning in on the crest or another alternative.
Those are the two that are doing my head in currently -grass cutting on 6 and wheelspin exiting 3I may do a lot of trackdays but I am still very slow! I am only a 400 so my lines will end up being a bit different from 600s and 1000s.

Turn 6 I am currently holding a tight line which is something I need to stop doing. Like you I just end up grass cutting. I would like to turn in earlier with more speed and then come back and hit the second apex as I get hard on the gas.

Turn 2 I always turn in way too early. I tend to be middle of the road and turning in on the crest of 3.

Basically i'm the wrong person to ask. Turn 6 I turn to late and too slow and turn 2 I am to early and too slow.

I like watching Jason Hulme as he nails the lines perfectly almost every time: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFaPIxnTs6M
Same bike as me but doing 1:13s not 1:30s :lol:

Mental Trousers

9th March 2015, 11:35

I have done pukekohe many times in a car and understand race lines as such but this is completely different being Hampton downs and on a bike. Is it possible to teach myself?
Or anyone on here going or know if I can maybe ask experienced riders there for some basic coaching so I can learn the lines and how to ride on the track?

I don't want to go if I can't learn alone and end up teaching myself bad habits or follow others who aren't as good either and learn bad habits from them...
My advice would be to turn up. Sighn is and ask to speak to one of the organisers. Specifically ask them if a lines bike/marshal can lead you round the track.

Ed or Ash can show you around. Ash is one of the California Superbike School coaches. Just ask. That or sign up for one of the Honda days and get Aaron Slight to show you around.

FROSTY

9th March 2015, 12:59

I may do a lot of trackdays but I am still very slow! I am only a 400 so my lines will end up being a bit different from 600s and 1000s.

Turn 6 I am currently holding a tight line which is something I need to stop doing. Like you I just end up grass cutting. I would like to turn in earlier with more speed and then come back and hit the second apex as I get hard on the gas.

Turn 2 I always turn in way too early. I tend to be middle of the road and turning in on the crest of 3.

Basically i'm the wrong person to ask. Turn 6 I turn to late and too slow and turn 2 I am to early and too slow.

I like watching Jason Hulme as he nails the lines perfectly almost every time: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFaPIxnTs6M
Same bike as me but doing 1:13s not 1:30s :lol:
that vid makes the track look almost flat.-you don't get that sense of elevation change you get in real life
It looks to me like Jason goes wider-left into 6 and turns later when he hasn't got someone trying to steal an inside line and force him wide
I might try a really exaggerated version -almost wait till I run off track before turning in

Shaun Harris

9th March 2015, 13:43

that vid makes the track look almost flat.-you don't get that sense of elevation change you get in real life

YO, book me a spot for the eve event, and consider that part payment for the Yosh ECU mate OK ??

FROSTY

9th March 2015, 14:20

YO, book me a spot for the eve event, and consider that part payment for the Yosh ECU mate OK ??
fuk U don't ask for much do ya mate??
But Kylie said as she doesn't know your experience level she will have to book you into the slow group

gjm

9th March 2015, 14:35

I like watching Jason Hulme as he nails the lines perfectly almost every time: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFaPIxnTs6M

Great vid for lines. I'll worry about elevation later - it's not as if I'd be going fast enough for that to be an issue!

FROSTY

9th March 2015, 14:57

Great vid for lines. I'll worry about elevation later - it's not as if I'd be going fast enough for that to be an issue!
Mate its not an "issue" but it sure adds a whole new dimension to the track. -In the vid the steepness of the rise to T3 looks like nothing. And the drop down to the hairpin-T5 looks minor. But it really is something when you are out there.

Shaun Harris

9th March 2015, 15:42

fuk U don't ask for much do ya mate??
But Kylie said as she doesn't know your experience level she will have to book you into the slow group

fair call, just let me know when booking is deffinate please

nzspokes

9th March 2015, 18:28

serious question for you dude
Turn 6 being double apex. Do you go out wide/turn in late so ingle apex it higher up ? Ie whats your preferred line.
Also Turn 3 - are you staying wide from 2 and turning in on the crest or another alternative.
Those are the two that are doing my head in currently -grass cutting on 6 and wheelspin exiting 3

Im trying to give up the grass cutting on 6. Getting better. Ive had the odd going round the outside of other riders. Get better drive up the hill.

