Andrew Little or John Key?

[Stylo]

Ponytails aside ...

I guess anything's better for the country than Shipley, Bolger or ( drumroll ) ......

Helen Clark.

Who'd make the best Pm if there was a hypothetical election in a months time ?

[5ive]

The one with the least worst policies.

[puddytat]

Hone.......

[mashman]

Akzle for PM.

[Voltaire]

" Go ahead Andrew...make my day"
http://thedailyblog.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/p20_Tim-Pankhurst-column-Judith-Collins-gun.jpg

I like PM's with guns
" Go ahead Adolf..make my day"
http://www.odcmp.org/0108/images/CarbineImg/Churchill.jpg

[caseye]

No contest.
Little wants a republic, least ol JK only wants a new flag.
Fuck him!
No to the new flag and fuck off from our hard won progress Little, you know not how to govern.
And won't into the next election either.

[McWild]

Lets just give Winston a shot already, for his persistence if nothing else.



I mean don't get me wrong, I like foreigners I'm left leaning and I'm not living in a retirement village but the man seems to really want it you know?

[Voltaire]

No contest.
Little wants a republic, least ol JK only wants a new flag.
Fuck him!
No to the new flag and fuck off from our hard won progress Little, you know not how to govern.
And won't into the next election either.


Becoming a republic and changing the flag at the same time would be cheaper to do at one time.

Whist not being a great fan of the royal family I can imagine we would keep the Westminister system and and have a

President like Ireland.....now I'd rather have the Queen as head of state than some former National/labour crony.

Great that we have a PM who made his money 'gambling' back in the heady mid 80's. The man can't even bang a nail in.

He is totally out of touch with " your average Kiwi"

I would have thought Andrew Little being a former union man would be making more of scene about the 'Zero Hours' which

is just wrong and how we have lots of immigration yet over 5% unemployed.

I think the party system is just so outdated.

have interviews and pick the best people for the job.....like how working class is David Cunniliffe....lives in friggin Herne Bay.

We could run it like American Idol where we all get to vote them off :innocent:

[Paul in NZ]

Lets just give Winston a shot already, for his persistence if nothing else.



There would be a not so orderly queue formed to give him a shot... several shots most likely... I mean you would need to make sure as the first few might ricochet off his hair or teeth... Anyway - can gunfire actually kill zombies?

[willytheekid]

You blind fuckers vote John 4 china back in again...Im possibly going to hunt you down, shove you in a shoe box and post your arse to fucking china!(See how you like Johns "vision" from over there!):laugh:

...a vote for John is a vote for china, TPPA, large Corps and selling out our country and its assets to the higest bidder.

You REALLY want to make a difference?...how about making some god damn noise over NOT having a vote of no confidence!...look it up, find out why it was removed, and then ask...is it a TRUE democratic election with out it...cos being FORCED to vote for the shinest of two turds is getting us no where.

over 1/4 of the population couldn't force themselves to vote last time...how many will it be this time with out any real options to vote on.


https://paneladeprata.files.wordpress.com/2013/06/revolution-the-time-is-now1.jpg

you gonna step up!...or just keep keep getting stepped on!<_<...your call NZ


Lets face it...all the parties are in it for themselves and there "party contributors"...not the regular Kiwi!

[5ive]

Cool mask, so edgy.

[mashman]

Same shit different flag. Amusing that one should be preferred over another given there'll be no change in outcome for any serious issues that need to be addressed.

[Voltaire]

Cool mask, so edgy.

Yeah...reminds me of a movie I saw once.

I suppose you could call the whole flag debate a 'False Flag" distraction.:rolleyes:

[Brett]

JK's all good IMO. Not perfect, but who is. There is no one better to replace him at the moment. Little is a numpty with less skill to run this country than half of the kids in high school these days. Even though I am an environmentalist, I find the Greens to be a joke. Act...one man party who seem to live with their head in another world. Labour = too socialist, who will pay for all of their promises and wants? Winston = entertaining to watch but honestly probably not someone who would ever represent us well. Mana = racist rednecks, Maori = only represent a small portion of the nation. United Future = probably my second vote after National.

I am more interested in why Pants Down Brown is still in office.

[Shaun Harris]

Labour will NEVER get back in with Little as the man, he is way to much from the old school of Kiwi;s as such, and talks like a labourer, not an educated serious business person

[Gadget1]

JK's all good IMO. Not perfect, but who is. There is no one better to replace him at the moment. Little is a numpty with less skill to run this country than half of the kids in high school these days. Even though I am an environmentalist, I find the Greens to be a joke. Act...one man party who seem to live with their head in another world. Labour = too socialist, who will pay for all of their promises and wants? Winston = entertaining to watch but honestly probably not someone who would ever represent us well. Mana = racist rednecks, Maori = only represent a small portion of the nation. United Future = probably my second vote after National.

I am more interested in why Pants Down Brown is still in office.


Heh, if JK isn't perfect, he can't be all good then. They're all ratbags.

As for Brown, there's no recall legislation that enables getting rid of him.

[Murray]

Heh, if JK isn't perfect, he can't be all good then. They're all ratbags.


Look what he's done to the Blues rugby team!!!

Yep John Kirwan (JK) for PM - He should be available

[Oscar]

Cool mask, so edgy.

...and stupid. Guido Fawkes may have been planning to blow up Westminister, but his motives were anything but liberal.
He wanted James (who by comtempory standards was very inclusive) dead and replaced by a catholic monarch, which would have caused another round of bloody repression. Burning at the stakes, anyone?

[Gadget1]

Look what he's done to the Blues rugby team!!!

Yep John Kirwan (JK) for PM - He should be available


Lol, now we're combining sports with politics. Next it'll be religion.

[mada]

Labour will NEVER get back in with Little as the man, he is way to much from the old school of Kiwi;s as such, and talks like a labourer, not an educated serious business person

Here's how educated businessmen run countrys

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=11448155

:Punk:

Country should be run by Natalia Kills

[Oscar]

Labour will NEVER get back in with Little as the man, he is way to much from the old school of Kiwi;s as such, and talks like a labourer, not an educated serious business person

Little is the Union face of a party formed by the working man, but now run by women in sensible shoes.
He is a ghost from the past, trying to front an organisation that has no idea who or what it stands for.


Key looks done.
He's become used to power and arrogant, but much worse he's now accident prone.

[mada]

Little is the Union face of a party formed by the working man, but now run by women in sensible shoes.
He is a ghost from the past, trying to front an organisation that has no idea who or what it stands for.


Key looks done.
He's become used to power and arrogant, but much worse he's now accident prone.

The problem with Labour is that they cant make up their minds whether they stand for neo-liberalism or socialism-lite and either way they go they get chastised as being one or the other.

Key on the other hand cottoned on that people prefer the friendly car salesman who makes a quick buck, to someone who may work hard and make long lasting decisions.

[MisterD]

The problem with Labour is that they cant make up their minds whether they stand for neo-liberalism or socialism-lite and either way they go they get chastised as being one or the other.

They're both socialism-lite, people choose the blue version because they prefer to have a governing party that at least argues with itself in private, and if it's going to have policy written by its mates, they prefer employers and farmers to be doing the writing over the teaching unions and the EPMU.



Key on the other hand cottoned on that people prefer the friendly car salesman who makes a quick buck, to someone who may work hard and make long lasting decisions.

The only time either party looks further than the next election is when they're trying to come up with policy that the other lot can't repeal without pain...

Working for other peoples' families anyone? That wasn't about sensible coherent policy for the country, that was about trying to make the middle classes into Labour-voting beneficiaries.

[Brett]

Heh, if JK isn't perfect, he can't be all good then. They're all ratbags.

As for Brown, there's no recall legislation that enables getting rid of him.


Haha...using the "all good" Kiwi colloquialism of course.

Brown - yes there is, a no confidence vote.

[Brett]

Look what he's done to the Blues rugby team!!!

Yep John Kirwan (JK) for PM - He should be available

Shit... I was talking about Jonny Knoxville. :crazy:

[Gadget1]

Haha...using the "all good" Kiwi colloquialism of course.

Brown - yes there is, a no confidence vote.

"No problem" there Brett.

My understanding is the vote of no confidence failed. Because there is no recall legislation, unlike in the USA for example, Brown can't be fired as Mayor.

Nothing short of a conviction for a major crime or being declared insane will get rid of him.

[mada]

They're both socialism-lite, people choose the blue version because they prefer to have a governing party that at least argues with itself in private, and if it's going to have policy written by its mates, they prefer employers and farmers to be doing the writing over the teaching unions and the EPMU.



The only time either party looks further than the next election is when they're trying to come up with policy that the other lot can't repeal without pain...

Working for other peoples' families anyone? That wasn't about sensible coherent policy for the country, that was about trying to make the middle classes into Labour-voting beneficiaries.

WFF was Labours solution to alleviating the growing levels of child poverty (many of the families whom are actually working ones) and with the housing prices bubble that was occurring under their watch - something was needed.

Labour should've tackled the housing investment problem when it started cropping its head and WFF would largely not be needed. Instead now, most Middle Class families would be on the bones of their arses without it - which is why Key wont take it way.

[oldrider]

Andrew Little or John Key? - Claytons and Hobson's choice - Tweedledee or Tweedledumer! :scratch:

About as different as Matchless and AJS motorcycles were - only far less interesting I.E. http://www.classic-british-motorcycles.com/matchless-motorcycles.html :whistle:

[SPman]

Nuke the Beehive when parliament's in session! Then hold a new election and shoot all the new candidates in the head - just above the beak, and let it be known that that fate will befall any other arseholes who contest politics for the power trip!

Then hold new elections............:apumpin:

When we have a party who actually have the health, wealth and happiness of the population as a whole as a priority, over the wellbeing of a select few, then it may be worthwhile considering who is the better prime minister!

Until then, Fuck'eml!

They are both mainly useless fucking scumbags!

[Swoop]

Nuke the Beehive when parliament's in session!
Your plan has holes in it. The radioactive fallout will cleanse the entirety of Wellytown for hundreds of years (not an entirely bad plan really...) meaning that the population will have to leafe for a few generations.
My suggestion is that we send them all to Westport, to aid the flagging economy down there.



As for Little Andrew... :rofl:

[Gadget1]

My suggestion is that we send them all to Westport, to aid the flagging economy down there.


Noooo! The people of Westport have suffered enough.

[Banditbandit]

Look what he's done to the Blues rugby team!!!

Yep John Kirwan (JK) for PM - He should be available

Yes .. he can handle the depression ...

[Oscar]

...and here we have the type of fucktardry that ensures that your next Govt. will not be a Labour one:


The Labour Party could end up voting on the policy for free gender reassignment surgery after the idea was passed at two regional party conferences.

Labour's general secretary Tim Barnett said the proposal came from Young Labour, who want to ensure there's access to hormone replacement therapy and gender reassignment surgery and that it's publicly funded.


http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/68670002/sex-change-surgery-policy-nutty

Good news for Axzle I suppose...

[Banditbandit]

No contest.
Little wants a republic, least ol JK only wants a new flag.
Fuck him!
No to the new flag and fuck off from our hard won progress Little, you know not how to govern.
And won't into the next election either.

You want to be Governed ???? Shit .. why give away your freedoms .. even the US of A doesn't have a government - they have an executive.

Why do we need to be "Governed" ???

[Banditbandit]

Noooo! The people of Westport have suffered enough.

:rofl: "You must spread ..."

[caseye]

You want to be Governed ???? Shit .. why give away your freedoms .. even the US of A doesn't have a government - they have an executive.

Why do we need to be "Governed" ???

You! know what I mean, ok govern might be too liberal a word for it, but let me put it this way. Run NZ? andrew ( little boy spelling) run NZ in anything like a confident and positive way, sorry BB but that just ain't going to happen, he's out of his depth now. I am no great fan of JK either, but if you asked me to pick one of em to be NZ's next PM it just couldn't be a hand wringing, whinging, sniveling (it's always the gov'ts fault) fool like al.

[AllanB]

Snap election? KEY all day long. Little has been impressing lately (surprising me as I have a hang up seeing him spouting off union crap for years) so IF and it is a BIG IF he can consolidate his party strongly behind him, and stop them spouting off the cuff silly possible policies he may be in for the run come election year.

Right now - nah - too soon after the horrid defeat of the party he is the face of.


Plus I have a secret thing for pony-tails .........

[oldrider]

Every little half issue (pretend news) - TV1 have Labour give their response to it before any other party individual whatever gets a say - where are their loyalties? :lol:

[Banditbandit]

You! know what I mean, ok govern might be too liberal a word for it,

Yeah .. I did know what you meant - do you see what I mean as well?


but let me put it this way. Run NZ? andrew ( little boy spelling) run NZ in anything like a confident and positive way, sorry BB but that just ain't going to happen, he's out of his depth now.

I agree ... Little's not going to be a good frontman at all ... However, I want more than a good frontman in a PM.


I am no great fan of JK either, but if you asked me to pick one of em to be NZ's next PM it just couldn't be a hand wringing, whinging, sniveling (it's always the gov'ts fault) fool like al.

JK's fucked up with the blues - why make him PM :whistle:

I can't see a single politico in parliament that I could accept as PM. Now, I don't know them ALL that well - but if someone's PM material we should all see it. They should stand out - and they don't.

I can see past great leaders on both sides of the political spectrum - I don't see any now.

[Voltaire]

If electing Govts were like choosing a car, there a loads of good cars but only a Viva and Marina for sale.....and a Morrris 1100.