I need some advice on pain management

[willytheekid]

Hi all :wavey:

Was hoping some of my fellow aging/crippled Kbers could give me some advice on pain management :pinch:

Im kinda...struggling presently, the body is starting to really hurt from many years of stupidity/abuse and repeat drunk drivers trying to hump me while riding.
I have two shot knees, blown shoulder, collapsed neck, lower back problems and nerve damage in my left arm, to name just a few issues(yes!, I have a few "issues"....ya bastards!)...and every winter the pain gets worse!

Last winter was hell!, barely able to walk with out pain, struggling to ride long distance with out constant stops to ease the pain and locked knees etc and generally aching constantly.

My Charlotte is hounding me to go to the Docs again...but last time they wanted to throw me into surgury for a shoulder AC rebuild!:crazy: (And these usually DONT work out too well)...the knees, ACC have shafted me on (waited 8yrs for surgery on both...got key hole on one and told to shove off basically)

So can anyone share there thoughts or recommendations please...anyone else on pain management on here?...and the biggy, will I still be able to still do my job and have a converstaion etc with out drooling and being in lala land while on meds etc (Pills kick my arse!...hate em!...but if I have too...i will take them:weep:)

Im bloody dreading this winter...the body is already struggling with the cooler weather...So any advice would be friggin awesome

(Yeah yeah, Asking Kbers before Doctors?...WTF am I thinking!:facepalm:)

[5150]

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[willytheekid]

Perfect for pain management ;)

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LOL...so its round the back of the barn "BLAM!" for me huh (feels that way in the mornings)

[TheDemonLord]

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[Zedder]

Hi all :wavey:

Was hoping some of my fellow aging/crippled Kbers could give me some advice on pain management :pinch:

Im kinda...struggling presently, the body is starting to really hurt from many years of stupidity/abuse and repeat drunk drivers trying to hump me while riding.
I have two shot knees, blown shoulder, collapsed neck, lower back problems and nerve damage in my left arm, to name just a few issues...and every winter the pain gets worse!

Last winter was hell!, barely able to walk with out pain, struggling to ride long distance with out constant stops to ease the pain and locked knees etc and generally aching constantly.

My Charlotte is hounding me to go to the Docs again...but last time they wanted to throw me into surgury for a shoulder AC rebuild!:crazy: (And these usually DONT work out too well)...the knees, ACC have shafted me on (waited 8yrs for surgery on both...got key hole on one and told to shove off basically)

So can anyone share there thoughts or recommendations please...anyone else on pain management on here?...and the biggy, will I still be able to still do my job and have a converstaion etc with out drooling and being in lala land while on meds etc (Pills kick my arse!...hate em!...but if I have too...i will take them:weep:)

Im bloody dreading this winter...the body is already struggling with the cooler weather...So any advice would be friggin awesome

(Yeah yeah, Asking Kbers before Doctors?...WTF am I thinking!:facepalm:)

My dear old granny swears by acupuncture, heat and glucosamine sulphate supplements.

[caspernz]

Depends on your line of work of course...but cannabis and vaporiser...works for some folks.

[carbonhed]

Ketamine. No you won't be interested in talking much but that's overrated anyway... you may sing quietly to yourself instead.

[mashman]

The Bahamas, by yourself, for six months of every year.

[willytheekid]

My dear old granny swears by acupuncture, heat and glucosamine sulphate supplements.

Nice!, many thanks...just read up on glucosamine sulphate, might try some of that :yes:

[willytheekid]

Ketamine. No you won't be interested in talking much but that's overrated anyway... you may sing quietly to yourself instead.

LOL, I struggle keeping a clear head on Nurofen!...can just see me on that stuff at work

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[Tazz]

Might be easier to list what's not fawked on you :laugh:

I wear those el cheapo neoprene braces or even just some thick slip over bandages on my shitty knees on long winter rides to keep em warm, sleeping sometimes too. Locked knees are fun when you come to stick your leg out at a stop eh!

You can get wireless heated thermals that you control with your phone as well (for skiing originally, so not cumbersome). Don't need those yet myself but they would be well more effective than the plug in ones, so long as you remember to charge them ;)

[PrincessBandit]

LOL, I struggle keeping a clear head on Nurofen!...can just see me on that stuff at work



Hahaha, I was going to suggest having a few of the critters in the image (which I deleted before Hitcher gets me again for forgetting to delete embedded images) to sit on you in strategically placed position and purr and sing to you. Let their feline vibrations do their healing work (and can give you a free acupuncture session while they're at it if they are feeling particularly loving towards you).

