So flipping tempting

[James Deuce]

http://www.visordown.com/road-tests-first-rides/first-ride-suzuki-gsx-s1000-review/26462.html#ixzz3Vhip0Z63

[ducatilover]

It's nice to see more naked sportstoys with actual silly power coming out :drool:

[Hitcher]

It's nice to see more naked sportstoys with actual silly power coming out

Some of us have already made the move to the Dark Side. Indeed Kawasaki has been there for a while.

[pritch]

That looks like a sensible bike, be interesting to read a detailed road test. Price could be relatively friendly too.

[Paul in NZ]

That looks like a sensible bike, be interesting to read a detailed road test. Price could be relatively friendly too.

and that's the death blow right there.....

[Hitcher]

and that's the death blow right there

If what I have been told by a Normally Reliable Source is correct, then pricing should do little to stop these selling by the container load.

[TheDemonLord]

I have one question on this - why the choice of a 10 year old Engine? why not retune the current GSX-R engine?

This makes me a little wary

[ducatilover]

I have one question on this - why the choice of a 10 year old Engine? why not retune the current GSX-R engine?

This makes me a little wary

The K5 motor is a fuckin' weapon. Absolute rip-snorting beast. And it'd be cheap

[sil3nt]

I have one question on this - why the choice of a 10 year old Engine? why not retune the current GSX-R engine?

This makes me a little wary
http://www.motorradonline.de/vergleichstest/test-suzuki-gsx-r-1000/405312

[pritch]

I have one question on this - why the choice of a 10 year old Engine? why not retune the current GSX-R engine?

This makes me a little wary

A roadster/naked bike doesn't need huge horsepower, but it does need torque. In the real world 130 to 140kph cruise is about the maximum sustainable with no wind protection. (I'm talking about a trip, not a ride around the block.) It helps if the engine is well into usable torque at that speed. Some journalists then tend to complain that the bike has been "emasculated". If, however, somebody does give the journalists what they want, the same journalists will complain that the engine is too peaky, so fuck the journalists.

When the Hornet 919 came out it had a "detiuned" Fireblade engine from a few generations previously and it worked just fine.

The price should be reasonable because they'll have save a lot of tooling costs by using an existing engine. If that frame is from an earlier bike too they'll have saved a whole lot more. It could be a seriously good buy but it might be advisable to factor in a suspension upgrade.

Then again, the only Suzuki I have ever owned was my SJ50. :scooter:

[iranana]

so flipping ugly

[Paul in NZ]

Either way its useless to me - no pillion accomodation

[yevjenko]

Either way its useless to me - no pillion accomodation
Yes there is

http://www.visordown.com/image.aspx?url=%2fuploads%2fimages%2foriginal%2f76 150.jpg&area=ARTICLES&category=Road+Tests%3a+First+Rides&title=&SiteChannelId=7&objectId=26462&objectTypeId=6&moduleId=8

[Banditbandit]

so flipping ugly

Oh .. I dunno .. it looks like a cross between a Bandit and a Gixxer - mostly Gixxer ...


Either way its useless to me - no pillion accomodation

That's what makes it appealing to some of us ... there's nowhere to put the wife/girlfriend/handbrake ...

And yes - If I was looking or another bike I'd be tempted ..

[Hitcher]

There's nowhere to put the wife/girlfriend/handbrake ...


Mac McDonald in Tauranga modified the egregious back seat on my Z1000 to make it more amenable for a pillion over moderate distances. I am certain he could do the same thing to this new Suzuki.

[Maha]

Oh .. I dunno .. it looks like a cross between a Bandit and a Gixxer - mostly Gixxer ...



What part looks like a Bandit?

It looks like the not so pretty step sister of the Honda Predator. Nothing/original new to see here.

[Paul in NZ]

Yes there is

http://www.visordown.com/image.aspx?url=%2fuploads%2fimages%2foriginal%2f76 150.jpg&area=ARTICLES&category=Road+Tests%3a+First+Rides&title=&SiteChannelId=7&objectId=26462&objectTypeId=6&moduleId=8

Your not married are you?

