Gene pool

[mashman]

See it is your concern because you were concerned enough to defend him about it previously.
As for the other like I have repeatedly said have a look at the evidence that made you question it occured, as it doesn't stand up to any scrutiny at all.
Why is it you are unwilling to do so?
What is it that prevents you looking, pride?

See, my concern is not what you say it is. I also "defended" him above when I said "I don't believe that he believes that every Jew is a bad guy. He's smarter than that.".
I'm not unwilling to do so. I'm happy to accept that you have seen evidence to the contrary. What are you expecting me to answer with? Come on. Don't be shy. Spit it out.

[husaberg]

See, my concern is not what you say it is. I also "defended" him above when I said "I don't believe that he believes that every Jew is a bad guy. He's smarter than that.".
I'm not unwilling to do so. I'm happy to accept that you have seen evidence to the contrary. What are you expecting me to answer with? Come on. Don't be shy. Spit it out.

If I did it could be construed as being biased, so have a look yourself see what you find when you actually look into the evidence that debunks the blue dye.
it is all very easy to find.
Have a look for the IBM census data and what it was for.

As for Axel The shit that he spews out is exactly the same as was spewed out its word for word 60 years ago.
Its is very clearly anti semetic
At least Oldie is able to separate it out.
His continued use of the words aptly illustrates his true intent.
Are you unable or unwilling to see how what he says parallels the German and ford sanctioned propaganda.

[mashman]

If I did it could be construed as being biased, so have a look yourself see what you find when you actually look into the evidence that debunks the blue dye.
it is all very easy to find.

As for Axel The shit that he spews out is exactly the same as was spewed out its word for word 60 years ago.
At least Oldie is able to separate it out.
His continued use of the words aptly illustrates his true intent.
Are you unable or unwilling to see how what he says parallels the German and ford sanctioned propaganda.

As I said, I'm happy to take your word for it existing. What do you really want to hear husa? Come on.

In see that he feels very strongly about something that you know little to nothing about. I chose to look for myself.
The German and Ford propaganda was just that. There have been much "smarter" men using the same toolset throughout history. Why should I buy any of it 100%?

[Katman]

To me whether 1 million or 4 or 6 million is largely irrelevant as it is a huge number of innocent people that died as a result of the same crap that axel spews out regularly.


Do you give a fuck about the Armenian genocide?

[scumdog]

Do you give a fuck about the Armenian genocide?
4 million Armenians were killed??:blink:

[Gadget1]

Thinking isn't your strong point. Perhaps you could explain where you think the confusion was, like by helping me understand that the answer to the question of why is met with another question that infers something about me being from overseas having something to do with it. :yawn:

Lol, not being able to answer a queston without a stupid response isn't your strong point. I was just wanting to clarify what appeared to be an apple and pears issue.

How's that marvellous NOW system working out for ya by the way? It's certainly been a while...

[husaberg]

Do you give a fuck about the Armenian genocide?

I don't recall anyone bringing it up until now
Does axel or anyone on KB constantly spewing forth rants about the Turks or Armenians.
Or blame them for all the worlds problems.
Never seen it myself have you.


4 million Armenians were killed??:blink:

There was a bloody lot it was one of the least covered ethnic atrocities of WW2
Seen a doco about it the other day there was a series on them on the history channel

[mashman]

Lol, not being able to answer a queston without a stupid response isn't your strong point. I was just wanting to clarify what appeared to be an apple and pears issue.

How's that marvellous NOW system working out for ya by the way? It's certainly been a while...

You started it. Go ahead, clarify it then. Like drawing blood from a stone.

They can't get a financial system right after 40,000 years and you want NOW now ;). Impatient fuck. It's working well thank you.

[Katman]

4 million Armenians were killed??:blink:

About 1 million.

What's your point?

[Katman]

There was a bloody lot it was one of the least covered ethnic atrocities of WW2


Check your dates.

[husaberg]

As I said, I'm happy to take your word for it existing. What do you really want to hear husa? Come on.

In see that he feels very strongly about something that you know little to nothing about. I chose to look for myself.
The German and Ford propaganda was just that. There have been much "smarter" men using the same toolset throughout history. Why should I buy any of it 100%?
SO you also know what I know about now?
Not only that you know more than me?
Even axel does as well?
Sounds pretty condescending coming from someone who will not do a bit of research into a something when they are challenged on what they asserted.

Most anti semites feel strongly about their position Axel is just too gutless to admit that is what he is.
re the propaganda Because it is the exact same rhetoric that Axels spews out now.
Are you unable or unwilling to see that for what it is.

Why is it you are so able to make a judgement based on some blue dye made by someone proven to be a fraud, yet unable and unwilling to look into it further.

[scumdog]

About 1 million.

What's your point?


There IS no point - I learnt that approach from a lot of your posts....

[husaberg]

Check your dates.

too true the turks should have been a memory jogger
Doesn't answer my questions to you though, just kind of avoids them.
Was that what you were aiming for?


I don't recall anyone bringing it up until now
Does axel or anyone on KB constantly spewing forth rants about the Turks or Armenians.
Or blame them for all the worlds problems.
Never seen it myself have you.



There was a bloody lot it was one of the least covered ethnic atrocities of WW1
Seen a doco about it the other day there was a series on them on the history channel

[mashman]

SO you also know what I know about now?
Not only that you know more than me?
Even axel does as well?
Sounds pretty condescending coming from someone who will not do a bit of research into a something when they are challenged on what they asserted.

Most anti semites feel strongly about their position Axel is just too gutless to admit that is what he is.
re the propaganda Because it is the exact same rhetoric that Axels spews out now.
Are you unable or unwilling to see that for what it is.

Why is it you are so able to make a judgement based on some blue dye made by someone proven to be a fraud, yet unable and unwilling to look into it further.

Fair point. But as you've almost consistently dismissed that which he spouts as nothing more than anti-semitic, it's a fair assumption.
Absolutely.
Without question.
I accepted your outcome, ergo no need to challenge. You didn't pick that up?

I agree in regards to anti-semites, and really? You want me to post up his flat denial with your responding that he is, again?
It's probably similar.
Subjective.
I accepted your outcome, ergo no need to challenge. You didn't pick that up?

[husaberg]

Fair point. But as you've almost consistently dismissed that which he spouts as nothing more than anti-semitic, it's a fair assumption.
Absolutely.
Without question.
I accepted your outcome, ergo no need to challenge. You didn't pick that up?

I agree in regards to anti-semites, and really? You want me to post up his flat denial with your responding that he is, again?
It's probably similar.
Subjective.
I accepted your outcome, ergo no need to challenge. You didn't pick that up?

No I have showed what he posts is anti-Semitic.
If he wanted to it be seen as not being so he would have picked up ages ago that using the word Jew to describe what he does regardless of a capital J or spelling it with a G is.
I am sure he thinks he has a good reason to tar an entire race with the deeds of a few.
It does not change what he does. Which is anti-semitic
What outcome?


As I said, I'm happy to take your word for it existing. What do you really want to hear husa? Come on.

In see that he feels very strongly about something that you know little to nothing about. I chose to look for myself.
The German and Ford propaganda was just that. There have been much "smarter" men using the same toolset throughout history. Why should I buy any of it 100%?

If you are meaning what I want to hear is what you found yourself when you looked for yourself.
it would take a few minutes at most.

[mashman]

No I have showed what he posts is anti-Semitic.
If he wanted to it be seen as not being so he would have picked up ages ago that using the word Jew to describe what he does regardless of a capital J or spelling it with a G is.
I am sure he thinks he has a good reason to tar an entire race with the deeds of a few.
It does not change what he does. Which is anti-semitic
What outcome?

If you are meaning what I want to hear is what you found yourself when you looked for yourself.
it would take a few minutes at most.

Ooooo, a bridge.

[husaberg]

Ooooo, a bridge.

Bridge usually have troll under them in fantasy land
It is a challenge to you to look for yourself, are you a afraid to look?

[mashman]

Bridge usually have troll under them in fantasy land
It is a challenge to you to look for yourself, are you a afraid to look?

Or rainbow ponies. Maybe I hang out in better fantasies ;).
It isn't a challenge that I have set myself, so it isn't a challenge. And what is the outcome you wish me to portray once I have looked? Coz i can deliver it to you word for word.

[Gadget1]

They can't get a financial system right after 40,000 years and you want NOW now ;). Impatient fuck. It's working well thank you.

It's working well? Maybe in your head.

[mashman]

It's working well? Maybe in your head.

I see it taking shape around the globe, so no, not all of it.

[husaberg]

Or rainbow ponies. Maybe I hang out in better fantasies ;).
It isn't a challenge that I have set myself, so it isn't a challenge. And what is the outcome you wish me to portray once I have looked? Coz i can deliver it to you word for word.

Socrates.......could but I feel we should keep it platonic...........

[Gadget1]

I see it taking shape around the globe, so no, not all of it.

The NOW system you put your name to on here? TUI!!!

[mashman]

Socrates.......could but I feel we should keep it platonic...........

I bare no ill will. You are entitled to your opinion of anyone you choose. If I agree, we'll pretend that the stars aligned or some such thing :eek: you won't be guilty by association then ;).

[mashman]

The NOW system you put your name to on here? TUI!!!

Oh you're going to have to do better than that. Much of what I see NOW achieving is already being achieved by others. It was inevitable. And it has been a long time coming. It may take a few more years yet, but it'll happen a damned sight faster than 40,000 years.

[5ive]

Man you guys are really into this thread!

Nothing to do with the topic, but congrats anyway!

[Akzle]

Man you guys are really into this thread!

Nothing to do with the topic, but congrats anyway!

im wondering how many minutes in a day husa isnt thinking about me.
Certainly seems he cant go a day without mentioning me.
What a fucken armenian.

[Maha]

im wondering how many minutes in a day husa isnt thinking about me.
Certainly seems he cant go a day without mentioning me.
What a fucken armenian.

Your narcissistic thought pattern is becoming more evident with every post you make.

[Akzle]

You narcissistic thought pattern is becoming more evident with every post you make.

youre such an armenian

[Maha]

youre such an armenian

You're such an Armenian, it's more legible this way.

Who's smarter, you or your phone?

[Gadget1]

Oh you're going to have to do better than that. Much of what I see NOW achieving is already being achieved by others.

Yep, it certainly does look as though you've just plagiarised the work of Jacque Fresco.

[mashman]

Yep, it certainly does look as though you've just plagiarised the work of Jacque Fresco.

To the uneducated eye I can see why it would look that way. And I reckon he'd be happier to see me talking about it than not.

[Gadget1]

To the uneducated eye I can see why it would look that way. And I reckon he'd be happier to see me talking about it than not.


Lol, ethically though? Yep, all you do is "talk " about it, it doesn't go anywhere.

[mashman]

Lol, ethically though? Yep, all you do is "talk " about it, it doesn't go anywhere.

