Cash stolen off motorcycle buyer at gunpoint by phoney seller

[rustyrobot]

Damn - turns out it's not just Nigerian scammers to be wary of when selling your bike. When I was in the UK I was gob-smacked when a mate went to buy a car and took 4 friends and some baseball bats with him just in case. Guess it was only a matter of time before some low-life tried it on here.

"A New Plymouth man who drove to Hamilton to buy a motorcycle had his cash stolen at gunpoint after the phoney seller took him to a local farm."

"...the victim travelled to Hamilton to purchase a motorbike he saw for sale on a Facebook site that specialises in selling motorbikes."

Glad I don't use facebook.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11415083

Be careful folks.

[Big Dog]

Mudder far car!


Stupid phone / Tapatalk, apologies in advance.

[Akzle]

hahahahahamiltON.

[yevjenko]

. When I was in the UK I was gob-smacked when a mate went to buy a car and took 4 friends and some baseball bats with him just in case.

Jeez where were you Rus? never had that issue

[rustyrobot]

Jeez where were you

Dalston/Hackney. They were a pretty colourful bunch, but they were genuinely concerned that when they went to buy the car someone might pull a knife. This was pre-internet selling days so just going through Loot. I presumed it was a real issue - they'd be buying a pretty cheap car though, can't imagine it happening when you turn up to collect your Bentley.

Makes sense that this issue surfaces in Hamiltopia. Although the sceptic in me also thinks this has some of the hallmarks of a hoax complaint.

[Akzle]

Makes sense that this issue surfaces in Hamiltopia. Although the sceptic in me also thinks this has some of the hallmarks of a hoax complaint.

intresting the language used though 'threatened to shoot several times' leads to stronger charge than merely presenting a firearm...

[local]

Although the sceptic in me also thinks this has some of the hallmarks of a hoax complaint.

It's not (not many degrees of separation in NP)

[rustyrobot]

It's not (not many degrees of separation in NP)

Ah true. Bugger. Feel for the guy then.

[Micmac]

That's pretty sad. Sorry for the guy who lost money. I went to buy a Chief up in Ohio in 2002. Had 16K cash in pocket. Had the trailer on the ute. The guy wanted me to back up in an ally, I made him meet me in a restaurant parking lot I had scouted out, lots of traffic in and out. I had a 9mm Glock under the seat (legal here with concealed carry permit which I have). Guy showed up on the bike, pulled it up on the trailer without even stopping. Had the paperwork in hand, exchanged money for paper, I trotted my happy ass back home to Dixie after I checked the bike out. I'm glad it went OK. It could've went the other way. in the 45 years plus I've been messing with bikes, only got a bike stolen once. Not bad. I hope my record remains that way.

[varminter]

A nine under the seat, whoa... if we were allowed those we wouldn't have to bother confiscating keys :devil2:

[Big Dog]

That'd be awkward getting your shooting iron out from under your seat.

"Mister, reach for the sky. Keep them where I can see them. Where's the cash?"

"Err, under the seat. Can I borrow an Allan key?"


Stupid phone / Tapatalk, apologies in advance.

[jasonu]

Damn - turns out it's not just Nigerian scammers to be wary of when selling your bike. When I was in the UK I was gob-smacked when a mate went to buy a car and took 4 friends and some baseball bats with him just in case. Guess it was only a matter of time before some low-life tried it on here.

"A New Plymouth man who drove to Hamilton to buy a motorcycle had his cash stolen at gunpoint after the phoney seller took him to a local farm."

"...the victim travelled to Hamilton to purchase a motorbike he saw for sale on a Facebook site that specialises in selling motorbikes."

Glad I don't use facebook.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11415083

Be careful folks.

Carry a gun and be prepared to use it.

[Tazz]

Carry a gun and be prepared to use it.

That is an unarguably 100% proven road to success for sure.

[insomnia01]

Another incident of this type happened last week in Kihikihi ( Sth Waikato ) guy got directed up a long driveway bashed in the head with a gun managed to get back in his ute reversed the hell out of there into a tree bolted down the road & alerted someone in a house down the road, has a bullet hole in his cab to prove it !!! didn't give up the cash but.......

[jasonu]

That is an unarguably 100% proven road to success for sure.