Now Im going faster 2 is my issue. I turn to late so am braking into it. Had the front go away twice last time doing it. Going to button off earlier next time round.

I dont have the HP to wheelspin out of 3 but a guy did it in front of me a while back, just before he and the bike cartwheeled down the track.

From what I can make out im 1.28/1.29s. Not sure how Im going to get faster.

Sushi Bandit

9th March 2015, 18:54

I'm likely to be going. It will be my first ever time on a track on the bike. I'll be entering in the novice group obviously.

Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

FROSTY

9th March 2015, 19:00

Im trying to give up the grass cutting on 6. Getting better. Ive had the odd going round the outside of other riders. Get better drive up the hill.

Now Im going faster 2 is my issue. I turn to late so am braking into it. Had the front go away twice last time doing it. Going to button off earlier next time round.

I dont have the HP to wheelspin out of 3 but a guy did it in front of me a while back, just before he and the bike cartwheeled down the track.

From what I can make out im 1.28/1.29s. Not sure how Im going to get faster.
I didn't cartwheel but she didn't half slap me to let me know that wasn't very clever.
ya know what -THIS is what Ive been missing.
trying to figure out a new track. Then work out the fast line. Then work out the line that's gonna get you in front by corner exit. dang its exciting stuff.

FROSTY

9th March 2015, 19:01

I'm likely to be going. It will be my first ever time on a track on the bike. I'll be entering in the novice group obviously. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
Actually funny thing is the novice group had LOTS of free track

nzspokes

9th March 2015, 19:03

I didn't cartwheel but she didn't half slap me to let me know that wasn't very clever.
ya know what -THIS is what Ive been missing.
trying to figure out a new track. Then work out the fast line. Then work out the line that's gonna get you in front by corner exit. dang its exciting stuff.

Im not good enough to race. But track days are fun. I will be happy to make group 3 at ART days.

FROSTY

9th March 2015, 19:12

fair call, just let me know when booking is deffinate please
The lady doing the booking wanted to know if you had any riding experience. I told her you haven't ridden in awhile so she insisted on putting you in the slow group.
Even when I put down--bike you will be riding as Britain 1000 she didn't bat an eyelid.
SOOO --can ya borrow the Britain from Stroudy? --I wanna see the look on her face when you rock up in novice on that bike.

nzspokes

9th March 2015, 19:23

Guess I better enter. Got to work out which group to go in.

Then I can make sure I watch all the oldies going around....:clap:

FROSTY

10th March 2015, 07:40

Guess I better enter. Got to work out which group to go in.

Then I can make sure I watch all the oldies going around....:clap:
yea --just look for the pit garage with all the zimmer frames parked outside

Shaun Harris

10th March 2015, 09:05

yea --just look for the pit garage with all the zimmer frames parked outside

Yoshi ECU is on the courier to you man

nzspokes

10th March 2015, 09:15

yea --just look for the pit garage with all the zimmer frames parked outside

And leathers that smell like old wee?

FROSTY

10th March 2015, 19:22

And leathers that smell like old wee?
no NO NO --old farts thank you

biketimus_prime

10th March 2015, 20:44

Hey guys do you reckon it is ok if I ride down and back home or would it be beneficial to bring a vehicle with tools, paddock stands etc. Keeping in mind I will be in novice class for sure and won't ascend past that most likely.
I usually take my car fully loaded with tools, jack etc for car track days but I just can't do the same for my bike with it being a tuesday arvo and all :(

Will obvs do all the prep at home like new pads fluid etc. But juuust in case ya know?

nzspokes

10th March 2015, 21:41

biketimus_prime

10th March 2015, 22:01

Depends if you plan on binning it. If your not then riding will be fine. Just realize you will be tired on the ride home.

I will probably trailer but im setup for that.

Yeah after really thinking it over I've decided to hire a trailer and load up my bike and a mate's, split the cost and that way we can also take our tools, gear and food etc.

biketimus_prime

10th March 2015, 22:06

Latte

11th March 2015, 09:29

Yeah after really thinking it over I've decided to hire a trailer and load up my bike and a mate's, split the cost and that way we can also take our tools, gear and food etc.

Murphy's Law :D - the 2 times I dropped my bike on the track I had ridden down.

Sushi Bandit

11th March 2015, 10:04

Any tips for a bike track newbie? My bike I'm taking is a hyosung GT250R (haha sell the bike get a real bike hyosungs are shit, ok shut up)
I have done car track days but not bike. What should I check for?

