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Katman
16th June 2015, 18:17
What the fuck is wrong with the Chinese?

http://www.smh.com.au/environment/animals/yulin-dog-meat-festival-of-cruelty-to-slaughter-10000-dogs-20150616-ghouxx.html

And if you feel strongly enough, please sign.

https://www.change.org/p/mr-chen-wu-yulin-governor-please-shut-down-the-yulin-dog-meat-festival-in-guangxi-china

https://www.change.org/p/president-of-the-people-s-republic-of-china-stop-the-yulin-dog-meat-eating-festival

mashman
16th June 2015, 18:21
Each to his own.

Katman
16th June 2015, 18:24
Each to his own.

Except that many of the dogs are burnt or boiled alive.

Apparently, the more they suffer, the better they taste.

scumdog
16th June 2015, 18:50
Except that many of the dogs are burnt or boiled alive.

Apparently, the more they suffer, the better they taste.

Maybe that's why in NZ people hound pigs for ages with a bunch of dogs that latch onto any piece of the pig that sticks out and then eventually hold it long enough to get the pig stabbed to death?

Must make them REALLLLY tasty.

Akzle
16th June 2015, 18:52
try ordering a beef burger in india.

Gtfover it cahnt.

I dont agree with animal cruelty at all.

But i fucking love lamb, veal and foie gras.

Akzle
16th June 2015, 18:53
try ordering a beef burger in india.

Gtfover it cahnt.

I dont agree with animal cruelty at all.

But i fucking love crayfish, octopus, lamb, veal and foie gras.

mashman
16th June 2015, 19:39
Except that many of the dogs are burnt or boiled alive.

Apparently, the more they suffer, the better they taste.

Some animals are bred to be killed for man to eat. What I eat offends other cultures. That practice is pretty fucked up according to my culture, and to me, but.......

R650R
16th June 2015, 20:49
The Czechs or what ever they call themselves these days like Horseburger.... at 1m30 seconds onwards... Big River man Also a repeat drink driver but the cops let him go as he is a national hero lol....


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ce432_JmdB8

tigertim20
16th June 2015, 21:23
this might be my favourite bit . . .
They also prayed for the dogs that were slated to be slaughtered
yes lets beg an imaginary sky pixie to change what is . . .

Yup, its shitty - but unless youre a vegan, (in which case, GGF) you're kidding yourself if you think that a substantial portion of your protein intake isnt at the result of the suffering of another being at some point.

Katman
17th June 2015, 09:07
Yup, its shitty - but unless youre a vegan, (in which case, GGF) you're kidding yourself if you think that a substantial portion of your protein intake isnt at the result of the suffering of another being at some point.

No, I'm certainly not a vegan.

I do however prefer that the animals that feed me haven't been subjected to unnecessary pain and suffering.

Taping up a dog's mouth so it can't make any noise while it is burned alive or breaking the legs of a dog so it can't jump out of a cauldron as it's boiled alive go way beyond anything that any human should consider acceptable.

Tazz
17th June 2015, 11:40
Maybe that's why in NZ people hound pigs for ages with a bunch of dogs that latch onto any piece of the pig that sticks out and then eventually hold it long enough to get the pig stabbed to death?

Must make them REALLLLY tasty.

NZ's version of fox hunting really.


Yup, its shitty - but unless youre a vegan, (in which case, GGF) you're kidding yourself if you think that a substantial portion of your protein intake isnt at the result of the suffering of another being at some point.

For sure, however as happy as I am to eat a cow that's been trapped in paddocks it's entire life, I'd like to think it weren't set on fire or boiled alive before reaching my plate.

Katman
17th June 2015, 11:57
NZ's version of fox hunting really.

Except for the fact that the pig is usually eaten.

I don't know that many people eat fox.

Tazz
17th June 2015, 12:08
Except for the fact that the pig is usually eaten.

I don't know that many people eat fox.

Fair-ish call, I think they used to be considered a bit of a pest (how many thar, possums, rabbits and hares do hunters eat?) and they'd be really crap eating, but at the same time it makes it sound like you're OK with an animal being tortured before being killed, so long as it's in NZ and not a dog?

What's the the difference between punching and stabbing a dog with short blunt instruments before you eat it and doing the same to a pig that makes one wrong and the other OK?

imdying
17th June 2015, 12:16
Except for the fact that the pig is usually eaten.Small comfort to the pig I expect.

