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98tls
27th May 2015, 20:02
Got mail ie car rego reminders all good even better as things just got cheaper but can somebody explain why its $179 to register a XR8 ute and $241 to do the same to a little 1.3 litre Mitsi runabout.

Gremlin
27th May 2015, 20:10
From July? (maybe June) vehicles are assigned a rating between 1 and 4 based on how safe they are (combination of ANCAP and NZ crash history).

Basically, the more dangerous vehicles will cost more, safer ones cost less. As a general policy newer vehicles should cost less, older ones more, but there are some other factors. My dad's Merc wagon, 2001, is one of the safest categories, my 2008 Hiace van... well, I'm surprised I'm still living apparently.

For you, are you sure you're comparing like for like? Utes/vans cost a bit more than normal cars, diesel costs more than petrol equivalent etc.

98tls
27th May 2015, 20:17
From July? (maybe June) vehicles are assigned a rating between 1 and 4 based on how safe they are (combination of ANCAP and NZ crash history).

Basically, the more dangerous vehicles will cost more, safer ones cost less. As a general policy newer vehicles should cost less, older ones more, but there are some other factors. My dad's Merc wagon, 2001, is one of the safest categories, my 2008 Hiace van... well, I'm surprised I'm still living apparently.

For you, are you sure you're comparing like for like? Utes/vans cost a bit more than normal cars, diesel costs more than petrol equivalent etc.

Uh huh,so what there saying is my ill handling dinosaur V8 is safer than my wont go fast enough for handling or anything else to be a factor runabout done 41,000kms is more likely to see me receiving a payout from ACC:weird:Fuck me i guess i shouldnt be surprised though eh tis NZ.Sorry for the thread i should have simply opened the mail read it shook my head a couple of times and got on with the evening.

caseye
27th May 2015, 20:35
Uh huh,so what there saying is my ill handling dinosaur V8 is safer than my wont go fast enough for handling or anything else to be a factor runabout done 41,000kms is more likely to see me receiving a payout from ACC:weird:Fuck me i guess i shouldnt be surprised though eh tis NZ.Sorry for the thread i should have simply opened the mail read it shook my head a couple of times and got on with the evening.

Yep you should've!
But like the rest of us , it's so damned absurd that we've just gotta say summit!

98tls
27th May 2015, 20:40
Yep you should've!
But like the rest of us , it's so damned absurd that we've just gotta say summit!

Pretty much nail/head mate.

Scuba_Steve
27th May 2015, 20:54
Well here's hoping this has a silver lining & more of the vehicles I like come up for sale at better prices :D

kiwi-on-wheels
27th May 2015, 21:30
Your reminder notice for the full year will be at current rates.

Pay rego up till the 1st of july, or as close as you can get to there.

After 1st july, the rates drop, so you are better off paying for a full year then.

My car comes in at $68 for the acc levy for a full year.

There is a list on the nzta website with a 1-4 catergory
have a look there, will give you the price.

And yeah its based on ncap and nz crash stats.

mossy1200
27th May 2015, 21:44
Your reminder notice for the full year will be at current rates.

Pay rego up till the 1st of july, or as close as you can get to there.

After 1st july, the rates drop, so you are better off paying for a full year then.

My car comes in at $68 for the acc levy for a full year.

There is a list on the nzta website with a 1-4 catergory
have a look there, will give you the price.

And yeah its based on ncap and nz crash stats.

Post link. Been looking for 30mins cant find a list.