I will redo my front brake pads and put high temp fluid through. I assume the rear won't need it though as it won't get worked as hard?

I am kinda worried about my tyres. They aren't shit but not amazing sport ones. They're these: http://motorcycle.michelin.com.au/tyres/michelin-pilot-activ

I am going to do an oil and filter change before the day as my routine service interval will be up by then, should I do the oil after the track day again?

What else?

Also thanks so far for all the advice everyone :)

I'm taking my Hyobag 250 out too. Your tires are better than mine mate haha.

FROSTY

11th March 2015, 19:46

Any tips for a bike track newbie? My bike I'm taking is a hyosung GT250R (haha sell the bike get a real bike hyosungs are shit, ok shut up)
I have done car track days but not bike. What should I check for?

I will redo my front brake pads and put high temp fluid through. I assume the rear won't need it though as it won't get worked as hard?

I am kinda worried about my tyres. They aren't shit but not amazing sport ones. They're these: http://motorcycle.michelin.com.au/tyres/michelin-pilot-activ

I am going to do an oil and filter change before the day as my routine service interval will be up by then, should I do the oil after the track day again?

What else?

Also thanks so far for all the advice everyone :)
First bit of advice is to relax. For you its just a bit of country road with no trucks,cars etc coming the other way.
Second- don't look back.. A passing rider is responsible to make a clean and safe pass so focus on the track in front of you.
third--Look out for the nutcase wearing leathers with a tiger on the back Hes as mad as a hatter
Or his lil ginga mate---im told that fulla might be able to ride

biketimus_prime

11th March 2015, 20:07

Murphy's Law :D - the 2 times I dropped my bike on the track I had ridden down.

I am so worried about dropping it I really doubt I'll get to a point where I will drop it. If anything it'll be my usual drop/almost drops when stopped etc.

I'm taking my Hyobag 250 out too. Your tires are better than mine mate haha.

Haha that is a bit reassuring :)

First bit of advice is to relax. For you its just a bit of country road with no trucks,cars etc coming the other way.
Second- don't look back.. A passing rider is responsible to make a clean and safe pass so focus on the track in front of you.
third--Look out for the nutcase wearing leathers with a tiger on the back Hes as mad as a hatter
Or his lil ginga mate---im told that fulla might be able to ride

That's what I'm really looking forward to, being able to let loose without worrying who or what might be around the corner.

Will watch out for tiger guy, thanks!

FROSTY

13th March 2015, 16:50

Will watch out for tiger guy, thanks!
yep he can't ride for shite. Best you tell him and the lil ginga guy with him they can't ride.

biketimus_prime

13th March 2015, 16:56

yep he can't ride for shite. Best you tell him and the lil ginga guy with him they can't ride.

If I find them I fuckin will mate you wait and see I'll tell em what's up

FROSTY

13th March 2015, 21:48

If I find them I fuckin will mate you wait and see I'll tell em what's up
ok matey --itll be fun meeting ya--Im the bloke with the tigger leathers. and dunno if ya heard of Shaun harris. he's the lil ginga ninja I refer to.

biketimus_prime

14th March 2015, 10:38

ok matey --itll be fun meeting ya--Im the bloke with the tigger leathers. and dunno if ya heard of Shaun harris. he's the lil ginga ninja I refer to.

Shit that's awesome! Just did some reading up on him. I will definitely come say hi to you guys. Did you also race very competitively like Shaun?

FROSTY

14th March 2015, 12:44

Shit that's awesome! Just did some reading up on him. I will definitely come say hi to you guys. Did you also race very competitively like Shaun?
Theres not many people in the whole wide world can say they raced "like" shaun.
Even some of our current top level racers haven't done the stuff he has.
But Yep I've done a few laps of tracks in Australasia and been lucky enough to collect a few tin mugs.
So shauns the old has been -Im the old "mighta been maybe if I'd tried harder"

James Deuce

14th March 2015, 12:49

So shauns the old has been -Im the old "mighta been maybe if I'd tried harder"

He's also the sort of bastard who rips a newbie a new one if they're in his "way" when you're trying to push your bike with a flat tyre back to your pit.

Drew

14th March 2015, 13:13

He's also the sort of bastard who rips a newbie a new one if they're in his "way" when you're trying to push your bike with a flat tyre back to your pit.
You should have been more important then!

James Deuce

14th March 2015, 13:15

Yes, I know, it's entirely my fault.