Yes ethically. I know, it must be really frustrating for you. I'll make a mental note to speed things up, just for you :love:

[Gadget1]

Yes ethically. I know, it must be really frustrating for you. I'll make a mental note to speed things up, just for you :love:


Luckily for you plagiarism isn't a crime then. Please don't speed things up for me, I wouldn't want you to have to actually do something.

Why didn't you just post a link about Jacque Fresco in the first place? It would have saved all these years of typing and "talking".

[mashman]

Luckily for you plagiarism isn't a crime then. Please don't speed things up for me, I wouldn't want you to have to actually do something.

Why didn't you just post a link about Jacque Fresco in the first place? It would have saved all these years of typing and "talking".

lol... thanks.

Ironically enough it was someone on KB that pointed me in the direction of TVP. You should find him and blame him. But, some things are worth pointing out.

[bogan]

Yep, it certainly does look as though you've just plagiarised the work of Jacque Fresco.

Bastardised more like, has he started threatening you with theft, beatings, and executions yet?

[Madness]

You're such an Armenian, it's more legible this way.

Who's smarter, you or your phone?

Thick cunts, huh?


You narcissistic thought pattern is becoming more evident with every post you make.

:facepalm:

[Gadget1]

Bastardised more like, has he started threatening you with theft, beatings, and executions yet?


No threats, but they're probably not far off. Interestingly enough, I did ask if he was related to a German family named Goebbels earlier on in this thread though...

[Maha]

No threats, but they're probably not far off. Interestingly enough, I did ask if he was related to a German family named Goebbels earlier on in this thread though...

I wouldn't gift too much time to any online threats, especially on here, those that do offer up a threat, have the personality of vaginal warts.

[bogan]

No threats, but they're probably not far off. Interestingly enough, I did ask if he was related to a German family named Goebbels earlier on in this thread though...

Well, you gotta get especially under his skin for those, more common is the 'you misunderstand', or hisotrically, 'the people will decide how it will work' (as long as they don't decide on anything with money ofc).


personality of vaginal warts.

Have you got personal with a few?

[husaberg]

Well, you gotta get especially under his skin for those, more common is the 'you misunderstand', or hisotrically, 'the people will decide how it will work' (as long as they don't decide on anything with money ofc).



?

I so enjoy receiving the ones with Hilter was right and how they would like to rape my children.
That's when you know that the narcissistic charade is really getting challenged.

IE constructs a narrative in which he figures as the hero - brilliant, perfect, irresistibly handsome, destined for great things, entitled, powerful, wealthy, the centre of attention, etc.
The bigger the strain on this delusional charade - the greater the gap between fantasy and reality - the more the delusion coalesces and solidifies.

[Zedder]

Well, you gotta get especially under his skin for those, more common is the 'you misunderstand', or hisotrically, 'the people will decide how it will work' (as long as they don't decide on anything with money ofc).

Yep, that's exactly why I got put off too bogan.

[Zedder]

I so enjoy receiving the ones with Hilter was right and how they would like to rape my children.
That's when you know that the narcissistic charade is really getting challenged.

IE constructs a narrative in which he figures as the hero - brilliant, perfect, irresistibly handsome, destined for great things, entitled, powerful, wealthy, the centre of attention, etc.
The bigger the strain on this delusional charade - the greater the gap between fantasy and reality - the more the delusion coalesces and solidifies.

I can fully understand Axhole doing that shit but are you writing mashman does that? Although, after reading bogan's earlier post it's a distinct possibility mashman does it too.

[bogan]

I can fully understand Axhole doing that shit but are you writing mashman does that? Although, after reading bogan's earlier post it's a distinct possibility mashman does it too.

Nah mashy's threats are more hypothetical, ie; in my wonderful moneyless system I will murder any dissenters like you as they sleep and steal their property.

Mind you, I have them both on ignore so the rep doesn't show for me.

[husaberg]

I can fully understand Axhole doing that shit but are you writing mashman does that? Although, after reading bogan's earlier post it's a distinct possibility mashman does it too.

No definitely not Mashy, there are a few others here that do the same though. Not Just Axole either.

in a similar vein, Congressman Glenn Anderson, in his April 24, 1984, remarks, discussed the inclusion of the Armenians in the planned Holocaust Memorial Council, established by an act of Congress in 1980, has unanimously resolved to include the Armenian genocide in its museums and education programs.

http://worldvoices.pen.org/nonfiction/professional-ethics-and-denial-armenian-genocide


im wondering how many minutes in a day husa isnt thinking about me.
Certainly seems he cant go a day without mentioning me.
What a fucken armenian.


youre such an armenian

Katman thought by bringing it up I would be drawn into the Famous Hitler quote relating to "who remembers the Armaniens"
attributed to how he was able to complete the genocide of the polish population
Maybe he was unaware that I know this quote has been largely discredited.


Hate speech is a communication that carries no meaning other than the expression of hatred for some group, especially in circumstances in which the communication is likely to provoke violence. It is an incitement to hatred primarily against a group of persons defined in terms of race, ethnicity, national origin, gender, religion, sexual orientation, and the like. Hate speech can be any form of expression regarded as offensive to racial, ethnic and religious groups and other discrete minorities or to women.


More poles were killed than joos, too. But hey. Inconvinient facts.

I think you will find that most of the Jewish that were killed in Poland also were Poles.
Odd that you don't consider this.
You will also find none of the bodies are clearly identified as being Jewish, either likely because it is irrelevant what nationality they are.
311915311916
Yet you readily leap up and attempt to use it as an opportunity to defend and minimise what occurred.
All the civilians be they Russian, Poles, Slavs, Gypsies, dwarves, the handicapped, homosexuals, Jehovah's Witnesses, deaf and blind persons, chronic alcoholics, drug users
That were executed or died through malnourishment forced labour or disease I am sure found it very inconvenient.
Untermensch
This concept included Jews, Roma and Sinti (Gypsies), non-Europeans, and Slavic peoples such as Poles, Serbs, Russians, Czechs, and Slovaks
Nazi propaganda in October 1939 told Germans to view all ethnic Poles, Gypsies (Romani) and Jews on the same level as Untermenschen.
The exact same reasons for the elimination of the Jews they gave then. Are coincidently exactly what that you spew forth so readily now.
Some examples of how lacking in any form or originality your views really are.


well, considering that wasnt even the worst Holocaust (tm)
(no,like, seriously, actually, jews copyrighted that shit so no other slaughtered or opressed peoples can use that word) but yeah. Pale folk have been a raping others for fuken days.

hey! Thats racist yo! jews is the most opressed poorest boofuckinghoo race around man, you should feel sorry for them, or youre antisemitic!

butthurt jews! Liek omgwtflol!!
its totally like 1938 yo! Fuck, fire up the trains. Im Sick of the bullshit.

. *kill all the jew cunts .



Hitler's infamous speech to the Reichstag on January 30, 1939: “If international Jewish financiers inside and outside Europe should succeed in plunging the nations once more into a world war then the result will not be the…victory of Jewry but the annihilation of the Jewish race in Europe.”
Hitler presented the Jews as behind all of Germany's moral and economic problems

jews!
Crime pays. Just not the average schmuck. Now, wonder what would happen to crime if jews and their jewgold were removed from the equation....
He blamed "money-grubbing Jews" for all of Germany's economic problems

which dumbass expects that?
well, yes. he probably is. on account of being a rich white weasely jew fuck, asides anything else.
.
Anti-capitalist propaganda, touching on usury, would use anti-semitic elements from the association of Jews with money-lenders.

i'm not going to bother reading shit. tis the KB way.
but are you talking about "muskarah lending"?if yes, then fuck jews. if not, also fuck jews. cos they're still dicks. global enslavement and blah blah blah. (are the old whiteys asleep yet? best way for em.
Exploiting pre-existing images and stereotypes, Nazi propagandists portrayed Jews as an “alien race” that fed off the host nation, poisoned its culture, seized its economy, and enslaved its workers and farmers.
Jews were attacked as the embodiment of capitalism "interest slavery", used the association of Jews with money-lenders

jews (israel) taxes palestinians.... Does not provide services. Most days of the week this is called theft.Oh yeah, its cos teh jews dont want to be held to account under international lore.Lulz!
Jews were depicted as have undue representation in the professions such as laywers doctors Journalists and bankers

i dont do jewtubes, but id be sad if one of those was not NWA's fuck the police.
America’s entry into the war given that the Jews were behind it.

lmfao! rbjiafp! meanwhile,, off trots john to their (JSA) latest war!
well, not john, obviously, he's far too rich and white and Jewish and a fucken sneaky jew cunt, for that kind of carry on, but we'll send the plebs!
i'd love to see america rising. be fucken interesting see what happens instead of the current BS.

you've got that one the wrong way 'round there crackerfulla.
the israel owns the jew S of A. the jew S of A is the literal cash cow, farming citizens for jewgolds.
but shhhhhhh. it's a conspiracy mann!
Hitler declared America as a "mongrel nation", grown too rich too soon and governed by a capitalist elite with strong ties to the Jews.


yurp jews invented israel.
israel OWNS america, so it's not 'support' as such, rather, jews collecting the cash from the cash-cow-of-a. billions. (that's 1, 000, 000, 000, 0000 dollars, more than most of you old white fucks will handle in your entire life) annually, in "aid" to say nothing of weapons contracts.. cue "nuke them from orbit"

errr.... cos jews.
the grandest fucking ironing being, that after the 40s jewathon, they bought all the "bad guys". literally, bought and paid for them to come to america, dropping charges and protecting them from criminal persecution, to work for the US government... funded/owned by....jews!

whut chu talkin 'bout willis, all gews :heart: israel. that's part of being a gew.
the yurpgews (ironically the ones that also started the jewnited nations, or league of nations, as it was, but that name can't be jewenated.) made up gewland and started hating on the cameljockeys. everyone involved is just jacking the others off, proved time and again. they also made up americaland, so have had their hooks in from the git go.
as far as israel "owning" 'murca there's info out there, i heard the other day that blackarse was going to give them 300 bajillion of americunt monies or some shit to bomb some more kindergartens in the un(jew)occupied parts of palestineland. fun times!
Propaganda against Great Britain as a plutocracy also led to increased emphasis on anti-semitism, describing Jews as being behind both

jesus, you did get some, didnt ya. Ive explained my position. If youre unclear on it. Your problem. And no. The middle east was going good. Until Jews.
Prior to the invasion of Poland, a major anti-Polish campaign was launched, asserting such claims as forced labor of ethnic Germans, persecution of them, Polish disorder, Poles provoking border incidents, and aggressive intentions from its government.Newspapers wrote copiously on depicted Polish ethnic Germans as deeply persecuted and the invasion as necessary to protect them


as for palestinians getting financial backing from anyone.. fuck it, mostly what they want is not to be bombed in their sleep, to have a better than 50/50 chance their children will come home from school, to not have to have assault rifles loaded behind their doors.
it is people, under modern day oppression, not by their own government, but by a fascist dictatorial regime that has NO FUCKING RIGHT to exist, let alone enforce their racist bullshit against a 'disadvantaged' population. cue "nuke them from orbit"
The Reichstag fire was attributed to a Jewish conspiracy.