Gremlin
27th May 2015, 21:49
Post link. Been looking for 30mins cant find a list.
http://www.acc.co.nz/PRD_EXT_CSMP/groups/external_levies/documents/reference_tools/wpc137747.pdf

neels
28th May 2015, 00:28
Pretty simple, its about how much it will cost acc in an accident, crash the tank and you'll walk away, crash the poxy rice burner and you won't quite be dead, costing acc a fortune while you learn to walk again. For example my old terrano, rollover safety is crap so if i put it on its lid I'll be dead, if I hit a jappy tin can they'll be fucked but I'll walk away, either way is cheap for acc so the levy is lower

kiwi-on-wheels
28th May 2015, 10:34
Mmmm not quite, people in the jappy tin can are supposedly safer (assuming a much newer car) because of all the airbags and stuff. It'll write off the car certainly, but there are likely to be less damage to the occupants of the tin can than to you. Lol especially if its me you hit ;-) :-P

98tls
28th May 2015, 16:04
Mmmm not quite, people in the jappy tin can are supposedly safer (assuming a much newer car) because of all the airbags and stuff. It'll write off the car certainly, but there are likely to be less damage to the occupants of the tin can than to you. Lol especially if its me you hit ;-) :-P

Thing is the wee mitsi is much older than the Falcon as in its a 97,only done 40,000k but older for sure.

F5 Dave
28th May 2015, 17:04
From July? (maybe June) vehicles are assigned a rating between 1 and 4 based on how safe they are (combination of ANCAP and NZ crash history).

Basically, the more dangerous vehicles will cost more, safer ones cost less. As a general policy newer vehicles should cost less, older ones more, but there are some other factors. My dad's Merc wagon, 2001, is one of the safest categories, my 2008 Hiace van... well, I'm surprised I'm still living apparently.

For you, are you sure you're comparing like for like? Utes/vans cost a bit more than normal cars, diesel costs more than petrol equivalent etc.
oh fantastic I'll always have a van (my last and only car was a 3.3 Victor).

Tax on the poor in effect, no matter how lofty the intent.

mossy1200
28th May 2015, 17:19
My car has a 5 star safety rating but only level 3 ACC fraud.
Maybe its because I would survive but have to take some time off work.
Need A car that's certain death to get the cheap rate most likely.

Reckless
28th May 2015, 18:10
My rego Expired yesterday on the car. New rates apply as of Monday aint it???

mossy1200
28th May 2015, 18:15
My rego Expired yesterday on the car. New rates apply as of Monday aint it???

You need get a months rego by my calculation. Isnt it June next month?

kiwi-on-wheels
28th May 2015, 19:23
if rego expired today, you'll pay current rate as its before 1 july.

if you pay rego till like 28th july, then went back in after the 1st to extend it, it'd be cheeper.

Reckless
28th May 2015, 22:04
Fuck got my dates screwed up can you get a month??

HenryDorsetCase
28th May 2015, 22:10
LOL my vehicle Subaru XV is not listed. ITs basically an impreza on stilts so should be the $68 one.

Gremlin
28th May 2015, 22:13
Fuck got my dates screwed up can you get a month??
Yes, you can buy as much as you want... the name of the form escapes me, DR27, DL27 maybe?

On the form you actually state your new expiry (as long as it's beyond your current expiry) and the cost is calculated.

ducatilover
28th May 2015, 22:53
My car has a 5 star safety rating but only level 3 ACC fraud.
Maybe its because I would survive but have to take some time off work.
Need A car that's certain death to get the cheap rate most likely.

Somehow my Peugeot 306 clubhack is a 4 and my old Volvo 850 is a 2 :shifty: I don't get it.

Gremlin
29th May 2015, 02:49
Yes, you can buy as much as you want... the name of the form escapes me, DR27, DL27 maybe?

On the form you actually state your new expiry (as long as it's beyond your current expiry) and the cost is calculated.
Close, MR27, option 2: http://www.nzta.govt.nz/vehicle/registration-licensing/licensing.html

Erelyes
29th May 2015, 12:33
Nice theory, but in practice seems a bit skewiff.

Take our car for example. We have an 06 Outback for family wagon duties. It has a bunch of three letter acronyms, and the optional airbag package (head and curtains). We bought it because at the time it was the highest-scoring vehicle ANCAP had tested (http://s3.amazonaws.com/cdn.ancap.com.au/app/public/assets/03b2121e4d3cd5e79834da248755032ffecff8b1/original.pdf?1417045328).

Apparently it's as safe as the previous model would be with driver/passenger only airbags and no ANCAP test whatsoever. <_<

Suppose I can't complain, it is in the cheapest band.

At least most of the Great Wall shit has terrible results though, maybe that'll stop people buying the fucking things.

caspernz
29th May 2015, 12:48
http://www.acc.co.nz/PRD_EXT_CSMP/groups/external_levies/documents/reference_tools/wpc137747.pdf

Interesting having a flick thru there. Must admit that the car rego is something I don't pay much attention to, it's way cheaper than the bike anyway. Anything left over at the end of the week is just spent on loose women and booze, that must've been the source of the OPs complaint too...

R650R
29th May 2015, 20:28
I was worried my wagon might default to the priciest option as very little crash data is available and it only has two front airbags, ABS and maybe yaw control going by the last gravel road drive I did :)
A Japanese market only model 3.5L 200kw but gets the cheapo $64 levy :) Maybe they felt guilty about using a Stagea in that 107k stop sign ad...

Swoop
30th May 2015, 19:34
Well. There's a surprise.
My renewal arrived in the mail and I have to pay a whole $138- for a years rego for the tin-top.
I must check up on what I paid last year, but this sounds rather cheap.

dangerous
30th May 2015, 19:35
Pretty simple, its about how much it will cost acc in an accident, crash the tank and you'll walk away, crash the poxy rice burner and you won't quite be dead, costing acc a fortune while you learn to walk again. For example my old terrano, rollover safety is crap so if i put it on its lid I'll be dead, if I hit a jappy tin can they'll be fucked but I'll walk away, either way is cheap for acc so the levy is lower

yeah hang on... crash a tank (PA Voxal) and you walk away??? id a thought youd be biffed about in they till ya brains fall out... car be ok tho
yeah hang on... crash a poxy rice burner (Zuke swift sport) and you won't quite be dead??? I woulda a thought you be fine but the car a wreck... did its job at protecting the contents???

98tls
30th May 2015, 19:41
yeah hang on... crash a tank (PA Voxal) and you walk away??? id a thought youd be biffed about in they till ya brains fall out... car be ok tho
yeah hang on... crash a poxy rice burner (Zuke swift sport) and you won't quite be dead??? I woulda a thought you be fine but the car a wreck... did its job at protecting the contents???

Was down in Hampden yesterday heading over to the Brass and just passed the fish n chip i thought i saw your better 1/2s Buell so went back but didnt see the Guzzi so carried on.

dangerous
31st May 2015, 09:35
Was down in Hampden yesterday heading over to the Brass and just passed the fish n chip i thought i saw your better 1/2s Buell so went back but didnt see the Guzzi so carried on.

na... both in the garage ma man

spanner spinner
31st May 2015, 21:31
yeah hang on... crash a tank (PA Voxal) and you walk away??? id a thought youd be biffed about in they till ya brains fall out... car be ok tho
yeah hang on... crash a poxy rice burner (Zuke swift sport) and you won't quite be dead??? I woulda a thought you be fine but the car a wreck... did its job at protecting the contents???

yep your right about the old car one of my workmates bought a early falcon it was a xw or xy bought for the body panels to repair a rusty GT. car had hit a bridge on the left hand side right on the end of the front chassis rail
driver was belted in but very dead, car had plenty of straight panel still on it. no crumple zones to adsorb the energy of the crash = driver becomes crumple zone which don't work to well.

scumdog
16th June 2015, 21:01
$175:92 for my Mighty Marina ute:2thumbsup

Not really much compensation for the $525:62 for my T-Sport!:pinch:

McJim
16th June 2015, 23:00
Sweet. Both our cars fall into the cheapest bracket. Chickadee just paid $138 for the whole year. I haven't taken possession of my latest cage yet. It's still en route from the auction house in Nippon.