Drew

14th March 2015, 13:18

Yes, I know, it's entirely my fault.Could be worse, he could have got you to pay him to fix it.....then given back a different bike that still has a flat tyre.

FROSTY

14th March 2015, 13:32

He's also the sort of bastard who rips a newbie a new one if they're in his "way" when you're trying to push your bike with a flat tyre back to your pit.
you mean shaun I take it?
-Don't think Ive ever bitten a head off for pushing a bike.

Drew

14th March 2015, 13:45

you mean shaun I take it?
-Don't think Ive ever bitten a head off for pushing a bike.No one talks about you Tony.

James Deuce

14th March 2015, 14:19

you mean shaun I take it?
-Don't think Ive ever bitten a head off for pushing a bike.

Yes Shaun, you big silly.

FROSTY

14th March 2015, 14:39

No one talks about you Tony.
As it should be drew.- the only people that talk about me owe me money........

FROSTY

14th March 2015, 14:40

Yes Shaun, you big silly.
Jim--you've come over all polite like. :-)

biketimus_prime

14th March 2015, 16:56

Well that's pretty cool Frosty. Looking forward to meeting you guys and learning a thing or two if possible.
I am currently reading this: http://books.google.co.nz/books/about/Total_Control.html?id=6_HuBQAAQBAJ&redir_esc=y
It's my 4th motorcycling book and there's still stuff to learn. I aim to finish it before I hit the track day. Maybe renew it and bring it down with me for refreshing and practicing some stuff.

Shaun Harris

15th March 2015, 06:56

He's also the sort of bastard who rips a newbie a new one if they're in his "way" when you're trying to push your bike with a flat tyre back to your pit.

Wank wank dribble on no name

Shaun Harris

15th March 2015, 06:59

Could be worse, he could have got you to pay him to fix it.....then given back a different bike that still has a flat tyre.

Clarify that one cunt if you ca with any kind of proof, fuk you really can be a retard, I guess depression does that to some people. Go take your meds man

James Deuce

15th March 2015, 07:41

Wank wank dribble on no name

Most people who turn up at a race meeting are "no names" Shaun. It's the nature of the beast.

FROSTY

15th March 2015, 08:50

Most people who turn up at a race meeting are "no names" Shaun. It's the nature of the beast.
And to become a name you need to be famous or infamous.

Drew

15th March 2015, 11:54

Clarify that one cunt if you ca with any kind of proof, fuk you really can be a retard, I guess depression does that to some people. Go take your meds man

Remember Arron?

You are a liar and a thief! Don't ever think I'll forget, or stop reminding those who do.

Trying to poke fun at whatever personal issues I have, says more about you than me. We'll have this conversation in person some time, I look forward to it greatly.

nzspokes

15th March 2015, 15:00

Wank wank dribble on no name

Here was me thinking you were a good sort.

Image shattered.

Drew

15th March 2015, 15:18

Here was me thinking you were a good sort.

Image shattered.

Never deal with him involving money or motorcycles, and you'll be fine.

Shaun Harris

15th March 2015, 19:01

Remember Arron?

You are a liar and a thief! Don't ever think I'll forget, or stop reminding those who do.

Trying to poke fun at whatever personal issues I have, says more about you than me. We'll have this conversation in person some time, I look forward to it greatly.

Carry on Drew, tell all you know man. O- and look back at many many posts you have made regarding me powl, small world eh. Chin up though.

FROSTY

19th March 2015, 08:03

there was me thinking this was a thread for a newbee rider wanting to do a track day

biketimus_prime

19th March 2015, 15:04

Same
..........

biketimus_prime

19th March 2015, 15:23

So my brake pads front and rear have loads left. Just gonna change the fluid out again.
Oil change and filter is due too so I'll do that aaaand that's all I'm doing.

What tyre pressures should I run? Currently for road riding 28 front and 34 rear have been good.

biketimus_prime

20th March 2015, 10:10

Yo

tyre pressures pls

Drew

20th March 2015, 10:27

Yo

tyre pressures plsHow long is a piece of string?

Refer to tyre manufacturer/distributor.

biketimus_prime

20th March 2015, 11:30

How long is a piece of string?

Refer to tyre manufacturer/distributor.

They don't put up info like that... I figured someone might know some safe pressures to start with. Factory is 29 front 32 rear.

