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pritch
6th May 2015, 09:22
Since the famous "fracas" which resulted in the BBC not renewing Jeremy Clarkson's contract there has been considerable speculation as to a possible replacement.
The British bookmakers were taking bets on who would replace Clarkson but none of the names on whom they were offering odds meant anything to me. One name, the one I thought most qualified, did not rate a mention last time I looked.
Overnight though it has been reported several times that the BBC is currently in talks with Guy Martin to take over Clarkson's role.
Martin: truck mechanic, motorcycle racer, TV presenter, and "as mad as a box of frogs" should be able to do it if anybody can.
This is a guy who tried to launch a rocket out of his arse. Unfortunately the rocket didn't move, it just stuck there firing flames at his arse. IIRC he had to race the next day with a badly blistered bum.
Martin, an admirer of British engineering, owns that ultimate symbol of Brit engineering a Rolls Royce Merlin engine. The engine with its propeller is mounted on a trailer. Martin, being of an enquiring mind, wanted to know how the engine would perform if he removed the governor. While at a friend's workshop he fired up the engine. On reaching hitherto unprecedented revs the trailer started to roll. Martin immediately cut the throttle but the trailer had momentum - and no brakes. The bloke standing in front of the engine to take a photo had to dive for his life. The prop did major damage to the workshop.
Martin's TV efforts have been successful so far, but taking over Top Gear would be a risk. I didn't previously watch the programme much, Clarkson didn't like bikes and always rigged bike/car races so that the car would win, and a lot of what they did seemed just silly. If Martin takes over though I might start watching. He would certainly seem to have potential.
mashman
6th May 2015, 09:55
"The Sunday Express claims that the line-up was overheard during a lunch meeting between former producer Andy Wilman and Jamiroquai singer Jay Kay." (https://uk.tv.yahoo.com/is-this-the-new-top-gear-line-up----daily-tv-round-up-112500449.html)
imdying
6th May 2015, 09:58
Biggest risk would be can the international audiences decipher WTF he is saying?
Banditbandit
6th May 2015, 10:11
Overnight though it has been reported several times that the BBC is currently in talks with Guy Martin to take over Clarkson's role.
Pity he doesn't appear to speak English ...
nodrog
6th May 2015, 10:15
Like it or not, Clarkson, may, and Hammond were top gear. With anybody else its not going to be anywhere near the same.
example is the terrible Australian and american versions.
I note that Guy Martin is surprised by the comments that he is in the running for the job.
If he were to get the gig, subtitles would come back into fashion.
Secondly. OFCOM is investigating the use of the word "pikey" on TG.
No wonder the three of them left. Getting away from BBC bullshit will enable them to have a lot more fun on a new telly programme.
Banditbandit
6th May 2015, 10:25
If they get Jodie Kidd .. I'd watch every episode .. tastier than jeremy ...
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2007/09_03/jkiddMS2209_468x321.jpg
Banditbandit
6th May 2015, 10:30
This would explain a lot - not excuse but certainly explain Clarkson's state of mind ...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3045316/Jeremy-Clarkson-reveals-told-cancer-Gear-fracas-day-happened-stressful-27-years-BBC.html
Two days before assaulting a BBC producer, Jeremy Clarkson was told by a doctor that he might have cancer.
Speaking for the first time in detail about the incident that resulted in his sacking from the Top Gear show, 55-year-old Clarkson said being given the warning was one of the most stressful experiences of his life.
In an attempt to explain his state of mind at the time of the attack, he said: ‘Two days before the “fracas”, I had been told, sternly, by my doctor that the lump on my tongue was probably cancer and that I must get it checked out immediately. But I couldn’t do that.
'We were in the middle of a Top Gear series. And Top Gear always came first.’
Clarkson said he had now been given the all-clear, but wrote in his column in The Sunday Times: ‘That was the most stressful day I have ever had in 27 years at the BBC.
‘It was beyond-belief stressful, everything was gong wrong, and then you know... there you go. But everyone has stressful days, and they manage to cope better than I had.’
MisterD
6th May 2015, 10:34
Pity he doesn't appear to speak English ...
...says a Kiwi :weird:
Guy Martin is the new Fred Dibnah.
http://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/resources/images/637120.jpg?type=articleLandscape
Banditbandit
6th May 2015, 10:38
...says a Kiwi :weird:
Naaa ... that response was way too predictable ..
MisterD
6th May 2015, 10:42
Naaa ... that response was way too predictable ..
Some setups just have to be knocked down, it's a law of the universe, or something.
If you can't understand a Northerner speaking, 'appen it's your problem, not there'n.
TheDemonLord
6th May 2015, 10:52
Jodie Kidd - Meh - she was fast in the reasonably priced car, but not sure how well she would fit in.
