2015 Africa Twin CRF1000L

[nerrrd]

Confirmed.

http://world.honda.com/news/2015/2150512CRF1000L-Africa-Twin/index.html?from=fb

[awa355]

What would the 'Dual Clutch' transmission involve?

[nerrrd]

What would the 'Dual Clutch' transmission involve?

From my reading, it's basically an auto transmission (with different modes) or you can run it as a clutchless manual (with buttons for shifting).

[willytheekid]

Awesome!

One of the few dual purpose bikes I would love to own:yes:


...but I will stick with the original Old warhorse thanks ;)

http://www.advrider.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=188712&stc=1&d=1221391600
...No school like Old School!:Punk:



ps...yes...it probly broke the earth on landing :laugh:

[JimmyC]

Great to have some news on this machine finally. If the F800GS doesn't go ride by wire for the 2016 model, there'll likely be a new Honda in my garage for Christmas.

[cynna]

damn. im going to have to turn gay and get one of these to replace the tenere

[Scubbo]

angrybirds headlights look good

[MrKiwi]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=27&v=l0dSLEtkEBY

DCT, promises to very interesting. There are three versions, standard with no ABS, an ABS version and then a DCT version with ABS.

[cynna]

and doesnt look like we are getting the black model here yet :no:

http://go.hondamotorbikes.co.nz/Africa-Twin-Registration.html

[BMWST?]

piddling 18 .8 l tank.Will be just enough i guess .hope a 300 k range is attainableAny info on price yet

[BMWST?]

Hope the price will be around $20k to compete with the DL1000 Suzuki. If it matches it for comfort and stopping power plus has better low down torque I could be keen assuming the seat is no higher.
seat height is quoted at either 870 or 850...looks narrow but who knows.Seat height wont be an issue for me

[HenryDorsetCase]

Yet another 250kg behemoth with a 38 inch saddle height. Fuck.

Yes, I can't sit on any ADV bike let alone a bloody trail bike.

:(

[pete-blen]

Yet another 250kg behemoth with a 38 inch saddle height. Fuck.

Yes, I can't sit on any ADV bike let alone a bloody trail bike.

:(

hell I'm not tall... 165cm.... you must have
some stumpy landing gear...

[HenryDorsetCase]

hell I'm not tall... 165cm.... you must have
some stumpy landing gear...

163cm and 28 inch inseam...... and old man back and inflexibility issues.

:(

[BMWST?]

i can flat foot a r100 gspd

[pete-blen]

163cm and 28 inch inseam...... and old man back and inflexibility issues.

:(

mate ..... I think the real prob is yer top 4"...

[AllanB]

163cm and 28 inch inseam...... and old man back and inflexibility issues.

:(

Ah - obviously a misspent youth in the porn industry is now taking it's toll in mid life .....

[Tazz]

163cm and 28 inch inseam...... and old man back and inflexibility issues.

:(

Oh man, you are so, so close to legally being a midget.

You must get away running around playgrounds without many sideways glances. Sweet! :laugh:

[pritch]

From my reading, it's basically an auto transmission (with different modes) or you can run it as a clutchless manual (with buttons for shifting).

It's a few years since I tried it but that about sums it up.

MotoGP rights holders Dorna banned Dual Clutch Technology because they thought it would introduce added expense when they were trying to reduce the cost of racing. So Honda invented the vastly more expensive seamless gearbox and now everybody else wants one.

There is a field of study "The unintended consequences of management decisions". Dorna's dual clutch rule could provide a case study.

[nerrrd]

I know a lot of people don't really rate this guy, but here's the first of three reviews done locally.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/motoring/bikes/77153445/hondas-africa-twin-tour-blowin-away-the-dust

[Tazz]

Ahh, saw2 of those 3 parked up on High St in Picton last week or the week before. Looked like one of them had been racing through wee puddles XD

Didn't realise the 90's were several decades ago though. Feeling old now.

[BMWST?]

old nails.....thats sure to make honda happy

[nerrrd]

Another instalment:

http://www.stuff.co.nz/motoring/bikes/77854090/africa-twin-tour-does-an-adv-really-need-a-clutch-lever

[nerrrd]

And another:

http://www.stuff.co.nz/motoring/bikes/78375917/honda-africa-twin-tour-the-gismofree-model

[Scubbo]

:drool: really wouldn't mind one --- lotto numbers never come up though :girlfight:

[TLDV8]

It was a surprise to see they look to be cheaper here in Australia, will try and get a test ride on a DCT model.
Have watched plenty of 'You Tube video's and it looks to be a bike perfect for the outback, dirt road or tar seal.
AU$19440 ride away here including the high on road costs.

$16875 - Base.
$18410 - ABS.
$19440 - DCT - ABS

[eldog]

that there is a worldwide shortage of Africa Twins due to demand plus factory damage in the recent Japanese earthquake. So expect a long wait if you want to buy now.
Why wait there's plenty of twins in Africa.......

do you work for a Blue Wing dealer?