[FJRider]

Hi all :wavey:

Was hoping some of my fellow aging/crippled Kbers could give me some advice on pain management :pinch:

Im kinda...struggling presently, the body is starting to really hurt from many years of stupidity/abuse and repeat drunk drivers trying to hump me while riding.
I have two shot knees, blown shoulder, collapsed neck, lower back problems and nerve damage in my left arm, to name just a few issues(yes!, I have a few "issues"....ya bastards!)...and every winter the pain gets worse!



I use not pain killers ... but anti - Inflamitory medication.

It won't cure the problems .. but will help.

[Grumph]

How are you sleeping ? The shoulder, neck and lower back problems may well make a bed bloody uncomfortable. Lying on the shoulder wouldn't help either..

For many years I've had back problems but for the last couple of years i've slept in a chair. Yes it reclines but often i have it upright - much to our cats displeasure princess...Being in a chair can help quite a bit in my experience.

I'd also recommend seeing your GP as not all reconstructive surgery is ACC. If it's bad enough they will eventually do it.

[Grumph]

I use not pain killers ... but anti - Inflamitory medication.

It won't cure the problems .. but will help.

Been there used those, got the bowel bleeds and shot kidneys as lasting by products.

[Flip]

Tramadol works for me.

Isoprofen from the doctor not the expensive chemist rubbish helps reduce swelling. It is juat a bit rough on an empty stomach.

I cant take codine at all as I don't metobalise it at all and strong voltaren stops me up as well.

[nodrog]

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[Voltaire]

I use not pain killers ... but anti - Inflamitory medication.

It won't cure the problems .. but will help.

+1, voltaren 75mg is my anti inflammatory of choice, makes osteoarthritis almost bearable. Getting so bad buying an electric start conversion for the Commando.:innocent:

I tried that glucosamine a couple of years back, kept me awake like a Wandsworth Road MSG curry of the 90's.

[Madness]

I find that Naprogesic works a treat for back pain and makes my periods more manageable.

[pete376403]

My wife has pretty much constant back pain, and she says one of these offers a good amount of pain relief http://hidow.co.nz/index.php/devices.html/

[swarfie]

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Glucosamine and Chondroitin tabs do help my rooted knee (no anteria crusiate? ligament for the last 42 years:facepalm:) but the trouble is if I stop using them it seems to be worse than before I started using them....bastards have you hooked for life I guess:angry2:

I hate taking serious pain killers and anti-inflammatory tabs can be pretty hard on your guts like Grumph says. Getting old with too many past serious injuries sucks and it's only going to get worse. At least I'm still riding and racing...a good reason to concrete truck it I'd say:shutup:

[Akzle]

smoke weed nigga.



But srsly.
You want a quack to work through it with you. Depending on the cause, i recomend, GET FUKEN HEALTHY, followed by STAY ACTIVE, then, low dose long term diclofenac, and/or opiates (codeine, morphine, heroin) there are reported negative efx, addiction being one, and constipation another, neither of which affect me. (insert 'full of shit' joke)

but yeah. Git r quack to discuss with. Never take paracetamol, avoid ibuprofen, dont take aspirin for pain.
Smoke weed nigga.

[FJRider]

+1, voltaren 75mg is my anti inflammatory of choice, makes osteoarthritis almost bearable. Getting so bad buying an electric start conversion for the Commando.:innocent:



You need to take it with food or it will rip your guts ... but it works. I pill twice daily is all I need.

[Akzle]

lsd would work at low doses. Mdma shouldnt be taken long term.

[Ender EnZed]

I recommend a healthy dose of functional alcoholism.

[Jin]

Any tips on how to not end up with all these kinds of pains?

[FJRider]

Any tips on how to not end up with all these kinds of pains?

Don't get out of bed.

[Edbear]

Ketamine. No you won't be interested in talking much but that's overrated anyway... you may sing quietly to yourself instead.

Ketamine is evil! I was on it in ICU but despite that I lived. Took days afterwards to stop hallucinating...


Tramadol works for me.

Isoprofen from the doctor not the expensive chemist rubbish helps reduce swelling. It is juat a bit rough on an empty stomach.

I cant take codine at all as I don't metobalise it at all and strong voltaren stops me up as well.

Tramadol is the reason I can stand up. No noticeable side effects for me but it's bad news for some.

Definitely ask your Doctor and see if you can get a referral to the Pain Clinic.

[Gadget1]

Don't get out of bed.


Don't do anything more strenuous than playing golf...

[FJRider]

Don't do anything more strenuous than playing golf...

That involves WALKING ... right .. ??? :pinch:

[FJRider]

Definitely ask your Doctor and see if you can get a referral to the Pain Clinic.


Soak the body in alcohol ... Drug and Alcohol clinics ar cheaper to visit ... :shifty:

[Voltaire]

You need to take it with food or it will rip your guts ... but it works. I pill twice daily is all I need.

True, I'm only once every few days unless I'm on my feet all day doing 'clipboard jockey' work.

Getting old sucks, but it beats the alternative.

[Gadget1]

That involves WALKING ... right .. ??? :pinch:


The effects can be reduced dramatically by the use of a golf cart.

[willytheekid]

"You have given out too much Reputation in the last 24 hours, try again later."





...damnit!:facepalm: (I wanted to rep you all)




Thank you all so much for the awesome feed back and (surprisingly! :laugh:) good advice, you have all answered my question/query so bloody well :2thumbsup (pffft, see a doctor she said<_<...and wot is KB for??:blink:)

...but as usual...I think my Charlotte is right...its time for a vet visit:pinch:

I have noted down the many many awesome options and ideas provided, and will go see the Vet and talk about a possible mix of pain killers and anti inflammatory treatment options, as it seems like there so many choices available....it just might be wise to have the pro's check whats left of me over to ensure the right solution to my many problems...(Shut up Nodrog!:laugh:)

Ive just been so busy with work, kids, getting into our 1st home and life in general, that Ive just been putting up with the constant pain and tryin to ignore the worsening symptoms while I focus on everything but my own health!...but its finally reached a point where I simply can't put up with it anymore:wacko:, we were already looking at getting an exercise machine for the garage (cos Im soooo unfit nowadays lol), but Ive got so many major injury's that I have to be careful with the exercise thing, so I dont actually do more damage than good, But I'm thinking with the advice provided, a gentle mix of exercise and Vet prescribed pain management/Anti-inflammatory treatments I should see some improvements to get me through another winter.

...Again, thank you all so much for the advice and for providing me with options and ideas to approach the Vet with to discuss...you guys n girls fuckin rock!!:Punk:


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[FJRider]

The effects can be reduced dramatically by the use of a golf cart.

True ... but those clubs ARE heavy.


And that swing to hit that useless excuse for a ball ... then go chase it yourself ... ??? :eek:


Trust me ... :innocent: ... stay in bed.

[Moi]

...I'm soooo unfit nowadays lol), but Ive got so many major injury's that I have to be careful with the exercise thing, so I dont actually do more damage than good...

For exercise, see what the local pool offers in water exercise... those exercises you do in the water to support the bod but exercise the bits 'n' pieces...

[carbonhed]

Ketamine is evil! I was on it in ICU but despite that I lived. Took days afterwards to stop hallucinating...


Ketamine is spectacular! When I broke my clavicle and scapula and they'd given me all the morphine they felt they safely could they stopped the ambulance and, I believe, a vet administered the ketamine... no fucking problemo from there on in. In fact when they were trying to get the perfect xray of the shoulder the tech managed to crack me across the back of the skull with the fucking camera and even that didn't bother me at all... reeeeally strong. Very strange too... and not something I'd want to recreationally abuse :eek5:

[FJRider]

...damnit!:facepalm: (I wanted to rep you all)


Me first ... :innocent:


Thank you all so much for the awesome feed back and (surprisingly! :laugh:) good advice, you have all answered my question/query so bloody well :2thumbsup (pffft, see a doctor she said<_<...and wot is KB for??:blink:)

The answers to the questions you didn't ask ... we'll cover later in the thread .. ;)


...but as usual...I think my Charlotte is right...its time for a vet visit:pinch:

Don't ya hate it when they're right ... :sunny:


I have noted down the many many awesome options and ideas provided, and will go see the Vet and talk about a possible mix of pain killers and anti inflammatory treatment options, as it seems like there so many choices available....it just might be wise to have the pro's check whats left of me over to ensure the right solution to my many problems...(Shut up Nodrog!:laugh:)

Remember ... they have BIG needles ... :wacko:


Ive just been so busy with ...