Yeah but you would still have your bike and or cash...

[Tazz]

Yeah but you would still have your bike and or cash...

Too right. Having a gun does solve everything. It's simply that easy. Just look at how it works so well where you are in the States. Can't argue the facts.

[Mike.Gayner]

Yep guns in the States are universally used successfully in self defense. I've never heard of a case of it going wrong, and it's definitely not true that a gun you own in the States is overwhelmingly more likely to be used against you.

[breakaway]

Stop wasting your breath, he can't hear you over the deafening sound of freedom.

[jellywrestler]

Yep guns in the States are universally used successfully in self defense. I've never heard of a case of it going wrong, and it's definitely not true that a gun you own in the States is overwhelmingly more likely to be used against you.

you don't buy a defence rifle, you buy an assualt rifle, so how do explain that?

[Akzle]

mixnmatch statistics on it. But two consensi:
1) americunts are fuken stupid.
2) many places in the world, increases in (legal)firearm ownership, leads to decreases in firearms crime.

[pritch]

and it's definitely not true that a gun you own in the States is overwhelmingly more likely to be used against you.

I agree, you are right, it's definitely not true. It has happened, even to Police, but it isn't *that* common. If you do grab a gun though, you had better know what you are doing, and I would suggest that most hereabout don't.

[pritch]

2) many places in the world, increases in (legal)firearm ownership, leads to decreases in firearms crime.

Not quite. From what I've read, it isn't firearms crime that decreases, it's all the other stuff. Burglaries, muggings, fights in bars etc.

That obnoxious little prick in the bar might be pissing you off, but you don't smack him in the mouth, you let it pass because he's probably carrying.

In places with high gun ownership burglary is an unattractive proposition. Even the hoods can understand what is likely to happen if they stick their head in somebody else's window.

Gotta go now the vinho tinto is kicking in. :drinkup:

[Triumph guy]

I lived for many years in New Hampshire in the US, to own a hand gun you had to be over 18 and produce photo ID. You had to carry in plain view and needed a special permit to carry a concealed weapon.
We never locked our house, our bikes were always safe ,there was very little petty crime and I never saw a bar fight or a road rage incident. What you did see was a lot of people in the supermarket with a block on their hip.
We were there on Sept 11th and a lot of Americans believe if they had of been allowed to carry guns on planes there would never have been the events that happened.
I believe if you outlaw guns only outlaws will have guns.

[Akzle]

Not quite. From what I've read, it isn't firearms crime that decreases, it's all the other stuff. Burglaries, muggings, fights in bars etc.

That obnoxious little prick in the bar might be pissing you off, but you don't smack him in the mouth, you let it pass because he's probably carrying.

In places with high gun ownership burglary is an unattractive proposition. Even the hoods can understand what is likely to happen if they stick their head in somebody else's window.

Gotta go now the vinho tinto is kicking in. :drinkup:

crime in general, then.
Again, ie, in areas where carry is legal, the disincentive exists. If you can knock off the bank, knowing the po are 15 minutes off, game on.
If you go into the same bank, and granny, billy bo and that gorgeous blondie are all packin heat, your odds are a lot lower.

[Mike.Gayner]

I believe if you outlaw guns only outlaws will have guns.

That's called a tautology, you fucking retard.

[Swoop]

you don't buy a defence rifle, you buy an assualt rifle, so how do explain that?

In fact, you don't.
The public isn't able to, because an "assault" rifle is capable of full-auto fire. The public cannot purchase one of these BUT they can purchase a "civilian version" which ISN'T capable of full-noise.

Nice attempt at regurgitating the propaganda though.

[Akzle]

In fact, you don't.
The public isn't able to, because an "assault" rifle is capable of full-auto fire. The public cannot purchase one of these BUT they can purchase a "civilian version" which ISN'T capable of full-noise.

Nice attempt at regurgitating the propaganda though.

C-cat. Faggot.

[Tazz]

In places with high gun ownership burglary is an unattractive proposition. Even the hoods can understand what is likely to happen if they stick their head in somebody else's window.

So, Sweden, which is well up there with gun ownership (although stats are skewed because a lot of the guns in houses are actually government owned so don't appear on the stats), your ass will be thrown in jail if you pull a gun/shoot a guy for trying to steal your t.v. I believe there are rules for the level of response to the level of threat/crime etc. Seems to work way better than free for all, mainly because most people are to stupid to make the right choice when given it.


