Schuberth helmets?

[Wingnut]

Specifically the flip top ones. Have many of you guys got any of these? Just after a bit of feedback on flip top helmets in general..

[pritch]

Out of date info, but I had a "golf ball" one many years ago. Wind noise was high, which I attributed to the join where the helmet met the flip up part. Engine/road noise was lower than anything I've had since because of the leather "shield" under the chin.

[Hobbyhorse]

Voltaire has one and swears by it .... very quiet and he no longer has to wear ear plugs under it.

[rastuscat]

As someone who used a C2 then a C3 professionally, they are great helmets.

Only down fall with them is the longevity of the pivot, a few of us had the mechanism wear out over time, so the face wouldn't stay up.

We now use Series 6 Evo Beemer hats, and we've had a pretty good run from them. I bought one personally too, best helmet I've ever had.

I don't know why someone would have a fixed face helmet. The modular ones are so versatile. A couple hundred extra grams means nothing to me, and I wear helmets for 10 hours at a time.

I'd suggest if you're looking for a private use helmet, the Schuberth is a good idea, but not if you're a very heavy user.

[Voltaire]

Voltaire has one and swears by it .... very quiet and he no longer has to wear ear plugs under it.


Yes best helmets I have had.
the flip front is not a quiet as the non flip one I use for racing.

I came off last weekend racing at Taupo and in the few seconds of sliding thought " hope my helmet is ok" and it was :niceone:

[samgab]

I recently went to a flip top helmet, and I love it. I also love the flip down sun visor inside it.
But, I went for the cheapest flip top I could get, and although it's good, the wind noise is a bit annoying, and it's quite heavy.
When I can afford one, I'm going for the Schuberth C3 Pro.
It's not only said to be the quietest Modular helmet (82dB), it's also quite a bit lighter than the LS2 I currently use (~1.6Kg vs. ~2.2Kg).
It's also got a much larger pinlock visor insert area than my LS2, and it comes with a pinlock insert included, rather than an optional extra.
Better in almost every way than the cheap LS2. Of course, a lot more expensive too, but I think it'll be worth it... When I can afford to get one.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQ7fJXh6bqo

[NiggleC]

Back in about 1989 I purchased my 1st Schuberth helmet. Not the golf ball but the standard one they produced. The finish was excellent and the wind noise was minimal due in part to the vinyl spoiler that went across under the chin area. I loved it and would have worn for years had i been able to get visors for it. I got my 1st flip front helmet in 2004, an HJC. Great helmet for the price and one i found quite comfortable. it was quite noisy compared to the KBC V1 standard full face i also had at the time but i had been using ear plugs since the early '80's so it didn't bother me at all. The convenience of not always having to take it off when paying for petrol (Shell excepted) was good. Also the ability to eat something (tried velcroing a banana to the tank bag) while on the move was handy. Last xmas i purchased a Schuberth C3. Remember being back in primary school when your mum would buy these very sturdy shoes that took weeks to break in? Thats my impression of this Schuberth. Its 1st big outing was on the 2nd January. Just a day trip up to Kaikoura. There were pressure points on my head that became quite uncomfortable and i had to have a couple of breaks on the way up and take it off and give my head a rub much to the amusement of my lovely pillion. No head massages were in the offing tho'. I had also not used any ear plugs that day and what i did notice was that it was quieter than any other helmet i had used BUT what i did end up with was head full of, and i am unsure if this is the right expression, white noise. It was the usual buffeting noises that had been reduced but something from another frequency had got to me. My Vstrom has a Givi aftermarket screen on it and thats the only screen i have ever used on that bike. Maybe that is part of the problem but in the end the fix is easy. Ear plugs. So a few months down the track its feeling much more comfortable to wear and I wear it at least 3 days a week commuting. Anything longer than my commute and i put ear plugs in. I also wear glasses and the drop down sun visor has been fantastic. I would give it a rating of 8 out of 10 based mainly on build quality, the sun visor and the materials used in the interior. It was on special (read 1/2 price) when i bought it which made it more attractive but if it was ruined tomorrow would i buy another at full retail is the big question.

[eldog]

Originally I tried to get a Beemer Helmet - none available at that time, they where then made by Schuberth...

Anyway I tried all other helmet brands I could.
You need to try them on then go back in a week or so, then try it on again. You will find your face will change if you try to many on one after another, sounds strange but it happens.

Got down to 2 Brands and 3 different models - my heads a funny shape - not enough in it I guess.

The Schubeth S2 really fitted like a glove - its a fixed lid, it was like I didn't have a helmet on, good tight fitting like we all like. but reality set in, the guy suggested since I was a NOOB to get the flip face as I wasn't going racing and was testing out the bike stuff.

I tend to try and research my gear and get the best I can afford so in the long run I might benefit. The C3 Pro hadn't come out to NZ by then.

