Ducati Scrambler

[rastuscat]

I was out the back at Casbolts in Christchurch this morning when the Scramblers were being off loaded.

They were in big shipping crates, so I didn't get a look, but I'm intrigued.

I'll be back next week for a shufty.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/motoring/bikes/67766774/new-scrambler-ducati-a-boundary-breaker

[HenryDorsetCase]

I hope they get a demo one.

I sat on an R nine T yesterday.

verrrrry nice.

[mossy1200]

Rather a 961 but 43k. Cant afford that.

[Gremlin]

Looks like a Grom with nothing to give it perspective :lol:

[neels]

I wonder if it's a real scrambler, or just another urban posing machine(as in the motorcycle equivalent of a fendalton tractor)

If it is actually any good off a sealed road, I'd be tempted to ditch the DRZ and take one out to get dirty, it would be very cool to have an italian v twin for on and off road.

[Black Knight]

Triumph have had one for a while,Guzzi recently announced a kit to convert std to a scrambler-The bike manufacturers have to come up with something new for 2015
now that sportsbikes are getting hard to sell,the "new" 500/750 HD might revive HD sales-Personally I think scramblers are cool,but then I am biased,I own a 2002 original scrambler and love it.

[raziel1983]

The old tech lump in it and the short service intervals that go along with said lump kind of put me off..

[cs363]

The old tech lump in it and the short service intervals that go along with said lump kind of put me off..

The 796 engine was new in 2009, albeit based on earlier engines.
Service intervals are considerably longer compared to older Ducati engines on all models since 2008 - see attached scheduled maintenance charts and quote from Ducati's website below:

"The enjoyment of riding, reliability and maximum containment of maintenance costs are among the main criteria that drive every engineering project in Ducati. We have spread out services to intervals of 24,000 km (15,000 miles) and on some models the main Desmo Service is not necessary until 30,000 km (18,000 miles). Even the simplest services, the Oil Service, have been spaced out to 12,000 km (7,500 miles) or 15,000 km (9,000 miles), values that represent an absolute reference for high performance engines."

Looks like the Scrambler has some off-road capability though I guess it depends how serious you are about going off-road: http://dirtbikemagazine.com/home-features/ducati-scrambler-off-road-monster

http://www.motorcycle.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/121114-2015-ducati-scrambler-_G203024.jpg
http://dirtbikemagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/newmax2-750x400.jpg

[raziel1983]

Still, a valve clearance check with every oil change..? Maybe I've been spoiled by Japas..

[Tazz]

Also the sump or filter was dented after the ride pictured above from memory.

The listed cons of the first article were a bit of a blow, kinda defeated the point of all the words above it.


Hot: Ducati aims at a new market with a bike that debuts a new brand and a riding dynamic that is reminiscent of its early single-cylinder models, beautifully made in Thailand.

Not: Dedicated Ducati aficionados should buy Monsters instead and enjoy their better engines, brakes, and suspension; one-position seat; I'd be instantly swapping the handlebars.

[ellipsis]

...just rub a 50/50 mix of sperm oil and lanolin over everything, not forgetting to include the zip on your gitaway for the day, back pack and all should be just,:wari: hunky dory...

[cs363]

Also the sump or filter was dented after the ride pictured above from memory.

The listed cons of the first article were a bit of a blow, kinda defeated the point of all the words above it.

Filter probably, if it was the crankcase I'd imagine the damage would have been more serious.

The comments regarding Monsters for Ducati aficionados hold true for most I think, even for Ducati - they know they're aiming for a different market entirely (and it's mainly in the US) as evidenced by the branding and marketing (Scrambler with Ducati as subtext), even the dealers have to display them and their accessories in a separate area with no Ducati signage, only Scrambler.
I think it's the equivalent to Ducati of a Porsche Cayenne - it'll undoubtedly sell well but predominantly to non-typical Ducati buyers.

On the positive side it is considerably lighter and has a lot more horsepower than Triumph's equally street based 'Scrambler' and like that bike will be a perfectly enjoyable ride for those that fit the ergonomics (apparently not ideal for the taller rider) and just want an urban bike capable of the odd weekend jaunt down country with the possibility of some unpaved roads. On that basis you'd think it should do OK in NZ.

[cs363]

Still, a valve clearance check with every oil change..? Maybe I've been spoiled by Japas..

Haters gonna hate as the saying goes.

You obviously have no idea how easy and quick a valve clearance check on most Ducati 2 valve motors are or of the cost of those services in comparison to doing the same on a VFR1200 at roughly twice the mileage of the Ducati (as prescribed by Honda - I'd rather do valve clearances on a CBX 6 than one of those...).
Or that by merely fitting aftermarket valve collets from MBP http://emsduc.com/mbp-retaining-system/ (the weak point in the Ducati valve train) the valve inspection and adjustment intervals can be extended to 30,000km's, but regardless it's pointless trying to argue with a troll which was obviously your real reason for posting.

I imagine you drive a beige Toyota Camry too, very functional, reliable and huge service intervals, hell most of the Jap import ones have never been serviced.

Each to their own.

[Tazz]

Filter probably, if it was the crankcase I'd imagine the damage would have been more serious.

The comments regarding Monsters for Ducati aficionados hold true for most I think, even for Ducati - they know they're aiming for a different market entirely (and it's mainly in the US) as evidenced by the branding and marketing (Scrambler with Ducati as subtext), even the dealers have to display them and their accessories in a separate area with no Ducati signage, only Scrambler.
I think it's the equivalent to Ducati of a Porsche Cayenne - it'll undoubtedly sell well but predominantly to non-typical Ducati buyers.

Yeah I meant to add to that I was not sure if the author missed the point of the bike or if the bike missed the point of itself, in their opinion.

[Ikarus]

Rode it - I'm too old for that kind of thing ...