Learner buddies be careful what you buy off Trade Me

[ir0nslash]

hey dudes

im a fresh learner myself . and well I just brought some so called alpinestar M1 gloves , looked amazing on trademe , just received them today ...

I was so stoked to get them ....

but then I just started seeing weird things .... they are medium and are pretty tight and I know im not a large so that was my first give away for knock off alert ...
so I looked around them more and just the padding around seemed off ..the patterns stitched in etc had to much excess material over the stitching lines..... so was questioning more ..... then the monster logo was stitched on upside down haha so yea gave up trying to convince myself to keep them , so emailed selling getting full refund ..

just watch out on knock off stuff as ive learnt my lesson will be going to a bike shop to get some proper safety gloves haha

name and shame seller ... not listed gloves atm but usually sells them http://www.trademe.co.nz/Members/Listings.aspx?member=4820665

[nzspokes]

So you get a pair of high end gloves for next to nothing and expect it to be legit?

[ir0nslash]

you got it .... says the brand and exact name , just saying watch out ? since its safety ....

[JimO]

his feedback is shite i wouldnt have bought off him just for that

[Ender EnZed]

So you get a pair of high end gloves for next to nothing and expect it to be legit?

If they're advertised as Alpinestars on TradeMe then the buyer should get a pair of Alpinestars in the mail.

[Oakie]

Second rule of internet applies. 'If it sounds to good to be true ...'

[mossy1200]

I bought some alpronstirs also. Paid $11.95 with free freight. I think they are legit.

[mossy1200]

My favourite is made in the same factory without brand name for a fraction of the price.
If this was true they should put the brand name on and make triple the profit?

[Mushu]

Are you new to the internet? Selling fake knock-offs as the real thing is second only to porn as the purpose of the internet, just look on ebay.

[ir0nslash]

well they seemed cool at the time any way .... 312530

[varminter]

Four fingers and a thumb, what more could you ask for?

[Mike.Gayner]

If they're advertised as Alpinestars on TradeMe then the buyer should get a pair of Alpinestars in the mail.

And the world should be made of marshmallows and lollipops.

[nodrog]

good old Aliexpress specials.

How much did you pay? I'm thinking of getting some for race gloves, they are cheap enough to throw away after 1 crash.

[ir0nslash]

yea well I am just a new rider so would like something what will last me a while , I ride with fingerless gloves atm as I don't have any full gloves atm , the point of this post was for new riders to just watch what there buying , as I brought wrong so just sharing my experience ....

he usually sells them for 100 buy now or 1 dollar reserve what usually gets up to 70ish with the bidders then stops as he offers the watchs 75-85 buy now after the auction , been watching them for a couple weeks so yea ....

[Rcktfsh]

Looking at his profile he appears to have missed a t in his name.

[nzspokes]

yea well I am just a new rider so would like something what will last me a while , I ride with fingerless gloves atm as I don't have any full gloves atm , the point of this post was for new riders to just watch what there buying , as I brought wrong so just sharing my experience ....

he usually sells them for 100 buy now or 1 dollar reserve what usually gets up to 70ish with the bidders then stops as he offers the watchs 75-85 buy now after the auction , been watching them for a couple weeks so yea ....

Because new riders dont slide as badly as experienced ones?

By the way, dont give them back to him. Give them to customs who will sort him out.

[Shaun Harris]

www.1tonne.co.nz have all ya need at the write price and quality

Good on the OP for trying to make some un aware people safer

[AllanB]

Firstly. Alpinestars tend to run small - you are a M, order a L in A-stars. A simple bit of internet research will provide numerous USA shops who provide video reviews of gear they sell and all comment on the sizing.

I usually wear a L in most brands - need a XL in Alpine stars.

Go to a NZ bike shop and check out the padding/stitching etc - you may well find they are identical to what you have.

Are they knock-offs? Your sizing argument is not valid. Look closer then decide. Logo is a good call - image search the net.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYeVj1O5KJ8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pM9XycG_E7M

[Paul in NZ]

OP did a decent thing in posting a warning and you all slam him? Jeeze - well done OP... Yes - good gear will cost extra but you don't need the flash brands to be 'safe' which is the first concern.

[Shaun Harris]

OP did a decent thing in posting a warning and you all slam him? Jeeze - well done OP... Yes - good gear will cost extra but you don't need the flash brands to be 'safe' which is the first concern.

Agreed man, this place is just full of fuk wit children pretending to be adults ffs

[nzspokes]

OP did a decent thing in posting a warning and you all slam him? Jeeze - well done OP... Yes - good gear will cost extra but you don't need the flash brands to be 'safe' which is the first concern.

This is KB. We have a right to abuse others. Are you new here?

[OddDuck]

In agreement with the others praising OP - good on him, this is what KB is supposed to be for. Useful information.

After a few deals buying various goodies off TradeMe I'd say:

Check your seller's feedback and READ WHAT PEOPLE SAY. Smilies aren't enough, there are heaps of people out there who are terrified of tit-for-tat bad feedback so they put a smiley face with something like "Won auction, didn't email, didn't pay, fucked me around for three weeks for nothing... but it's all good"

Photos always come out better on Trademe than things look in real life.

If it's unbranded then you're probably buying AliExpress made-in-China stuff. That doesn't necessarily mean it's bad but don't expect top line quality.

I've been lucky enough to avoid knockoffs so far and am heading away from Trademe anyway... there are some pretty good online shops out there these days.

[jonnyk5614]

I saw a report a while back - a couple of big fashion houses in the UK commissioned undercover reporters to go into China and find the bootleg handbag production lines. They wanted to be able to show poor workmanship, anthrax in the lining, child labour, staff flogged, etc.

Unfortunately, they found most of the bags were coming out of the same factory as theirs - same material, same pay for staff, etc. The factory said "on Mondays and Wednesdays, we put the label in - on the other days we don't. They hardly covered themselves in praise for the conditions of their own workers but oh well....

So yeah, quality wise bootleg not necessarily inferior (it could be the same product) but then again, it couldn't be as well. Would I like to trust that my leather jacket really has covex in it or have and accident and find chopped up inner tubes in the elbows instead? With clothing - not fussed. Safety gear, yeah - I'd prefer the cast iron guarantee.

But - the triple mark up. Yes - cost of materials and manufacture is zilch, hence the bootleg price. There were thousands of hours of design and testing of these products though. Is it fair to buy an exact copy? All that will happen is the genuine article will get more and more expensive as they accumulate less sales over the lifetime of the product to pay the R&D cost.

[pritch]

Agreed man, this place is just full of fuk wit children pretending to be adults ffs

I was wondering if it was an age thing. Some grumpy bugger gave OddDuck a red for his post #22. He and the OP would seem to have been intending to be helpful so that seems a bit harsh.

Alpine Stars gloves (the proper ones, not the mesh "commuting" ones) run from about $160 to over $360, if you're buying something for way less than that from an unknown Trademe seller you probably need to sharpen up. Failing that, I can offer you a very special price on this big bridge in Auckland. :whistle:

Bargains can be had. I bought a top-of-the-line pair of Spidi gloves for half price, but from a recognised dealer who is a Spidi agent. The original price was such that not many KBers, or anyone else including me, would have considered them.

[Shaun Harris]

[QUOTE=pritch;1130870377]I was wondering if it was an age thing. Some grumpy bugger gave OddDuck a red for his post #22. He and the OP would seem to have been intending to be helpful so that seems a bit harsh.


Again fukin CHILDISH shit with reps on here

[Shaun Harris]

[QUOTE=pritch;1130870377]I was wondering if it was an age thing. Some grumpy bugger gave OddDuck a red for his post #22. He and the OP would seem to have been intending to be helpful so that seems a bit harsh.


Again fukin CHILDISH shit with reps on here


As said, thanks for dropping in with a red nodrog

[Paul in NZ]

[QUOTE=pritch;1130870377]I was wondering if it was an age thing. Some grumpy bugger gave OddDuck a red for his post #22. He and the OP would seem to have been intending to be helpful so that seems a bit harsh.


Again fukin CHILDISH shit with reps on here

Yeah I must be brain damaged too cos I don't get that either...

[nodrog]

[QUOTE=Moto-Dynamix;1130870382]


As said, thanks for dropping in with a red nodrog

No worries numb nuts.

[Swivel]

Bugger, but at the end of the day you get what you pay for, I personally dont buy gloves or Helmets from tm.

[Berries]

I bought a great Alpinestar t-shirt at Sepang once. Only when I got home did I realise that my boots and jacket were actually Alpinestars with an S. Rip off bastards. The thing shrunk even before it went in the wash.

Personally I wouldn't buy any motorbike clothing off the internet but currently have a problem. My never ever ever let me down waterproof textile jacket of well over ten years of age finally let some water in during the heavy rain last week. Not going to be able to buy the same thing in NZ so am going to have shop on t'internet. Will give Trade Me a miss though. If a local or even national dealer does not have it then anyone on TM who does is a bit suss to me.

[JayDNZ]

Good call OP for raising the issue.

It seems to make good sense to buy safety gear from authors dealers, plus you can try on for size.

[haydes55]

Looking at his profile he appears to have missed a t in his name.
You seem to have missed an 'O' an 'E' and an 'I' in your name.

[Maha]

You seem to have missed an 'O' an 'E' and an 'I' in your name.

You have an s instead of an n in your name plus two 5's which equal ten.

[Swoop]

Four fingers and a thumb, what more could you ask for?

Well, that doesn't apply in Gore...

[haydes55]

You have an s instead of an n in your name plus two 5's which equal ten.
Touche..... Aren't you missing 'Ya' at the start of your name?

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[Maha]

Touche..... Aren't you missing 'Ya' at the start of your name?

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It's been known for some to yell out Ya Maha when the time suits.