At last the Honda RC213V-S [Archive]

mossy1200

12th June 2015, 06:18

Lastly the figure you’ve all be waiting for: out of the box, the Honda RC213V is will make a disappointing 157hp at the 11,000 rpm-spinning crank, but with the sports kit installed, that figure will get bumped to over 210hp. Peak torque is set at 75 lbs•ft at 10,500 rpm, with the sports kit lifting that figure to over 87 lbs•ft.

It should be noted, that those figures are for the European (except France), Japanese, and Australian markets…for the United States, the Honda RC213V-s will be tuned for 101hp at 8,000 rpm (66 lbs•ft of torque) — a figure the bike will be stuck at, since the sport kit is not available to the US market.

Once purchased, the machines must be stored indoors, in a controlled environment. They also must be serviced by specially certified Honda dealerships, who will have the necessary training and tools to service the high-maitenance street bike.

GHEY.
Rather have a Superleggera

Erelyes

12th June 2015, 09:35

…for the United States, the Honda RC213V-s will be tuned for 101hp at 8,000 rpm (66 lbs•ft of torque) — a figure the bike will be stuck at, since the sport kit is not available to the US market.

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McWild

12th June 2015, 09:53

Heh.

"Profits are down, and we're hurting for some easy cash."

"Screw it, lets just bore out a VFR800 and bang on some fancy fairings and exhaust pipes, better throw in a Trailtech and lower clip-ons for good measure."

All of this "closest thing to a GP bike" malarkey has had me laughing for a while. HRC won't give away any of their secrets to half their own technicians, much less the riders, much much less sell them to the public. Even the RCV213-RS team owners don't get to own their own bikes for a few years.

You think about the amount of already-built specials that that money could buy you... Spondon RG500s... an OWO2.. etc etc.

Of course none of that matters because despite the beeeeeauuutiful complete collections that kind of money could buy you, none of them would include an RCV213-S, so they're still gonna sell. Good! Keeps the economy moving.

Bender

12th June 2015, 10:20

New Yamaha R1 = the real deal. Not this disappointing bike.

EJK

12th June 2015, 10:28

A $300k flagship model gets outpowered by their own $18k CBR600RR...

willytheekid

12th June 2015, 15:27

:facepalm:...Been waiting so many years for the new sport VFR...and all they deliver is fail!

Wheres the gear driven cams?....wheres the sexy single sided swing arm?...and where's the competitive HP??

...bloody glad they didn't use the VFR model name for this over priced boring plastic wannabe!:oi-grr:

mossy1200

12th June 2015, 18:01

If they sent it out full HP they would need supply 18 different swingarms and 13 frames to try. Easier just to drop the power down so the chassis works.

Spend up and support Honda so they can afford a bike development rider though.

Gremlin

12th June 2015, 19:09

If they sent it out full HP they would need supply 18 different swingarms and 13 frames to try.
You mean for $300k you don't even get any spares? :crazy:

Uh... yeah... gotta ask why you would, other than collecting?

Erelyes

12th June 2015, 19:34

You mean for $300k you don't even get any spares? :crazy:

Uh... yeah... gotta ask why you would, other than collecting?

Veblen good (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veblen_good)

Crasherfromwayback

12th June 2015, 19:56

They'll sell 'em all, they'll become incredibly collectable and worth moonbeams. NR750 anyone?

T.W.R

12th June 2015, 20:08

They'll sell 'em all, they'll become incredibly collectable and worth moonbeams. NR750 anyone?

:lol: a reasonable RC45 & a few thou more gets you a NR750 these days :pinch: thats what the one croz took for strop last month in Ashvagas cost

Crasherfromwayback

12th June 2015, 20:20

:lol: a reasonable RC45 & a few thou more gets you a NR750 these days :pinch: thats what the one croz took for strop last month in Ashvagas cost

I've yet to see a cheap NR750.

mossy1200

12th June 2015, 20:29

Proves ghey people have more money to spend than hetros.

Crasherfromwayback

12th June 2015, 20:42

Proves ghey people have more money to spend than hetros.

Up the bum no babies.

mossy1200

12th June 2015, 20:57

Up the bum no babies.

Need be a lot more than 101 ponies before im receiving a back door gift package.

vifferman

12th June 2015, 20:59

The Vifferbabe said I could have one if she could buy a quilting machine. :clap:
Then I showed her the picture and she said a bad word, and "Aaaarrrgh that's ugly!!"
Then I told her what it cost, and she had a fit.

mossy1200

12th June 2015, 21:01

Low hp will only cause real men to be up your arse all day.