Latte

20th March 2015, 12:59

default answer seems to be 30/30 cold when asking instructor types at track days I've done (ART / HDRD etc). From there it's preference - the idea is the pressure will raise as you get heat in them, and you'll typically get more heat in them compared to road use so you start with lower pressures.

biketimus_prime

20th March 2015, 13:48

Great thanks for that. There aren't any compressors on site in the pits that I can adjust pressures with is there? May have to try source something if that is the case.

rustyrobot

20th March 2015, 13:51

Great thanks for that. There aren't any compressors on site in the pits that I can adjust pressures with is there? May have to try source something if that is the case.

Someone will have a foot pump guaranteed.

Advice I have been given is never go less than -5psi on the usual, and 30/30 has been quoted a lot as Latte said. The other thing which was pointed out to me by a rider who I respect a lot is: it's going to be a while before you are riding above the abilities of your bike or tyres - if ever. Don't get too hung up on getting them perfect, they'll be fine - concentrate on your riding.

Latte

20th March 2015, 14:21

Although you arent doing an AMCC ART day, check out their website for what to bring and what to expect. Apart from the lunch and training aspect it's pretty close to a standard track day.

biketimus_prime

20th March 2015, 14:28

Someone will have a foot pump guaranteed.

Advice I have been given is never go less than -5psi on the usual, and 30/30 has been quoted a lot as Latte said. The other thing which was pointed out to me by a rider who I respect a lot is: it's going to be a while before you are riding above the abilities of your bike or tyres - if ever. Don't get too hung up on getting them perfect, they'll be fine - concentrate on your riding.

I know this is going to sound stupid but I honestly had no idea you could use a foot pump to pump up motor vehicle tyres... I may as well get one because it'll be very useful. I always thought they were only good for inflating balls, airbeds etc.
Looking at this: http://www.thewarehouse.co.nz/red/catalog/product/Auto-FX-Double-Inflator-Foot-Pump?SKU=1906134
Even says I can use on vehicle, never realised haha

Yeah I really doubt I will ride past the limits of my bike on the day, if anything I expect I will have brake fade and run off the track or try keep up with someone and run off after bitching out of entering a corner.

Although you arent doing an AMCC ART day, check out their website for what to bring and what to expect. Apart from the lunch and training aspect it's pretty close to a standard track day.

Thanks I will check it out :)

rustyrobot

20th March 2015, 14:45

Looking at this...

Check out Torpedo7 for their standing pumps too.

Oh... and try and get a good sleep the night before the night before... because you'll be too excited to sleep on track day eve :)

Latte

20th March 2015, 14:46

Yeah I really doubt I will ride past the limits of my bike on the day, if anything I expect I will have brake fade and run off the track or try keep up with someone and run off after bitching out of entering a corner.

The most likely thing that will happen is you'll enjoy yourself, and booking your next one as soon as you get home. Ride within your limits and build your confidence and speed throughout the day you'll be sweet. If you manage to get the brakes fading as a track novice in a few 15 minute sessions then it's time to start racing.

biketimus_prime

20th March 2015, 15:46

Haha cheers for the great advice guys. I used to take my car a lot and I know what you mean about sleep, the excitement the night before never ever wears off!
Assumed I'd be brake fading as that is one of the first things I did in my car back in the day too.
I was setting good lap times but to go faster I needed to spend more and it just wasn't worth it.
Hopefully I can get my kicks longer from bike track days before outgrowing what I have. Will let you know how it goes :eek:

nzspokes

20th March 2015, 16:11

Dont worry to much about tyre pressure being perfect, just run good road pressure as in the novice group you are mainly going at road speeds.

You can run in the upper groups on cheap bikes, it is not easy to outride a motorcycles potential. Im on a 4k bike and about to go into G3 at ART days and it has way more speed than I do.

You will only boil the fluid if it is very old and you are on the brakes to much.

FROSTY

22nd March 2015, 11:15

Biketimus prime- My simple advice is to set the bike up EXACTLY as you would for your normal road use.
Don't muck around with tyre pressures etc.
you don't need the head damage and it isn't going to make the day any more enjoyable or safe.
Setup I'd be having you do is exactly the same stuff a prudent rider does anyway. Lever gaps correct for you etc.
like I posted earlier-concider it to be a section of road with no cars no white lines and no traffic cops.
put simply--RELAX

just one bit of advice over and above that I must stress strongly--DON'T LOOK BACK.