unfortunately, the towers WERE designed to withstand MULTIPLE impacts from aircraft. funny that. fortunately, all the jews decided not to turn up for work that day (true story)

yeah, interesting he would have had to fork out hundreds of millions for asbestos removal to ring the buildings up to code. not to worry though, the tens of billions of dollars worth of "terrorist insurance" ( i shit you not) he took out the previous month was just in time!

was your argument not 'terrorist had planned something like it, so it must have been terrorists'?
Yeah, like this. and then you were all like 'usa is dicks so obviously arab cunts are going to go halfway round the world to fuck their day up'srsly, who goes to the other side of the planet to enforce their own domestic racist/jew/imf policy???
Instructions for propaganda speakers directed them to claim that anti-semitism was rising throughout the world.

butthurt jews! Liek omgwtflol!!
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2701365/Anti-Semitic-attacks-rise-Europe-German-French-Italian-foreign-ministers-condemn-growing-hostility-against-Jews-wake-Gaza-conflict.html
.
http://research.calvin.edu/german-propaganda-archive/responses.htm
http://www.ushmm.org/wlc/en/article.php?ModuleId=10005274
http://www.holocaustresearchproject.org/holoprelude/nazprop.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Themes_in_Nazi_propaganda


No. Capital. J. The rest is entirely up to you.
I am making my own mind up based on what I know tyvm.
They possibly see racism as some form of fag movement.
Good luck with that :niceone:.

Oh the spelling rather than the words the context or the actual meaning.
Enlighten us all. how none of this is anti-sematic because it has a small J.



Anti Semite
religious (Jew as Christ-killer),
economic (Jew as banker, usurer, money-obsessed),
social (Jew as social inferior, "pushy," vulgar, therefore excluded from personal contact),
racist (Jews as an inferior "race"),
ideological (Jews regarded as subversive or revolutionary),
cultural (Jews regarded as undermining the moral and structural fiber of civilization).


i dont do jewtubes, but id be sad if one of those was not NWA's fuck the police.


i'm not going to bother reading shit. tis the KB way.
but are you talking about "muskarah lending"?
if yes, then fuck jews.
if not, also fuck jews. cos they're still dicks. global enslavement and blah blah blah. (are the old whiteys asleep yet? best way for em.


jews!
Crime pays. Just not the average schmuck.
Now, wonder what would happen to crime if jews and their jewgold were removed from the equation....


which dumbass expects that?
well, yes. he probably is.
on account of being a rich white weasely jew fuck, asides anything else.
where's greg hallet when you need him.


errr.... cos jews.
the grandest fucking ironing being, that after the 40s jewathon, they bought all the "bad guys". literally, bought and paid for them to come to america, dropping charges and protecting them from criminal persecution, to work for the US government... funded/owned by....jews!


well, considering that wasnt even the worst Holocaust (tm)
(no,like, seriously, actually, jews copyrighted that shit so no other slaughtered or opressed peoples can use that word)
but yeah. Pale folk have been a raping others for fuken days.


Unfortunately the rest of the world simplistically believes it is all because Hammas fires rockets at Israel ... so why don't they just stop?
They fire the rockets and throw the stones because that is all they have left to protest with FFS!
Gaza Palestinians are totally oppressed by brutal Israeli occupation forces and Israeli settlers .. every bit as bad or worse than Nazi Germany!
If they stop firing rockets and throwing stones nothing changes for the Palestinians ... it only makes things more comfortable for Israel.
It's time for the world to wake up and get real about this situation. :yes:

. *kill all the jew cunts .


jesus, you did get some, didnt ya.
Ive explained my position. If youre unclear on it. Your problem.
And no. The middle east was going good. Until Jews.

jews (israel) taxes palestinians.... Does not provide services.
Most days of the week this is called theft.
Oh yeah, its cos teh jews dont want to be held to account under international lore.
Lulz!

hey! Thats racist yo! jews is the most opressed poorest boofuckinghoo race around man, you should feel sorry for them, or youre antisemitic!

you've got that one the wrong way 'round there crackerfulla.
the israel owns the jew S of A. the jew S of A is the literal cash cow, farming citizens for jewgolds.
but shhhhhhh. it's a conspiracy mann!


whut chu talkin 'bout willis, all gews :heart: israel. that's part of being a gew.
the yurpgews (ironically the ones that also started the jewnited nations, or league of nations, as it was, but that name can't be jewenated.) made up gewland and started hating on the cameljockeys. everyone involved is just jacking the others off, proved time and again. they also made up americaland, so have had their hooks in from the git go.

as far as israel "owning" 'murca there's info out there, i heard the other day that blackarse was going to give them 300 bajillion of americunt monies or some shit to bomb some more kindergartens in the un(jew)occupied parts of palestineland. fun times!

butthurt jews! Liek omgwtflol!!
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2701365/Anti-Semitic-attacks-rise-Europe-German-French-Italian-foreign-ministers-condemn-growing-hostility-against-Jews-wake-Gaza-conflict.html
its totally like 1938 yo!
Fuck, fire up the trains. Im Sick of the bullshit.


i love the tree of life... fuck the kaballah, that sounds like some jew tomfuckery, and i'm not down with jew tomfuckery.
( have a really, really awesome (poster size) image of the tree of life, can't fucken upload it though. google that shit.)

thought my tree of life was some tarot shit, but i see now it has jew shit on it. unteresting...



insurance=money=jew shit.
so yes. it was. (read up on the jew that took out terrorist insurance on the TTs, and how the courts screwed him by only paying out 4 billion more than the towers were worth (he wanted five billion :crybaby:)- they were also full of asbestos which co$ts to remove...and how 90% of jews conviniently took the day off, that day.

you also dont address the 5 billion dollar jew-spiracy


sorry to disapoint you, grand zionist cyclops Ed.
i have read a fair bit, for and against, unforunately the "there's no conspiracy" camp are sadly lacking in anything that i can believe....[/COLOR]
jews dude. jews. hilariously and ironically, the airport security from both planes, and the tower security, were he same jew-company.
jews don't like muslims, so if you can make people hate muslims more than jews, you get to keep selling them shit. and that's profitable, which, at the end of the day, if what it's about. money.
it's pretty un-PC to hate jews in the west, while muslim hate is encouraged by propoganda and ignorance (anyone tell me what "jihad" means?)
aha! scummy was in on it!
a jew and a pig... all hail a society that gives people like him guns...
and still no takers to answer the 5 billion dollar terrorist insurance a month prior eh...
or why the jews didn't turn up for work that day.


jews i tells ya.

was your argument not 'terrorist had planned something like it, so it must have been terrorists'?
Yeah, like this. and then you were all like 'usa is dicks so obviously arab cunts are going to go halfway round the world to fuck their day up' srsly, who goes to the other side of the planet to enforce their own domestic racist/jew/imf policy???


by definition thats impossible. Thats like saying ill find you a hat that isnt a hat.
It is what it is because thats what it is.
Tautology, round two.

Get it in ya:
jew ≠ Jewish people.

(consider also that your rabid anti-anti-semitism has been formed in a non muslim country by being immersed in media thats 99% owned by jews. Jewish jews, that is.)

[Zedder]

Nah mashy's threats are more hypothetical, ie; in my wonderful moneyless system I will murder any dissenters like you as they sleep and steal their property.

Mind you, I have them both on ignore so the rep doesn't show for me.

Heh, so just minor shit then. The lovely NOW utopia...

[Maha]

Have you got personal with a few?

Didn't know they existed until October 20th 2005.

[Akzle]

Who's smarter, you or your phone?

for most thinking adults thats not even a consideration, but i can see how youd be confuzzled.


Easily, that is.

[Akzle]

I wouldn't gift too much time to any online threats, especially on here, those that do offer up a threat, have the personality of vaginal warts.

remember that time your wife threatened to slap me?


...just sayin

[Akzle]

No definitely not Mashy, there are a few others here that do the same though. Not Just Axole either.

in a similar vein, Congressman Glenn Anderson, in his April 24, 1984, remarks, discussed the inclusion of the Armenians in the planned Holocaust Memorial Council, established by an act of Congress in 1980, has unanimously resolved to include the Armenian genocide in its museums and education programs.

http://worldvoices.pen.org/nonfiction/professional-ethics-and-denial-armenian-genocide





Katman thought by bringing it up I would be drawn into the Famous Hitler quote relating to "who remembers the Armaniens"
attributed to how he was able to complete the genocide of the polish population
Maybe he was unaware that I know this quote has been largely discredited.





I think you will find that most of the Jewish that were killed in Poland also were Poles.
Odd that you don't consider this.
You will also find none of the bodies are clearly identified as being Jewish, either likely because it is irrelevant what nationality they are.
311915311916
Yet you readily leap up and attempt to use it as an opportunity to defend and minimise what occurred.
All the civilians be they Russian, Poles, Slavs, Gypsies, dwarves, the handicapped, homosexuals, Jehovah's Witnesses, deaf and blind persons, chronic alcoholics, drug users
That were executed or died through malnourishment forced labour or disease I am sure found it very inconvenient.
Untermensch
This concept included Jews, Roma and Sinti (Gypsies), non-Europeans, and Slavic peoples such as Poles, Serbs, Russians, Czechs, and Slovaks
Nazi propaganda in October 1939 told Germans to view all ethnic Poles, Gypsies (Romani) and Jews on the same level as Untermenschen.
The exact same reasons for the elimination of the Jews they gave then. Are coincidently exactly what that you spew forth so readily now.
Some examples of how lacking in any form or originality your views really are.








Hitler's infamous speech to the Reichstag on January 30, 1939: “If international Jewish financiers inside and outside Europe should succeed in plunging the nations once more into a world war then the result will not be the…victory of Jewry but the annihilation of the Jewish race in Europe.”
Hitler presented the Jews as behind all of Germany's moral and economic problems

He blamed "money-grubbing Jews" for all of Germany's economic problems

Anti-capitalist propaganda, touching on usury, would use anti-semitic elements from the association of Jews with money-lenders.

Exploiting pre-existing images and stereotypes, Nazi propagandists portrayed Jews as an “alien race” that fed off the host nation, poisoned its culture, seized its economy, and enslaved its workers and farmers.
Jews were attacked as the embodiment of capitalism "interest slavery", used the association of Jews with money-lenders

Jews were depicted as have undue representation in the professions such as laywers doctors Journalists and bankers

America’s entry into the war given that the Jews were behind it.


Hitler declared America as a "mongrel nation", grown too rich too soon and governed by a capitalist elite with strong ties to the Jews.