[Laava]

that there is a worldwide shortage of Africa Twins due to demand plus factory damage in the recent Japanese earthquake. So expect a long wait if you want to buy now.

That is a very cunning sales ploy!

[AllanB]

Yes, was at the Honda/Ducati dealer this morning. Shortage of them - their demo ride is in hot demand. Nice looking bike for that type.

Nicer looking Ducatis ..... :innocent:

[TLDV8]

Just off the phone and told on its way from Victoria arriving next week in its crate . :woohoo:

It seems there are no real upgrades for the 2017 model (only rumours, spokes, cruise control ? based on the internet) and at least a March ++ wait here in Australia for availability.

[R650R]

Just off the phone and told on its way from Victoria arriving next week in its crate . :woohoo:

It seems there are no real upgrades for the 2017 model (only rumours, spokes, cruise control ? based on the internet) and at least a March ++ wait here in Australia for availability.

There's a new solid candy red colour but as to which markets get it....

[TLDV8]

There is black also.
Bike arrived and was assembled, they will register it in the new year as I head back to work next week.
A good start for 2017.

[Scubbo]

getting better all round in 2018 (atleast the new "SPORT" model is)

http://www.cyclenews.com/2017/11/article/2018-honda-africa-twin-adventure-sport-first-look/

[R650R]

getting better all round in 2018 (atleast the new "SPORT" model is)

http://www.cyclenews.com/2017/11/article/2018-honda-africa-twin-adventure-sport-first-look/

Only thing is they have made it heavier at same time. Really like this bike and that new colour too.
Not sure that size fuel tank is really needed for NZ riding.
Waiting till a decent aftermarket fairing/plastic tank option becomes available and affordable. Watched few youtube vids of the excruciating process to access simple things like air filter and battery.

[MarkH]

Spotted a DCT model at Honda Hamilton the other day:

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Then I spotted the same bike at home in my garage:

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I'm really loving the DCT, works really well! For super sporty mode you can use S3 and then dab with the left thumb on the gear-down button whenever you want it to be in a lower gear. With full throttle the 6-speed transmission will change from 3rd to 4th at 140kph, that's plenty sporty enough IMO.

[Scubbo]

nice one! :Punk:

[R650R]

Nice Mark... be interesting to hear your thoughts going straight from DR650... leaning more to the ktm 1090 r myself for next bike....

[MarkH]

Nice Mark... be interesting to hear your thoughts going straight from DR650... leaning more to the ktm 1090 r myself for next bike....

There are similarities. I was running an 18" rear wheel & 21" front wheel on the DR, no change there. The riding position isn't all that different when going from a dual sport like the DR to an adventure bike like the AT.

Obviously it is much heavier - well, you would think this would be obvious, but it isn't. The Africa Twin doesn't feel obviously heavier than the DR650 to ride. Mind you, I haven't dropped it, I suspect it would feel obviously heavier to pick up. Maybe the trick is to not drop it, I'll see if I can try that.

The AT does feel more powerful and also more refined. There is a decent amount of power there, even if you are already over the open road speed limit. If you are at 80kph in 6th gear, you can use your left thumb on the down-shift button - dab, dab, dab, twist (with right wrist) and you are pretty quickly sailing past that mobile obstacle. The AT is capable of exceeding 200kph, the DR650 isn't.

My magnetic tank bag works great with the AT, damn thing wouldn't stick to the Acerbis tank on my DR! :lol:

The brakes work a LOT better! Twin front disks & ABS on the AT, you can really feel the stopping power!

The AT really does feel like a proper off-road capable road bike. In comparison the DR650 feels like a farm bike that you are riding on the road.

[Scubbo]

what sort of mileage are you getting from the tank (or should I say kilometerage)

[MarkH]

what sort of mileage are you getting from the tank (or should I say kilometerage)

It all depends on the right wrist. But it isn't hard to get 5.5 - 6.0 litres per 100km so the 18.8L tank is good for over 300km range. Riding fairly sanely (unlike how I do it) and getting 5.5km per 100L - you would expect ~340km on a tank.

The bike does have a fuel gauge, economy readout & once the fuel is low an estimated distance remaining comes up on the display. Running out of fuel shouldn't be something that an Africa Twin rider experiences.

[MarkH]

I have been farking up my AT. I've just fitted a pair of Oxford Hot Grips (Premium Touring Edition are the right size without needing to cut them down) and wired up a USB socket with QC3 (faster charging on the cellphone). I've also fitted the Outback Motortek crash bars, engine guards and skid plate - much better protection for the bike. I have an SW Motech top plate with Givi Monokey adapter kit which has allowed me to mount my E-55 Maxia top box that I had been using on the ST1300. I've changed the foot pegs to Black Dog foot pegs, much better size for my size 10.5 boots. I've also fitted a Rox Riser adjustable handlebar riser - much more comfortable both for sitting and for standing. I have an Outex kit to fit front and rear, planning on tackling that today. I have an Eastern Beaver PC-8 on the way, that should be easy enough to install.

