Buying from overseas

[pete-blen]

the GST free $400 limit may be coming to a end...


http://www.google.co.nz/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&frm=1&source=web&cd=5&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CDoQqQIwBA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nzherald.co.nz%2Fbusiness%2Fn ews%2Farticle.cfm%3Fc_id%3D3%26objectid%3D11418586&ei=iOAHVe60Esvz8gW-0oGAAQ&usg=AFQjCNHO-5uxdcdZ7suYarsybGCvvvz__w&sig2=_dLzkC4IpqOReCl_8a_rRg&bvm=bv.88198703,d.dGc

[rustyrobot]

Rod Duke can eat a dick... how many times can he say "fair" in one article.

Here's a quote about him from a Stuff article (http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/money/10054448/So-wheres-the-payoff).
Employees from the Briscoe Group, speaking anonymously, say the starting wage there is 30 cents above the minimum rate, and most sales assistants' wages are between $14.55 and $16 an hour, even with long service.

At the other end of the spectrum, Briscoe chief executive Rod Duke's salary has almost doubled over the past five years. The company's latest annual report shows Duke was paid $891,000 for the year ending January 2014. In 2009, his pay was $458,000.

When I'm getting $890k a year I'll buy everything in NZ at premium rates.

[Akzle]

good. .boohoo jew cunts. You want a fsee ride? Go into politics or banking.

[mossy1200]

Donkey doesn't even know what the tax on $1.20 is. I-Tune tax.
Had to laugh when he claimed every 2cents adds up.

TAX:sick:

I noticed they kept quiet about the additional charges that get added onto imports when they get taxed.
$27.00 extra dollars in fees etc. wonder if that will apply? Bio security blahh blahh.

Who are they trying to kid anyway. Even with 15% tax added on its still cheaper to buy online by 50%. Its not going to slow down purchases a lot. What they do want is the TAX

[Akzle]

What they do want is the TAX

Y' dont fuken say...

[Gremlin]

Considering that no-one else in the world has tackled it yet... this will be likely annoying as they screw everything up.

First up they assume they're missing out. Almost everything I've shipped in hasn't been available in NZ, either because the distributor is lazy or because it simply doesn't exist. When I have asked Bunnings for example to special order something in... guess what, never had a call to say it's arrived. Never. If something can't be bought in NZ, do I get a free pass?

Further... if I buy something from overseas that's a restricted shipment, ie, goes to a freight forwarder, how does that work? The seller hasn't shipped to NZ, the freight forwarder hasn't sold me anything...

Customs is going to charge GST on entry? What if it's a gift? (Ok, on that note how easy would it be to send stuff through as gifts from mates). Is Customs going to charge me $120 on fees for $40 of goods? Yeah, I don't see that happening...

[EJK]

Donkey doesn't even know what the tax on $1.20 is. I-Tune tax.
Had to laugh when he claimed every 2cents adds up.


I didn't know you could pay for songs.

[Night Falcon]

this is not likely to happen anytime soon - so carry on.

got some stuff arriving from uncle sam this week as it happens - but all stuff unavailable in NZ so I can sleep easy- and don't forget we need to support the US economy so they can continue to keep the planet safe for riding....and make Harley's for fat old bikers :shifty:

[Akzle]

Is Customs going to charge me $120 on fees for $40 of goods? Yeah, I don't see that happening...

you clearly haven't dealt with the government very much.

[scott411]

Considering that no-one else in the world has tackled it yet... this will be likely annoying as they screw everything up.

First up they assume they're missing out. Almost everything I've shipped in hasn't been available in NZ, either because the distributor is lazy or because it simply doesn't exist. When I have asked Bunnings for example to special order something in... guess what, never had a call to say it's arrived. Never. If something can't be bought in NZ, do I get a free pass?

Further... if I buy something from overseas that's a restricted shipment, ie, goes to a freight forwarder, how does that work? The seller hasn't shipped to NZ, the freight forwarder hasn't sold me anything...

Customs is going to charge GST on entry? What if it's a gift? (Ok, on that note how easy would it be to send stuff through as gifts from mates). Is Customs going to charge me $120 on fees for $40 of goods? Yeah, I don't see that happening...

not true, the UK has the limit now set at £15 and i think canada is $20, other countries are starting , i know a compnay that sells stuff world wide and they are setting up so they can Pay the VAT on UK sales so to get the products to the customer quicker,

at the moment they exempt purchases that collect under $60 tax (GST and Duty) due to the cost, i can see that if they are doing alot more of these transactions then the cost of doing it will get cheaper, theirfore the exempt amount would get lower as well,

[Woodman]

Why would it cost so much?

Just get some cheap labour units to check and process the parcels and send the bill to the receiver etc, and by my reckoning it should be self funding with a double whammy of reduced unemployment and no dole payments for said labour units who will be gainfully employed.

