Acc levies - huge cuts

[willytheekid]

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/68460693/motor-vehicle-levies-slashed-to-120-as-govt-bows-to-pressure-to-cut-acc

...bet ya 5 bucks and a bag of chips that we are NOT included in this price reduction...again!:oi-grr:

They must be happy enough with there MASSIVE profits to date...next thing ya know, they might even start offering "actual" accident cover!<_<

[Maha]

Were are excluded, that was out a while ago Willy.

From a January post.
''Motorists are being advised against renewing their vehicle's registration for a full year, because the price is going to drop.

The Automobile Association and Consumer NZ have said renewing for shorter periods through to July 2015, will capitalise on pending reductions in ACC levies.

Both organisations say any renewals from now on should be targeted to expire shortly after July 1, because from that date, annual motor vehicle licence levies will drop by an average of 45 per cent for most vehicles - except motorcycles, mopeds, trailers and caravans''. (Fuckers!)

[willytheekid]

Were are excluded, that was out a while ago Willy.

From a January post.
''Motorists are being advised against renewing their vehicle's registration for a full year, because the price is going to drop.

The Automobile Association and Consumer NZ have said renewing for shorter periods through to July 2015, will capitalise on pending reductions in ACC levies.

Both organisations say any renewals from now on should be targeted to expire shortly after July 1, because from that date, annual motor vehicle licence levies will drop by an average of 45 per cent for most vehicles - except motorcycles, mopeds, trailers and caravans''. (Fuckers!)

:laugh: Sorry Maha, I honestly thought this was a new update on there plans...knew about the old "Claim" of just dropping the car regos...but this read as if they were going further....meh!, never expected anything from the pricks anyway.

[5ive]

Earlier the AA recommended NOT reducing the fuel levies because motorcyclists would benefit, so gave bigger cuts to cars (but based on safety ratings) and kept petrol levies the same.

Now there is talk of reducing the petrol levies sometime next year.

What is the bet that Motorcycle regos will rise accordingly as well...

[spanner spinner]

AA wants the cross subsidies from other vehicle classes to stop and the motorcycle class to pay all costs associated. They have recommended that there is a increase in motorcycle ACC increasing rego costs, to quote the AA

C. Maintain the current levies charged to motorcycle and moped owners The NZAA supports retaining the current levy for motorcycles and mopeds. Over time we believe ACC should aim to recover a greater portion of costs from users. So, while most other vehicle classes are scheduled to pay lower levies in the next financial year, it is appropriate that motorcycle and moped levies remain at current levels so that riders are contributing a greater share of motorcycle injury costs and the cross-subsidy from passenger vehicles is reduced. According to the ACC discussion document, by retaining motorcycle levies at current levels, the cross-subsidy from passenger vehicle owners will have fallen from approximately $80 per vehicle just a few years ago, to $24.36. This is to be applauded, and is an endorsement of the policy to retain motorcycle levies at current levels.
While motorcycle and moped owners may be disappointed that levies are not falling, it is important that ACC explains to riders that keeping levies unchanged will also account for the lower petrol tax contribution by motorcycles due to their superior fuel economy, and the failure by ACC to account for this previously over several years when the petrol tax component of aggregate motor vehicle levies rose. As noted in section B above, although the annual amount motorcycles and mopeds contribute in petrol tax is low, it would be necessary to raise motorcycle and moped licence levies slightly to retain equity if the petrol tax was reduced 4 cents per litre.

The AA lobbing the government is a ongoing problem as they can influence elections as they have a media voice that motorcycling doesn't.

[Reckless]

AA wants the cross subsidies from other vehicle classes to stop and the motorcycle class to pay all costs associated. They have recommended that there is a increase in motorcycle ACC increasing rego costs, to quote the AA

C. Maintain the current levies charged to motorcycle and moped owners The NZAA supports retaining the current levy for motorcycles and mopeds. Over time we believe ACC should aim to recover a greater portion of costs from users. So, while most other vehicle classes are scheduled to pay lower levies in the next financial year, it is appropriate that motorcycle and moped levies remain at current levels so that riders are contributing a greater share of motorcycle injury costs and the cross-subsidy from passenger vehicles is reduced. According to the ACC discussion document, by retaining motorcycle levies at current levels, the cross-subsidy from passenger vehicle owners will have fallen from approximately $80 per vehicle just a few years ago, to $24.36. This is to be applauded, and is an endorsement of the policy to retain motorcycle levies at current levels.
While motorcycle and moped owners may be disappointed that levies are not falling, it is important that ACC explains to riders that keeping levies unchanged will also account for the lower petrol tax contribution by motorcycles due to their superior fuel economy, and the failure by ACC to account for this previously over several years when the petrol tax component of aggregate motor vehicle levies rose. As noted in section B above, although the annual amount motorcycles and mopeds contribute in petrol tax is low, it would be necessary to raise motorcycle and moped licence levies slightly to retain equity if the petrol tax was reduced 4 cents per litre.

The AA lobbing the government is a ongoing problem as they can influence elections as they have a media voice that motorcycling doesn't.

So much for a no Fault system....AA Pricks :tugger:

[MadDuck]

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/174203-MAG-is-ramping-it-up?p=1130854775#post1130854775

[neels]

it is important that ACC explains to riders that keeping levies unchanged will also account for the lower petrol tax contribution by motorcycles due to their superior fuel economy.
So does that mean that ACC levies for old petrol drinking v-twins and 2 strokes will be going down, due to their appalling fuel economy compared to other motorcycles?

One question I've never really seen an answer to is whether the ACC levies are based only on the cost of accidents involving road registered motorcycles, or all motorcycles. Not sure what difference it would make, more of a theoretical question.

Sadly I've contributed to this, due to my wife getting a ride in a helicopter that was already on it's way to pick up a cyclist who had crashed into his mates and fucked himself up, but because she was along for the ride the cost to ACC was split between a motorcycle accident and a cycling accident. Only one half of this equation gets included in calculating direct ACC levies, and if it was me out cycling that shared the chopper ride then it would be covered by the general ACC levies, go figure.

[Jimb]

So motorcyclist are being punished for being green.........


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[Paul in NZ]

I've said it before - the AA is about the least honest outfit in NZ. It used to be a trusted friend of the motorist but it changed and its not an association or a club anymore. It is a vile corporate that exists only to feed itself through its commercial endeavours. How the fuck they have managed to writhe and wiggle into a position where they are the voice of the NZ motoring public is simply beyond me... They forget that most motorcyclists are also drivers and my hope is that no motorcycle owning driver will NEVER use them or their services EVER and to encourage your families and friends to shun them as well...

The AA is rabidly anti motorcycle. They need sorting out....

[willytheekid]

The AA is rabidly anti motorcycle. They need sorting out....

:niceone:

http://i1.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/000/043/disaster-girl.jpg

Ummmm :confused:...Paul told me too!:D

[oldrider]

I've said it before - the AA is about the least honest outfit in NZ. It used to be a trusted friend of the motorist but it changed and its not an association or a club anymore. It is a vile corporate that exists only to feed itself through its commercial endeavours. How the fuck they have managed to writhe and wiggle into a position where they are the voice of the NZ motoring public is simply beyond me... They forget that most motorcyclists are also drivers and my hope is that no motorcycle owning driver will NEVER use them or their services EVER and to encourage your families and friends to shun them as well...

The AA is rabidly anti motorcycle. They need sorting out....

True! - Their vocal representatives coined the phrase "Temporary New Zealander" to describe motorcyclists! - really really anti motorbike! :angry2:

[Paul in NZ]

:niceone:

Ummmm :confused:...paul told me too!:d

lol........

[5ive]

I've said it before - the AA is about the least honest outfit in NZ. It used to be a trusted friend of the motorist but it changed and its not an association or a club anymore. It is a vile corporate that exists only to feed itself through its commercial endeavours. How the fuck they have managed to writhe and wiggle into a position where they are the voice of the NZ motoring public is simply beyond me... They forget that most motorcyclists are also drivers and my hope is that no motorcycle owning driver will NEVER use them or their services EVER and to encourage your families and friends to shun them as well...

The AA is rabidly anti motorcycle. They need sorting out....

Thanks for reminding me. I need to look at getting some roadside assistance sorted for some long trips coming up, will steer clear of AA for sure.

[Paul in NZ]

Thanks for reminding me. I need to look at getting some roadside assistance sorted for some long trips coming up, will steer clear of AA for sure.

State offer roadside assistance....

Its pretty grim when you offer State as a fairer alternative than the AA

[Voltaire]

I've said it before - the AA is about the least honest outfit in NZ. It used to be a trusted friend of the motorist but it changed and its not an association or a club anymore. It is a vile corporate that exists only to feed itself through its commercial endeavours. How the fuck they have managed to writhe and wiggle into a position where they are the voice of the NZ motoring public is simply beyond me... They forget that most motorcyclists are also drivers and my hope is that no motorcycle owning driver will NEVER use them or their services EVER and to encourage your families and friends to shun them as well...

The AA is rabidly anti motorcycle. They need sorting out....

but I thought Dog and Lemonhead was the motoring voice of NZ
( I have to confess to being an AA member)
http://laudafinem.files.wordpress.com/2013/07/screen-shot-2013-07-22-at-4-55-02-pm.png?w=910&h=805

[5ive]

State offer roadside assistance....

Its pretty grim when you offer State as a fairer alternative than the AA

We have State Roadside for our car, which came free with our non-State car insurance. I never use it, but the wife has used it once when she's left the interior light on and flattened the battery... :facepalm:

They seem to be good, but don't appear to cater to motorcycles.

[Erelyes]

I provided a submission on the ACC levy changes, to the effect that power-to-weight, or at least power output, should be used as a method of divining their levies, as the current 600cc threshold doesn't make sense.

Got a bullshit answer about the 'data not being available' despite the fact that power output is already a field in the MVR data and most registered bikes already have that data filled in.

Rule #1 - things will get worse before they get better.
Rule #2 - who said things were going to get better?

[Indiana_Jones]

but I thought Dog and Lemonhead was the motoring voice of NZ

That's Eddie Hitler?

http://iv1.lisimg.com/image/5869855/600full-eddie-hitler.jpg

-Indy