I lived for many years in New Hampshire in the US, to own a hand gun you had to be over 18 and produce photo ID. You had to carry in plain view and needed a special permit to carry a concealed weapon.
We never locked our house, our bikes were always safe ,there was very little petty crime and I never saw a bar fight or a road rage incident. What you did see was a lot of people in the supermarket with a block on their hip.
We were there on Sept 11th and a lot of Americans believe if they had of been allowed to carry guns on planes there would never have been the events that happened.
I believe if you outlaw guns only outlaws will have guns.


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[jasonu]

Not quite. From what I've read, it isn't firearms crime that decreases, it's all the other stuff. Burglaries, muggings, fights in bars etc.

That obnoxious little prick in the bar might be pissing you off, but you don't smack him in the mouth, you let it pass because he's probably carrying.

In places with high gun ownership burglary is an unattractive proposition. Even the hoods can understand what is likely to happen if they stick their head in somebody else's window.
:

True.


I lived for many years in New Hampshire in the US, to own a hand gun you had to be over 18 and produce photo ID. You had to carry in plain view and needed a special permit to carry a concealed weapon.
We never locked our house, our bikes were always safe ,there was very little petty crime and I never saw a bar fight or a road rage incident. What you did see was a lot of people in the supermarket with a block on their hip.


That is how it is where I am. Although open carry is legal in Oregon I have yet to see someone doing so. You are required to have a concealed carry permit to pack heat in your pocket so you never know who might be packing and that can be a deterrent to someone thinking of doing bad things.


crime in general, then.
Again, ie, in areas where carry is legal, the disincentive exists. If you can knock off the bank, knowing the po are 15 minutes off, game on.
If you go into the same bank, and granny, billy bo and that gorgeous blondie are all packin heat, your odds are a lot lower.

Yep


That's called a tautology, you fucking retard.

You know fuck all on this topic other than what the media spoon feeds you.

[Swoop]

C-cat. Faggot.
So, the average numpty can get one of them...:rolleyes:

[pritch]

C-cat. Faggot.

E cat? :sherlock:

[Akzle]

E cat? :sherlock:

ms S a.

No charlie. C cat.

[Akzle]

So, the average numpty can get one of them...:rolleyes:

yeah. With a quick visit to your local blackpower sergeant at arms.

[Swoop]

yeah. With a quick visit to your local blackpower sergeant at arms.

Refer to post #30.

[Akzle]

Refer to post #30.

Refer to post #33 :yes:

[Swoop]

Refer to post #33 :yes:

Tui moment.

[pritch]

ms S a.

No charlie. C cat.

Nah. You aren't permitted to fire any firearm held on a C Cat licence. If you were to use one for self defence you would be charged. Well the last guy I read about was.
You are permitted to fire an MSSA held on an E Cat licence.

[Akzle]

Nah. You aren't permitted to fire any firearm held on a C Cat licence. If you were to use one for self defence you would be charged. Well the last guy I read about was.
You are permitted to fire an MSSA held on an E Cat licence.

hahahaha. 'permitted'.

[jasonu]

So in NZ you can own a gun but unless you have a particular license you cannot fire it?

[awayatc]

So in NZ you can own a gun but unless you have a particular license you cannot fire it?

Correct....

c endorsement is for collectors......
those collector items cannot legally be fired.

[pritch]

So in NZ you can own a gun but unless you have a particular license you cannot fire it?

The system is as follows: (E&OE)

A category licence permits ownership of normal sporting shotguns and rifles.
B category permits ownership of pistols by members of approved pistol clubs
C category covers firearms held by a collector
D category = dealers
E category covers military style semi automatic rifles and shotguns.

An A cat licence requires relatively minimal security ie locked wooden cupboard etc. B & C require more secure storage made of steel (specified minimum thickness) and fastened to the building.

Dealers premises have to have comprehensive security arrangements probably alarmed etc etc.

So to answer your question, if a collector was holding some WW1 and WW2 pistols for example, and that would be fairly common, it would not be legal for him to fire them. His licence does not permit that and most such pistols would not be of a type approved for use in competition. A C licence does not permit the owner of a Vickers machine gun to fire that, and some years ago after a naval ship was decommisioned collectore bought Oerlikon anti-aircraft guns. They aren't permitted to fire those either.