Been there .... done that ... :yes:


...Again, thank you all so much for the advice and for providing me with options and ideas to approach the Vet with to discuss...you guys n girls fuckin rock!!:Punk:


Ask him/her about those little BLUE pills ... for when you feel better ... :shutup:



:love:


Did I mention those little blue pills .. ??? :done:

[Smifffy]

Tai Chi classes

[awa355]

Sorry to read of your problems. Cant offer anything much in the way of advice, but next time my gout returns, I'll shut up about it and remember there are guys out there with much worse than I have. :yes:

[Drew]

I'm chewing back a couple anti-inflamatories a day for my lower back. MAGIC!

[Reckless]

Bloody hell after reading through this surprising there's any drugs left at the store after the KBers have visited LMAO :bash::yes::woohoo::innocent::Punk:

[FJRider]

Bloody hell after reading through this surprising there's any drugs left at the store after the KBers have visited LMAO :bash::yes::woohoo::innocent::Punk:

Bulk buying privileges .. :shifty:

[Akzle]

Bloody hell after reading through this surprising there's any drugs left at the store after the KBers have visited LMAO :bash::yes::woohoo::innocent::Punk:

there arent. We buy in bulk and save.

Fuken pharma-armenians.

[Akzle]

Did I mention those little blue pills .. ??? :done:

shouldnt need those!
And having polite conversation with your cook should be done regularly and with enthusiasm. Good for the body and it releases dolphins which make you feel better.
Also ups your testosterone production which improves your abiliy to develop muscle.

[Edbear]

Ketamine is spectacular! When I broke my clavicle and scapula and they'd given me all the morphine they felt they safely could they stopped the ambulance and, I believe, a vet administered the ketamine... no fucking problemo from there on in. In fact when they were trying to get the perfect xray of the shoulder the tech managed to crack me across the back of the skull with the fucking camera and even that didn't bother me at all... reeeeally strong. Very strange too... and not something I'd want to recreationally abuse :eek5:

They OD'd me on Morphine and nearly killed me! My lungs shut down and as I hovered trying not to die, they had me on Ketamine. My family and friends around me didn't know whether to laugh or cry at what I was coming out with!


Bulk buying privileges .. :shifty:

Yup I almost think I should keep my meds in a locked cabinet.

[Swoop]

I can offer either a .38, 9mm or .45 injection.

Please leave your bike keys in the ignition.

[Paul in NZ]

OK - this may or may not help...

I exercise regularly and try to keep in shape (round is a shape)... However time isn't kind and you do pick up a few knocks. I was having all kinds of issues with hips / knees so I was trucked off to a specialist who sent my to a specialist physio who then worked with an exercise therapist. I ended up with the stupidest exercise plan ever devised BUT I stuck with it and gradually the pain lessened and the functionality improved. Where it was a painful experience walking from the train (20min) its now pretty pain free.

The problem was that most gym exercises (particularly machines) are great at isolating muscles and making them work hard and increase size. Things like walking actually use lots of other little muscles as well as the big ones. You have to engage them all and the weird exercises we all about waking them up...

Find a good physio or exercise therapist and see what they can do...

[Banditbandit]

OK - this may or may not help...

I exercise regularly and try to keep in shape (round is a shape)... However time isn't kind and you do pick up a few knocks. I was having all kinds of issues with hips / knees so I was trucked off to a specialist who sent my to a specialist physio who then worked with an exercise therapist. I ended up with the stupidest exercise plan ever devised BUT I stuck with it and gradually the pain lessened and the functionality improved. Where it was a painful experience walking from the train (20min) its now pretty pain free.

The problem was that most gym exercises (particularly machines) are great at isolating muscles and making them work hard and increase size. Things like walking actually use lots of other little muscles as well as the big ones. You have to engage them all and the weird exercises we all about waking them up...

Find a good physio or exercise therapist and see what they can do...