BMWST?

12th June 2015, 21:46

i wonder fuel range is :buggerd:

pritch

12th June 2015, 23:59

I've yet to see a cheap NR750.

I have only ever seen one NR750 and it wasn't for sale.

That RC213V-S is no way a VFR but I'm going to have to wait for a learned explanation of those wimpy power figures. The only people that came to mind as being likely buyers were Jay Leno, Tom Cruise and maybe Paul Bird.

A few years ago in a Brit bike mag though there was a comparison track test between a late model Ferrari and a Desmosedici. The same guy owned both. There are people around with that sort of cash. Just not around here. :whistle:

pritch

13th June 2015, 00:08

New Yamaha R1 = the real deal.

Not sure exactly what sort of "real deal" the new R1 is. In the Isle of Man only the other day Michael Dunlop chose not to ride it.

Gremlin

13th June 2015, 01:21

Not sure exactly what sort of "real deal" the new R1 is. In the Isle of Man only the other day Michael Dunlop chose not to ride it.
Bar those ah... performance issues...

I've seen the result of an R1 being ridden properly. Couple of thousand out of the rear (if that), and the bloke that owns it can have a look at the ride the night before, alter the bikes settings from his phone, and next day, he's exiting corners full throttle with the electronics sorting everything out...

Except the rear tyre gets killed :devil2:

mulletman

13th June 2015, 08:19

I have only ever seen one NR750 and it wasn't for sale.

As said one resides in ashvegas and ive seen it at rallies covered in bug splatter :Punk:

Crasherfromwayback

13th June 2015, 08:23

As said one resides in ashvegas and ive seen it at rallies covered in bug splatter :Punk:

Good to see it being used!

T.W.R

13th June 2015, 10:19

I've yet to see a cheap NR750.

Good to see it being used!

I'll take a piccy of it for you in a couple of weeks. It cost him one of his RC45s and a few k more but it sits in the store along side the infamous RC45 from Hamilton; interestingly though he doesn't like RC30s :confused:

As said one resides in ashvegas and ive seen it at rallies covered in bug splatter :Punk:

That's one thing with BP if he's got something he'll use it, the bike even sits in the store as if it's just come in from a blast.....bugs & road-film on it :niceone: . 10yrs ago at the brass he gave the 45 a wind-up on the sunday and just about got skittled by another bike that was heading out

Crasherfromwayback

13th June 2015, 15:50

I'll take a piccy of it for you in a couple of weeks. It cost him one of his RC45s and a few k more but it sits in the store along side the infamous RC45 from Hamilton; interestingly though he doesn't like RC30s :confused:

That's one thing with BP if he's got something he'll use it, the bike even sits in the store as if it's just come in from a blast.....bugs & road-film on it :niceone: . 10yrs ago at the brass he gave the 45 a wind-up on the sunday and just about got skittled by another bike that was heading out

Love to see it, as I dig them. Weird eh. But it's all personal choice. I'd far rather have an RC30 than a 45. But yep...they're made to be ridden. I certainly plan to ride my works bike, and most peeps think I'm mad in wanting to do so.

T.W.R

13th June 2015, 17:24

Love to see it, as I dig them. Weird eh. But it's all personal choice. I'd far rather have an RC30 than a 45. But yep...they're made to be ridden. I certainly plan to ride my works bike, and most peeps think I'm mad in wanting to do so.

Yep it's pretty nice piece of kit in the flesh, the build quality is delicious :drool:
I was surprised at the response I got about a RC30; just made the comment that he should get that one from Carbongarage to make a full set and the it was just nah not keen on them :scratch:
Yep if you've got something worthwhile using, use it....that's the purpose of it being built in the 1st place; though personally I'm not keen on seeing people abuse things they've got just because they can; in the long-run they just make themselves look like dicks with no respect for what they have.
A couple of weeks I'll be in giving the 12 a cold run at the dyno day they're having so will take a couple of pics:niceone:

sil3nt

13th June 2015, 19:21

New Yamaha R1 = the real deal. Not this disappointing bike.The real deal that's getting beaten by Aprilia, BMW and Ducati in World Superstock :lol:

EJK

14th June 2015, 13:31

Up the bum no babies.

10 characters

puddytat

14th June 2015, 13:36

Supposedly Casey is going to showcase it at this weekends GP.

Its all so underwhelming.

pritch

14th June 2015, 23:28

I only just read that and Stoner rode off on his demo. Waving to the crowd at bugger-all above walking speed, you don't need a $300,000 bike to do that. All he needed was one of those electric push bikes they have in the pits.