[pritch]

Correct....

c endorsement is for collectors......
those collector items cannot legally be fired.

So much more succinct than my reply. In my defence I can only say I'm retired and i've got all day.

[Akzle]

So in NZ you can own a gun but unless you have a particular license you cannot fire it?
no, you're not "allowed" to fire it on any license.


but if i'm holding an automatic weapon, there's a good chance i'm not listening to the "rules" as stipulated by anyone else...



Correct....

c endorsement is for collectors......
those collector items cannot legally be fired.
hahahaha. legally

A C licence does not permit the owner of a Vickers machine gun to fire that, and some years ago after a naval ship was decommisioned collectore bought Oerlikon anti-aircraft guns. They aren't permitted to fire those either.

hahahaha. permitted.

[Akzle]

anyway. to address this shit, you cannot even OBTAIN (legally) a weapon capable of fully automatic fire on an E cat.

you can of course, obtain a military style semi-automatic (MSSA, as said)
and swap a few springs over, shave a sear and it might 'malfunction' to provide fully automatic fire... but that would make it illegal for you to have, because it's now "capable" and you don't have a C cat.

BUT, if you don't have a C cat, is there anything restricting you from it?

OR, if you're not a PERSON...

[huff3r]

Unless you are wanting to spray and pray, semi is all you need anyway.

[Akzle]

Unless you are wanting to spray and pray, semi is all you need anyway.

semi?: faggot.

bolty.

[Swoop]

Correct....

c endorsement is for collectors......
those collector items cannot legally be fired.

Sorry, wrong.
There have been instances when they have been legally fired. (Lots of hoops to jump through, etc, etc).

[Tazz]

You know fuck all on this topic other than what the media spoon feeds you.

So you know fuck all other than what the NRA spoon feeds you? :bleh:
People are just too dumb to have as easy access to guns as the US and a for other countries make it. In an ideal world, they work, but then if it was so ideal you wouldn't need them anyway.


Unless you are wanting to spray and pray, semi is all you need anyway.

Have you ever had a crack on a fully auto gun?


http://i.imgur.com/JxsaXaz.gif

[awayatc]

Unless you are wanting to spray and pray, semi is all you need anyway.

Movies got a lot to answer for......
you need lots of spraying with endless praying
to mayhaps accidently hit something.

full automatic on a rifle is a waste if time....

[Akzle]

full automatic on a rifle is a waste if time....

maybe for the new zealand navy...

[haydes55]

full auto empties a mag in 2 seconds. horrible thing to have in a panic

[Akzle]

full auto empties a mag in 2 seconds. horrible thing to have in a panic

anyone panicking is probably best without ANY kind of firearm...<_<

[pritch]

Movies got a lot to answer for......


Ain't that the truth. And that rule applies even in places where it shouldn't, like f'rinstance Police firearms training.

[awayatc]

maybe for the new zealand navy...

Never been in any navy,
was in greens..
Been in a hotspot or 2 as well
Fired tons and tons of amo....
swapped uzi for shotgun whenever I could......
machine guns are effective but
rifles on full auto are for actors and tossers

[awayatc]

anyone panicking is probably best without ANY kind of firearm...<_<

So tell me...
how often did you find yourself in situations you were being shot at..?
roughly....?
been in many wars?
real fights..?
conflicts...?

(Arguments on kb don't count.....
nor do computer games)

[jasonu]

So you know fuck all other than what the NRA spoon feeds you? :bleh:
People are just too dumb to have as easy access to guns as the US and a for other countries make it. In an ideal world, they work, but then if it was so ideal you wouldn't need them anyway.]

Settle pettle, that comment wasn't 'aimed' at you. I actually agree with most of what you post.
BTW I have nothing to do with the NRA and have read not one word of their literature nor care to and will probably never do so. I can make my mind up on my own.

[Micmac]

That'd be awkward getting your shooting iron out from under your seat.

"Mister, reach for the sky. Keep them where I can see them. Where's the cash?"

"Err, under the seat. Can I borrow an Allan key?"


Stupid phone / Tapatalk, apologies in advance.