I have shot knees (painful to walk) stuffed back (just painful) and Yes - I use the gym regularly - it helps.


The rest? Just old age catching up on us.

[James Deuce]

Hey Willy, don't fall for anything related to the supplements or alt-med industry. They simply profit on the suffering of people and don't achieve anything except the occassional toxic overdose of a trace element. 10% of people experience significant easing of their symptoms by taking supplements but that fits the placebo effect precisely.

Exercise and Diet. Keep the sugar down, drop the alcohol if you can. It doesn't have to be exercise that leaves you feeling like you've been beaten either. Walk to the shops that are 2kms away instead of driving.

Every person who says, "just remember someone else has it worse", needs to go on an ignore list or be defriended. People who acknowledge your suffering and say things like, "I don't know how you keep going", do immense good for your psyche. They value you and they can give you a boost that lasts for months with a couple of sentences.

I've a similar list of injuries and ailments and the only reason I keep going is that people depend on me, so make sure that you're doing stuff for others (I know you do, but don't give it up).

Lastly, don't turn down help when you need it, don't be afraid or too staunch to ask for it either.

[Paul in NZ]

Hey Willy, don't fall for anything related to the supplements or alt-med industry. They simply profit on the suffering of people and don't achieve anything except the occassional toxic overdose of a trace element. 10% of people experience significant easing of their symptoms by taking supplements but that fits the placebo effect precisely.

Exercise and Diet. Keep the sugar down, drop the alcohol if you can. It doesn't have to be exercise that leaves you feeling like you've been beaten either. Walk to the shops that are 2kms away instead of driving.

Every person who says, "just remember someone else has it worse", needs to go on an ignore list or be defriended. People who acknowledge your suffering and say things like, "I don't know how you keep going", do immense good for your psyche. They value you and they can give you a boost that lasts for months with a couple of sentences.

I've a similar list of injuries and ailments and the only reason I keep going is that people depend on me, so make sure that you're doing stuff for others (I know you do, but don't give it up).

Lastly, don't turn down help when you need it, don't be afraid or too staunch to ask for it either.

Jims pretty well on the money here. If you are sore you self medicate with a few drinks and...

Vicki is a great believer in supplements but they have never made any lasting difference other than the placebo effect. The one I will say though is IF you exercise hard out then protein can assist in recovery and building / repairing muscle tissue but its NOT a short track to Mr Universe... Only good genes and steroids will do that...

[Erelyes]

we were already looking at getting an exercise machine for the garage (cos Im soooo unfit nowadays lol), but Ive got so many major injury's that I have to be careful with the exercise thing, so I dont actually do more damage than good

Willy! Don't open the wallet yet man!


The problem was that most gym exercises (particularly machines) are great at isolating muscles and making them work hard and increase size. Things like walking actually use lots of other little muscles as well as the big ones. You have to engage them all and the weird exercises we all about waking them up.

EXACTLY. EXACTLY.

Here's the thing Willy. The exercise industry (gyms in particular) is loaded with stupid shit.
- Some get you tuckered out on the treadmill and THEN get you to go to the weights (huh?)
- When they do get you to the 'weights' it's on thousand-dollar machines that only excercise one muscle (huh?)
- Then they start doing shit like this
312066

So many go to the gym, see sporadic results, get disheartened and give it up.

Here's what you should do.

1. Start with free exercises - pushups, horizontal rows (use a bar between two chairs), no-weight squats, lunges, chair dips. Deadlifting something light (a backpack filled with water bottles). Maybe chinups if you have something to hang off.
2. Work out Monday/Wed/Fri. Or Tues/Thurs/Sat. Or whatever, just do three days a week with gaps between. The gaps are to let your body recover.
3. You're after five sets of five, mixing it up. Do squats one day, lunges the next. Rows one day, Deadlifts the next. Dips one day, pushups the next.
4. Once all this is getting pretty easy, you can try increasing volume a bit. 5 sets of 6, 5 sets of 7, etc.
5. If this works out for you (and all it cost you was time), find yourself a gym with a barbell, bench, and powercage. Or buy those three things. This is all you need. Ignore the treadmills, the bikes, all the machines.
6. Read up on something to find out how to do the basic movements. I founddips the next. This site (http://stronglifts.com/) helped me starting out and this site (http://ironstrong.org/index.php/topic/1157-the-average-fn-program-a-simple-and-efficient-training-template/) as well.

