I is not impressed

[vifferman]

Just registered my VFR this morning, after having recentlyish insured it. The comprehensive insurance for my bike and gear through KiwiBike was $420.50. In contrast, registration was $528.71, of which $397.18 was the ACC levy. This is why I can't afford new bike pants. In fact, after 41 years of motorcycling, I'm really starting to wonder whether it's worth having a bike anymore. I use it only for commuting, and what with tyres, rego, WOFs, servicing, etc., it's become a pretty expensive toy, that ends up spending all but about an hour and a half per week at most just sitting there doing nothing. So, if I ignore fuel, just the other expenses are costing me at least $20 per hour. Of course, if I rode more often, the hourly cost would go down a bit, as some of the expenses like replacement gear, regular servicing, tyres, etc. would be averaged over a larger number of hours.
On the other hand, if I took the bus (my only other option, unless I leave before 6AM every morning), it would cost me $60/week, and instead of 30-40 minutes of OK-ish, more-or-less-enjoyable transit each day, it would be at least an hour of tedium, sharing germs and body odour with other (probably even stranger) communterers.

[Gremlin]

Ride more, you said it yourself :eek:

I wish my insurance was that cheap, lack of a garage plus other things means about triple that. Still, no increase in rego over 600, so go large! 1200cc for me :laugh:

[EJK]

Just registered my VFR this morning, after having recentlyish insured it. The comprehensive insurance for my bike and gear through KiwiBike was $420.50. In contrast, registration was $528.71, of which $397.18 was the ACC levy. This is why I can't afford new bike pants. In fact, after 41 years of motorcycling, I'm really starting to wonder whether it's worth having a bike anymore. I use it only for commuting, and what with tyres, rego, WOFs, servicing, etc., it's become a pretty expensive toy, that ends up spending all but about an hour and a half per week at most just sitting there doing nothing. So, if I ignore fuel, just the other expenses are costing me at least $20 per hour. Of course, if I rode more often, the hourly cost would go down a bit, as some of the expenses like replacement gear, regular servicing, tyres, etc. would be averaged over a larger number of hours.
On the other hand, if I took the bus (my only other option, unless I leave before 6AM every morning), it would cost me $60/week, and instead of 30-40 minutes of OK-ish, more-or-less-enjoyable transit each day, it would be at least an hour of tedium, sharing germs and body odour with other (probably even stranger) communterers.

$420.50 comprehensive cover? What a bargain!

[Tazz]

Everything like that seems to be going up in price. If you switch back to a car it will still balance out. Depending on your bike a car would probably be more expensive, I know mine is, which is why I leave it parked in a garage 4 hours away :laugh:

Joys of life eh.

[bogan]

RC36 insurance (full cover, whole year) $70. No I haven't missed out a zero. Rego, n/a :whistle: Wof, like 80bucks per year now, can I rant out that a little or would that be in poor taste :bleh:

[iYRe]

not to mention that recent studies showed that people sitting in buses had more pollution in their lungs than pedestrians and cyclists (and motorcyclists).

Buses are evil and should be banned.

[cheshirecat]

I do the shopping with mine, and take the dog on it so the cars redundant except maybe half a dozen times a year where a beer or two gets a friends motor.

[Bikemad]

i registered a couple of mine the other day BUT i only registered them till the 1/7 as the rates are going down after that.

[Akzle]

hahahaha. Registration.

[MarkH]

if I rode more often

Was there a question? Regardless this is the answer. Ride more often is ALWAYS the answer!

[mossy1200]

One of mine costs 50cents per km plus fuel. Not being able to hear the wife is priceless.

[Mr Revhead]

i registered a couple of mine the other day BUT i only registered them till the 1/7 as the rates are going down after that.

Unless they have changed their minds in the last month or so, no it's not. Motorcycles are not included in the ACC levy drop

[Waihou Thumper]

i registered a couple of mine the other day BUT i only registered them till the 1/7 as the rates are going down after that.


Not for bikes they aint mate! and if you think they are? Tui billboard material.
Diesels and cars yep, bikes, no way at all....We make the statistics look bad, didn't ya know that?

[Voltaire]

hahahaha. Registration.
hahahaha, don't even own a running bike

[nzspokes]

hahahaha, don't even own a running bike

Well yes. That was my thought. Guess he could put pedals on it and cycle down the road.