I hear that in some despicably barbaric countries they pluck fish from the water before killing them, leaving the poor little buggers gasping and suffering up until the moment of death. Apparently some people do it just for sport... they just torture them in that manner before not even killing them and throwing them back in the water. WTF is with that sort of fucked up bullshit?

Katman
17th June 2015, 12:30
.....but at the same time it makes it sound like you're OK with an animal being tortured before being killed, so long as it's in NZ and not a dog?

No, I'm not a great fan of pig hunting - although I'm aware that using dogs is a method that humans have employed for many millennia before the advent of guns.

Hey, a man's gotta eat I suppose.

Unnecessary cruelty is taking it a bit far though.

Banditbandit
17th June 2015, 14:22
No, I'm certainly not a vegan.

I do however prefer that the animals that feed me haven't been subjected to unnecessary pain and suffering.



Dying to feed you is unnecessary pain and suffering ... eating meat is not necessary for humans ..

240
17th June 2015, 14:59
No, I'm certainly not a vegan.

I do however prefer that the animals that feed me haven't been subjected to unnecessary pain and suffering.

Taping up a dog's mouth so it can't make any noise while it is burned alive or breaking the legs of a dog so it can't jump out of a cauldron as it's boiled alive go way beyond anything that any human should consider acceptable.

Yep farken well said,this is just cruelty ffs

Akzle
17th June 2015, 16:17
Fair-ish call, I think they used to be considered a bit of a pest (how many thar, possums, rabbits and hares do hunters eat?) a
possums actually quite tasty...

http://cdn.newsday.com/polopoly_fs/1.6555494.1386354407!/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/display_600/image.jpg

Small comfort to the pig I expect.

I hear that in some despicably barbaric countries they pluck fish from the water before killing them, leaving the poor little buggers gasping and suffering up until the moment of death. Apparently some people do it just for sport... they just torture them in that manner before not even killing them and throwing them back in the water. WTF is with that sort of fucked up bullshit?
look up "iron chef", the guy that prepares an octopus - by beating it to death with a radish or some shit. delicious fucken japanese.

Dying to feed you is unnecessary pain and suffering ... eating meat is not necessary for humans ..

the fuck it isn't.

pzkpfw
17th June 2015, 16:50
Yep farken well said,this is just cruelty ffs

Yes.

I don't particularly mind people eating dogs, given I eat sheep and pigs and goats and deer and cows and chickens and rabbits and crocodiles and squids and fish and snails and ducks and turkeys and probably a few I've forgotten.

But that stuff is plain cruel. Shows what people can do.

Virago
17th June 2015, 17:54
...as happy as I am to eat a cow that's been trapped in paddocks it's entire life, I'd like to think it weren't set on fire or boiled alive before reaching my plate.

Exactly. No point in over-cooking it.

awayatc
17th June 2015, 18:04
No, I'm certainly not a vegan.

I do however prefer that the animals that feed me haven't been subjected to unnecessary pain and suffering.

Taping up a dog's mouth so it can't make any noise while it is burned alive or breaking the legs of a dog so it can't jump out of a cauldron as it's boiled alive go way beyond anything that any human should consider acceptable.

A fuckin men......
kat speaking up for dogs.....
next time I club me another f*kin barking mad Chinese trading partner,
Remember Fido.....

mada
17th June 2015, 18:59
Pretty horrible stuff, with the boiling alive.

That Yulin Festival has nothing to do with "Chinese culture" though as most don't eat dog.

The majority of the sellers themselves don't eat dog and a lot of the dogs are actually stolen pets. The sellers usually want to just get money - whether the dog dies or lives, they don't care. The festival was thought up by some dodgy officials who wanted to attract tourists to the craphole that really has nothing going for it and has stuck since.

Desperate people do desperate things. In a place where human life doesn't hold much value, not many place value on the lives of other "lesser" beings.

98tls
17th June 2015, 20:06
The festival was thought up by some dodgy officials who wanted to attract tourists to the craphole that really has nothing going for it and has stuck since.

Desperate people do desperate things. In a place where human life doesn't hold much value, not many place value on the lives of other "lesser" beings.