If that's all he did that's bloody pathetic. Dunno why he even bothered with leathers.

mossy1200

15th June 2015, 06:15

mulletman

15th June 2015, 13:18

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGBv6uHSG6Q

that's bloody pathetic

On the GP website he bangs on how 'Powerfull' it is blah blah and compared that part to his fireblade, but the blades more hp aint it ?

pritch

17th June 2015, 12:45

On the GP website he bangs on how 'Powerfull' it is blah blah and compared that part to his fireblade, but the blades more hp aint it ?

Apart from the posts on here, the only figure I've seen quoted is 220HP which is about what I would have expected. It'd need to be between the best production bikes and a GP bike. Apparently the cams are gear driven but the valves have springs instead of being pneumatically operated. It doesn't have a seamless gearbox but that would have been a bit much to expect.

The "sports kit" is for track day use. I'm still waiting to read an intelligent description of the bike by one of the experts. Apparently Honda handed out a flash brochure for the launch. Hopefully someone qualified will read it and tell us about the bike. Not that I'm buying one.

mulletman

17th June 2015, 16:24

Bit more info from Gizmag

http://www.gizmag.com/honda-road-legal-rc213v-motogp-replica/37986/

Bruce Lee

17th June 2015, 18:56

What a bunch of plonk, no street bike is worth anywhere near the asking price.

pritch

17th June 2015, 20:17

no street bike is worth anywhere near the asking price.

Not to you or to me but there are those who would think it is and who can afford it. Well, Honda hope there are.

Not a bad looking lump:

98tls

17th June 2015, 20:54

Not to you or to me but there are those who would think it is and who can afford it. Well, Honda hope there are.

Not a bad looking lump:

Indeed it is,always have chuckle at people leaping about in disgust re horsepower :laugh:the fact that someone with ability on something with 1/2 the horsepower on a road that mattered would leave them red faced seems to escape them,thank god for full faced helmets eh....

T.W.R

4th July 2015, 11:49

Love to see it, as I dig them. Weird eh. But it's all personal choice. I'd far rather have an RC30 than a 45. But yep...they're made to be ridden. I certainly plan to ride my works bike, and most peeps think I'm mad in wanting to do so.

Went in this morning for the dyno day and BP had the NR in the workshop so snapped a couple of shots for you while waiting for things to get underway :niceone:
Noticed there's a CX500 Turbo sitting beside the RC45 now out in the showroom too :yes:

Crasherfromwayback

4th July 2015, 12:02

Went in this morning for the dyno day and BP had the NR in the workshop so snapped a couple of shots for you while waiting for things to get underway :niceone:
Noticed there's a CX500 Turbo sitting beside the RC45 now out in the showroom too :yes:

Cheers for taking the time! That is SERIOUSLY fucking cool.

jellywrestler

4th July 2015, 12:18

Cheers for taking the time! That is SERIOUSLY fucking cool.

had a ride on that last year and rode 240km's in may with Croz, he was riding the NR and i had a hornet, the sound i reckon came out of god's own arse as it's divine... he had it tapped out too more than once

Crasherfromwayback

4th July 2015, 12:19

merv

4th July 2015, 12:24

The NR was about 100 grand and no one bitched about that at the time because those that can afford such exotica don't care when it would be like a decimal point of their bank balance. 300 grand for a bike like the RC213V-S is cheap compared to buying a car like the Buggatti Veyron for example and the guy that has one of those is just as likely to buy the RC with change.

There are people like Jay Leno with huge collections worth millions. They don't care that "poor" people complain about price.

Its like walking into the flash shops of Rodeo drive and saying damn that pair of designer jeans is not worth a couple of grand when you can buy jeans at Warehouse in NZ for $29.99, but to the rich guy to put his hot girlfriend in them with the right label is no problem to him.

T.W.R

4th July 2015, 12:49

had a ride on that last year and rode 240km's in may with Croz, he was riding the NR and i had a hornet, the sound i reckon came out of god's own arse as it's divine... he had it tapped out too more than once

:facepalm: that's 78kms unaccounted for from it's last trip out of the shop when Croz rode it to Coleridge :pinch: trip meter hadn't been reset and there were quite few others along for the trip too ;)

smmudd83_1999

11th August 2015, 10:27

Heh.

"Screw it, lets just bore out a VFR800 and bang on some fancy fairings and exhaust pipes, better throw in a Trailtech and lower clip-ons for good measure."

Er...no. If you can get 210bhp from your VFR800 with the above mods you are a genius.