I won't go into why not here but just don't

Sushi Bandit

24th March 2015, 07:46

Here's hoping it dries out a bit this arvo!

sil3nt

24th March 2015, 08:01

I think it will be fine. I'm feeling a bit shit after the 2 dayer at Taupo on the weekend so i'm gonna miss this one. Hopefully I can do at least one of the days at Easter.

Shaun Harris

24th March 2015, 08:15

Im as sick as a dog and will not get there today

nzspokes

24th March 2015, 08:30

Im not bothering, all the old farts will leave wee on the racing line! :bleh:

biketimus_prime

24th March 2015, 08:33

Looks like it's meant to clear up later today. My friend who was meant to go with me can't go now as his 1tonne jacket won't zip up anymore after it's 4th use!
I think I might try put the hyobag on the ute or try find a small trailer just for my bike and still head down.

Sushi Bandit

24th March 2015, 09:04

biketimus_prime

24th March 2015, 21:23

What a day!
Good to meet Frosty and sushibandit!

Loved it but the hyo is horribly inadequate when we're around the other bikes :(
Absolutely fried the edges of my tyres, never thought I'd be capable of it.
I need to move off the bike more rather than lean it so much as I scraped footpegs, gear shift lever and even the lower part of my fairing.

I did give a guy on a ducati a good scare into turn 1, I was coming in to pass him waaay quicker than he was going and just gunned it after looking back and seeing me. That was the highlight of my day!
But pretty gutted about the rain. Only got 2 sessions. I have to ride the bike to uni tomorrow so I didn't want to take chances after having such a good run.

FROSTY

25th March 2015, 08:14

I for one had a frikkin ball.

biketimus_prime

25th March 2015, 08:14

I for one had a frikkin ball.

Yeah I noticed haha, great stuff

FROSTY

25th March 2015, 08:27

Yeah I noticed haha, great stuff
Right up until I decided douggie was NOT going to go past me in the wet on T6. weeeeee back wheel overtakes front wheel

Shaun Harris

25th March 2015, 09:25

Right up until I decided douggie was NOT going to go past me in the wet on T6. weeeeee back wheel overtakes front wheel

you must be ok then at least

Mattr

25th March 2015, 09:53

I for one had a frikkin ball.

Same here Frosty, nice to meet you pal. Matt

FROSTY

25th March 2015, 11:41

you must be ok then at least
No crash--far from it but it was a reminder to me its a track day and I have NOTHING to prove.
round n round on the fast line cementing it into my lil brain.

FROSTY

25th March 2015, 11:44

Same here Frosty, nice to meet you pal. Matt
yea mon was cool wasn't it.-Sorry for the scare I normally save experiments like that for when I have clear track. I really wanted to see what would happen if I turned into T6 that 2.0m or 3.0m later

FROSTY

25th March 2015, 11:48

Yeah I noticed haha, great stuff
I gave you plenty of room though aye?
To be honest that was the one thing that had me worried at all was putting you guys off your lines.

biketimus_prime

25th March 2015, 20:12

I gave you plenty of room though aye?
To be honest that was the one thing that had me worried at all was putting you guys off your lines.

Yeah heaps of room, was all good!
I felt bad because I was frustratingly slow even for novice, the bike just couldn't pull out of corners or on the straights quick enough compared to the others and I held people up a lot.
Probably take my R6 out next time rather than the hyo if all the other bikes are gonna be so much faster than me anyway. At least I'll stand a better chance with decent suspension and tyres working in my favour too.
I thought I better learn to ride the hyo well before moving up but Lance reckons I may as well learn to ride the bike that I will end up on eventually anyway.

FROSTY

27th March 2015, 07:55

Yeah heaps of room, was all good!
I felt bad because I was frustratingly slow even for novice, the bike just couldn't pull out of corners or on the straights quick enough compared to the others and I held people up a lot.
Probably take my R6 out next time rather than the hyo if all the other bikes are gonna be so much faster than me anyway. At least I'll stand a better chance with decent suspension and tyres working in my favour too.
I thought I better learn to ride the hyo well before moving up but Lance reckons I may as well learn to ride the bike that I will end up on eventually anyway.
To be totally honest I personally prefer passing bikes that are slow in a straight line to passing bikes that are fast.
This is specifically on a track day. Slow bikes mean easier to pass . Fast bikes means guys on powerfull bikes can keep up in the safe passing areas.