In summary - do free shit, do it correctly, do it 3 days a week. See results and like what it's doing for you? Do some more.

[willytheekid]

Bloody hell after reading through this surprising there's any drugs left at the store after the KBers have visited LMAO :bash::yes::woohoo::innocent::Punk:

:laugh:...I too was surprised at the amazing array of drug info from the KB crew...and the amounts some have gone through:crazy: (And I thought I was broken! lol)

[willytheekid]

I can offer either a .38, 9mm or .45 injection.

Please leave your bike keys in the ignition.

:cry:.45 please...just dont miss!

...didnt you keep a spare?;)

[willytheekid]

Find a good physio or exercise therapist and see what they can do...

Thanks for the great advice Paul...My Charlotte is helping me organise the Vets etc, and she will ensure I do what Im told, including going to the "pain merchant" (Physio) :pinch:...last one did wonders, but omg!!...the pain they put ya through :crazy:(Im such a wossy now lol)




Lastly, don't turn down help when you need it, don't be afraid or too staunch to ask for it either.

Yeah...thats kinda been the problem to be honest, just been dealing with it and not bothering to seek help, advice or let others know how bad it really is...cos im stupid! (its how I got in this state in the first place:facepalm:)


Willy! Don't open the wallet yet man!

In summary - do free shit, do it correctly, do it 3 days a week. See results and like what it's doing for you? Do some more.

Oh god no!, Im a cheap buggar! :laugh:...I think I will wait for the Vet etc to check me over and advise how bad the damage is before commiting to anything...just in case I do further damage

Bloody good advice tho, totally agree with the day on day off excersise structure, I used to do the gym many many many years ago lol, and your bang on, that day of rest is crucial, as is a structured and personally tailored work out routine.




My thanks to everyone for sharing there advice, tips and kind words of encouragement...its so nice to know I can bounce things off others on here and get such amazing feedback and advice...I had a good talk to My Charlotte last night, and admitted that I really do need some help (Shut up Nodrog!:laugh:...u can't talk!)
...My Charlotte sends her thanks to you all for making see a Vet and providing me so much advice and options to discuss with them (She usually has to drag me kickin & screamin into the Vet...and only if Im lossing ALOT of blood lol...as FJ said, those fuckers have big needles!:crazy:)

I have been reading and reading all the comments and advice, I have noted it all down and WILL be walking/hobbling into the Vets soon to start the rebuild job
...So again, my sincere thanks to you all:love:


ps...no more rep available for 24hrs Gremlin?...really??...but...you knows I luvs sharing the Rep lots

[pritch]

I know what you mean when you mention the colder weather. My shoulders get painful when I ride, sometimes sooner, sometimes later, but it always arrives.

The doc prescribed anti-inflammatories but warned me, "They all eat holes in your stomach." So I don't take them unless there's a problem or a longish ride in prospect, and I take Solox at the same time to protect the stomach lining.

On my last trip around the South Island, maybe three years ago, I took an anti-inflammatory and the pills got me all the way around without too much discomfort.
Since then that drug, Diclofenac, has been identified as being related to an increased incidence of strokes so the doc changed the prescription. The new ones, Naproxen, don't seem to work as well but it may also be that the arthritis has just got worse.

If was going on a four hour ride I'd start taking them the day before. If I forget to take them I'll just take Ibuprofen instead, not that they seem to do much.

My left knee would sometimes lock and it needed to be straightened every so often or would let me know it wasn't happy. I took Glicosamine but it didn't do much, I may have left that a bit late. The new bionic knee works just fine.

All this may read as a bit trite to some but it seems very real at the time. The arthritis will be factored into any future bike purchase as my riding has changed. Touring capability will be less important as the rides will mostly be shorter, so lighter more flickable bikes like the KTM 690 Duke receive consideration.

Good luck with finding an answer, and don't forget to tell us if you do.

[Swoop]

:cry:.45 please...just dont miss!

Anything under 50 yards and you're in the box.:shifty:
& no, I certainly didn't.

Hope you work out a solution to the aches and pains Willy. Perhaps a warmer climate which also provides more riding days!:blip:

[Flip]

Have to agree about the physio.

I was in agony after a injury and the young male (gorrila paws) sports physio was simply brillant. Better than a box of pain killers.