Not when your standing next to the truck with the door open and hand resting on the seat. When he pulled the scoot up on the trailer, I knew he was straight. I was 600 miles from home with a bunch of Ohio Yankees all over the place. That's why I shifted the meeting place to a more "public" venue as well, minimize the variables. It wasn't my first rodeo. Some people want to be robbed and should get it tattoo'd on their forehead. Like I said, it could've gone either way in this day and age. I'm getting old, I'm an easy target. I try to be smart, and work the situation to my advantage. The kind of bikes I mess with are fairly rare, and we are a small community, and you usually know someone, who knows who you are dealing with. I take steps to minimize the damage that can be visited upon me. Only thing I can say if you are going into a situation. Take control of the meeting place, meet in daylight where there are lots of John Q. Public around, try and bring a friend or two, if buying online, have extensive conversations with the seller, if it sounds to good to be true, it is. have a weapon of some type that you are familiar with and can access hurriedly. I kept the 9 MikeMike under the seat, even though I can carry it on my person legally concealed. I think to carry it in that situation was unwarranted as I changed the meeting place and no need to elevate something that does not exist. Lastly, never start trouble, just finish it. There is a reason I am still able to do so at 60 plus years old. I have demonstrated to the legal authority that I am not a hot head over an extended period of time. Daddy used to say,"If you carry a weapon, you think up reasons to use it" and he was right. My government actually sent me on a trip to Asia for my High School graduation trip. I have seen close up and personal what men can do to each other with weaponry. It ain't pretty. I am very reluctant to enter that realm again under any circumstance. I can see how kids who play video games can romanticize such situations, but it is not something you ever care to witness. I view (firearms) them as insurance policies. In civilian life I have never had to employ one in such a manner up to this point.

[jasonu]

Not when your standing next to the truck with the door open and hand resting on the seat. When he pulled the scoot up on the trailer, I knew he was straight. I was 600 miles from home with a bunch of Ohio Yankees all over the place. That's why I shifted the meeting place to a more "public" venue as well, minimize the variables. It wasn't my first rodeo. Some people want to be robbed and should get it tattoo'd on their forehead. Like I said, it could've gone either way in this day and age. I'm getting old, I'm an easy target. I try to be smart, and work the situation to my advantage. The kind of bikes I mess with are fairly rare, and we are a small community, and you usually know someone, who knows who you are dealing with. I take steps to minimize the damage that can be visited upon me. Only thing I can say if you are going into a situation. Take control of the meeting place, meet in daylight where there are lots of John Q. Public around, try and bring a friend or two, if buying online, have extensive conversations with the seller, if it sounds to good to be true, it is. have a weapon of some type that you are familiar with and can access hurriedly. I kept the 9 MikeMike under the seat, even though I can carry it on my person legally concealed. I think to carry it in that situation was unwarranted as I changed the meeting place and no need to elevate something that does not exist. Lastly, never start trouble, just finish it. There is a reason I am still able to do so at 60 plus years old. I have demonstrated to the legal authority that I am not a hot head over an extended period of time. Daddy used to say,"If you carry a weapon, you think up reasons to use it" and he was right. My government actually sent me on a trip to Asia for my High School graduation trip. I have seen close up and personal what men can do to each other with weaponry. It ain't pretty. I am very reluctant to enter that realm again under any circumstance. I can see how kids who play video games can romanticize such situations, but it is not something you ever care to witness. I view (firearms) them as insurance policies. In civilian life I have never had to employ one in such a manner up to this point.

Thank you for your service.

[Tazz]

Settle pettle, that comment wasn't 'aimed' at you. I actually agree with most of what you post.
BTW I have nothing to do with the NRA and have read not one word of their literature nor care to and will probably never do so. I can make my mind up on my own.

I didn't intend to fire that off as angry or anything, just playing devils advocate a bit. It's a pretty touchy subject for some, just about need to muzzle em.
I don't know much about the NRA either to be fair, just the media reports which I'm sure have added flash bits for show.

[Tazz]

Some people want to be robbed and should get it tattoo'd on their forehead.