Propaganda against Great Britain as a plutocracy also led to increased emphasis on anti-semitism, describing Jews as being behind both

Prior to the invasion of Poland, a major anti-Polish campaign was launched, asserting such claims as forced labor of ethnic Germans, persecution of them, Polish disorder, Poles provoking border incidents, and aggressive intentions from its government.Newspapers wrote copiously on depicted Polish ethnic Germans as deeply persecuted and the invasion as necessary to protect them

The Reichstag fire was attributed to a Jewish conspiracy.



Instructions for propaganda speakers directed them to claim that anti-semitism was rising throughout the world.

http://research.calvin.edu/german-propaganda-archive/responses.htm
http://www.ushmm.org/wlc/en/article.php?ModuleId=10005274
http://www.holocaustresearchproject.org/holoprelude/nazprop.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Themes_in_Nazi_propaganda



Oh the spelling rather than the words the context or the actual meaning.
Enlighten us all. how none of this is anti-sematic because it has a small J.

http://www.loading4life.com/truebluestables/graphics/O4.jpg

[Akzle]

blahfukenblah

http://www.loading4life.com/truebluestables/graphics/O4.jpg

[Maha]

remember that time your wife threatened to slap me?


...just sayin

No I don't, but oh she would do that no question, another tosser (not unlike yourself) once asked her in person, ''now that you have met me,what do you think of me''? to his face and with his wife by his side the answer was swift.. ''you're a wanker'' and the best he come up with in such short notice and reddish face was ''well you're a lesbian'' he laughed at himself and so everyone else at the table. Poor poor disillusioned halfwit.

Please don't confuse a threat with a promise.

[Gadget1]

Didn't know they existed until October 20th 2005.

Think I read about that.

Some dole bludger up north living in a caravan who had a clapped out Suzi 750 and Mitsi Magna was patient zero apparently.

[mashman]

Well, you gotta get especially under his skin for those, more common is the 'you misunderstand', or hisotrically, 'the people will decide how it will work' (as long as they don't decide on anything with money ofc).

Those left.

My fave to date:



am not sure what the RBE stand for one assumes Really big event ?



So, you don't understand it either then?

:killingme.

[husaberg]

pic of axel stumped threatening to log off



Hate speech is a communication that carries no meaning other than the expression of hatred for some group, especially in circumstances in which the communication is likely to provoke violence. It is an incitement to hatred primarily against a group of persons defined in terms of race, ethnicity, national origin, gender, religion, sexual orientation, and the like. Hate speech can be any form of expression regarded as offensive to racial, ethnic and religious groups and other discrete minorities or to women.


More poles were killed than joos, too. But hey. Inconvinient facts.

I think you will find that most of the Jewish that were killed in Poland also were Poles.
Odd that you don't consider this.
You will also find none of the bodies are clearly identified as being Jewish, either likely because it is irrelevant what nationality they are.
311915311916
Yet you readily leap up and attempt to use it as an opportunity to defend and minimise what occurred.
All the civilians be they Russian, Poles, Slavs, Gypsies, dwarves, the handicapped, homosexuals, Jehovah's Witnesses, deaf and blind persons, chronic alcoholics, drug users
That were executed or died through malnourishment forced labour or disease I am sure found it very inconvenient.
Untermensch
This concept included Jews, Roma and Sinti (Gypsies), non-Europeans, and Slavic peoples such as Poles, Serbs, Russians, Czechs, and Slovaks
Nazi propaganda in October 1939 told Germans to view all ethnic Poles, Gypsies (Romani) and Jews on the same level as Untermenschen.
The exact same reasons for the elimination of the Jews they gave then. Are coincidently exactly what that you spew forth so readily now.
Some examples of how lacking in any form or originality your views really are.


well, considering that wasnt even the worst Holocaust (tm)
(no,like, seriously, actually, jews copyrighted that shit so no other slaughtered or opressed peoples can use that word) but yeah. Pale folk have been a raping others for fuken days.

hey! Thats racist yo! jews is the most opressed poorest boofuckinghoo race around man, you should feel sorry for them, or youre antisemitic!

butthurt jews! Liek omgwtflol!!
its totally like 1938 yo! Fuck, fire up the trains. Im Sick of the bullshit.

. *kill all the jew cunts .



Hitler's infamous speech to the Reichstag on January 30, 1939: “If international Jewish financiers inside and outside Europe should succeed in plunging the nations once more into a world war then the result will not be the…victory of Jewry but the annihilation of the Jewish race in Europe.”
Hitler presented the Jews as behind all of Germany's moral and economic problems

jews!
Crime pays. Just not the average schmuck. Now, wonder what would happen to crime if jews and their jewgold were removed from the equation....
He blamed "money-grubbing Jews" for all of Germany's economic problems

which dumbass expects that?
well, yes. he probably is. on account of being a rich white weasely jew fuck, asides anything else.
.
Anti-capitalist propaganda, touching on usury, would use anti-semitic elements from the association of Jews with money-lenders.

i'm not going to bother reading shit. tis the KB way.
but are you talking about "muskarah lending"?if yes, then fuck jews. if not, also fuck jews. cos they're still dicks. global enslavement and blah blah blah. (are the old whiteys asleep yet? best way for em.
Exploiting pre-existing images and stereotypes, Nazi propagandists portrayed Jews as an “alien race” that fed off the host nation, poisoned its culture, seized its economy, and enslaved its workers and farmers.
Jews were attacked as the embodiment of capitalism "interest slavery", used the association of Jews with money-lenders

jews (israel) taxes palestinians.... Does not provide services. Most days of the week this is called theft.Oh yeah, its cos teh jews dont want to be held to account under international lore.Lulz!
Jews were depicted as have undue representation in the professions such as laywers doctors Journalists and bankers

i dont do jewtubes, but id be sad if one of those was not NWA's fuck the police.
America’s entry into the war given that the Jews were behind it.

lmfao! rbjiafp! meanwhile,, off trots john to their (JSA) latest war!
well, not john, obviously, he's far too rich and white and Jewish and a fucken sneaky jew cunt, for that kind of carry on, but we'll send the plebs!
i'd love to see america rising. be fucken interesting see what happens instead of the current BS.

you've got that one the wrong way 'round there crackerfulla.
the israel owns the jew S of A. the jew S of A is the literal cash cow, farming citizens for jewgolds.
but shhhhhhh. it's a conspiracy mann!
Hitler declared America as a "mongrel nation", grown too rich too soon and governed by a capitalist elite with strong ties to the Jews.


yurp jews invented israel.
israel OWNS america, so it's not 'support' as such, rather, jews collecting the cash from the cash-cow-of-a. billions. (that's 1, 000, 000, 000, 0000 dollars, more than most of you old white fucks will handle in your entire life) annually, in "aid" to say nothing of weapons contracts.. cue "nuke them from orbit"

errr.... cos jews.
the grandest fucking ironing being, that after the 40s jewathon, they bought all the "bad guys". literally, bought and paid for them to come to america, dropping charges and protecting them from criminal persecution, to work for the US government... funded/owned by....jews!

whut chu talkin 'bout willis, all gews :heart: israel. that's part of being a gew.
the yurpgews (ironically the ones that also started the jewnited nations, or league of nations, as it was, but that name can't be jewenated.) made up gewland and started hating on the cameljockeys. everyone involved is just jacking the others off, proved time and again. they also made up americaland, so have had their hooks in from the git go.
as far as israel "owning" 'murca there's info out there, i heard the other day that blackarse was going to give them 300 bajillion of americunt monies or some shit to bomb some more kindergartens in the un(jew)occupied parts of palestineland. fun times!
Propaganda against Great Britain as a plutocracy also led to increased emphasis on anti-semitism, describing Jews as being behind both

jesus, you did get some, didnt ya. Ive explained my position. If youre unclear on it. Your problem. And no. The middle east was going good. Until Jews.
Prior to the invasion of Poland, a major anti-Polish campaign was launched, asserting such claims as forced labor of ethnic Germans, persecution of them, Polish disorder, Poles provoking border incidents, and aggressive intentions from its government.Newspapers wrote copiously on depicted Polish ethnic Germans as deeply persecuted and the invasion as necessary to protect them


as for palestinians getting financial backing from anyone.. fuck it, mostly what they want is not to be bombed in their sleep, to have a better than 50/50 chance their children will come home from school, to not have to have assault rifles loaded behind their doors.
it is people, under modern day oppression, not by their own government, but by a fascist dictatorial regime that has NO FUCKING RIGHT to exist, let alone enforce their racist bullshit against a 'disadvantaged' population. cue "nuke them from orbit"
The Reichstag fire was attributed to a Jewish conspiracy.

unfortunately, the towers WERE designed to withstand MULTIPLE impacts from aircraft. funny that. fortunately, all the jews decided not to turn up for work that day (true story)

yeah, interesting he would have had to fork out hundreds of millions for asbestos removal to ring the buildings up to code. not to worry though, the tens of billions of dollars worth of "terrorist insurance" ( i shit you not) he took out the previous month was just in time!

was your argument not 'terrorist had planned something like it, so it must have been terrorists'?
Yeah, like this. and then you were all like 'usa is dicks so obviously arab cunts are going to go halfway round the world to fuck their day up'srsly, who goes to the other side of the planet to enforce their own domestic racist/jew/imf policy???
Instructions for propaganda speakers directed them to claim that anti-semitism was rising throughout the world.

butthurt jews! Liek omgwtflol!!
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2701365/Anti-Semitic-attacks-rise-Europe-German-French-Italian-foreign-ministers-condemn-growing-hostility-against-Jews-wake-Gaza-conflict.html
.
http://research.calvin.edu/german-propaganda-archive/responses.htm
http://www.ushmm.org/wlc/en/article.php?ModuleId=10005274
http://www.holocaustresearchproject.org/holoprelude/nazprop.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Themes_in_Nazi_propaganda


No. Capital. J. The rest is entirely up to you.
I am making my own mind up based on what I know tyvm.
They possibly see racism as some form of fag movement.
Good luck with that :niceone:.

Oh the spelling rather than the words the context or the actual meaning.
Enlighten us all. how none of this is anti-sematic because it has a small J.



Anti Semite
religious (Jew as Christ-killer),
economic (Jew as banker, usurer, money-obsessed),
social (Jew as social inferior, "pushy," vulgar, therefore excluded from personal contact),
racist (Jews as an inferior "race"),
ideological (Jews regarded as subversive or revolutionary),
cultural (Jews regarded as undermining the moral and structural fiber of civilization).


i dont do jewtubes, but id be sad if one of those was not NWA's fuck the police.


i'm not going to bother reading shit. tis the KB way.
but are you talking about "muskarah lending"?
if yes, then fuck jews.
if not, also fuck jews. cos they're still dicks. global enslavement and blah blah blah. (are the old whiteys asleep yet? best way for em.


jews!
Crime pays. Just not the average schmuck.
Now, wonder what would happen to crime if jews and their jewgold were removed from the equation....


which dumbass expects that?
well, yes. he probably is.
on account of being a rich white weasely jew fuck, asides anything else.
where's greg hallet when you need him.


errr.... cos jews.
the grandest fucking ironing being, that after the 40s jewathon, they bought all the "bad guys". literally, bought and paid for them to come to america, dropping charges and protecting them from criminal persecution, to work for the US government... funded/owned by....jews!


well, considering that wasnt even the worst Holocaust (tm)
(no,like, seriously, actually, jews copyrighted that shit so no other slaughtered or opressed peoples can use that word)
but yeah. Pale folk have been a raping others for fuken days.