[swarfie]

Either way its useless to me - no pillion accomodation
+1 The missus and I have done a lot of miles/kilometres together on two wheels of all descriptions.:clap:

Yes there is

http://www.visordown.com/image.aspx?url=%2fuploads%2fimages%2foriginal%2f76 150.jpg&area=ARTICLES&category=Road+Tests%3a+First+Rides&title=&SiteChannelId=7&objectId=26462&objectTypeId=6&moduleId=8

But there's NO WAY in HELL she's ever going to get on that thing....!!!!
I guess they just don't make motorcycles for two people anymore.

[Kartik]

It's quite good looking and good specs to boot. But I personally think that the Z1000 looks way better than the Suzuki.

[Mike.Gayner]

I guess they just don't make motorcycles for two people anymore.

The fuck are you talking about? You could buy one of the THOUSAND OTHER FUCKING BIKES that cater towards two people. Pillios aren't exactly the target market for naked litre hooligan bikes.

[Paul in NZ]

The fuck are you talking about? You could buy one of the THOUSAND OTHER FUCKING BIKES that cater towards two people. Pillios aren't exactly the target market for naked litre hooligan bikes.

Actually there are fewer and fewer pillion friendly bikes. The aim being to get the lady onto her own bike.... Just saying that its never going to be on our shopping list... This thread isn't about a thousand other bikes its about this one... Or do you have an issue with people expressing opinions?

[Ender EnZed]

I have one question on this - why the choice of a 10 year old Engine? why not retune the current GSX-R engine?


That engine is widely considered the pick of the noughties litre bikes.

When I first read about the GSX-S I thought it looked pretty bland compared to the obvious big nakeds. At 140hp it's not remotely close to competing for top dog and it looks like a GSR.

But when it's phrased as "a naked K5 thou with wide bars and (hopefully) more low-mid range" then it suddenly seems a whole lot more interesting. Especially when I remember that I can't afford a Super Duke 1290, which is largely the reason I don't have one.

With a bit of luck it'll become the new Hornet 919. Only faster.

[Laava]

The fuck are you talking about? You could buy one of the THOUSAND OTHER FUCKING BIKES that cater towards two people. Pillios aren't exactly the target market for naked litre hooligan bikes.

Axhole, stop hacking other peoples logins!

[nzspokes]

With a bit of luck it'll become the new Hornet 919. Only faster.

And less boring.

[Ender EnZed]

And less boring.

Definitely.

It'd be pretty sad if it was faster and more boring.

[merv]

So many bikes nowadays have their backs cut off - I don't like the style so not for me.

[Ocean1]

Some of us have already made the move to the Dark Side. Indeed Kawasaki has been there for a while.

I had a wee sit on a Z100 SX the other day and one thing I noticed was that my knees immediately hurt. I see that article in question raises the same issue with the Suzuki, and indeed the same outfit criticized the Z1000 for the same thing.

So, as a big bloke how do you find it? I mean obviously if it were a problem you wouldn't be on it, but the leg room was definitely a factor for me in buying the 1290.

[MIXONE]

Some of us have already made the move to the Dark Side. Indeed Kawasaki has been there for a while.

And Honda for even longer.

[yevjenko]

Your not married are you?
Yes I am, but this isn't a touring bike so two up is not its native role

[Paul in NZ]

Yes I am, but this isn't a touring bike so two up is not its native role

In which case its not on my shopping list.

Oh blimmin heck - I give up...

[SVboy]

If what I have been told by a Normally Reliable Source is correct, then pricing should do little to stop these selling by the container load.

Please tell us more.........I am hoping to really like these.

[pzkpfw]

In a bang-for-bucks way, I'd expect an MT-09 to be my choice. This thing'll have to be well priced.

[SVboy]

In a bang-for-bucks way, I'd expect an MT-09 to be my choice. This thing'll have to be well priced.

I would argue that the MT09 is a $14000 bike that costs $20000 in order to make it the bike it should have been. No doubt the Suzuki will have some cost cutting too, but I am hoping they havent gone too far-like the GSR750 for example.

[pzkpfw]

I would argue that the MT09 is a $14000 bike that costs $20000 in order to make it the bike it should have been. No doubt the Suzuki will have some cost cutting too, but I am hoping they havent gone too far-like the GSR750 for example.

True, but "should have been" isn't the same as "needs to be".

For me, I'm sure the stock MT-09 would be fine. For others, maybe not.

[ducatilover]

True, but "should have been" isn't the same as "needs to be".

For me, I'm sure the stock MT-09 would be fine. For others, maybe not.