Win Win

[Big Dog]

Why would it cost so much?

Just get some cheap labour units to check and process the parcels and send the bill to the receiver etc, and by my reckoning it should be self funding with a double whammy of reduced unemployment and no dole payments for said labour units who will be gainfully employed.

Win Win

The trouble with dipping into the pool of cheap labour units is two fold:
1 More shit will get "lost in transit"
2 The small business man will have less people willing to work for a living wage, never mind minimum wage.


Pay proper wages. Accept it as a social good and that that means you will not profit from the increased taxes and hire poper staff who will be loyal. BLBH this is not what the local businessman and therefore the voter wants to achieve with this. They want ot take away the competitive advantage the foreign sales mob have.
OR station a sniper on a gantry who only gets paid if he tags thieves, then you can use your lower income labour units.


The reason for the high allowance in the first place is it is bloody expensive to process ever inbound good. Dependent ont he honesty of the sender etc. Plus storage etc, they might as well be the importers themselves.

[Ocean1]

Customs is going to charge GST on entry? What if it's a gift? (Ok, on that note how easy would it be to send stuff through as gifts from mates). Is Customs going to charge me $120 on fees for $40 of goods? Yeah, I don't see that happening...

The same problem doesn't stop them charging import duty.

A friend was coming over from Aus to do a job and as he'd be staying with me the tools and instruments he needed to do the job were sent ahead, along with the legally required pro-forma invoice.

Customs sent me a wee note saying I could collect "my" "purchase" from them when I'd paid the outstanding duty. It wasn't mine. I hadn't purchased it. It was basically excess baggage and wasn't staying in NZ. Apparently a zero sum invoice, should such be included wasn't going to stop them assessing duty on it.

Sir could apply for an exemption under some arcane sub-clause but the upshot was that it was addressed to me so they were holding the goods until I paid up. Over in Stupid World the inmates are up in arms about the GCSB, they should be far more worried about the bunch of arseholes at Customs.

[50Shades]

GST = Goods and Service Tax, I always assumed that it was a tax on goods or a service provided within NZ, so from a legal point of view, can it be charged on goods not provided by a NZ supplier??
Or will they will just change the name to an import duty!

[Woodman]

GST = Goods and Service Tax, I always assumed that it was a tax on goods or a service provided within NZ, so from a legal point of view, can it be charged on goods not provided by a NZ supplier??
Or will they will just change the name to an import duty!

So anything imported into NZ should be exempt?

[pete376403]

not true, the UK has the limit now set at £15 and i think canada is $20, other countries are starting

Australia sets the limit at $1000. Government is always saying it wants to achieve parity with Aus in other things, why not this?

[caseye]

Australia sets the limit at $1000. Government is always saying it wants to achieve parity with Aus in other things, why not this?

Cause even they're too stupid to know what works and what doesn't!

[Gremlin]

Australia sets the limit at $1000. Government is always saying it wants to achieve parity with Aus in other things, why not this?
At $1000 you need a bloody import code.

Another rant at customs... yep, they sure read invoices in their own way. On one invoice they decided not to read the total, rather the subtotal and multiply by the quantity (doubling the value of the parcel). Of course I had to pay to release the parcel as I had no idea what was going on, then spent the next few months arguing about it, only to give up.

You can't argue wth idiots... :facepalm:

[BMWST?]

stop ya whinging,half the time they dont charge anything anyway.Its tax.there are only two certain things in life,and taxes is one of em.

[Max Preload]

stop ya whinging,half the time they dont charge anything anyway.Its tax.there are only two certain things in life,and taxes is one of em.

That's a very defeatist attitude.

[bogan]

stop ya whinging,half the time they dont charge anything anyway.Its tax.there are only two certain things in life,and taxes is one of em.

Exactly, you should buy expecting to pay tax, and be happy with the bonus if you don't have to. Otherwise how a local businesses (who do pay said tax) supposed to compete...

[BMWST?]

Exactly, you should buy expecting to pay tax, and be happy with the bonus if you don't have to. Otherwise how a local businesses (who do pay said tax) supposed to compete...
I Will bite...if nothing else it is equitable for business in NZ,and on the other hand tax would be paid if you purchased the item on an indent basis via another party why shouldnt tax be paid by an individual purchasing thw item himself

[MarkH]

I'm happy to have my small purchases exempt from GST.
On the other hand if they could create a system where I paid 15% (and no more) on all overseas purchases then I really couldn't complain, it is not unfair.
I wouldn't want to be forced to pay an admin fee though, some of my overseas purchases have been for less than $10 (with free worldwide shipping).

My Caberg Tourmax helmet was enough cheaper from Germany that even adding another 15% to my total cost would still have had it more than $200 cheaper than buying locally.
Many of my overseas purchases have been for stuff I couldn't get here.