I would certainly give Top Gear a look in with Guy presenting though - I loved a couple of his series that he did - especially the spitfire rebuild.
Dunno about the other guy though....
willytheekid
6th May 2015, 10:59
Top gear?....Clarkson & the lads ARE top gear!
Sorry, but the shows gone!, dead!, history!!...you can't replace the CORE of the show and expect people to simply "adjust" to new presenters.
...Or do you HONESTLY think that Jodie will drive a modded 4x4 across the antartic just because she had an idea to do it over a pint with the lads?...or Guy Martin will suddenly learn the english language enough to becoming riviting AND understandable...and for Philip to suddenly become ...well...interesting! (Have you guys even SEEN his current show?...ZZZZzzzzzz - Same goes for Jodies!, its not really about the car's!, its about the "style" of the car (Like there a fashion excesory) and the wonderful "lifestyle" of owning classic's:tugger:...there about as interesting as there current shows ratings prove!)
R.I.P Top gear...it was a great journey...looking forward to the lads new project ;) (Netflicks for one are hounding them...and the BBC SHOULD be worried if they go for a new GLOBAL!! deal...imagine Clarkson & co with no restraints and a bigger budget!...madness shall insue)
http://images-cdn.9gag.com/photo/aB369DA_700b.jpg
Banditbandit
6th May 2015, 11:11
If you can't understand a Northerner speaking, 'appen it's your problem, not there'n.
No .. it's the BBC's problem .. if they want people to watch their show then they have to employ people who most of the audience can understand ...
Banditbandit
6th May 2015, 11:14
Jodie Kidd - Meh - she was fast in the reasonably priced car, but not sure how well she would fit in.
...Or do you HONESTLY think that Jodie will drive a modded 4x4 across the antartic just because she had an idea to do it over a pint with the lads?...
Who cares .. she's HOT
http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--of5nE8mx--/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_636/18rf4aqpqe58njpg.jpg
BuzzardNZ
6th May 2015, 11:30
I'd be happy with either of these as a Clarkson replacement...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ricky_Gervais
or
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Coogan
TheDemonLord
6th May 2015, 11:36
Who cares .. she's HOT
It may come as a surprise - but I don't watch TG for the attractiveness of the presenters...
Reckless
6th May 2015, 11:51
Wasnt there a rumor that someone else might take on the whole team and carry one with the show??
If that happens a rival show is out Id imagine?
Secondly they've sorta done it all by now it was getting a little same old same old.
willytheekid
6th May 2015, 12:02
Wasnt there a rumor that someone else might take on the whole team and carry one with the show??
If that happens a rival show is out Id imagine?
Secondly they've sorta done it all by now it was getting a little same old same old.
YUP!...netflicks and MANY others have approached the team about doing a new show...with a much bigger budget and no public TV/BBC "restraints" to hold them back...should be very interesting what happens:yes:
MisterD
6th May 2015, 12:05
[QUOTE=BuzzardNZ;1130860435]I'd be happy with either of these as a Clarkson replacement...
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Well, I guess they'd tick the BBC's bleeding-heart lefty criteria...they're funny as scripted characters (well Coogan usually is, Gervais, not so much) but as presenters being themselves? Pass.
If they're going to keep the Top Gear brand going, then they need to kill this format along with Clarkson and come up with something new. If they try to fit three new bodies into the old format, it's going to fail.
Anyway, if Jodie Kidd's the token chick, where's the token Ethnic? Lenny Henry? :laugh:
Banditbandit
6th May 2015, 13:22
It may come as a surprise - but I don't watch TG for the attractiveness of the presenters...
There seems to be bugger all other reasons to watch TV .. I certainly don't watch it for the quality of the programming ..
Gadget1
6th May 2015, 13:32
Top gear?....Clarkson & the lads ARE top gear!
Sorry, but the shows gone!, dead!, history!!...you can't replace the CORE of the show and expect people to simply "adjust" to new presenters.
...Or do you HONESTLY think that Jodie will drive a modded 4x4 across the antartic just because she had an idea to do it over a pint with the lads?...or Guy Martin will suddenly learn the english language enough to becoming riviting AND understandable...and for Philip to suddenly become ...well...interesting! (Have you guys even SEEN his current show?...ZZZZzzzzzz - Same goes for Jodies!, its not really about the car's!, its about the "style" of the car (Like there a fashion excesory) and the wonderful "lifestyle" of owning classic's:tugger:...there about as interesting as there current shows ratings prove!)
R.I.P Top gear...it was a great journey...looking forward to the lads new project ;) (Netflicks for one are hounding them...and the BBC SHOULD be worried if they go for a new GLOBAL!! deal...imagine Clarkson & co with no restraints and a bigger budget!...madness shall insue)
Strangely enough, was thinking about this when I stopped for a break during my ride today. You've summed it up well.
Gadget1
6th May 2015, 13:36
If they get Jodie Kidd .. I'd watch every episode .. tastier than jeremy ...
I'd probably be watching if it was her too, but not listening to a thing she said. There's bugger all about cars that's of any use anyway.
[QUOTE=BuzzardNZ;1130860435]I'd be happy with either of these as a Clarkson replacement...
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Well, I guess they'd tick the BBC's bleeding-heart lefty criteria...they're funny as scripted characters (well Coogan usually is, Gervais, not so much) but as presenters being themselves? Pass.
If they're going to keep the Top Gear brand going, then they need to kill this format along with Clarkson and come up with something new. If they try to fit three new bodies into the old format, it's going to fail.
Anyway, if Jodie Kidd's the token chick, where's the token Ethnic? Lenny Henry? :laugh:
I went to see Lenny Henry standup when he came over, wasn't that funny.
MisterD
6th May 2015, 14:28
I went to see Lenny Henry standup when he came over, wasn't that funny.
Doesn't matter, the only important criteria is that he isn't white.
Pity he doesn't appear to speak English ...
He could always become the new Stig... :lol:
pritch
6th May 2015, 16:48
This would explain a lot - not excuse but certainly explain Clarkson's state of mind ...
I have no wish to appear unsympathetic. I was thinking though that the four hours drinking Clarkson was reportedly doing while he delayed the return filght of the helicopter to the hotel might have been more of a contributing factor. The chef got fed up waiting and went home, Clakson deservedly got a cold dinner.
caseye
6th May 2015, 19:12
I have no wish to appear unsympathetic. I was thinking though that the four hours drinking Clarkson was reportedly doing while he delayed the return filght of the helicopter to the hotel might have been more of a contributing factor. The chef got fed up waiting and went home, Clakson deservedly got a cold dinner.
Tisk, tisk, how uncharitable.
Top Gear is NEVER going to be the same without the lads.
Good luck to whoever takes em all on and puts them out there as simply themselves with a car or two, it will work!
Why? harder to explain, but put simply, they enjoy what they're doing.
I don't care that a bloody gutless wonder frog got a face full of fist, I don't care that Jeremy had, had an hour or two of grogging before he got back to find a cold feed.
I only care that he, Hamster and James are the only mix that works.
Consider this you lot, not one of the widely reported incidents had ever even gotten into the can( For you idiots, it had been filmed, but not edited) when it was edited, the bits we've all heard about, WEREN'T THERE!
How is it we came to see those bit's or hear what was being said?
Someone within the BBC wanted rid of Jeremy, and they tried very hard to discredit him and the lads.This someone/s did not even stop to consider the World Wide knock on effect, they've screwed the BBC out of it's most lucrative television show in decades.
Fuck THEM, come on lads get on tele somewhere else, I don't care where, I will watch you forever!
And there's more than enough like me out there to make sure you! survive and survive in style.
Gutless Frogs getting punched for not doing their job I can live with.
In house jokes ( as they were intended to be) I can live with.
Petty jealousy fucks me off.
Boycott the BBC, from here? yeah right!
Encourage three guys with some semblance of mate ship and pride in what they do, Oh Yeah!
Put up with whinging Poms who are supporting a fucking Frenchman? NEVA!
Bring on 'The Not Top Gear Show" and fuck over the BBC, yep.
Kickaha
6th May 2015, 20:00
Jodie Kidd - Meh - she was fast in the reasonably priced car, but not sure how well she would fit in.
She raced cars for several years until a crash and now does some classic racing stuff and already is a presenter on a car program, she'd fit in fine
Top gear?....Clarkson & the lads ARE top gear!
5th gear was a better program if you're into cars anyway, a bit more real world
Anyway, if Jodie Kidd's the token chick
She isn't a token anything
Someone within the BBC wanted rid of Jeremy, and they tried very hard to discredit him and the lads.
As one person put it... "the BBC. Fuck as many children as you want to, but punch one producer...".
As one person put it... "the BBC. Fuck as many children as you want to, but punch one producer...".
Haha!
Wonder who we could nominate from KB to replace the team?
Edbear, Katman and Fattmax? With who as the Stig?
pritch
6th May 2015, 23:10
Consider this you lot, not one of the widely reported incidents had ever even gotten into the can( For you idiots, it had been filmed, but not edited) when it was edited, the bits we've all heard about, WEREN'T THERE!
How is it we came to see those bit's or hear what was being said?
Someone within the BBC wanted rid of Jeremy, and they tried very hard to discredit him and the lads.
I'm not quite sure what you're saying here. The reporting in this country basically consisted of sensationalist headlines and bugger-all else, so it would have been hard to tell from any of that what had actually happened. Some of the British press eventually obtained a reasonably clear picture of events.
Apparently Clarkson arrived back at the hotel at about 9.00PM some four hours late having been drinking wine (Rose?) since the work for the day finished. The chef had gone home but had left "cold cuts". Clarkson reportedly then threw a major and prolonged foul-mouthed tanty because he couldn't have a steak, and this conniption included an assault on the producer. This all took place in front of other hotel guests, including a family group with kids. The adults in question were all doubtless chased up by reporters, and by the Police who later investigated the incident.
None of this is on film because filming had been over for hours, but there is no question that the incident took place as Clarkson himself eventually reported it to his boss. Neither is there much doubt that someone in the BBC wanted to get rid of him. That person was reportedly the very same boss that Clarkson reported the incident to. There was no need to discredit Clarkson though, he had done a thorough job of that himself.
The Executive Producer of Top Gear, an old school chum of Clarkson, has resigned his job at the BBC, so all the key Top Gear people are now free agents. We can presumably expect to see them together on screen sometime reasonably soon.
Banditbandit
7th May 2015, 15:22
I have no wish to appear unsympathetic. I was thinking though that the four hours drinking Clarkson was reportedly doing while he delayed the return filght of the helicopter to the hotel might have been more of a contributing factor. The chef got fed up waiting and went home, Clakson deservedly got a cold dinner.
I'm sure that if I had just been told I probably had cancer good chance I'd go out and get pissed too .., the FTW attitude would come straight to the fore ..
I don't blame the chef for not waiting ...
As I said - this might explain things .. but not excuse things ... do you see the difference between an explanation and an excuse ???
jasonu
7th May 2015, 16:11
TG was past its best. The last couple of years were smattered with rehashes of old ideas and 'Best of' shows. The whole punch up thing is IMO likely a good way to finish a good thing before it went totally stale.
TG was past its best.
How much of that was caused by the bbc and their stupid regulations? OSH and the stupidity they arrive with, will have shut down a large percent of ideas that would have been great (and achievable) on another network.
pritch
7th May 2015, 16:44
do you see the difference between an explanation and an excuse ???
I'm fine with that, I wasn't arguing, I just see it differently. Most people don't go round punching people in the mouth when they get that diagnosis.
From where I sit it just looks like Clarkson can't hold his piss and should probably quit drinking. He might be better advised to consult Akzle about a supply of the electric puha? :whistle:
I don't expect everyone will agree with that, but that's OK, we're all different.
jasonu
7th May 2015, 17:14
How much of that was caused by the bbc and their stupid regulations? OSH and the stupidity they arrive with, will have shut down a large percent of ideas that would have been great (and achievable) on another network.
Or maybe they had simply run short of good ideas.
Don't get me wrong, the show was kick arse for many years and I watched it religiously. But lately ie the last 2-3 years it had developed a slightly been there done that smell.
awayatc
7th May 2015, 18:28
Everything has an end
when it makes shitloads of money,
That end gets puts off a bit.....
however, top gear is history
finally. ....
willytheekid
8th May 2015, 12:26
http://www.stuff.co.nz/motoring/shows/68381043/extop-gear-hosts-linked-to-new-rival-show
Fuck yeah!:Punk:...hehe:shifty:...BBC are gonna get there arse's handed too them when it comes to ratings :laugh:
Swoop
2nd June 2015, 11:51
Comrade Ivan Petrov Clarkson, TV Presenter of Russian military! Da!
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/russia/11497681/Russian-army-TV-channel-invites-Jeremy-Clarkson-to-present-motoring-show.html
Virago
30th June 2015, 12:46
I see that the "last episode" has been released. Basically two "challenges" sewn together in one 75 minute episode, with nothing else. While Clarkson appeared in the challenges, only May and Hammond made the brief TG set appearances.
Swoop
30th June 2015, 13:54
I see that the "last episode" has been released. Basically two "challenges" sewn together in one 75 minute episode, with nothing else. While Clarkson appeared in the challenges, only May and Hammond made the brief TG set appearances.
Jeremy was "in the room" though...;)
James Deuce
30th June 2015, 14:33
Watched it last night. A bit sad on many, many levels.
Out with a bit of a whimper really.
In my opinion, Clarkson still owns the show. Let's go to The Bard for the Final Take:
King Duncan:
Is execution done on Cawdor? Are not
Those in commission yet return'd?
Malcolm:
My liege,
They are not yet come back. But I have spoke
With one that saw him die; who did report
That very frankly he confessed his treasons,
Implor'd your Highness' pardon, and set forth
A deep repentance. Nothing in his life
Became him like the leaving it.
Macbeth Act 1, scene 4, 1–8
Well done Mr Clarkson.
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