I'll agree with that. It may not have all the tasty shit I'd expect it to have, but it is no doubt a fuckin' grouse machine.
But then again, I'm the retard building a no-torque screamer naked 600 with tasty bits. And then a 600 with no power at all and a bit of torque and not a single tasty suspension/brake/chassis component :shutup: :facepalm:

[pzkpfw]

No price yet, but up on Suzuki NZ site:

http://www.suzuki.co.nz/Motorcycle/Sport/GSX-S1000A/

http://www.suzuki.co.nz/Motorcycle/Sport/GSX-S1000FA/


The 2016 GSX-S1000A is powered by a street-tuned version of the four-stroke, liquid-cooled, DOHC, 999 cc, inline-four engine that became a legend in the 2005–2008 GSX-R1000. The newly honed engine delivers smooth throttle response and immediate, controlled acceleration, so the sport rider experiences adrenaline-rushing performance.

[EJK]

Holy shit FA is ugly.

[ducatilover]

Holy shit FA is ugly.

Looks like a down syndrome DN-08 ran in to a stroke victim Diavel

[pzkpfw]

Prices now up on Suzuki.co.nz

GSX-S1000FA
$17,995 + ORC ( = GSX-R750 )

GSX-S1000A
$16,995 + ORC ( = in between GSX-R750 and GSX-R600)

... I'd have put Bandit price there too, for comparison, but it's fallen off their site.


(Edit: for the record, if my current bike wasn't worth a buck-fifty as a trade-in, it'd be the MT-09 for $13,999 I'd be looking at. But yeah, that GSX-S1000A seems a nice option ...)

[TheDemonLord]

I like the look of the FA - it looks like an Angry Eagle.

I'm going to organize a test ride for Shits and Giggles when it comes out.

[eelracing]

Browsing thru Brit bike mags and initial thoughts have it as 10 years to late and snatchy low end fueling...hamfisted track-oriented technopoofs to a man would describe most brit journos.
But not surprising when the majority of them worship Triumphs speed triples...which the S will eat alive torque-wise in comparative tests on real roads.

It's price is not perfect (should be cheaper)but is a hell of a lot of bike still.
I like it and am tempted...but might just wait for the 2016 GSX-R750???

[BMWST?]

Browsing thru Brit bike mags and initial thoughts have it as 10 years to late and snatchy low end fueling...hamfisted track-oriented technopoofs to a man would describe most brit journos.
But not surprising when the majority of them worship Triumphs speed triples...which the S will eat alive torque-wise in comparative tests on real roads.

It's price is not perfect (should be cheaper)but is a hell of a lot of bike still.
I like it and am tempted...but might just wait for the 2016 GSX-R750???

and it the unsung torque of the big bores that make em such weapons,even at lowish rpm

[Hitcher]

Spotted a couple of these at the top of the Futa Pass between Bologna and Florence a month or so ago. Both tricked up with Renthal bars and after-market levers and mirrors. The blue looks very nice, which was a surprise as I was underwhelmed by that colour in online images.

The Futa was great fun on an FJR two-up with luggage. It would be the absolute shizz on one of these Suzukis, or even a Z1000, for that matter.

[mossy1200]

+1 The missus and I have done a lot of miles/kilometres together on two wheels of all descriptions.:clap:


But there's NO WAY in HELL she's ever going to get on that thing....!!!!
I guess they just don't make motorcycles for two people anymore.

Then one day I won and now I have 2 bikes.

[mossy1200]

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-705365796.htm

Just saying.

[Hitcher]

Just saying.

One of those would be very happy on the Futa as well.

[mossy1200]

One of those would be very happy on the Futa as well.

I like the look of these also.
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-884386926.htm

[yevjenko]

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-705365796.htm

Just saying.
auction expired already :(

Anyway. Tuono 1100 please :)

[mossy1200]

auction expired already :(

Anyway. Tuono 1100 please :)

Rode up the hill last weekend with one. It was spanky new.

[yevjenko]

Rode up the hill last weekend with one. It was spanky new.
And.... Thoughts?

[mossy1200]

And.... Thoughts?

It sounded good leaving the lights on the motorway. It looked great up close at the top of the hill.

[yevjenko]

It sounded good leaving the lights on the motorway. It looked great up close at the top of the hill.
Ah. I thought you meant you rode it.