Makes me think "Auckland".:laugh:

Katman
17th June 2015, 20:07
That Yulin Festival has nothing to do with "Chinese culture" though as most don't eat dog.

You're right of course. Sadistic animal cruelty disquised as 'celebration' is not exclusively Chinese.

Once a year the people of Citilcum in Mexico fill pinatas with live animals and beat them to death.

If a pinata bursts open and an animal has survived the beating it is ripped apart by the celebrating crowd.

I shit you not.

98tls
17th June 2015, 20:13
You're right of course. Sadistic animal cruelty disquised as 'celebration' is not exclusively Chinese.

Once a year the people of a town in Mexico fill pinatas with live animals and beat them to death.

I shit you not.

To be fair as we type theres hundreds if not thousands of dogs in our own fair land that if given the choice would leap at the chance to end the misery they endure.

98tls
17th June 2015, 20:34
Enough of that eh will interrupt with this...somewhat off topic but Ks last post made me feel :sick:http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a92/tlme/gravesdam026Medium_zpsdd895e30.jpg (http://s9.photobucket.com/user/tlme/media/gravesdam026Medium_zpsdd895e30.jpg.html)

mada
17th June 2015, 21:52
Makes me think "Auckland".:laugh:

Well there was that case a while back of the guy in his own backyard (but he had killed the dog swiftly apparently)! :shit:

Always having dogs, don't think I could ever eat it, same with Loi Hoosi (horse meat). Each to their own, but you hope they die quick and as little pain as poss.

Katman
17th June 2015, 22:04
Well there was that case a while back of the guy in his own backyard (but he had killed the dog swiftly apparently)! :shit:

Always having dogs, don't think I could ever eat it, same with Loi Hoosi (horse meat). Each to their own, but you hope they die quick and as little pain as poss.

I do understand that within many cultures there is considered little difference between a dog and a sheep etc.

It is the sadistic barbarity of this particular event (along with the fact that a great many of the dogs are stolen family pets) that sets it apart from just another unusual custom.

mada
17th June 2015, 22:14
I do understand that within many cultures there is considered little difference between a dog and a sheep etc.

It is the sadistic barbarity of this particular event (along with the fact that a great many of the dogs are stolen family pets) that sets it apart from just another unusual custom.

Yeh definitely. The cynic in me says some at the market will treat the animals poorly on purpose to get more attention and from that more $$$ from people buying dogs that are still alive.

Last years Vicenews report on it showed local government still have a hand in it, with hired thugs disrupting protestors and the police doing nothing. Hopefully the central government will try and clamp it down, more likely they do nothing given they have so many other issues and animals/environment usually considered last.

Tazz
18th June 2015, 10:03
Pretty horrible stuff, with the boiling alive.

That Yulin Festival has nothing to do with "Chinese culture" though as most don't eat dog.

The majority of the sellers themselves don't eat dog and a lot of the dogs are actually stolen pets. The sellers usually want to just get money - whether the dog dies or lives, they don't care. The festival was thought up by some dodgy officials who wanted to attract tourists to the craphole that really has nothing going for it and has stuck since.

Desperate people do desperate things. In a place where human life doesn't hold much value, not many place value on the lives of other "lesser" beings.
Interesting target market....

TheDemonLord
18th June 2015, 10:26
I love how Animal Cruelty debates always seem to use the arguement 'oh but in your culture, some people also are cruel to animals, so you can't complain'

If I saw someone boiling a dog alive or burning it alive - I would remove the Dog and stick them in their Cauldron/on their Spit.

Tazz
18th June 2015, 18:39
I love how Animal Cruelty debates always seem to use the arguement 'oh but in your culture, some people also are cruel to animals, so you can't complain'

If I saw someone boiling a dog alive or burning it alive - I would remove the Dog and stick them in their Cauldron/on their Spit.
Do as I say, not as I do kind of guy eh.

Long live selective activism.

Tazz
18th June 2015, 18:42
possums actually quite tasty...

http://cdn.newsday.com/polopoly_fs/1.6555494.1386354407!/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/display_600/image.jpg

look up "iron chef", the guy that prepares an octopus - by beating it to death with a radish or some shit. delicious fucken japanese.


the fuck it isn't.

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Haven't had possum but have heard it's not bad considering.
Quite like rabbit. Local place does a bad ass rabbit pie sometimes during the winter.