Sidestand doesn't inspire confidence

[biketimus_prime]

Hi all,

Just wondering what the deal is with sidestands on bikes, can you replace them with "stronger" ones?
My 2005 R6 factory sidestand is so skinny and actually flexes back and forth if a decent weight is applied or even when resting the bike on it.
I've seen videos of guys moving their bikes around on the spot by using the sidestand, I don't think I could do that with my one. I'm worried the stand will fail after repetitive cycles of flexing.

Can I get upgraded stands? Is the R6 known for a bitchass stand and what do you do to fix it?
I assume once you upgrade the stand, there is more stress on the pivot, but I'm sure it could handle it better than the current stand.

[ellipsis]

...I wonder if their are lots of R6's lying down all over the world right now...prob not...

[Tazz]

Sounds like you've lost the factory toolkit man. Mine came with a little Japanese dude that holds it up.

[FJRider]

Sounds like you've lost the factory toolkit man. Mine came with a little Japanese dude that holds it up.

It must be an older model then ... mine came with a Japanese chick ... :msn-wink:

[biketimus_prime]

Lots of people online talking about how flimsy it is but none talking about it failing... Just wondered what you guys thought regarding it. I'm just scared I'll turn up to find my bike over on it's side one day. The stand actually rests in a curved state, you can see it flex and then hold it's position when you put the weight of the bike on it.

[The End]

Can definitely be done on the R6

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[nzspokes]

Can definitely be done on the R6



God thats an ugly helmet.

I do the sidestand turn all the time, more so on my 1200 Bandit cause its to hard to push about.

[Mike.Gayner]

Can definitely be done on the R6

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"Put your steering wheel like this" WTF

[Big Dog]

It can be upgraded. Question is do you need to?
If there is no evidence this is a risk ( thousands sold world wide and you can't find evidence of any reports of them breaking ) perhaps Yamaha got it right.
Or maybe the flex is intentional? To cure the problem that used to exist with a lot of sports bikes of the stand just folding up without any interaction when used on the flat.
If you take your time you will find plenty of aftermarket (usually height adjustable because this kind of mod is more common in a height conversion) options. If both sides of the hinge are alloy you should really stay alloy.

You could talk to an engineer about getting more material added.

You could google / trademe /eBay aftermarket ones.

You could pop it off and go to a wreckers and see what they have that would work. May need a little modification to fit.

Most options will add weight over the stock stand one on a modern sport bike.


Stupid phone / Tapatalk, apologies in advance.

[Tazz]

Lots of people online talking about how flimsy it is but none talking about it failing... Just wondered what you guys thought regarding it. I'm just scared I'll turn up to find my bike over on it's side one day. The stand actually rests in a curved state, you can see it flex and then hold it's position when you put the weight of the bike on it.

Measure it and replace?
If you've read up and it's not a problem for anyone else it's usually a sign though ;)


God thats an ugly helmet.

I don't think a mother could even love that helmet.

[AllanB]

Meh - no record of them failing.

Have you seen those Harley ones - they lock in position but the position is often lightly rearwards so it looks and feels like the stand is not forward enough and will roll back. Freaks me out anytime I ride a Hog.


Lots of Italian bikes side stands stand the bike too upright IMO. A good fart could blow some of them over.


Ducati have had a few issues with some models over the years.


You could always park it up in your garage on a race stand if it gives you the shits.

[Katiepie]

I have an '08 R6. The guy who did my last WOF tried to turn the bike on the stand (in front of me) and the stand snapped and the bike was on the ground. Didn't have the cash for a new stand so have had that one repaired, re-welded and strengthened. Not sure if it's the original stand or not. But it didn't seem to cope too well with the added pressure on it.

[Tazz]

I have an '08 R6. The guy who did my last WOF tried to turn the bike on the stand (in front of me) and the stand snapped and the bike was on the ground. Didn't have the cash for a new stand so have had that one repaired, re-welded and strengthened. Not sure if it's the original stand or not. But it didn't seem to cope too well with the added pressure on it.

Well there you go.

The WOF dude should have replaced your stand though.

[bogan]

Yeh don't do the lean and spin thing, puts forces on em they were never designed for. The stand itself can take a bit of flex (if steel) its the foot and the pivot you gotta watch, foot for penetrating the ground, and pivot for shear/wear (esp if some po muppet has been putting the whole bike weight on it).

[kiwi cowboy]

It must be an older model then ... mine came with a Japanese chick ... :msn-wink:

And that upse you didn't it cos you only bought the r6 to get the little guy didn't you?.

[FJRider]

And that upse you didn't it cos you only bought the r6 to get the little guy didn't you?.

You quoted one of my typo's ... actually I meant to say ... I came with a Japanese chick ... :Offtopic:

[kiwi cowboy]

You quoted one of my typo's ... actually I meant to say ... I came with a Japanese chick ... :Offtopic:

Is the "with" another typo that should have been "in"? just checking:innocent:

[breakaway]

I have an '08 R6. The guy who did my last WOF tried to turn the bike on the stand (in front of me) and the stand snapped and the bike was on the ground. Didn't have the cash for a new stand so have had that one repaired, re-welded and strengthened. Not sure if it's the original stand or not. But it didn't seem to cope too well with the added pressure on it.



Um, why did you have to pay for someone elses fuck up?

[biketimus_prime]

I have an '08 R6. The guy who did my last WOF tried to turn the bike on the stand (in front of me) and the stand snapped and the bike was on the ground. Didn't have the cash for a new stand so have had that one repaired, re-welded and strengthened. Not sure if it's the original stand or not. But it didn't seem to cope too well with the added pressure on it.

Wonder if the 08 R6 stand is same as the 05. That's the problem I thought I might run into.
That video of the guy doing it to his R6 is what made me ask this question in the first place.
It's just so flexy! The stand when you put it down first slides away from the bike, I guess to give a more stable position, but it's the flex that is unnerving.

Anyway it's a good discussion, interesting to hear some first hand experience about it breaking. katiepie what part of the stand broke and did the person who repaired it have anything to say about it?

[Katiepie]

Wonder if the 08 R6 stand is same as the 05. That's the problem I thought I might run into.
That video of the guy doing it to his R6 is what made me ask this question in the first place.
It's just so flexy! The stand when you put it down first slides away from the bike, I guess to give a more stable position, but it's the flex that is unnerving.

Anyway it's a good discussion, interesting to hear some first hand experience about it breaking. katiepie what part of the stand broke and did the person who repaired it have anything to say about it?

It snapped a few cm's above the foot. To be honest don't think it would have ever happened if someone hadn't tried to turn the bike on it with the full weight on it in a way it's not designed to hold. But then again not so flash that it snapped when others turn their bikes on the stands no issues. It's not something I would do myself so don't think it will be a concern again. The angle the bikes sit on in the wind when parked on the stand shouldn't cause too much concern. A little flex in it mind you would not give me much confidence in it either.

I was super happy that I had put crash bungs on it - guy blamed my quality of stand, I paid for repair - no biggie. Not too worried about it happening again, wont let anyone turn it on the stand. My repair might have a weak point but that's the risk I take with a repaired stand. That one is on me.

[biketimus_prime]

Well doesn't look like it'll be doing those sidestand turns then. Gonna check out the sidestands of newer R6s when I get the chance and see if they're better.
I just feel like it's a ticking time bomb where it'll fail after so many cycles of flexing.

[carburator]

It snapped a few cm's above the foot. To be honest don't think it would have ever happened if someone hadn't tried to turn the bike on it with the full weight on it in a way it's not designed to hold. But then again not so flash that it snapped when others turn their bikes on the stands no issues. It's not something I would do myself so don't think it will be a concern again. The angle the bikes sit on in the wind when parked on the stand shouldn't cause too much concern. A little flex in it mind you would not give me much confidence in it either.

I was super happy that I had put crash bungs on it - guy blamed my quality of stand, I paid for repair - no biggie. Not too worried about it happening again, wont let anyone turn it on the stand. My repair might have a weak point but that's the risk I take with a repaired stand. That one is on me.

Id be smacking the wof guy around the back of the head for being a dick more so if the tweeter couldn't pay for repairs.
Mind you the local VTNZ hates my guts anyway, more so when you can quote chapter and verse back at them for
stupid stuff