That's the rub though right there. Too many people who happen to not be well lit candles make a bunch of missteps which put them in bad situations, and they then argue they need guns to get out of the stink. Sometimes it's not even lack of intelligence, they're just too trusting/unaware for their own good.
They are the LAST people who should be carrying and making life and death decisions on the fly, and they far out number the reasonable amongst the population, but they will call you psychic and condescending if you try and point out that steps can be taken to avoid bad situations well before they happen.

I mean even an instructor got shot by a little girl there a few months back. That takes a special kind of stupid, ignorance or lack of respect for weapons right there, yet he was supposed to be teaching people how to use guns safely and correctly...

[Akzle]

So tell me...
how often did you find yourself in situations you were being shot at..?
roughly....?
been in many wars?
real fights..?
conflicts...?

(Arguments on kb don't count.....
nor do computer games)
just as glad as i my computer wont play games for shit.

mate, me an' ma' homiez have sum MEEEEEN paintball sessionz yo.
and yes, my (illegal) full auto marker is fucken handy, but more like a carbine in that it can be all CQ and pointy and shit, rather than a rifle.

rather be shooting ropes than not :D but that's okay when you have 300 in the mag eh...

i've lost it, what was the point, again?


Not when your standing next to the truck with the door open and hand resting on the seat. When he pulled the scoot up on the trailer, I knew he was straight. I was 600 miles from home with a bunch of Ohio Yankees all over the place. That's why I shifted the meeting place to a more "public" venue as well, minimize the variables. It wasn't my first rodeo. Some people want to be robbed and should get it tattoo'd on their forehead. Like I said, it could've gone either way in this day and age. I'm getting old, I'm an easy target. I try to be smart, and work the situation to my advantage. The kind of bikes I mess with are fairly rare, and we are a small community, and you usually know someone, who knows who you are dealing with. I take steps to minimize the damage that can be visited upon me. Only thing I can say if you are going into a situation. Take control of the meeting place, meet in daylight where there are lots of John Q. Public around, try and bring a friend or two, if buying online, have extensive conversations with the seller, if it sounds to good to be true, it is. have a weapon of some type that you are familiar with and can access hurriedly. I kept the 9 MikeMike under the seat, even though I can carry it on my person legally concealed. I think to carry it in that situation was unwarranted as I changed the meeting place and no need to elevate something that does not exist. Lastly, never start trouble, just finish it. There is a reason I am still able to do so at 60 plus years old. I have demonstrated to the legal authority that I am not a hot head over an extended period of time. Daddy used to say,"If you carry a weapon, you think up reasons to use it" and he was right. My government actually sent me on a trip to Asia for my High School graduation trip. I have seen close up and personal what men can do to each other with weaponry. It ain't pretty. I am very reluctant to enter that realm again under any circumstance. I can see how kids who play video games can romanticize such situations, but it is not something you ever care to witness. I view (firearms) them as insurance policies. In civilian life I have never had to employ one in such a manner up to this point.
jesus fucking fuck. I will give you my old keyboard, for free, it has an ENTER key on it. make use of it son.


I mean even an instructor got shot by a little girl there a few months back. That takes a special kind of stupid, ignorance or lack of respect for weapons right there, yet he was supposed to be teaching people how to use guns safely and correctly...

not to mention the countless lulz to be had with instructors holster training who shoot themselves in the leg/foot. check it out on the jewtubes.

[Tazz]

not to mention the countless lulz to be had with instructors holster training who shoot themselves in the leg/foot. check it out on the jewtubes.

Didn't you know feet and legs are the biggest shoe thieves out there. Got to protect your shit.

Those clips are only second to the ones with people either holding the butt right out from their shoulder or the geniuses who think it's a good idea to shove an eye socket right up into the scope...


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[pritch]

Those clips are only second to the ones with people either holding the butt right out from their shoulder or the geniuses who think it's a good idea to shove an eye socket right up into the scope...


Magnum eyebrow can be a common affliction among users of large calibre rifles. Especially common in people who take uphill shots with magnums.
And no I'm far too polite to laugh - but I did smile when they weren't looking. :innocent:

[scumdog]

ms S a.

No charlie. C cat.

Collector??

I vote E cat.

[Akzle]

Collector??

I vote E cat.

it doesn't matter what you vote. possessing a weapon capable of fully automatic fire is illegal without a C cat firearms license in nz.