So I brought the C3

Between the Schubeth and the other helmets it was really the fit and small finish stuff (like STST pins for the pivot locks) that really sealed it.
Here is what I found - my own personal opinion

Fit, nice and tight and has remained so for the 2 or so years I have worn it, the interior is almost like new.
I wear a neck warmer AND a Balaclava to keep the interior of the helmet clean - I work and my hair is often greasy and as a NOOB nervous sweating was a problem.
NOTE: if you wear a Balaclava the helmet will change size and will feel loose if you try to wear it with the b'clava

The Interior is nicely padded and has a Summer/Winter little pad which you can use to block the cold air beating down through the vent (its up inside the Helmet at the top-can feel like 2 small cold fingers on your head)
I installed the chin guard and the neck padding too, reduces the wind noise a lot.
I use the neck warmer to just seal off the area under my neck and to stop wind passing into the top of my jacket

If I didn't do the above most of the noise COMES UP under the Helmet, once you sort this (same as other helmets) the noise reduces a lot.

You need to make sure you hear BOTH latches engage - it does 95% of the time - its how you do it, sometimes they go together, so I undo it just to make sure

There is a good amount of space between my chin/mouth and the inside of the helmet (for me) which I had a problem on other helmets I tried.
The chin vent is easy to use and doesn't let in any water.
The top vent I usually leave fully open - I get hot and that is easy to use

A nice feature which you get is the continuous flow of air through the helmet (even when fully closed-I think its about 5%?) - you just don't notice sometimes that you are not actually breathing while riding and it keeps the air fresh.

I ride with the chin down and locked and I don't ride anywhere as much as other riders so cant say how the hinge lasts - I probably wont find out either

There is a good amount of noise reduction which is nice - but I will leave it to other more experienced people to say if the helmet is truly quiet compare to other makes/models - rather than just rely on advertising crap.

I like the Retaining Strap and the little release tab, it takes a bit to adjust, on/off/adjust/on etc but its worth it and the cross over fabric with Velcro stops the main strap from pinching your neck/throat
I did initially found the strap sometimes rubbed a little on my throat, with the neck warmer I haven't noticed.
The use is so quick and easy, Can do it with gloves, but I prefer to put my helmet on with my hands before my gloves (they are Revit Alaska heavy winter ones-so not quite a nimble as other types)
The latch just clicks away as you engage it and comes to a stop - all done.

All round vision is excellent as the view port seemed larger than the other brand I got down to the final 3 (see top) I have quite good peripheral vision so the wider the port the better.
Couldn't see any imperfections in the clear visor.

A nice feature is that once the helmet is fitted properly there is at the rear a device (cant think of a better description ATM) that helps prevent the helmet from coming off your head. It sort of comes in under the back of your head and is no invasive. Try it once its on, it works.

Initially I didn't install the pinlok - I had no idea what it did and too scared to install it - you gotta bend it a lot and there is a small bead of silicon on the edge.
Anyway after a few weeks of riding to work (and being a NOOB) the helmet used to fog up with my nervous heavy breathing, I often rode with the visor up just to see or I would stop and let it clear LOL
I finally installed the Pinlok - OMG so much better, OK I did see the silicon edge but after a few rides no worries, occasional light lens effect on the edges but so small - no worries

One of the Main Selling points for me was the little built in sun visor.
and This feature alone would sell me another
The sun visor has a nice shape and DOESNT hit the bridge of my nose, AND it can be adjusted up and down incrementally AND it will STAY there - nice when the sun is going down or early in the morning
Most other competitors its either UP OR DOWN or the shape would hit my nose.

a little aside - don't rub the sun visor and if you need to clean it just a very small amount of water, its in the MANUAL READ IT

I use a micro fibre cloth soaked in water and put it over the visor to loosen any bugs/crap and a small wipe in the morning cleans it all.

Suggest opening visor up flat put cloth described above onto it and lower the sun visor - it helps keep the helmet fresh and rejuvenates the sun visor anti fog coating

The Helmet is MUCH LIGHTER than other brands and doesn't do to badly in the Snell and Sharp tests (not as well as I like)

The only real gripe I have is the rear vent - it comes out at the back of the helmet at the bottom edge.... If I install my neck warmer in the wrong position it blocks the vent and the volume of air passing through the helmet reduces.

If its not blocked there is a nice amount of air - which I am happy with.

There is no noise from the visor (I travel to slow)
Occasional very small splashes of water with the visor just cracked open in heavy rain - but so small, just freshes you up LOL.

When the visor is fully closed and snapped shut - use thumb under the chin and fingers on the visor to click it into place - its a beauty to wear.

The C3 PRO has an enlarged rear vent and some other small mods like the built in antenna (I don't know if this works with non schubeth comms gear?)

So if you want my opinion: try it and if it fits BUY ONE :yes: or something very similar


I would still buy the C3 if the C3 Pro was out of my price range, just saying.


..... I had been thinking about writing something like the above for a while, sorry if it seems a little confusing

Don't buy a helmet based on brand names, buy one that fits tight on the cheeks (it will loosen a little after a few rides and some brands have extra cheek pads) - there plenty of web based videos on helmet fitting
and take my advice, try some one and go back in a week or 2 and try on these that you liked, after visiting nearly every shop in AKL I came back with only 3 or 4 types - it was a good experience

ride safe

[mossy1200]

A couple hundred extra grams means nothing to me, and I wear helmets for 10 hours at a time.


Great work story bro.

[CRM]

I have a C2 and it's pretty great really. I use it for winter/touring riding as it is very snug - and use my old Shoei for putting around town or warm weather riding. The C2 is pretty quiet - I don't bother with ear plugs. I don't use the tinted visor - I suspect it's had the wrong sort of cleaning at some stage and surface is spoiled. The C2 is easy to wear over glasses - just leave them on and put the helmet over - piece of cake :Punk:.

[rastuscat]

I'd never have another helmet without an internal sun visor.

Too good to do without.

[The Baron]

The C3 "Basic" is out this month and is much cheaper than the C3 pro.

I am looking forward to seeing it my self.

Ride safe.

[Wingnut]

I'd never have another helmet without an internal sun visor.

Too good to do without.

Definitely adds to the appeal. Is quite a popular option on many lids these days. How close do they come to the bridge of the nose? Any downsides?

[Digitdion]

I love my C3. Light. The sun visor is awesome. Pin lock visor.
Very good product.

[Big Dog]

As someone who used a C2 then a C3 professionally, they are great helmets.

Only down fall with them is the longevity of the pivot, a few of us had the mechanism wear out over time, so the face wouldn't stay up.

We now use Series 6 Evo Beemer hats, and we've had a pretty good run from them. I bought one personally too, best helmet I've ever had.

I don't know why someone would have a fixed face helmet. The modular ones are so versatile. A couple hundred extra grams means nothing to me, and I wear helmets for 10 hours at a time.

I'd suggest if you're looking for a private use helmet, the Schuberth is a good idea, but not if you're a very heavy user.

I don't know about 2015, but in 2008 or 2009 I looked at some BMW hats because they had bigger jaws than the Asian offerings. I commented then that there was a visual similarity to the schuberth I had just been looking at elsewhere. Just different paint and clip.
Sales person pulled back the liner. Label inside: manufactured by schuberth.


Stupid phone / Tapatalk, apologies in advance.

[nzspokes]

Buy what fits best. If you crash it, replace it.

Some of us even clean em from time to time.

[Maha]

Definitely adds to the appeal. Is quite a popular option on many lids these days. How close do they come to the bridge of the nose? Any downsides?

Unless you have a snoz that is of exceptional size, there wont be a problem. Don't have to wear sunglasses which can be a pain plus you get to look like Maverick from Top Gun.:corn:

[Wingnut]

Unless you have a snoz that is of exceptional size, there wont be a problem. Don't have to wear sunglasses which can be a pain plus you get to look like Maverick from Top Gun.:corn:

Maverick was a sulky little muppit. Now Iceman was the business..... Though cant help bit see all the homosexual connotations now in retrospect :)

Anyway. Thanks for you feedback all. The last two lids have been Arais and its time fora change

[aws]

I've been using a C3 every day for almost 2 years. It's a great helmet - much better than the LS2 and Nolan that I had before it. As others have mentioned, it's light, quiet, well ventilated, comfortable and convenient.

I do however have some minor gripes with it. The anti-fog on the sun-visor doesn't work very well at a standstill - perhaps this is just a result of the excellent neck seal. I get quite a bit of rain entering the chin vent when open and it splashes up the inside of the visor. The back of the helmet is cut quite high so rain goes down my neck when I turn to check before changing lanes. There used to be a slight whistling noise from somewhere, but maybe I've just gotten used to this now. And finally I bumped into something the other day and scratched the visor, but there are no replacements in the country, so it'll be at least 2 or 3 weeks before I have a clear view again.

Having had my moan, I'd still buy another, or better still the C3 Pro. And I'd be a really happy camper if the supplier could keep a decent stock of spares😜

[rastuscat]

I don't know about 2015, but in 2008 or 2009 I looked at some BMW hats because they had bigger jaws than the Asian offerings. I commented then that there was a visual similarity to the schuberth I had just been looking at elsewhere. Just different paint and clip.
Sales person pulled back the liner. Label inside: manufactured by schuberth.


Stupid phone / Tapatalk, apologies in advance.

I'm not sure about now either, but I do know that Schuberth made my old Series 5 bimmer hat. I'm not sure about my private Series 6 Evo or my work Series 6.

The pivot is all that let the C3 down, and that's after constant use for a couple of years. It's probably be fine under regular but not constant use.

The head shapes are slightly different from the bimmers too. The only real way to know if it's a good fit is to try them on.

Basically, any of the high end helmets are great helmets. I just have my personal preference.

[Kickaha]

I'm not sure about now either, but I do know that Schuberth made my old Series 5 bimmer hat.
They made my System 3 BMW Helmet as well, I thought they manufactured all the BMW helmets