Unfortunately the rest of the world simplistically believes it is all because Hammas fires rockets at Israel ... so why don't they just stop?
They fire the rockets and throw the stones because that is all they have left to protest with FFS!
Gaza Palestinians are totally oppressed by brutal Israeli occupation forces and Israeli settlers .. every bit as bad or worse than Nazi Germany!
If they stop firing rockets and throwing stones nothing changes for the Palestinians ... it only makes things more comfortable for Israel.
It's time for the world to wake up and get real about this situation. :yes:

. *kill all the jew cunts .


jesus, you did get some, didnt ya.
Ive explained my position. If youre unclear on it. Your problem.
And no. The middle east was going good. Until Jews.

jews (israel) taxes palestinians.... Does not provide services.
Most days of the week this is called theft.
Oh yeah, its cos teh jews dont want to be held to account under international lore.
Lulz!

hey! Thats racist yo! jews is the most opressed poorest boofuckinghoo race around man, you should feel sorry for them, or youre antisemitic!

you've got that one the wrong way 'round there crackerfulla.
the israel owns the jew S of A. the jew S of A is the literal cash cow, farming citizens for jewgolds.
but shhhhhhh. it's a conspiracy mann!


whut chu talkin 'bout willis, all gews :heart: israel. that's part of being a gew.
the yurpgews (ironically the ones that also started the jewnited nations, or league of nations, as it was, but that name can't be jewenated.) made up gewland and started hating on the cameljockeys. everyone involved is just jacking the others off, proved time and again. they also made up americaland, so have had their hooks in from the git go.

as far as israel "owning" 'murca there's info out there, i heard the other day that blackarse was going to give them 300 bajillion of americunt monies or some shit to bomb some more kindergartens in the un(jew)occupied parts of palestineland. fun times!

butthurt jews! Liek omgwtflol!!
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2701365/Anti-Semitic-attacks-rise-Europe-German-French-Italian-foreign-ministers-condemn-growing-hostility-against-Jews-wake-Gaza-conflict.html
its totally like 1938 yo!
Fuck, fire up the trains. Im Sick of the bullshit.


i love the tree of life... fuck the kaballah, that sounds like some jew tomfuckery, and i'm not down with jew tomfuckery.
( have a really, really awesome (poster size) image of the tree of life, can't fucken upload it though. google that shit.)

thought my tree of life was some tarot shit, but i see now it has jew shit on it. unteresting...



insurance=money=jew shit.
so yes. it was. (read up on the jew that took out terrorist insurance on the TTs, and how the courts screwed him by only paying out 4 billion more than the towers were worth (he wanted five billion :crybaby:)- they were also full of asbestos which co$ts to remove...and how 90% of jews conviniently took the day off, that day.

you also dont address the 5 billion dollar jew-spiracy


sorry to disapoint you, grand zionist cyclops Ed.
i have read a fair bit, for and against, unforunately the "there's no conspiracy" camp are sadly lacking in anything that i can believe....[/COLOR]
jews dude. jews. hilariously and ironically, the airport security from both planes, and the tower security, were he same jew-company.
jews don't like muslims, so if you can make people hate muslims more than jews, you get to keep selling them shit. and that's profitable, which, at the end of the day, if what it's about. money.
it's pretty un-PC to hate jews in the west, while muslim hate is encouraged by propoganda and ignorance (anyone tell me what "jihad" means?)
aha! scummy was in on it!
a jew and a pig... all hail a society that gives people like him guns...
and still no takers to answer the 5 billion dollar terrorist insurance a month prior eh...
or why the jews didn't turn up for work that day.


jews i tells ya.

was your argument not 'terrorist had planned something like it, so it must have been terrorists'?
Yeah, like this. and then you were all like 'usa is dicks so obviously arab cunts are going to go halfway round the world to fuck their day up' srsly, who goes to the other side of the planet to enforce their own domestic racist/jew/imf policy???


are you fucking with me?

I dont give a fuck what jews think. Theyre fucking jews!
They are a step below lawyers, otherwise known as the scourge of the world.
Even jesus hated fucking jews and gave them an ass whupping when they were jew scheming.

So next time you think about deliberately misinterpreting jew shit, just ask yourself. Wwjd?

Im writing the dictionary here.
Its jew, and its a noundjective.


i wasnt paying a lot of attention. I thought he was on pilgramage to mecca...
But pretty much everything over there is interconnected, and jewJew v arab.


i support my allies, and anyone fighting my enemies.

it's amazing how much shit the jews, the actual Jews (israel) are fucking up, and not even the threat of a fucking bus ticket from the jewnited nations.

carry on, old white cunts, the world is good.
fuck i can't wait until you're all dead.


are you fucking with me?

I dont give a fuck what jews think. Theyre fucking jews!
They are a step below lawyers, otherwise known as the scourge of the world.
Even jesus hated fucking jews and gave them an ass whupping when they were jew scheming.

So next time you think about deliberately misinterpreting jew shit, just ask yourself. Wwjd?

Im writing the dictionary here.
Its jew, and its a noundjective.


so you admit that jews are a separate race?



by definition thats impossible. Thats like saying ill find you a hat that isnt a hat.
It is what it is because thats what it is.
Tautology, round two.

Get it in ya:
jew ≠ Jewish people.

(consider also that your rabid anti-anti-semitism has been formed in a non muslim country by being immersed in media thats 99% owned by jews. Jewish jews, that is.)

There, fixed it for ya!

Jewish ˈdʒuːɪʃ/ adjective
1. relating to, associated with, or denoting Jews or Judaism.

just because a very small minority use a term in a specific way, that does not make it fact

oh and by the way, it's not just anti-anti-Semitism as you call it. It's anti-anything that puts down another group of people in derogatory terms. If you were doing this with Muslims, or capricorns, or Italians I would react in the same way.

Come on axel explain how none of this is racist and anti-sematic
Come on little troll, here is your chance to win us all over, So spit it out.
Tell us all how blighted and down trodden you are.
Or are you too gutless.
Tell us all how you have such a right to spout out racial untruths and rants yet no one is allowed to challenge you on the validity of them.
If not piss off back under the bridge.

[bogan]

Those left.

My fave to date:





:killingme.

The 'it' being mashy's idea of an RBE; not really sure why that would be a favorite, but you have become more unhinged over the last few years...

[Katman]

sixth copy and paste of a previous post


You've really got issues, haven't you?

[mashman]

The 'it' being mashy's idea of an RBE; not really sure why that would be a favorite, but you have become more unhinged over the last few years...

Yeah, that 'it' that you freely admit to not understanding :killingme.

[Akzle]

http://www.taitokerau.co.nz/images2/icon1.jpg

[husaberg]

You've really got issues, haven't you?

Issues with hypocrites like you and Axel why yes.
Have you only just picked up on that.
Or were you too busy trying to find more free energy conspiracies that were quashed by big oil.
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/174599-Alternative-fuels


big pic of a tree


i love the tree of life... fuck the kaballah, that sounds like some jew tomfuckery, and i'm not down with jew tomfuckery.
( have a really, really awesome (poster size) image of the tree of life, can't fucken upload it though. google that shit.)

thought my tree of life was some tarot shit, but i see now it has jew shit on it. unteresting...


by definition thats impossible. Thats like saying ill find you a hat that isnt a hat.
It is what it is because thats what it is.
Tautology, round two.

Get it in ya:
jew ≠ Jewish people.

(consider also that your rabid anti-anti-semitism has been formed in a non muslim country by being immersed in media thats 99% owned by jews. Jewish jews, that is.)

There, fixed it for ya!

Jewish ˈdʒuːɪʃ/ adjective
1. relating to, associated with, or denoting Jews or Judaism.

just because a very small minority use a term in a specific way, that does not make it fact

oh and by the way, it's not just anti-anti-Semitism as you call it. It's anti-anything that puts down another group of people in derogatory terms. If you were doing this with Muslims, or capricorns, or Italians I would react in the same way.

Come on axel explain how none of this is racist and anti-sematic
Come on little troll, here is your chance to win us all over, So spit it out.
Tell us all how blighted and down trodden you are.
Or are you too gutless.
Tell us all how you have such a right to spout out racial untruths and rants yet no one is allowed to challenge you on the validity of them.
If not piss off back under the bridge.

[Akzle]

eat a dick and die slow husa.

What happened to shutting the fuck up? Couldnt manage it eh.

[bogan]

Yeah, that 'it' that you freely admit to not understanding :killingme.

Indeed, and from your inability to articulate 'it' I suggest you don't either. But it's ok, I still understand you.

[husaberg]

eat a dick and die slow husa.

What happened to shutting the fuck up? Couldnt manage it eh.

Why should I?
I said I would leave you alone when you stopped trolling KB and picking on newbies.
I have seen no intention for you to stop.



Love this thread
http://mitsubishiforum.com/forum/mitsubishi-lancer-lancer-sportback-11/1994-lancer-4g92-1-6-sohc-no-spark-46546/
Look at the guys tag line the ax must make a pest of himself there as well.

They have your number
https://www.perthstreetbikes.com/forum/showthread.php?t=147652&page=3&p=2593782#post2593782

Always there with useful advice
http://www.lifestyleblock.co.nz/lsb-forum/showthread.php?p=459831#post459831
Funny they think you are a troll to.
http://www.lifestyleblock.co.nz/vforum/printthread.php?t=36538
http://www.lifestyleblock.co.nz/lsb-forum/showthread.php?p=461852#post461852

[Katman]

Why should I?



Have you no self respect?

[husaberg]

Have you no self respect?
For someone unable to answer question you sure ask a lot of them
I don't respect you or your opinions? does that help.
Is it another alternative fuel source that big oil is keeping quiet?


Has anyone seen this?http://xtrememusclecars.co/inventor-jailed-after-releasing-this-video/

It always amazes me how quickly some people form a conclusion before they've even investigated an idea.


Too Much
Even if it was debunked by chemist or engineers it could be still a big oil in a conspiracy plot
The inventor claims they drilled his teeth.
he also reportedly charges 3500 dollar for a weekend seminar to show people how it works.
Free seems pretty expensive these days.
http://kfor.com/2012/11/09/the-man-with-the-magic-motor/
http://okgazette.com/2013/01/02/liquid-energy
http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/intelligence-report/browse-all-issues/2012/fall/the-madman-and-his-motor

<iframe width="554" height="310" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/ISB4WaRPrSc" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Have a look at this scam video below its about 2.30 minutes in.

<iframe width="554" height="310" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/zmEqVki2hT4" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

I have a bridge for sale if you are interested........

[scumdog]

eat a dick and die slow husa.

What happened to shutting the fuck up? Couldnt manage it eh.


Nice to see the charm erupting...:rolleyes:

[Akzle]

for someone who 'has no time for me' you sure seem to... Have a lot of time for me.

http://s7d2.scene7.com/is/image/Caterpillar/C830336?$cc-s$

[Akzle]

Nice to see the charm erupting...:rolleyes:

have you ever posted anything worth reading?

[husaberg]

for someone who 'has no time for me' you sure seem to... Have a lot of time for me.

It means I think you are a waste of oxygen but don't worry Katman's Geet engine find makes oxygen.


have you ever posted anything worth reading?
Too much...................:weird:

[bogan]

have you ever posted anything worth reading?

I don't think so, which interestingly enough, is still a few novels worth more than you have; across all forums you participate in it would seem :killingme

[Akzle]

It means I think you are a waste of oxygen but don't worry Katman's Geet engine find makes oxygen.


Too much...................:weird:

i reject your definition and supplant my own.
disregard that, i suck cocks.

[Katman]

I have a bridge for sale if you are interested........

Have you gotten over it?

[husaberg]

Have you gotten over it?

Still licking your wounds from your free energy find Katman.
I'm not buying it maybe you should put one together for us.


i reject your definition and supplant my own.
You are a reject all on your own...............


I don't think so, which interestingly enough, is still a few novels worth more than you have; across all forums you participate in it would seem :killingme

Bloody tempted to post all of Axels rants in the Lifestyle forum. just to see what they think of his un-racist remarks
If only I had the time.
His advice is pretty shit. re-bar for earths on electric fences, how all mains powered fence units are actually 12 volt.
Don't give up your day job Axel.;)

[scumdog]

have you ever posted anything worth reading?

Maybe to you it's not worth reading seeing as I posted it.

But then to you only your posts are worth reading, it's all about you after all...<_<

[Katman]

Bloody tempted to post all of Axels rants in the Lifestyle forum. just to see what they think of his un-racist remarks
If only I had the time.


I'm guessing you'll find the time.

[husaberg]

I'm guessing you'll find the time.
Only problem there is you are hardly renowned for your great judgement are you.
I think that geet engine designer you put us all onto had a time machine as well didn't he, that why big oil was trying to keep him quiet.


Some further info.

http://www.geetfriends.net/

He sounds like the modern day Nikola Tesla.


He sounds like a scam artist.

Then again, you work with a few spanners right? Just build one and show us all!


It always amazes me how quickly some people form a conclusion before they've even investigated an idea.


It always amazes me how some people assume the thing they find online has not been found (and investigated) many times before.

He's a known scammer preying on society's weak minded, good fucking job he is going to the slammer/nuthouse.

[Tazz]

<iframe width="420" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/zjedLeVGcfE" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

[Swoop]

4 million Armenians were killed??:blink:
They hushed that one up! Damn' gubbinment hiding the truth.





My speed date asked me if I was into conspiracy theories.
"Well, so-so," I replied
"That's a pity," she responded. "I couldn't sleep with a man who didn't love them. Second question, who is your favourite Royal?"
"Prince Trevor," I said. "He's the one they don't talk about."<_<

[Banditbandit]

Lol, I'm on record on this site as being interested in the subject of gangs and have read up on it.

O dear .. so you've read about gangs .. got any practical experience ??? Or do you rely on what others say and on other judgments?


Juvenile? This from the person who posted "silly pathetic game... not interested..." on the "I'm a better rider than you-oo..." thread when he couldn't come up with a response.

Refusing to participate is not the same as not being able to come up with a response ..

[Zedder]

O dear .. so you've read about gangs .. got any practical experience ??? Or do you rely on what others say and on other judgments?


The guy wrote "interested". Look up what that means before you get on your hasssle-the-noob and 1%er soap box.

[Banditbandit]

The guy wrote "interested". Look up what that means before you get on your hasssle-the-noob and 1%er soap box.

I hope you would be offended if I said "fuck off ..."

[Zedder]

I hope you would be offended if I said "fuck off ..."


Get fucked you sad old ex bikie. If it wasn't this, it would be spewing racist shit about the Treaty of Waitangi.

Take a leaf out of Motu's book and move on.

[Banditbandit]

Get fucked you sad old ex bikie. If it wasn't this, it would be spewing racist shit about the Treaty of Waitangi.

Take a leaf out of Motu's book and move on.

:rofl: :clap: :laugh: :rofl:

You're so predictable ...

[Zedder]

:rofl: :clap: :laugh: :rofl:

You're so predictable ...

Wow! All this time and you came up with that.

[husaberg]

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e381/kestrel9000/Straight_To_The_Sea_Owned.jpg

[bogan]

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e381/kestrel9000/Straight_To_The_Sea_Owned.jpg

Would a sinking wakka picture not be more appropriate, given the circumstance of said owning... :innocent:

[husaberg]

Would a sinking wakka picture not be more appropriate, given the circumstance of said owning... :innocent:

No idea? I liked the going down in flames motif..........
It certainly wasn't going out in a blaze of glory.......

[Katman]

No idea? I liked the going down in flames motif..........
It certainly wasn't going out in a blaze of glory.......

<img src="http://allthingsd.com/files/2012/06/trainwreck.jpg"/>

[husaberg]

Pic of a train engine

Is that engine a Geet powered free energy Engine Katman?

Tell us all about it some more..........
http://api.ning.com/files/8GXLZoVfwKwdKaZ34O9qlTkDGVu-hv6SUI9eH6beeLilDoicSQ2247nxAgBNWQMQUy1pJd2uFlqsdI G9Qd4vLQXe3rTzHeqq/fatcat.jpg


Some further info.

http://www.geetfriends.net/

He sounds like the modern day Nikola Tesla.


He sounds like a scam artist.

Then again, you work with a few spanners right? Just build one and show us all!



It always amazes me how some people assume the thing they find online has not been found (and investigated) many times before.

He's a known scammer preying on society's weak minded, good fucking job he is going to the slammer/nuthouse.


It always amazes me how quickly some people form a conclusion before they've even investigated an idea.

[Banditbandit]

Wow! All this time and you came up with that.

You think I sit around trying to come up with responses to your crap ???

What a sad life you lead ..

[Zedder]

You think I sit around trying to come up with responses to your crap ???

What a sad life you lead ..


So why did you respond to my post then?

[Banditbandit]

So why did you respond to my post then?


It took about six seconds ... no biggie ...

[Zedder]

It took about six seconds ... no biggie ...


Lol, so about the time it takes your brain to send the message to your fingers.

[Gadget1]

O dear .. so you've read about gangs .. got any practical experience ??? Or do you rely on what others say and on other judgments?


I'm told you have a background in academia so your post is very interesting. If you were teaching you probably used textbooks.

How does it work then if someone is teaching about the 1861-65 American Civil War for instance, in a 2015 classroom, and they haven't had any practical experience of that war?

[husaberg]

Lol, so about the time it takes your brain to send the message to your fingers.


I'm told you have a background in academia so your post is very interesting. If you were teaching you probably used textbooks.

How does it work then if someone is teaching about the 1861-65 American Civil War for instance, in a 2015 classroom, and they haven't had any practical experience of that war?


well duh.

found a ~million year tracking cookie (google) on a computer once.

duckduckgo oi.


you use chrome. and gmail. and linkedin.

and then complain about privacy issues?? :weird:


also. nothing is irreversible. they just bury it. very. very. deep.

ie. had to once revert to gmail HTML view (just fucken try getting even to THAT) rather than their shiney bullshit interface, to get to a settings panel, to change some shit.
so try that. also there's fucken google dk (or some shit) which you have to activate to get into some (admittedly neat) tools

les sigh.


Ffs! Now he's infected this thread!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Thanks for that, but no I don't want to blow you. I like women.

You should stay with the ruminants species you're involved with because it offers a wider variety of opportunities.





AZAZEL (Scapegoat, Lev. xvi., A. V.):

Table of Contents
—Biblical Data:
—In Biblical, Apocryphal, and Rabbinical Literature:
Azazel Personification of Impurity.
Leader of the Rebellious Angels.
The Name.
The Rite.
—Critical View:

The name of a supernatural being mentioned in connection with the ritual of the Day of Atonement (Lev. xvi.). After Satan, for whom he was in some degree a preparation, Azazel enjoys the distinction of being the most mysterious extrahuman character in sacred literature

You do have to wonder...............there is some pretty complex narcissistic thought patterns here.

[Katman]

I'm told you have a background in academia so your post is very interesting. If you were teaching you probably used textbooks.

How does it work then if someone is teaching about the 1861-65 American Civil War for instance, in a 2015 classroom, and they haven't had any practical experience of that war?

There's probably not many people still alive who took part in the American Civil War.

However, there are plenty of gang members alive out there today if you actually had an interest in the subject.

I suspect you lack the balls to carrying out any face to face research though.

[Gadget1]

There's probably not many people still alive who took part in the American Civil War.

However, there are plenty of gang members alive out there today if you actually had an interest in the subject.

I suspect you lack the balls to carrying out any face to face research though.


The dates were to illustrate a point about using text books. The history of gangs extends to a bit more than just New Zealand and fyi the Hells Angels were started in the 1950s. That's a while ago too and it's probably a bit hard to talk to those guys now.

Why would I need face to face research anyway? I'm not writing a book like Professor Gilbert did.

[Banditbandit]

I'm told you have a background in academia so your post is very interesting. If you were teaching you probably used textbooks.

How does it work then if someone is teaching about the 1861-65 American Civil War for instance, in a 2015 classroom, and they haven't had any practical experience of that war?

That's an interesting question. (Yes, for my sins I do work in academia ... and yes I do use books in my classes) My original point was that you'd probably read books about gangs - which are usually very wrong in most aspects ... and so you had bugger all knowledge about the 1%er MCs. Your categorization of them as "scum" also got up my nose a bit ... which didn't help.

In terms of your question, it depends on what is being taught - from what perspective. If it is historical, then there is plenty written about the US Civil War from that perspective - same for a Sociological or Social Anthropology approach (the long-term results of the US Civil War are quite fascinating ...) then those present no issues.

If, however, someone tried to teach about what it was like to be there at the time, then yes, current teachers have no experience and so can't teach that ...


The history of gangs extends to a bit more than just New Zealand and fyi the Hells Angels were started in the 1950s. That's a while ago too and it's probably a bit hard to talk to those guys now.



Yes .. that's true ... Oakland Founding member Sonny Barger is still alive .. you can reach him here

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Sonny-Barger/109635316717

And his webpage is here

http://www.sonnybarger.com/news.html

[Gadget1]

That's an interesting question. (Yes, for my sins I do work in academia ... and yes I do use books in my classes) My original point was that you'd probably read books about gangs - which are usually very wrong in most aspects ... and so you had bugger all knowledge about the 1%er MCs. Your categorization of them as "scum" also got up my nose a bit ... which didn't help.

In terms of your question, it depends on what is being taught - from what perspective. If it is historical, then there is plenty written about the US Civil War from that perspective - same for a Sociological or Social Anthropology approach (the long-term results of the US Civil War are quite fascinating ...) then those present no issues.

If, however, someone tried to teach about what it was like to be there at the time, then yes, current teachers have no experience and so can't teach that ...



Yes .. that's true ... Oakland Founding member Sonny Barger is still alive .. you can reach him here

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Sonny-Barger/109635316717

And his webpage is here

http://www.sonnybarger.com/news.html


Yeah, I'm sure the bikers from the recent Waco shootout were all nice guys.

[Banditbandit]

Yeah, I'm sure the bikers from the recent Waco shootout were all nice guys.

I'm sure many of them were fathers, sons, uncles, husbands ... maybe even grandparents ...

"Nice" is a relative term. I'm sure NONE of them want to live up to your standard of "nice"

And I'm sure there are many people now grieving their deaths ...

[Gadget1]

I'm sure many of them were fathers, sons, uncles, husbands ... maybe even grandparents ...

"Nice" is a relative term. I'm sure NONE of them want to live up to your standard of "nice"

And I'm sure there are many people now grieving their deaths ...


There's a lot of "I'm sure"s in your post. I seriously doubt you know all that for sure. They'd probably still be alive if they weren't what they were.

[Banditbandit]

There's a lot of "I'm sure"s in your post.

I was deliberately borrowing your phrase ...




I seriously doubt you know all that for sure.

And like I give a fuck whether you believe me or not????


They'd probably still be alive if they weren't what they were.

Yeah .. that is true too. That's probably true of all dead people ...

[Bikemad]

Yeah, I'm sure the bikers from the recent Waco shootout were all nice guys.

natural selection at its finest

[Maha]

And like I give a fuck whether you believe me or not????



How can anyone believe another when what they're saying is not 100% correct. Anything less than that 100% threshold is either just an opinion or a conspiracy. ;)

[Gadget1]

I was deliberately borrowing your phrase ...



And like I give a fuck whether you believe me or not????



Yeah .. that is true too. That's probably true of all dead people ...


1:Sure you were.

2:See maha's post

3:Nah, only the 1%. Thankfully.

[Gadget1]

natural selection at its finest

Very true.

[Banditbandit]

How can anyone believe another when what they're saying is not 100% correct. Anything less than that 100% threshold is either just an opinion or a conspiracy. ;)

My response "And like I give a fuck whether you believe me or not???? " relates to this:


I'm sure many of them were fathers, sons, uncles, husbands ... maybe even grandparents ...

"Nice" is a relative term. I'm sure NONE of them want to live up to your standard of "nice"

And I'm sure there are many people now grieving their deaths ...

And this one from Gadget.


I seriously doubt you know all that for sure.

Now - I know for a fact that they will all be someone's son ... and some of them will have children .. so they are fathers ... some of them will have partners (married or otherwise) so they are husbands ... if they have brothers and sisters then a good chance some will be uncles ...

And I'm also sure there will be people grieving their deaths ...

I didn't say ALL of them were ALL of those ...

So, if Gadget chooses to doubt then that's his problem, not mine ..

[Banditbandit]

Yeah .. that is true too. That's probably true of all dead people ...




3:Nah, only the 1%. Thankfully.

It applies to all the dead soldiers, fighter pilots, navy people killed in action, bikers killed in road accidents ... firemen killed on the job ... old people (if they weren't old they wouldn't die ...) dead pedestrians (they wouldn't be dead if they hadn't tried to cross the road at the wrong time ...) ...

Why don't you think before wiggling your fingers ...

[Zedder]

My response "And like I give a fuck whether you believe me or not???? " relates to this:



And this one from Gadget.



Now - I know for a fact that they will all be someone's son ... and some of them will have children .. so they are fathers ... some of them will have partners (married or otherwise) so they are husbands ... if they have brothers and sisters then a good chance some will be uncles ...

And I'm also sure there will be people grieving their deaths ...

I didn't say ALL of them were ALL of those ...

So, if Gadget chooses to doubt then that's his problem, not mine ..


Tanty alert on post number 357.

[Gadget1]

It applies to all the dead soldiers, fighter pilots, navy people killed in action, bikers killed in road accidents ... firemen killed on the job ... old people (if they weren't old they wouldn't die ...) dead pedestrians (they wouldn't be dead if they hadn't tried to cross the road at the wrong time ...) ...

Why don't you think before wiggling your fingers ...


I was posting about 1%ers, ie: the outlaw gangs, ie: the guys killed at Waco recently.

And they let you teach people. Ffs!

[Banditbandit]

Tanty alert on post number 357.

:clap: :laugh: :rofl:

You couldn't be more wrong ... I'm amused, not throwing a tantrum ... How can we hold a serious conversation (well, what counts as one on KBer) if you continually mis-read my words ...


I was posting about 1%ers, ie: the outlaw gangs, ie: the guys killed at Waco recently.

And they let you teach people. Ffs!

Yes .. but Context .. Context .. I agreed with you - and pointed out it is likely true for all dead people ... such generalizations tend towards the meaningless ...

Same applies - how can we have a serious conversation if you mis-read my words?

[bogan]

Tanty alert on post number 357.

That reminds me, were you still around when he had his Maori is the only real NZ culture tanty?

That shit was gold.

[Zedder]

That reminds me, were you still around when he had his Maori is the only real NZ culture tanty?

That shit was gold.

That doesn't ring any bells but there was pages of ravings about it shit like that until you and I told him we'd had enough about 2 years ago I think.

I see he's blaming me and Gadget1 for misreading him now.

[husaberg]

That reminds me, were you still around when he had his Maori is the only real NZ culture tanty?

That shit was gold.

Culture on KB? Now that would be a real pearler.
Where would we find this gem.:msn-wink:

[Zedder]

Culture on KB? Now that would be a real pearler.
Where would we find this gem.:msn-wink:

I'll give you a clue, it's not in a caravan up north.

[husaberg]

I'll give you a clue, it's not in a caravan up north.
312011
The goat sure looks a little worried and it explains all the references to POT.

[Zedder]

The goat sure looks a little worried and it explains all the references to POT.

Hahahahahahahahahahahahah!

[husaberg]

Hahahahahahahahahahahahah!

I picked his voice being a little higher too..........
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Stereotypes are not that much fun aye.
Rather ironically her father was Armenian her mother part German.

[Banditbandit]

That reminds me, were you still around when he had his Maori is the only real NZ culture tanty?

That shit was gold.

That would be such a stupid thing to say ... "real" is not a term that you can apply to culture as in "real" or "not real".

Culture is ...

[Banditbandit]

I see he's blaming me and Gadget1 for misreading him now.

Who else should I "blame" ??? It's you who are reading my words with a lack of comprehension.

[Zedder]

That would be such a stupid thing to say ... "real" is not a term that you can apply to culture as in "real" or "not real".

Culture is ...

It's not a stupid thing to say at all. There is ideal culture and there is real culture, look it up.

[Zedder]

Who else should I "blame" ??? It's you who are reading my words with a lack of comprehension.

Pfft, mere semantics twin bandit.

[Banditbandit]

Pfft, mere semantics twin bandit.

http://cdn.someecards.com/someecards/usercards/when-you-are-dead-you-dont-know-you-are-dead-it-is-only-difficult-for-the-others-same-when-you-are-stupid-4954b.png

[Zedder]

And when you're as anally retentive as you are, you're better off dead.

Ya can't even have fun with words now ay? Very sad.

[bogan]

That would be such a stupid thing to say ... "real" is not a term that you can apply to culture as in "real" or "not real".

Culture is ...

Go on then, tell us all about kiwi, pakeha, and european culture again...

I'll give you a hint, they are not the same thing.

[Jin]

ahhahhhhhh
312060

[Laava]

ahhahhhhhh


Dude, you are not supposed to post pictures of members on here without their permission. Did you ask Rob?

[husaberg]

http://cdn.meme.am/instances/500x/55110763.jpg

[Akzle]

Dude, you are not supposed to post pictures of members on here without their permission. Did you ask Rob?

teehee. You said 'member'...

[Banditbandit]

Go on then, tell us all about kiwi, pakeha, and european culture again...

I'll give you a hint, they are not the same thing.

Whoever said they were??

[bogan]

Whoever said they were??

That who would be you. But I'm glad to see you seem to have learned a little from our earlier discourse.

[Banditbandit]

That who would be you. But I'm glad to see you seem to have learned a little from our earlier discourse.

What have you been smoking ???

[bogan]

What have you been smoking ???

Magic memory shrooms...


Cultural classrooms that replicate equity across both cultures, using appropriate cultural pedagogies ... (not asking for more money - 15% of the education vote will do. )

Cultural-based health services that replicate for Māori culture the current Pākehā models. (Not asking for more money - 15% of the health vote will do)

[Zedder]

Magic memory shrooms...


Ah yes, the ones that are the antidote to someone else's selective memory.

[scumdog]

teehee. You said 'member'...

Yeah, they shoulda said 'dick' :laugh::rofl::whistle:

[husaberg]

Yeah, they shoulda said 'dick' :laugh::rofl::whistle:

That's what he was referring to, looks like a not so sharp ax missed that anyway, ESP funny seeing someone felt the need to point out what the last laava last joke meant.:lol:

[Banditbandit]

Magic memory shrooms...

So ? I wrote that. What point are you trying to make by quoting what I wrote ...

[bogan]

So ? I wrote that. What point are you trying to make by quoting what I wrote ...

The inference is pretty clear I would have thought. Classrooms are clearly full of Kiwi culture (inclusive of the moari culture by definition) at the moment, to equate that with pakeha culture (inclusive of the wider european culture by definition, and still not actually a thing) to further your goals of racial segregation shows you think those are the same things as I outlined above.

Of course if we've misunderstood you'll be happy to clarify what you meant, and maybe explain why racial segregation is a good thing?

[Banditbandit]

The inference is pretty clear I would have thought. Classrooms are clearly full of Kiwi culture (inclusive of the moari culture by definition) at the moment, to equate that with pakeha culture (inclusive of the wider european culture by definition, and still not actually a thing) to further your goals of racial segregation shows you think those are the same things as I outlined above.

Of course if we've misunderstood you'll be happy to clarify what you meant, and maybe explain why racial segregation is a good thing?

OK. You are mixing two concepts here - race and culture. These are NOT the same thing.

First of all I use the term European-derived cultures to mean all those New Zealand cultures that have developed here (kiwi, Pākehā etc) but which take their major elements from the cultures of Europe. Such a term can also be used to describe the majority cultures of the USA, of Australia ...