[Latte]

+1 on the exercise (and using bodyweight / freeweight exercise vs machines).

Even though I'm comparitively yoiung (I assume) I had a few Mountain bike and MX injuries catch up on me, and would struggle to get up off the couch or bed.

I got into an exercise routine using freeweights and "compound" exercises (Deads, squats, presses and rows), and after 6 months or so noticed most of the pain was gone. Especially lower back and knee. Actually it has me wondeering if the old injuries were the issue at all, and maybe it was my office job and lack of regular exercise.

Anyway, I've moved to a body weight routine (as in increasing body weight by drinking beer and eating delicious pies) for the last 6 months and the pain hasn't returned.

[swtfa]

+2 for exercise - weights, and try supplements like vitamin D, glucosamine and fish oil :)

[willytheekid]

I know what you mean when you mention the colder weather. My shoulders get painful when I ride, sometimes sooner, sometimes later, but it always arrives.

The doc prescribed anti-inflammatories but warned me, "They all eat holes in your stomach." So I don't take them unless there's a problem or a longish ride in prospect, and I take Solox at the same time to protect the stomach lining.

On my last trip around the South Island, maybe three years ago, I took an anti-inflammatory and the pills got me all the way around without too much discomfort.
Since then that drug, Diclofenac, has been identified as being related to an increased incidence of strokes so the doc changed the prescription. The new ones, Naproxen, don't seem to work as well but it may also be that the arthritis has just got worse.

If was going on a four hour ride I'd start taking them the day before. If I forget to take them I'll just take Ibuprofen instead, not that they seem to do much.

My left knee would sometimes lock and it needed to be straightened every so often or would let me know it wasn't happy. I took Glicosamine but it didn't do much, I may have left that a bit late. The new bionic knee works just fine.

All this may read as a bit trite to some but it seems very real at the time. The arthritis will be factored into any future bike purchase as my riding has changed. Touring capability will be less important as the rides will mostly be shorter, so lighter more flickable bikes like the KTM 690 Duke receive consideration.

Good luck with finding an answer, and don't forget to tell us if you do.

My injurys are why I had to sell my beloved PhatGirl :weep: (96 guzzi sport)

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/139166-Sideswiped-off-the-highway-by-a-4x4?p=1130091174#post1130091174

...after the last drunk driver punched me & her off the road, the left shoulder that took the hit just couldn't handle the weight and the reach to the clipons anymore...it absolutely broke my heart having to sell that bike, but I just couldnt rider her for more than 20mins before the pain set in.

...God I used to love powerstanding that big bitch :headbang:

312068
My "PhatGirl"

...Hence I will be DAMNED!! if Im letting the broken body take my "Infidel" (VFR):angry2: (I'm not going through that torment & loss again...Plus, Ive got FAR to many parts horded for her rebuild lol)


Cheers pritch :niceone: (Your knees sound like mine lol...always fun reaching a set of lights with a locked knee aye lol)

[Akzle]

vitamin D, get naked in the sun
glucosamine and fish oil :)eat bones. broth and what not.

no human needs as much fish oil as many people take, it's just not possible to injest that much naturally.

[oldrider]

My injurys are why I had to sell my beloved PhatGirl :weep: (96 guzzi sport)

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/139166-Sideswiped-off-the-highway-by-a-4x4?p=1130091174#post1130091174

...after the last drunk driver punched me & her off the road, the left shoulder that took the hit just couldn't handle the weight and the reach to the clipons anymore...it absolutely broke my heart having to sell that bike, but I just couldnt rider her for more than 20mins before the pain set in.

...God I used to love powerstanding that big bitch :headbang:

312068
My "PhatGirl"

...Hence I will be DAMNED!! if Im letting the broken body take my "Infidel" (VFR):angry2: (I'm not going through that torment & loss again...Plus, Ive got FAR to many parts horded for her rebuild lol)


Cheers pritch :niceone: (Your knees sound like mine lol...always fun reaching a set of lights with a locked knee aye lol)

I feel your pain willy - :o

Thought I would be riding around as long as I live but between the ACC levies and toilets being spaced too far apart the odds are against that! :ride:

If Mrs oldrider passes away before I do then I might just give it another try but not in any hurry to see her off in the mean time! :love: