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yassterday
25th April 2015, 18:28
i have a ninja 300 and im still a learner are lams bikes allowed to have an exhaust on? not performance exhausts just to get a nice deeper noise?
if so what exhaust would you recommend?
Akzle
25th April 2015, 18:32
an* exhaust.
yw.
unstuck
25th April 2015, 18:41
are lams bikes allowed to have a exhaust on?
Yes.:devil2:
yassterday
25th April 2015, 18:48
Yes.:devil2:
thanks! would you recommend any? i dont want anything to loud as it can get annoying on longer rides..
unstuck
25th April 2015, 19:04
Whats wrong with putting the stock one on? Two brothers make a nice sound on them things. IMO.
Murray
25th April 2015, 19:55
i have a ninja 300 and im still a learner are lams bikes allowed to have an exhaust on?
Are they allowed to not have an exhaust on???
Erelyes
25th April 2015, 20:06
i have a ninja 300 and im still a learner are lams bikes allowed to have an exhaust on? not performance exhausts just to get a nice deeper noise?
if so what exhaust would you recommend?
Anything that reduces weight OR increases power is technically illegal.
Of course the chances of you getting caught out are slim. Depends whether you're being a tool, what mood the cop is in, blah blah.
As for whether it's worth it, depends on how much $$$ you have to play with and how long you intend to keep the thing for. Don't plan on the exhaust increasing the resale by anything, is all I'll say.
Mike.Gayner
25th April 2015, 23:53
A Ninja 300 sounds like crap with a noisy exhaust. Save your money for when you get a proper bike.
mossy1200
26th April 2015, 02:00
A Ninja 300 sounds like crap with a noisy exhaust. Save your money for when you get a proper bike.
Plus one. The noise they make is bad enough to make a bogan cry.
WNJ
26th April 2015, 10:41
Didnt it come with an exhaust attached? :blink:
TheDemonLord
26th April 2015, 10:55
Anything that reduces weight OR increases power is technically illegal.
Of course the chances of you getting caught out are slim. Depends whether you're being a tool, what mood the cop is in, blah blah.
As for whether it's worth it, depends on how much $$$ you have to play with and how long you intend to keep the thing for. Don't plan on the exhaust increasing the resale by anything, is all I'll say.
me personally, I wouldn't bother, once you get your full you will want to sell and get a full power bike
Mo NZ
26th April 2015, 12:37
me personally, I wouldn't bother, once you get your full you will want to sell and get a full power bike
Yup. That's the right answer.
Rikard
27th April 2015, 23:39
Spoke to the guys down at tss Red Baron today and they reckoned since 2 weeks ago you can't add any power enhancing mods to a bike legally as a lams rider. True your chances of getting caught are slight but if you stack it and expect your insurance company to pay you out forget about it.
Akzle
28th April 2015, 00:31
Spoke to the guys down at tss Red Baron today and they reckoned since 2 weeks ago you can't add any power enhancing mods to a bike legally as a lams rider. True your chances of getting caught are slight but if you stack it and expect your insurance company to pay you out forget about it.
how do you manage to feed yourself?
Gremlin
28th April 2015, 00:37
how do you manage to feed yourself?
Behave... you're in the newbie section... everyone had to start somewhere.
As said, technically, anything that increases the power to weight ratio (reducing weight or increasing hp) is not legal for LAMS. No, it hasn't been for 2 weeks, it's been since LAMS began from memory.
Mo NZ
28th April 2015, 06:33
I may have been 2 weeks ago an assessor had a look at a bike ridden by a LAMS rider and the bike had been altered.
Yippee says the assessor I can deny that claim. :eek5:
If they can find a reason not to pay out they will use it every time.
That's the first thing they look at.
Are we liable?? Lets have a close look for any alterations. etc.
Do your time and trade that bike when you can and buy another bike.
mossy1200
28th April 2015, 06:47
Clip taken from star insurance.
"What this also means: Learner and restricted riders, riding bikes on the prohibited list or modified to increase the power to weight of the bike will not be covered in the event of a claim."
mossy1200
28th April 2015, 07:00
Taken from state insurance.
"There’s no cover under this policy if the driver of any vehicle: 1. does not comply with all the conditions of his or her driver licence,"
Rikard
28th April 2015, 08:52
Okay I'm with you. The way he said it made it sound as if there was some wiggle room with slower bikes previously. Example if you put an exhaust on a cruiser 250. It's not putting out much power and it weighs a ton so flicking on an exhaust still isn't going to bring its power to weight ratio up to anything above other lams approved bikes. That was what he told me anyway.
On another note I'm looking at buying an rc390....maybe as soon as today. Ridden Kim's for ages sxf 350, sxf 250 and exc 520, thoughts on the bike? To me it all seems pretty great. I mean the Honda salesman told me that I'll get a sore bum and sore arms after 3 hours of riding it but surely that part of the charm right :)?
5ive
28th April 2015, 09:28
If you really want to buy a bike, don't come here asking for people's "opinions". They're just going to talk you out of it. Go test ride them and make your own financial decisions.
Today's drinking game = 1 shot per time you hear the following:
-"Don't buy a new one, you'll drop/crash it"
-"Don't buy a new one, they're all crap, older bikes were better" (apparently speed beats safety,comfort, technology, handling, WEIGHT)
-"Don't buy that one, it's crap (but I've never ridden one, I just know)"
-"hoW du u manage 2 feeD urselF?" (or other poor attempts at trolling)
-"Wait (the 18/24 months) until you have your full licence before buying a decent* bike"
-"Don't buy a new bike, they're overpriced. Buy an older, high km, thrashed bike that's still overpriced instead (and costs more money to fix/maintain)"
Goodluck!
*debateable examples given of "decent"
Rikard
28th April 2015, 10:20
If you really want to buy a bike, don't come here asking for people's "opinions". They're just going to talk you out of it. Go test ride them and make your own financial decisions.
Today's drinking game = 1 shot per time you hear the following:
-"Don't buy a new one, you'll drop/crash it"
-"Don't buy a new one, they're all crap, older bikes were better" (apparently speed beats safety,comfort, technology, handling, WEIGHT)
-"Don't buy that one, it's crap (but I've never ridden one, I just know)"
-"hoW du u manage 2 feeD urselF?" (or other poor attempts at trolling)
-"Wait (the 18/24 months) until you have your full licence before buying a decent* bike"
-"Don't buy a new bike, they're overpriced. Buy an older, high km, thrashed bike that's still overpriced instead (and costs more money to fix/maintain)"
Goodluck!
*debateable examples given of "decent"
Without a doubt the best advise I've had yet. Thanks man :)
Akzle
28th April 2015, 10:52
Honda salesman told me that I'll get a sore bum
:killingme
he's right you know
Big Dog
28th April 2015, 11:08
I mean the Honda salesman told me that I'll get a sore bum and sore arms after 3 hours of riding it but surely that part of the charm right :)?
:killingme: yep, Honda salesman would know.
Stupid phone / Tapatalk, apologies in advance.
rastuscat
28th April 2015, 11:32
Gremlin nailed it.
Regardless of your motivations for modifying a LAMS bike, the way people take the mickey out of the system has caused a very unambiguous set of rules to be written.
If you make a bike more powerful or lighter than it was the day it left the factory, it's non-LAMS compliant. End of.
I reckon there are only maybe 25 cops in the country who would realize that, so you have little to fear from the Popo about doing it. The problem is with the insurance issues.
It might be a silly rule, but it's been caused by the piss taking that's happened over the years.
Totally your call.
Rikard
28th April 2015, 11:44
:killingme: yep, Honda salesman would know.
Stupid phone / Tapatalk, apologies in advance.
Read that while drinking a cup of coffee. Now there's coffee everywhere.....
Rikard
28th April 2015, 11:49
Gremlin nailed it.
Regardless of your motivations for modifying a LAMS bike, the way people take the mickey out of the system has caused a very unambiguous set of rules to be written.
If you make a bike more powerful or lighter than it was the day it left the factory, it's non-LAMS compliant. End of.
I reckon there are only maybe 25 cops in the country who would realize that, so you have little to fear from the Popo about doing it. The problem is with the insurance issues.
It might be a silly rule, but it's been caused by the piss taking that's happened over the years.
Totally your call.
Seems pretty fair to me. You can still get yourself into plenty of trouble on a LAMS bike :yes:.
Luckylegs
28th April 2015, 11:50
Okay I'm with you. The way he said it made it sound as if there was some wiggle room with slower bikes previously. Example if you put an exhaust on a cruiser 250. It's not putting out much power and it weighs a ton so flicking on an exhaust still isn't going to bring its power to weight ratio up to anything above other lams approved bikes. That was what he told me anyway.
On another note I'm looking at buying an rc390....maybe as soon as today. Ridden Kim's for ages sxf 350, sxf 250 and exc 520, thoughts on the bike? To me it all seems pretty great. I mean the Honda salesman told me that I'll get a sore bum and sore arms after 3 hours of riding it but surely that part of the charm right :)?
Yeh i've ridden Kim's for ages too but really did prefer Monica's and Angela's if i'm honest.
Rikard
28th April 2015, 11:59
Yeh i've ridden Kim's for ages too but really did prefer Monica's and Angela's if i'm honest.
Hey man you forgot Lizzie. Everyone's ridden one of those ;).
Big Dog
28th April 2015, 12:55
Read that while drinking a cup of coffee. Now there's coffee everywhere.....
Then my work here is done.
Ps I get sore arms but not a sore arse on my Honda. Guess that's because I rarely take a pillion these days. Bit of a reach around required to maintain flow on the other hand.
Stupid phone / Tapatalk, apologies in advance.
mossy1200
28th April 2015, 19:20
Honda salesman told me that I'll get a sore bum and sore arms after 3 hours of riding.
You asked an old salesman on Viagra about a discount on a new Honda?
russd7
10th May 2015, 10:20
I mean the Honda salesman told me that I'll get a sore bum and sore arms after 3 hours of riding it but surely that part of the charm right :)?
now that really sets up the honda rider thing, did he explain why sore arms and sore ass after three hrs riding, i imagine that being on all fours for three hrs would give anyone sore arms but did he also tell you that knee pads would stop your knees from hurting so much, as for the ass, im not going there, but if thats part of your charm, so be it for me to say otherwise :facepalm:
eldog
10th May 2015, 10:51
me personally, I wouldn't bother, once you get your full you will want to sell and get a full power bike
so a full power bike has an exhaust?:devil2:
eldog
10th May 2015, 10:53
now that really sets up the honda rider thing, did he explain why sore arms and sore ass after three hrs riding, i imagine that being on all fours for three hrs would give anyone sore arms but did he also tell you that knee pads would stop your knees from hurting so much, as for the ass, im not going there, but if thats part of your charm, so be it for me to say otherwise :facepalm:
Are Honda bikes the only ones who allow male pillions?:crazy:
mossy1200
10th May 2015, 12:04
Are Honda bikes the only ones who allow male pillions?:crazy:
On you get Chaps!!:argh:
GrayWolf
10th May 2015, 13:24
Without a doubt the best advise I've had yet. Thanks man :)
he left one important one off the list... buy this particular model.... old bike, because it's the shizz and unbreakable, can thrash them night and day...
which has been done for 10-20yrs... but of course thy wont need high levels of maintenance and wont be almost worn out, or ready to 'grenade', oh nosirree not these babies :baby::lol::lol::lol:
casualsonic
10th May 2015, 14:02
If you really want to buy a bike, don't come here asking for people's "opinions". They're just going to talk you out of it. Go test ride them and make your own financial decisions.
Today's drinking game = 1 shot per time you hear the following:
-"Don't buy a new one, you'll drop/crash it"
-"Don't buy a new one, they're all crap, older bikes were better" (apparently speed beats safety,comfort, technology, handling, WEIGHT)
-"Don't buy that one, it's crap (but I've never ridden one, I just know)"
-"hoW du u manage 2 feeD urselF?" (or other poor attempts at trolling)
-"Wait (the 18/24 months) until you have your full licence before buying a decent* bike"
-"Don't buy a new bike, they're overpriced. Buy an older, high km, thrashed bike that's still overpriced instead (and costs more money to fix/maintain)"
Goodluck!
*debateable examples given of "decent"
TOP MAN!!!! [emoji106]🏻
Wish this site had a like button haha
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BMWST?
10th May 2015, 14:19
TOP MAN!!!! [emoji106]🏻
Wish this site had a like button haha
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it has kinda its the little star button bottom left.By clicking on it you will add to the "reputation" of the poster of the message that you liked.
russd7
10th May 2015, 18:01
it has kinda its the little star button bottom left.By clicking on it you will add to the "reputation" of the poster of the message that you liked.
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