[Bikemad]

Not for bikes they aint mate! and if you think they are? Tui billboard material.
Diesels and cars yep, bikes, no way at all....We make the statistics look bad, didn't ya know that?


not what the lady at the PO said.........

[Waihou Thumper]

not what the lady at the PO said.........

Umm, and they sell stamps, gifts and don't really know the legislation perhaps?
That is why the LTSA were so polite dropping leaflets in with new registration reminders and clearly stating the above....
Good luck in getting excited but prepare yourself for a nasty surprise....:)

http://nzta.govt.nz/vehicle/registration-licensing/docs/2015-acc-levy-reduction-and-vrr-introduction-faqs.pdf

That'll burst your bubble mate...sorry...

[R650R]

Still a hell of a lot cheaper per hour than a decent hooker...

Your living on the NorthShore, paying inflated property/rates/rent prices and quibbling about the cost of running a bike hhhmmmmmmm
A bike is just like a good mistress its all about the fun factor, trying to make economic sense of it is just crazy...

[Waihou Thumper]

Still a hell of a lot cheaper per hour than a decent hooker...


Now there's an oxymoron....:2thumbsup

[Swoop]

Simple solution. Put the rego on hold.

That simple action has saved me heaps over the past few years.

[mossy1200]

not what the lady at the PO said.........

Wifey works at NZ Post and all information of what vehicles are being reduced has not been made available. Some motor vehicles are reducing 20-24% is the information she has.
Indications based on rego renewals are if you have a vehicle being reduced your registration mail indicates to register until 1/7/15. Motorcycle renewals do not contain this information and its assumed by ACC comments that motorcycle accidents remain proportionally too high for a reduction in registrations meaning there will be no lowering of prices. Wouldn't surpise me if there is an increase coming soon.

[AllanB]

Yeah, did mine in the weekend for three months. Questioned the price and he told me to 'fall off if you like - you've earned it' WTF!

[swbarnett]

trying to make economic sense of it is just crazy...
Unless you ditch the car completely and just use the bike.

[nzspokes]

Unless you ditch the car completely and just use the bike.

The kids and dog dont fit to well in the top box.

[swbarnett]

The kids and dog dont fit to well in the top box.
Indeed.

One of the advantages of having neither.

[nzspokes]

Indeed.

One of the advantages of having neither.

Some dont see not having them as an advantage.

[Bikemad]

Umm, and they sell stamps, gifts and don't really know the legislation perhaps?
That is why the LTSA were so polite dropping leaflets in with new registration reminders and clearly stating the above....
Good luck in getting excited but prepare yourself for a nasty surprise....:)

http://nzta.govt.nz/vehicle/registration-licensing/docs/2015-acc-levy-reduction-and-vrr-introduction-faqs.pdf

That'll burst your bubble mate...sorry...
POP!:laugh:

Wifey works at NZ Post and all information of what vehicles are being reduced has not been made available. Some motor vehicles are reducing 20-24% is the information she has.
Indications based on rego renewals are if you have a vehicle being reduced your registration mail indicates to register until 1/7/15. Motorcycle renewals do not contain this information and its assumed by ACC comments that motorcycle accidents remain proportionally too high for a reduction in registrations meaning there will be no lowering of prices. Wouldn't surpise me if there is an increase coming soon.

yep.....wouldn't surprise me at all........bumjuice!
ya project K is lookin mighty fine by the way.........:niceone:

[swbarnett]

Some dont see not having them as an advantage.
Agreed. Each to their own.

[rocketman1]

To buy something and than figure how much it has cost per use is silly.
I have a $20,000 boat and only caught 5 fish this year, thats alot of money / fish.
I have friend who bought a $80,000 holden clubsport did 3years driving traded it for $43K, thats a straight loss of $35/day or $243/wk.
I,d love $243 per week, or 4-5 weeks would cover all your biking costs per year.
A work colleague spent $3500 on golf clubs , play about 10 times a year? go figure.

Get real, whats $1000/year, for rego + insurances on a bike that is so much fun.
Spend heaps on things you like, thats my advice, and dont think twice what it costs, you only live once..

[mossy1200]

ya project K is lookin mighty fine by the way.........:niceone:

Thanks it owes me 2.5k per km so far.

Watched a doco on rail cars. 15 tho per 1/4 mile if it doesn't blow up. That's expensive

[HenryDorsetCase]

Just registered my VFR this morning, after having recentlyish insured it. The comprehensive insurance for my bike and gear through KiwiBike was $420.50. In contrast, registration was $528.71, of which $397.18 was the ACC levy. This is why I can't afford new bike pants. In fact, after 41 years of motorcycling, I'm really starting to wonder whether it's worth having a bike anymore. I use it only for commuting, and what with tyres, rego, WOFs, servicing, etc., it's become a pretty expensive toy, that ends up spending all but about an hour and a half per week at most just sitting there doing nothing. So, if I ignore fuel, just the other expenses are costing me at least $20 per hour. Of course, if I rode more often, the hourly cost would go down a bit, as some of the expenses like replacement gear, regular servicing, tyres, etc. would be averaged over a larger number of hours.
On the other hand, if I took the bus (my only other option, unless I leave before 6AM every morning), it would cost me $60/week, and instead of 30-40 minutes of OK-ish, more-or-less-enjoyable transit each day, it would be at least an hour of tedium, sharing germs and body odour with other (probably even stranger) communterers.

I totally get that.

A usable Jap classic is the answer. Stone axe reliable even 40 years old. Great parts support (obviously not from your local Honduh dealer) easy to work on. Looks like a proper motorbike not a poop that satan did into a condom then baked at 180 for 45 minutes. retro fit an electronic ignition and maybe rebuild the carbs. get on and ride.

Rego is 111 per annum.

Here's your answer son: http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=869198411

[Akzle]

To buy something and than figure how much it has cost per use is silly.
I have a $20,000 boat and only caught 5 fish this year, thats alot of money / fish.
I have friend who bought a $80,000 holden clubsport did 3years driving traded it for $43K, thats a straight loss of $35/day or $243/wk.
I,d love $243 per week, or 4-5 weeks would cover all your biking costs per year.
A work colleague spent $3500 on golf clubs , play about 10 times a year? go figure.

Get real, whats $1000/year, for rego + insurances on a bike that is so much fun.
Spend heaps on things you like, thats my advice, and dont think twice what it costs, you only live once..

your pretty shit at fishing

[GrayWolf]

Just registered my VFR this morning, after having recentlyish insured it. The comprehensive insurance for my bike and gear through KiwiBike was $420.50. In contrast, registration was $528.71, of which $397.18 was the ACC levy. This is why I can't afford new bike pants. In fact, after 41 years of motorcycling, I'm really starting to wonder whether it's worth having a bike anymore. I use it only for commuting, and what with tyres, rego, WOFs, servicing, etc., it's become a pretty expensive toy, that ends up spending all but about an hour and a half per week at most just sitting there doing nothing. So, if I ignore fuel, just the other expenses are costing me at least $20 per hour. Of course, if I rode more often, the hourly cost would go down a bit, as some of the expenses like replacement gear, regular servicing, tyres, etc. would be averaged over a larger number of hours.
On the other hand, if I took the bus (my only other option, unless I leave before 6AM every morning), it would cost me $60/week, and instead of 30-40 minutes of OK-ish, more-or-less-enjoyable transit each day, it would be at least an hour of tedium, sharing germs and body odour with other (probably even stranger) communterers.

$4-500 at our age, experience is about right on a 10-20k value bike, even at $20 an hour, your own description of the different journies kinda gives you your answer, shorter time. more pleasant, less germs, body odour, smokers breath etc, etc....

[rocketman1]

your pretty shit at fishing

Tell me about it

[Big Dog]

Tell me about it

All the more reason to practice eh?


Stupid phone / Tapatalk, apologies in advance.

[F5 Dave]

Tell me about it

ok. Your shitness is in relation to your fishing skills, the way, where & when you fish who you fish with and why you fish (they can tell I bet). OK I've pretty much run out of subject matter, but it was a good attempt to tell you about it.
[disclaimer] last time I fished was for spottys off the wharf with me dear old granddad. But I caught some, so I clearly must be a subject matter expert.

Glad I could help out.

[Akzle]

Tell me about it

need a bigger boat...

[Big Dog]

need a bigger boat...

It's not the size of the boat, it's the motion of the ocean. Iykwim


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