Does this bike look repaired from a crash to you?

[Jsrich]

Heres a side view.

http://imgur.com/a/TWCOc

Farings look different than OEM stock ones due to sticker removal.. replaced farings maybe? Also new clutch and brake levers and handlebars different from stock. Shorty pipe.

Scratches on swingarm, owner claims these are from boots but the footpegs are way to high and forward for them to be from boots...? maybe?

He says that the bike has never been dropped or crashed... would you think that statement is true from these pictures?

[mossy1200]

Always difficult to tell from photos. Never trust anyone always go check unless you don't mind losing money.

[Jsrich]

Always difficult to tell from photos. Never trust anyone always go check unless you don't mind losing money.

Yeah thanks. Any way to tell if it has been crashed if there is nothing visual apart from the marks on the swing arm on both sides?

Maybe a wobble or shaky bike?

[nzspokes]

Scratch on the frame? I would pull the fairings to look.

Lower scratches on the swingarm will be from a stand going on the bobbins.

[Jsrich]

Scratch on the frame? I would pull the fairings to look.

Lower scratches on the swingarm will be from a stand going on the bobbins.

Ah right will have to check for scratches on the frame when I view, thanks for the point :2thumbsup

[carburator]

Heres a side view.

http://imgur.com/a/TWCOc

Farings look different than OEM stock ones due to sticker removal.. replaced farings maybe? Also new clutch and brake levers and handlebars different from stock. Shorty pipe.

Scratches on swingarm, owner claims these are from boots but the footpegs are way to high and forward for them to be from boots...? maybe?

He says that the bike has never been dropped or crashed... would you think that statement is true from these pictures?

The bike has been thrashed, in one of the trademe photos you can tell where the radar detector sat.
balls, whats the ass wearing motocross boots.. might be low kms for the age but id bet its done a few
track days at high rev's

interesting to note, does he have a motor traders licence also lack of plate numbers.
at least see what the history according to car jam is..

[F5 Dave]

The bike has been thrashed, in one of the trademe photos you can tell where the radar detector sat.
balls, whats the ass wearing motocross boots.. might be low kms for the age but id bet its done a few
track days at high rev's

..
Yeah. That's what sports bikes are for. And pretty girls. Unless you buy new or date virgins you'll just have to get over it. And not think of that hot sweaty guy, pounding and pounding and pounding


your bike around the track

[carburator]

Yeah. That's what sports bikes are for. And pretty girls. Unless you buy new or date virgins you'll just have to get over it. And not think of that hot sweaty guy, pounding and pounding and pounding
your bike around the track

yea and tonight another guy in another thread is crying over a spun bearing which the 07r1/r6's are known
to do..

[AllanB]

Fucks sake mate. if you don;t like it fucking move on. Sheeeezzzz fucking internet.

[PrincessBandit]

Yeah. That's what sports bikes are for. And pretty girls. Unless you buy new or date virgins you'll just have to get over it. And not think of that hot sweaty guy, pounding and pounding and pounding


your bike around the track

Hey, at least he didn't say "only one lady owner".

Some good points about things to look for for the inexperienced bike hunter. Second hand is always a risk but nothing beats going and looking for yourself and taking it out for a decent ride, putting it through it's paces; then using your ears and own experience for assessing how it handles and sounds.

Also a lot probably depends on how you want to ride it yourself - continue whipping it, or gentle pootles. Crashed and repaired doesn't necessarily mean road menace or life threatening (my bandit is a good example of that). If it has been mangled, who did the repair work - receipts for parts and labour etc.??

[jellywrestler]

ask to see all the parts that were replaced, or the trademe links to where they were sold.

[pritch]

The bike has been thrashed, in one of the trademe photos you can tell where the radar detector sat.


That the bike was fitted with a radar detector is not evidence of the bike having been thrashed. It may, on the other hand, be an indication that the owner was better at risk estimation and management than most of the population. There are still smokers who worry about terrorists after all.

[biketimus_prime]

The guy selling it has a few other bikes for sale recently and has an MV Agusta that has been on for at least 6 months now.
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Members/Listings.aspx?member=1071591

I think he's a bit of a bike/car dealer as I've followed his auctions for a while. Those swing arm marks aren't from boots, how the hell do you damage it like that, it has been dropped. My R6 has the same damage on the left side from a drop. The arm damages really easily as it is quite soft too.

Could well be insurance auctions that he wins, repairs then sells on as some prices are quite low for what it is.
However if it has been written off and he had to go through compliance, that's even better than buying a bike that has the same dodgy looking history and "damage" but only a warrant.
Because at least compliance rips the bike apart and looks it over so you know it's safe. Anyone can get a warrant on a bike for the right amount of beer money.

Also to note the warrant is yearly and it expires next year in march, so he has recently got it a warrant.
As someone who has bought numerous bikes and cars over the last few years (close to 5 or 6 of each!)
Questions to ask would be: How long has he had it, why the sale, any warrant failures? Is it recomplied or previously crash damaged?
Ask them multiple times with different wording over the course of the viewing too, I've found some answers change and they don't realise!
Depending on how he answers them will put you at ease or make you more suspicious. You will know when to walk away or dig deeper.

[yevjenko]

Questions to ask would be: How long has he had it, why the sale, any warrant failures? Is it recomplied or previously crash damaged?
Ask them multiple times with different wording over the course of the viewing too, I've found some answers change and they don't realise!
Depending on how he answers them will put you at ease or make you more suspicious. You will know when to walk away or dig deeper.

Carjam will answer those questions for you, but still ask the seller as well. The way he answers will be worth a shed load