Classrooms are not full of a kiwi culture that is inclusive of Māori culture. All pedagogies are culturally-based - and linked to epistemologies. The pedagogies used in our classrooms are those of the European-derived cultures, not those of Māori culture. The epistemologies are those of the European-derived cultures, not those of Māori culture.

My goal is NOT racial segregation - My goal is the flourishing of ALL New Zealanders in an equitable society. That will not be achievable if we persist in mono-cultural education practices.

Our Māori students are forced to sit in classrooms with pedagogies that they do not relate to. We need classrooms using Māori pedagogies so our Māori students learn what they need to learn ...

The same goes for health provision. There are different approaches to health among the range of cultures that exist in New Zealand ... we need a wider range of health delivery options to cater for those cultural differences.

Is that too hard to understand??

[Akzle]

You said 'member'...
...

shoulda said 'dick'
...


...and look what turns up!:

:tugger:

[Zedder]

...

...


...and look what turns up!:

Get a grip! From what I've seen on here, he's got more values and morals in his little finger than you'll ever have.

[Akzle]

but wait! there's more! the call to penis has been heard again:



Get a grip! From what I've seen on here, he's got more values and morals in his little finger than you'll ever have.

[husaberg]

Get a grip! From what I've seen on here, he's got more values and morals in his little finger than you'll ever have.
Conversely I think he is gripping it a little to tight.


but wait! there's more! the call to penis has been heard again:
You must be kidding.............
You are hardly a mater debater are you, then again on the other hand.:nya:
Small thing do amuse small minds.....so keep it coming .........
You are not exactly know for you sharp insightful comments are you ax.
More the blunt racist remarks.

[Zedder]

but wait! there's more! the call to penis has been heard again:


I bet your girlfriend the goat laaaaaaaughs at your jokes.

[husaberg]

I bet your girlfriend the goat laaaaaaaughs at your jokes.

When he hits her up for a quicky she even goes naaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.........

[Zedder]

When he hits her up for a quicky she even goes naaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.........

I'd start a pun run but I heard they get PDed now.

[husaberg]

I'd start a pun run but I heard they get PDed now.

So how many axels does it take to screw in a light bulb?

None ......................................Axels only screw goats.

[husaberg]

...

...and look what turns up!:

Sorry can't hair what you are Saanen

[bogan]

OK. You are mixing two concepts here - race and culture. These are NOT the same thing.

By using the 15% figure as a cultural reference it is clear you are mixing the two; I however, am not, as I'm dealing with the broader concepts, unassigned to people.



First of all I use the term European-derived cultures to mean all those New Zealand cultures that have developed here (kiwi, Pākehā etc) but which take their major elements from the cultures of Europe. Such a term can also be used to describe the majority cultures of the USA, of Australia ...


So you make no distinction between what you claim are european derived cultures?


Classrooms are not full of a kiwi culture that is inclusive of Māori culture. All pedagogies are culturally-based - and linked to epistemologies. The pedagogies used in our classrooms are those of the European-derived cultures, not those of Māori culture. The epistemologies are those of the European-derived cultures, not those of Māori culture.

My goal is NOT racial segregation - My goal is the flourishing of ALL New Zealanders in an equitable society. That will not be achievable if we persist in mono-cultural education practices.

Our Māori students are forced to sit in classrooms with pedagogies that they do not relate to. We need classrooms using Māori pedagogies so our Māori students learn what they need to learn ...

The same goes for health provision. There are different approaches to health among the range of cultures that exist in New Zealand ... we need a wider range of health delivery options to cater for those cultural differences.

Is that too hard to understand??

The pedagogies used in our classrooms are Kiwi, as are the epistemologies. Kiwi culture includes elements from european, moari, asian, etc etc. Maori culture was certainly included in our classrooms when I went thorough, in the form of maori language, arts, history, events.

There is no room for an equitable society if you start segregating education and healthcare; it's just a massive backwards step.

Learning from books/lectures/supervision/homework may not be relateable for all; but perhaps being educated isn't either? I mean this is not a culture thing, just education; the demonstrably best way to educate a society; just looking at all the other cultures who do it the same way tells you there is nothing culture specific about it.

Again, state supplied healthcare is that which is demonstrably the best way to care for society; and there are still alternatives like naturopathy, homeopathy etc...

Your problem is your chosen personal culture (and I use this term because I know your views do not reflect that of the maori race or culture) is too exclusive to know what Kiwi culture actually is, since you define anything that is not specifically the Maori way of doing things as pakeha/kiwi/european culture. Here's a homework task for you, list the main differences between those three 'cultures'.

[Banditbandit]

By using the 15% figure as a cultural reference it is clear you are mixing the two; I however, am not, as I'm dealing with the broader concepts, unassigned to people.

Completely unsure where you get that figure from - I may have used it .. but what does it mean ?




So you make no distinction between what you claim are european derived cultures?

I make plenty of distinctions within cultures. there's the culture of a rugby club, the culture of a company boardroom, the culture of a city council meeting, the culture of a chess club ... all may fall into a wider cultural net .. such a Kiwi, Pākehā, Māori ...




The pedagogies used in our classrooms are Kiwi, as are the epistemologies. Kiwi culture includes elements from european, moari, asian, etc etc. Maori culture was certainly included in our classrooms when I went thorough, in the form of maori language, arts, history, events.

You are confusing subject knowledge ("in the form of maori language, arts, history, events.") with pedagogies and epistemologies.


There is no room for an equitable society if you start segregating education and healthcare; it's just a massive backwards step.

That's an assimilationist/colonizing position - you are imposing your cultural norms on people from other cultures ..


Learning from books/lectures/supervision/homework may not be relateable for all; but perhaps being educated isn't either? I mean this is not a culture thing, just education; the demonstrably best way to educate a society; just looking at all the other cultures who do it the same way tells you there is nothing culture specific about it.

Which clearly demonstrates you have no idea what you are talking about ...


Again, state supplied healthcare is that which is demonstrably the best way to care for society; and there are still alternatives like naturopathy, homeopathy etc...

Again .. no idea ..


Your problem is your chosen personal culture (and I use this term because I know your views do not reflect that of the maori race or culture) is too exclusive to know what Kiwi culture actually is, since you define anything that is not specifically the Maori way of doing things as pakeha/kiwi/european culture. Here's a homework task for you, list the main differences between those three 'cultures'.

Oh .. a test .. what are the operating conditions? The marking criteria? How many words? In what context ??? Are you using Pākehā as a descriptive of political term? Can I express 'kiwi' culture through bird noises? Which European cultures am I allowed to use as examples?

You have no idea what you are talking about - I've lost interest.

[bogan]

Completely unsure where you get that figure from - I may have used it .. but what does it mean ?

I make plenty of distinctions within cultures. there's the culture of a rugby club, the culture of a company boardroom, the culture of a city council meeting, the culture of a chess club ... all may fall into a wider cultural net .. such a Kiwi, P�keh�, M�ori ...

You are confusing subject knowledge ("in the form of maori language, arts, history, events.") with pedagogies and epistemologies.

That's an assimilationist/colonizing position - you are imposing your cultural norms on people from other cultures ..

Which clearly demonstrates you have no idea what you are talking about ...

Again .. no idea ..

Oh .. a test .. what are the operating conditions? The marking criteria? How many words? In what context ??? Are you using P�keh� as a descriptive of political term? Can I express 'kiwi' culture through bird noises? Which European cultures am I allowed to use as examples?

You have no idea what you are talking about - I've lost interest.

I get that figure from the 2013 census, as it relates to the race/ethnicity question. You used it, and unless you use it relating to (and ground within) a cultural sense, then it is you who continue to confuse race with culture.

No idea what I'm talking about? I have a great idea what I'm talking about, your unwillingness to even try to teach (is this your mothadology?) just confirms that. To put it another way, before the arrival of europeans, maori were illiterate, unindustrialised, and uncivilised. As the two cultures merged the flow of knowledge and learning was largely one way; is it any wonder that the flow of teaching methodologies were as well?

Wider cultural net is why pakeha culture does not exist; as it is defined by what is taken out; not by what is there.

No, I am pointing out that maori culture is taught in our schools; that it is not taught using maori methods (which you've yet to explain) is another point.

Wrong again, I am imposing our cultural norms on ourselves. We are all kiwis. Separatism is a slippery slope, who decides upon it? on what critera are people separated? How are checks put in place to make sure treatment is equitable between those separated? Where does it stop? these are questions to be answered before descending back down such a slope, not along the way.

What do you mean, that is a correct statement in itself; if you had any evidence these separatist healers worked you could show us. Instead you seek to belittle those who disagree with you.

No it was a simple clarification, not a test.

You've lost the argument as well as interest it would seem.

The other point I would like to make, mirroring the 15% you used above; you don't speak for those 15%, you don't speak for Maori culture, you speak only for yourself; thus the only way forward is to educate people to beleive as you do. Ironically, you lack the teaching skills to show even a smidgen of evidence to why your teaching methodologies are better :lol:

[Ocean1]

The other point I would like to make, mirroring the 15% you used above; you don't speak for those 15%, you don't speak for Maori culture, you speak only for yourself; thus the only way forward is to educate people to beleive as you do. Ironically, you lack the teaching skills to show even a smidgen of evidence to why your teaching methodologies are better :lol:

Nor does he speak for the 15% of revenue required to support that 15% exclusively Maori spend.

Equality isn't a concept restricted to subsidies.

[bogan]

Nor does he speak for the 15% of revenue required to support that 15% exclusively Maori spend.

Equality isn't a concept restricted to subsidies.

Maori culture spend remember; he keeps saying it isn't a race thing so we can just sign up too...

Which would mean our revenue should go to support it; and of course any maori (by race) who do not sign up wouldn't pay for it.

You know, if I didn't know beter I'd say it sounded exactly like private schooling or private healthcare :scratch:

[Zedder]

Maori culture spend remember; he keeps saying it isn't a race thing so we can just sign up too...

Which would mean our revenue should go to support it; and of course any maori (by race) who do not sign up wouldn't pay for it.

You know, if I didn't know beter I'd say it sounded exactly like private schooling or private healthcare :scratch:


Cool, so maybe I could change my username to Zeddernui and apply for gubbermint funding for motorcycling. It's a culture that needs to be kept going...

[bogan]

Cool, so maybe I could change my username to Zeddernui and apply for gubbermint funding for motorcycling. It's a culture that needs to be kept going...

Nah, you're missing the main point, who are you excluding and segregating with that idea, and how?

[Zedder]

Nah, you're missing the main point, who are you excluding and segregating with that idea, and how?

I don't care about that stuff ay, I just want the money.

[bogan]

I don't care about that stuff ay, I just want the money.

Ahhh, a follower then... Take care lest those caressing shiny baubles take your freedom while you are not watching.