[mossy1200]

Ah. I thought you meant you rode it.

Nah just followed it a while then talked to the owner up the top. Think it had 100km on the clock. Looks like a fun ride though.

[rua]

Nah just followed it a while then talked to the owner up the top. Think it had 100km on the clock. Looks like a fun ride though.

Yeah that was me, much more bike than I'm used to and it's still the "getting to know you" phase.

Mossy's f4 in comparison is a work of art, the level of attention to detail is awesome.

Bang for buck the Suzi looks pretty sharp but I don't want to swap.

[AllanB]

Looked at one in the weekend.

Unfortunately it was blue. Looked like ......

The other two colours look better in the photos.

Price is good. Wonder if they will be cheaper in Summerfest .....



Also, interesting point - if I posted up on KB I was paying that amount for a 10 year old engine you hos would slag me off something awful. BUT the exercise is valid by Suzuki - price it well, design well and it should sell.

Anyway - I have a sniff and itch for a Ducati......... which means value for money is a mute point in my search.

[mossy1200]

Yeah that was me, much more bike than I'm used to and it's still the "getting to know you" phase.


You probably beat me to first service. Im still under 1k.
Every time its nice I seem to be working.

[Hitcher]

which means value for money is a mute point in my search.

Moot point.

moot
muːt/Submit
adjective
1.
subject to debate, dispute, or uncertainty.
"whether the temperature rise was mainly due to the greenhouse effect was a moot point"
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"whether the temperature rise is due to the greenhouse effect is a moot point"
2.
having little or no practical relevance.
"the whole matter is becoming increasingly moot"
verb
1.
raise (a question or topic) for discussion; suggest (an idea or possibility).
"the scheme was first mooted last October"
synonyms: raise, bring up, broach, mention, put forward, introduce, advance, present, propose, suggest, submit, propound, air, ventilate
"the idea was first mooted in the 1930s"
noun
1.
historical
an assembly held for debate, especially in Anglo-Saxon and medieval times.
2.
LAW
a mock judicial proceeding set up to examine a hypothetical case as an academic exercise.
"the object of a moot is to provide practice in developing an argument"

[Bassmatt]

Looked at one in the weekend.

Unfortunately it was blue. Looked like ......

The other two colours look better in the photos.

Price is good.

A gsx s?
Where? My local suzuki dealer says they wont be instore until sometime in September.

[Bassmatt]

So I test rode one of these today. Very nice. Comfortable riding position, suspension seemed fine, oodles of power all through the rev range with a nice kick at about 7000rpm. The throttle is a bit snatchy, as reported in most reviews, but I found it easy enough to get used to.
Liked it so much I bought one, pick it up after the national launch on Saturday. Fuck yeah....cant wait :Punk:

[Ender EnZed]

So I test rode one of these today. Very nice. Comfortable riding position, suspension seemed fine, oodles of power all through the rev range with a nice kick at about 7000rpm. The throttle is a bit snatchy, as reported in most reviews, but I found it easy enough to get used to.
Liked it so much I bought one, pick it up after the national launch on Saturday. Fuck yeah....cant wait :Punk:

Good stuff. Naked or faired?

I saw them today, the FA looked a lot less heinous in the flesh than it does in photos.

[TheDemonLord]

When I next take the 'Busa in for a service, I will see if I can organise their Test model as a Lone bike :eek:

[AllanB]

Hey SUZUKI NZ say it has smooth throttle response ......

http://www.suzuki.co.nz/Motorcycle/Street/GSX-S1000A/

[Bassmatt]

Good stuff. Naked or faired?

I saw them today, the FA looked a lot less heinous in the flesh than it does in photos.

Naked, in blue. Haven't owned one before so....
I agree the F looks better in the flesh still a bit meh for me tho. The red and black is really really nice, will be the most popular colour I would think.
Did I mention the sound ? Its gotta be the best sounding stock exhaust around. Its normally the first thing I change but I think I'll leave this one on for a while, looks ok too.

:banana: I'm a wee bit excited. :eek:

[98tls]

Hey SUZUKI NZ say it has smooth throttle response ......

http://www.suzuki.co.nz/Motorcycle/Street/GSX-S1000A/

Suzuki also says "own the streets":laugh::laugh::sick:Fuck you that shit made me retch....