[jasonu]

it doesn't matter what you vote. possessing a weapon capable of fully automatic fire is illegal without a C cat firearms license in nz.

Doesn't matter as no cunt can afford the ammo...

[Akzle]

Doesn't matter as no cunt can afford the ammo...

that's why we rob white people :yes:

[scumdog]

it doesn't matter what you vote. possessing a weapon capable of fully automatic fire is illegal without a C cat firearms license in nz.

In your world 'illegal' did not appear to matter. E cat for MSSA is all I was pointing out.

[Akzle]

In your world 'illegal' did not appear to matter.
still doesn't. but i'm rather explicit in my use of the term,
E cat for MSSA is all I was pointing out.

which is exactly what i said.

[Akzle]

Those clips are only second to the ones with people either holding the butt right out from their shoulder or the geniuses who think it's a good idea to shove an eye socket right up into the scope...


.700NE
(seven hundred nitro express for the uninitiated) provides many lulz.
fuck i would love to get my hands on one of those.
.416 rigby the biggest i've had a crack at yet. except for a miscellany 50 something blackpowder.
10 bore solids with a magnum powder load are worth a punt, too.

[Conquiztador]

Damn - turns out it's not just Nigerian scammers to be wary of when selling your bike. When I was in the UK I was gob-smacked when a mate went to buy a car and took 4 friends and some baseball bats with him just in case. Guess it was only a matter of time before some low-life tried it on here.

"A New Plymouth man who drove to Hamilton to buy a motorcycle had his cash stolen at gunpoint after the phoney seller took him to a local farm."

"...the victim travelled to Hamilton to purchase a motorbike he saw for sale on a Facebook site that specialises in selling motorbikes."

Glad I don't use facebook.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11415083

Be careful folks.

I am sure this was the 2014 (or was it 2013?) KTM 125sx that was advertised on fb only. (Was only there for a couple of hours before deleted and so also the sellers profile) They are worth between $6K - $8K. The 'seller' had it on there for $2,500 and there was huge interest... He was asked re VIN and motor number but never replied. People were thinking it was surely stolen. One poster mentioned that the picture of the bike was almost surely not taken in NZ based on hose fitting, fence type, a door etc. that could be seen in the picture. A friend of his also posted on there stating that it was not stolen, that he only needed quick cash... When one looked at his profile and the pictures he did not come across as a MX riding type. There was street gang pictures a plenty....

fb is NOT setup for 'buy and sell'. There is no checkup on the facts of the seller (or buyer). Currently there is a couple of sites that have things in place so you have some security: Trade Me and Motorcycle Alley. I also strongly recommend that you deposit the money in to an account for tracing. If the seller demands cash make sure you have support with you and do the deal in a place where there is people.
Common sense should prevail!

[Daffyd]

It's legal for anyone to own a handgun here... unless you're an alien, (foreigner.)
It's also legal to blow someone's head off if they enter your property without being invited. (AFAIK)

[Conquiztador]

I am sure this was the 2014 (or was it 2013?) KTM 125sx that was advertised on fb only. (Was only there for a couple of hours before deleted and so also the sellers profile) They are worth between $6K - $8K. The 'seller' had it on there for $2,500 and there was huge interest... He was asked re VIN and motor number but never replied. People were thinking it was surely stolen. One poster mentioned that the picture of the bike was almost surely not taken in NZ based on hose fitting, fence type, a door etc. that could be seen in the picture. A friend of his also posted on there stating that it was not stolen, that he only needed quick cash... When one looked at his profile and the pictures he did not come across as a MX riding type. There was street gang pictures a plenty....

fb is NOT setup for 'buy and sell'. There is no checkup on the facts of the seller (or buyer). Currently there is a couple of sites that have things in place so you have some security: Trade Me and Motorcycle Alley. I also strongly recommend that you deposit the money in to an account for tracing. If the seller demands cash make sure you have support with you and do the deal in a place where there is people.
Common sense should prevail!

Even found a pic of the bike:
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And as there was a bunch of 'bling' bits on the bike it all started to sound too good to be true...

[huff3r]

Have you ever had a crack on a fully auto gun?



Yes. They are amazing for suppression, but pretty shit for accurately shooting anything.

7.62mm LSW and Steyr on full auto.

[HondaLad]

Seems he's been at it again...

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11429533