Now I have to wait another two weeks for my next fortnight's pay so I can buy more stuff. It will take a few pays before I am able to buy the pannier set I want - US$1100 for the rack and 40L/36L panniers + shipping + GST once it arrives = over NZ$2k, YIKES!

I've run ~1,100km so far and the bike has had its first (1,000km) service, now it should be good until it hits 12,000km and needs the 2nd service. Unfortunately I'll have to wait until February 2019 for my next 4 week holiday and the SI trip down to the Burt Munro with multiple side trips to see more of the SI that I haven't been to before. But there should be a few shorter trips in the mean time.

[pete376403]

I saw something on Facebook about AT wheel spokes corroding. Aren't they stainless steel?

[nzspokes]

I saw something on Facebook about AT wheel spokes corroding. Aren't they stainless steel?No. Thats why they fail.

Sent from my M5 Note using Tapatalk

[Coldrider]

No. Thats why they fail.

Sent from my M5 Note using Tapatalk2018 edition have stainless spokes, but they are not released yet.Throttle by wire but no criuse control, more sport modes, and a little engine fettling, and a adventure sports model with a bigger tank.

[meerkatships]

2018 edition have stainless spokes, but they are not released yet.Throttle by wire but no criuse control, more sport modes, and a little engine fettling, and a adventure sports model with a bigger tank.

Too many unnecessary things if you ask me

[BMWST?]

I have been farking up my AT.
I presume you mean farkling .How tall are you Mark.Dya find any trouble with wind noise/buffeting of the screen?Seriusly considering oe of these

[MarkH]

I presume you mean farkling .How tall are you Mark.Dya find any trouble with wind noise/buffeting of the screen?Seriusly considering oe of these

Oops, yep, I meant farkling. My list just keeps growing:
Eastern Beaver PC8
Oxford Touring Edition Hot Grips
Outback Motortek Engine Guards
Outback Motortek Crash Bars
Outback Motortek Skid Plate
Accessory socket in default location
USB with QC3.0 & Voltmeter & Ampmeter x 2 in mount attached to middle of handlebars
Outex kit for front & back wheels, no tubes!
Mitas 150/70/18 tyre on rear
TKC80 90/90/21 tyre on front
SW Motech Steel top plate
SW Motech Givi Monokey adapter kit
Givi E55 Maxia top box
MotoCentric Mototrek 7 Tank Bag (magnetic)
Black Dog foot pegs
OEM Centre Stand
Rox Risers 2" Pivot Bar Riser
Ram Mounts ball x 2
Batzen Adjustable Windscreen Risers
Where's Zed Headlight protectors
Hepco & Becker Handguards
SAE connector under seat
Tankslapper clear tank protector
Bumot Defender Rack & Panniers 40L/36L (the middle size option)
Tuturo Automatic Chain Oiler

I'm around 5'11", the standard screen height is a little low but I've adjusted it higher with the Batzen Adjustable Windscreen Risers.
I just fitted the Turoro oiler a couple of weeks ago, working great and really nice getting home and not having to think about lubing the chain.
I'm currently trying to decide the best way to set up a connector so I can jump start the bike without having to get access to the battery, the battery is hard to get to and you can't bump start a DCT bike.

I bought the bike just after a 4 week holiday at the end of summer. This means that I won't do a really huge amount of riding until next summer when I'm taking 5 weeks off work so I can head to the South Island for Bike Week, Vincent County Rally & Burt Munro Rally - plus some touring about. But I have been out for a few rides and run up approaching 4,000 kilometres. I'm really enjoying the bike and find it great on the tarmac and on the gravel. I think it will prove to be a good choice for touring/exploring/moto-camping/etc. I'll be down at the Cold Kiwi again this year, looking forward to checking out their new site and hoping it is much better than the Horopito site.

Last weekend I spent a couple of nights in Hastings:

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Good weekend, even if a little frosty on Saturday morning:

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I did get lousy fuel economy, but it was a fun ride (315km each way + some riding around). Changing down a couple of gears and opening the throttle makes short work of overtaking which is handy when you have limited opportunities on the Taupo-Napier highway.

[Scubbo]

looks great Mark, thats a lot of farkall --- glad to see its being ridden too!

[MarkH]

glad to see its being ridden too!

It'll get ridden more in summer, especially with a ~4 week SI trip planned. I'm looking at Bike Week, Vincent County Rally & Burt Munro Rally in Jan/Feb 2019. It should be a great summer on this bike!

[R650R]

Glad you survived camping in the feral part of hastings lol. PM me if your in town again... Good camp at bayview right by sea that would have been less frosty and safer lol....

Should get the full termi system for it tho :)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UC0CrXRX9RQ

[R650R]

Honda what have you done!!!!

The Africa Twin was starting to look like an option. A more sensible 19” front wheel for the more road biased adventure sports with its bigger tank. And they found another 7nm of torque lower down.

But for 2024 it will ONLY be available with the DCT transmission. I know they did good job of it but it’s just something else that can break and no clutch for slow speed moves. Deal breaker sorry .

I guess they’ve done their market research on whose buying their bikes I guess….