A lot of folk here are baulking at the $300k pricetag. If you baulk at the price then this bike clearly isn't for you (Or me, for that matter). When you think about it, a lot more detailed engineering work and design goes into making this bike than the average Kiwi house...so is that some form of value for money? If you have the disposable income...probably. If I had the money I'd rather buy 10 very tasty classics than one proto tech flagship, but that's just my personal choice.

I can think of other high price machines out there such as the new Brough Superior - a relative bargain at only 40k GBP. Made to order, with customisable options during the build and dripping in tasty bits. Yet I recall reading a letter in Motorcycle Sport and Leisure of one tyre kicking pom saying "it's a shame they're so expensive, it would be great to see these things being ridden on the road." Eh? a BROUGH SUPERIOR? Didn't a 1925 SS100 have a modern day real world corrected value of approx 50k GBP? (compared to earnings). The modern equivalent is bit of a bargain really. And if Jim the local fish & chip shop owner could afford to use one as an everyday commuter than I think the design brief would have gone slightly agog.

HenryDorsetCase

11th August 2015, 13:45

http://www.cycleworld.com/2015/06/11/2016-honda-rc213v-s-motogp-replica-street-legal-sportbike-motorcycle-review/

Not sure if Kevin is a fan or not. I suspect not so much.

And for all that coin wouldn't you want pneumatic valves and a wee man to come adjust them living in your servants quarters.

Makes that RC30 for sale at $35k seem positively cheap!

HenryDorsetCase

11th August 2015, 13:50

I'll take a piccy of it for you in a couple of weeks. It cost him one of his RC45s and a few k more but it sits in the store along side the infamous RC45 from Hamilton; interestingly though he doesn't like RC30s :confused:

That's one thing with BP if he's got something he'll use it, the bike even sits in the store as if it's just come in from a blast.....bugs & road-film on it :niceone: . 10yrs ago at the brass he gave the 45 a wind-up on the sunday and just about got skittled by another bike that was heading out

is it in the shop because I will take a trip down and say gidday. I think I am still a customer in good standing there..... top guy and a great store.

HenryDorsetCase

11th August 2015, 13:51

EJK

11th August 2015, 14:01

Well, they've got Dani.......

The bike should come with an instruction manual

"You must weigh less than or equal to 50kgs to ride this bike."

T.W.R

11th August 2015, 22:01

is it in the shop because I will take a trip down and say gidday. I think I am still a customer in good standing there..... top guy and a great store.

Yeah the NR & the RC45 live in the shop beside each other; can't miss them over in the top left corner from the door :cool:
All pretty good bunch there :first:

AllanB

11th August 2015, 22:10

Interesting.

Say in the car world what would be of the equivalent? Be in the millions I suspect.

Still ...... WAY out of my budget!

VFR800 - you could buy supercharger kits for them a few years back - returned impressive HP.

HenryDorsetCase

9th September 2015, 09:35

AllanB

9th September 2015, 19:45

http://thekneeslider.com/honda-vfr800-bolt-on-supercharger-kit/

Do it I dare you.

160 hp ......

Fuck aye that would fair rip - I like the look of the kit too.

pritch

14th September 2015, 22:37

What a bunch of plonk, no street bike is worth anywhere near the asking price.

Well, the whole run has sold out so there's 213 people who disagree and who have the readies. It must have seemed worth it to them.

I recall that someone else hereabout had a cunning plan to bore out the VFR. You'll get wet.
The VFR has stayed the size it is because they can't bore it out anymore. When they increased the engine size from 750 they took it to the max.

They'd need a new V4 engine, maybe a litre bike. Oh wait...

mossy1200

14th September 2015, 22:52

Lost in all the hoopla, however, was the fact that the US version is significantly detuned compared to the European and Australian versions. While the European/Australian RC213V-S models will reportedly put out 159 PS (metric horsepower, or approximately 156 horsepower) in standard trim—an optional “sports kit” that includes a new ECU, different front ram-air ducting, a different exhaust (dumping the catalytic converters and mufflers for full race baffles), quickshifter, data logger, etc., boosts power to “over 215PS” (approximately 212 horsepower), but also renders the bike “for closed course only”—the US model will only put out 101 horsepower according to the US spec page (engine rpm is reportedly limited to 9400 rpm on the US model in order to pass noise emissions standards). It is also stated on the spec page that “the Sports Kit is not available for sale in the USA.”

http://www.sportrider.com/2016-honda-rc213v-s-street-legal-motogp-bike-unveiled

Wonder what the kit to make it full power is worth that also makes the bike track only. Likely the cost of a H2r:laugh: