Can anyone show me (in person) how to change oil & filter? [Archive]

wind_glider

28th June 2015, 18:07

Ok. Before anyone blasts me off as another Gixxer squid, hear me out. I've been riding motorbikes for the last 5 years and went thru my CBRs, Ninjas, and Yamahas before trying out a 750cc from Suzuki.

However, being a student back then and now a full-time worker I've never had the chance to learn how to maintain my motorbike other than taking the bike for services at the shop every 5000kms (I know). I have learnt about chain maintenance and lubrication since and also bits and pieces that I pick up here and there, but nothing much about oil/filter change.

I'm in Christchurch City, and really just want to learn more about my bike and how to take care of it. When I took them to my local bike shop (don't want to call out any names), they just aren't interested in teaching/showing me and only ask for my money after pushing the bike into their workshop where I can't see anything.

I would really appreciate if someone can help a brother out. I just want to know how to take the fairings out, how to empty the oil, pour the oil, change the oil and filter. I've watched many videos on Youtube but I'd still rather someone with mechanical experience/background/expertise show me how.

Thanks fellas

cheshirecat

28th June 2015, 18:46

As a general guide one could start here

https://youtu.be/Ft1IkFZkJts

Akzle

28th June 2015, 21:14

i suppose everyone has to start somewhere,.. but there really isnt much to fuck up...

Erelyes

28th June 2015, 21:19

here me out.

:facepalm:

Rhys

28th June 2015, 21:52

.. but there really isnt much to fuck up...

Having seen some of the questions that get asked on here, I think some people could

Katman

28th June 2015, 22:02

Buy a manual and teach yourself.

Changing oil is not rocket surgery.

neels

28th June 2015, 22:14

When did people on KB turn into such arseholes to someone who has fronted up that they know nothing and want to learn??

Ideally you have a manual, send me a PM and we can sort a time for you to rock the thing round to my place and we can have a look at the basics.

Big Dog

29th June 2015, 00:36

Kickaha

29th June 2015, 06:48

When did people on KB turn into such arseholes to someone who has fronted up that they know nothing and want to learn??
They were always here, no moderation to the rules of the tech forums has let them out to play

eldog

29th June 2015, 07:21

Having seen some of the questions that get asked on here, I think some people could

If it can go wrong I am your man.

So often I have to do things twice, the first time to find all the ways I can stuff it up.
The second time - usually so easy, makes me wonder I don't do it on purpose.

p.dath

29th June 2015, 07:37

i suppose everyone has to start somewhere,.. but there really isnt much to fuck up...

I have to put my hand up here. On about the third time I did an oil filter/filter change I managed to strip my sump plug. On the plus side, I've never done it again.

Moi

29th June 2015, 09:45

george formby

29th June 2015, 10:26

If it can go wrong I am your man.

So often I have to do things twice, the first time to find all the ways I can stuff it up.
The second time - usually so easy, makes me wonder I don't do it on purpose.

:drinkup:Yup, that's how I roll. Born with an unerring ability to balls up the simplest of tasks, the delicate touch of a sledge hammer and the mechanical instincts of a Petunia.

Akzle

29th June 2015, 12:20

:... the mechanical instincts of a Petunia.

well at least you smell pretty eh...

haydes55

29th June 2015, 12:35

Buy yourself a Haynes manual. Step by step instructions (with pictures) for almost anything.

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wind_glider

29th June 2015, 13:13

As a general guide one could start here

https://youtu.be/Ft1IkFZkJts

Thank you :) These were one of the vids I actually found on the tube... good to know that I found a good one.

wind_glider

29th June 2015, 13:15

i suppose everyone has to start somewhere,.. but there really isnt much to fuck up...

Fair enough... I've never been much of a mechanical guy is why I don't want to fuck up much. I'm a medical professional so bones, muscles, nerves, ligaments and blood are my thing and not metal parts.

wind_glider

29th June 2015, 13:16

:facepalm:

Thanks for your helpful insight... or not :)

Regardless of what you think, thank you for taking the time to read my post.

Regards

wind_glider

29th June 2015, 13:17

Having seen some of the questions that get asked on here, I think some people could

And I believe I could too that's why I'm asking if another can reach out.

I've never been much of a mechanical guy is why I don't want to fuck up my bike. I'm a medical professional so bones, muscles, nerves, ligaments and blood are my thing and not metal parts.

wind_glider

29th June 2015, 13:18

wind_glider

29th June 2015, 13:22

Many of us learnt this sort-of-stuff from our fathers, uncles, older family members or friends and neighbours - we were lucky.

You ask teenagers about doing basic servicing on a car and they often look at you blankly. People don't do that stuff themselves plus there's no engine under the bonnet of a modern car - just lots of plastic sheeting and a couple of colourful loops!

Good on the OP for wanting to learn about his bike :2thumbsup

Thank you.

I've been hesitant about posting in this forum because it makes me sound quite amateur in so many aspects when it comes to motorbikes.

I'm a medical professional so bones, muscles, nerves, ligaments and blood are my thing and not metal parts. But I love my bikes but all my mates are from work and they do the same thing as I do so pretty much don't have much contact with those outside of health care....

Anyway, thank you for posting and making my day that bit better

Regards

wind_glider

29th June 2015, 13:24

Buy yourself a Haynes manual. Step by step instructions (with pictures) for almost anything.

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Ah! I will look into that! On my lunch break atm and Googled the manual. Looks promising.

Thank you so much

Regards

Paul in NZ

29th June 2015, 14:09

Ah! I will look into that! On my lunch break atm and Googled the manual. Looks promising.

Thank you so much

Regards

Look good on you for asking and yes you get a new one reamed every time you ask anything here these days... Wasnt always like that and it wont be like it for ever - its just growing pains.

See if you can find a soft copy of the original factory workshop manual. In general these are superb and if anything have too much detail. Mr Haynes kind of assumes you know a bit BUT I usually have them both open.

Biggest fuck up likely to happen is cross threading the sump bung or over/under tightening it. The manual will give a correct figure and a torque wrench is a good idea until you get a feel for how tight is 'right'.

If you are touching peoples insides afterwards I may suggest you investigate some latex gloves before changing the oil. I'm sure you are near a source of these. Used oil is reasonably toxic and quite hard to get out from under the finger nails.

Oh - and you will cock something up - everyone does.... But the consequences are not as bad as grafting a foot onto where a hand should go...

29th June 2015, 14:22

Many of us learnt this sort-of-stuff from our fathers, uncles, older family members or friends and neighbours - we were lucky.

You ask teenagers about doing basic servicing on a car and they often look at you blankly. People don't do that stuff themselves plus there's no engine under the bonnet of a modern car - just lots of plastic sheeting and a couple of colourful loops!

Good on the OP for wanting to learn about his bike :2thumbsup

Exactly. The rot started many years ago with vehicles becoming more computer chip than mechanical. I remember coming to work in the 1990s with greasy hands. When work colleaques asked why and I said I changed the brakes pads on my car last night, along with oil & filter they all stared in disbelief that anyone did that sort of thing themselves! I guess those of us that started on dirt bikes had no choice but to tinker to keep the wrecks going. I confess I stopped doing these tasks myself years ago but I remember it was fun and satisfying..once upon a time.

Good on neels for stepping up to help and well done wind_glider for sticking your hand up and asking. It wasn't a silly question. How would anyone know how to do anything if no ones ever shown them first.

Akzle

29th June 2015, 14:33

Thanks for your helpful insight... or not :)

Regardless of what you think, thank you for taking the time to read my post.

Regards
dont be nice to assholes 'round here... you'll just encourage them

anyone else getting the feeling that he's a medical professional so bones, muscles, nerves, ligaments and blood are his thing and not metal parts?

I'm a medical professional so bones, muscles, nerves, ligaments and blood are my thing and not metal parts.

I'm a medical professional so bones, muscles, nerves, ligaments and blood are my thing and not metal parts.

I've never been much of a mechanical guy is why I don't want to fuck up my bike. I'm a medical professional so bones, muscles, nerves, ligaments and blood are my thing and not metal parts.

wind_glider

29th June 2015, 15:38

dont be nice to assholes 'round here... you'll just encourage them

anyone else getting the feeling that he's a medical professional so bones, muscles, nerves, ligaments and blood are his thing and not metal parts?

Haha... Okok.

I'm sorry I just don't know how to reply to people and had no idea they show up that way all around my post.

Anyway... I'll shut up about what I do since it really is not motorbike related :)

Cheers for the heads up

Regards

george formby

29th June 2015, 16:46

Haha... Okok.

I'm sorry I just don't know how to reply to people and had no idea they show up that way all around my post.

Anyway... I'll shut up about what I do since it really is not motorbike related :)

Cheers for the heads up

Regards

Bit of a bugger I'm so far away. I had a nasty off yesterday, grazed my thigh, twisted and bruised my knee and barked me calf. Medical attention for an oil and filter change in the first person. I can't actually bend my left leg enough to kneel at the mo, though.:laugh:
Decent manuals are the Holy Grail and after a bit of fiddling you definitely get a feel for how tight your nuts should be.

Moi

29th June 2015, 17:35

... after a bit of fiddling you definitely get a feel for how tight your nuts should be.

:eek::lol::eek5:

cheshirecat

29th June 2015, 18:30

SVboy

29th June 2015, 19:25

Have a look on gixxer.com. Find the section on l1 750's and there may well be several sticky threads on oil changes complete with pictures.

mossy1200

29th June 2015, 20:09

Make sure you take the helper some fuel vouchers or beer or something.
Last guy I helped never even kept his KB posting up. Spent 3hrs making his bike ready for a South Island tour.

Akzle

29th June 2015, 21:24

since it really is not motorbike related :)

neither is kb...

Nobbsie

29th June 2015, 21:37

Good man neels! top props!!! :first:

Big Dog

30th June 2015, 14:35

neither is kb...

Fixing bones, tendons n shiz is way more motorcycle related than a massive percentage of posts around here.

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gammaguy

30th June 2015, 15:21

i suppose everyone has to start somewhere,.. but there really isnt much to fuck up...

riiiiight

you can forget to put oil in(seen it happen)

you can forget to put the drain plug back in(seen it happen)

you can put too much oil in and flood the airbox with oil,which can fuck the engine(seen it happen)

you can damage the oil filter trying to get it out with the wrong tool(seen it happen)

you can overtighten the new filter and strip the thread in the bottom of the engine(seen it happen)

apart from that...yeah...what can go wrong

Akzle

30th June 2015, 16:02

riiiiight

you can forget to put oil in(seen it happen)

you can forget to put the drain plug back in(seen it happen)

you can put too much oil in and flood the airbox with oil,which can fuck the engine(seen it happen)

you can damage the oil filter trying to get it out with the wrong tool(seen it happen)

you can overtighten the new filter and strip the thread in the bottom of the engine(seen it happen)

apart from that...yeah...what can go wrong

you hang out with a lot of special people.

...or did it all happen at once?! :laugh:

SVboy

30th June 2015, 20:32

you hang out with a lot of special people.

He shares the forum with you.....I see your point.

wind_glider

1st July 2015, 16:32

Hey everybody!

Thanks for all of your help and support!!

I ended up taking on everyone's advice and...

1. Watched a couple of videos that you all recommended.

2. Went thru the Gixxer forum looking at some of their guides on oil/filter change (only managed to find a K8 to K10/L0 picture by picture one).

3. Reading the manual's section on oil/filter change.

Today I went to umm.... a motorcycle shop that I won't name... and had a chat with them... again. The manager was pretty chill this time round when I first asked them about purchasing Suzuki Genuine Parts for oil/filter. Then after I told them I am planning on doing the service myself he raised his eyebrows and rolled his eyes a little bit... then I said "I have a mate who knows what he's doing (sorry Neels I know you're not my mate haha) that will show me" ...he took me to the service manager and I may actually potentially have hooked myself up with a motorcycle mechanic that is good with Suzukis! He'll get back to me tomorrow... but I just want to say I've actually learnt a ton more about motorcycles since starting this thread... So thank you guys!!! Will update if anything pops up :)

Moi

1st July 2015, 17:00

Hey everybody! Thanks for all of your help and support!! ... but I just want to say I've actually learnt a ton more about motorcycles since starting this thread... So thank you guys!!! Will update if anything pops up :)

Well done for upskilling yourself... :woohoo:

and for ignoring the crankcase dipsticks that inhabit this forum!

neels

1st July 2015, 20:10

The manager was pretty chill this time round when I first asked them about purchasing Suzuki Genuine Parts for oil/filter. Then after I told them I am planning on doing the service myself he raised his eyebrows and rolled his eyes a little bit... then I said "I have a mate who knows what he's doing (sorry Neels I know you're not my mate haha) that will show me" ...he took me to the service manager and I may actually potentially have hooked myself up with a motorcycle mechanic that is good with Suzukis!
Nice work, that must be up there with "I'll talk to my lawyer and get back to you" as a way of getting some action from people.

If you can get a run through from someone who is doing the job on exactly that bike all the time, its probably a better option than someone like me that has done stuff on lots of different bikes, but still has to figure out the quirks of that particular bike.

Let us know how you get on....

Asher

2nd July 2015, 10:57

Not sure if the it's been mentioned in the tread but Thursday nights at smash palace are bike nights. They have a caravan workshop at the bar and I'm sure if you bring your oil and filter with you there will be a few people willing to show you what to do.

wind_glider

2nd July 2015, 14:38

Ah! I might take that in as an option as well!

Neels got back to me and we may have educational session this Sunday! Woop woop!

Update about umm... the dealership motorcycle shop I won't mention the name of...

They told me to leave my number and that they'll ask their mechanics....

Rung them back today asking why they never got back to me and the manager said yeah sorry about that but after thinking it thru, them helping me doesn't really benefit them so gave me a kind polite "fuck off" gesture since I'm not prepared to pay an oil/filter service which they say takes 1.5 hours at $95 per hour NOT including GST. Holy cow, why am I still working in the hospital?!

So I suppose Smash Palace and asking Neels for help (and me giving him something in return) would be the next best guess?

What would I need to get for oil/filter guys?

I have a motorcycle rear wheel stand.

Would I need a oil filter wrench? I'm sorting out the synthetic oil and filter too.....

Cheers lads

Big Dog

2nd July 2015, 17:50

A good set of spanners. Not the adjustable kind. Your sump bolt is relatively soft and will not take kindly to poor sizing or incorrect adjustment, once rounded a prick to get off.
Sockets are good too but if I could only have one for an oil change it'd be spanners.

Latex or similar gloves make cleanup much easier.
But you will still need a good hand cleaner.

Good lighting makes the job much easier. a small torch will save you a lot of time if you drop small parts.
A small metal or plastic bowl or jar to put small bits in.

If you are unfamiliar with a mechanical job you are attempting document vis photos or sketches what bolts go where. They won't all be the same size or thread.

Rags, drape some over your bike especially your grips. They soak up the oil then proceed to stain everything you own.

Kitty litter and more rags to clean up spills. You can buy proper oil spill cleaner if that floats your boat but it is the same stuff. Just 1/4 the price.

Screwdrivers and Alan keys for your fairing if any need to come off.
Blankets or old towels for fairing pieces. $90 an hour suddenly become cheap if you need to repaint or replace fairings.

If you have white plastics glad wrap is your friend.

Something to catch your dirty oil and a container to put it in.

The means to wash your bike after.

Read your manual some bike 's only empty properly on the side stand, others want to be vertical. No point changing $100 of oil and filter to leave 500ml of dirty oil in.

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Moi

2nd July 2015, 18:00

To catch the used oil - try a 3-litre plastic milk bottle with a large hole cut out of one side...

BUT... wait, there's more! - check that your bike doesn't hold more than 3 litres...:facepalm:

george formby

2nd July 2015, 18:14

To catch the used oil - try a 3-litre plastic milk bottle with a large hole cut out of one side...

BUT... wait, there's more! - check that your bike doesn't hold more than 3 litres...:facepalm:

Why dirty a container when you can change the oil over a drain? Don't drop your sump bolt.

I jest, really, I do.:wait:

george formby

2nd July 2015, 18:25

What would I need to get for oil/filter guys?

Here is a list of filters. Prolly stick with OE Suzuki or K & N meself. My bike is still working and it always has a little Emgo stuck in it.

AMSOil SMF 109
Bike Master 314-0025
Champion PH7016
Cycle Power 314-1919
Emgo 10-55662
Emgo 10-55660
Fram PH6018
Hi-Flo HF138
J.C.Whitney ZX063166P
K&N 138
NAPA 1359 / WIX 51359
NAPA PS7937
Parts Unlimited
Per-Form J-509
ProPart 01-0029
Purolator ML16818
STP SMO-18
Suzuki 16510-03G00-X07
VESRAH vsf-3009
WIX 57937

Oil, dunno.
Filter wrench? Depends on the person who fitted it. I'm assuming it's spin on. If King Kong put it on you might.

Double check this info OP, before you spend, I got it off the interwebs. Disclaimer.

Kickaha

2nd July 2015, 18:45

Here is a list of filters. Prolly stick with OE Suzuki or K & N meself. My bike is still working and it always has a little Emgo stuck in it.

Suzuki OE are about $20, personally I'd rather a filter built to the standard required by the people who build the bikes but heaps of people use aftermarket with no problems

Filter removal tool is cheap for something like this http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/parts-for-sale/filters/auction-910323467.htm

george formby

2nd July 2015, 19:24

Suzuki OE are about $20, personally I'd rather a filter built to the standard required by the people who build the bikes but heaps of people use aftermarket with no problems

Filter removal tool is cheap for something like this http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/parts-for-sale/filters/auction-910323467.htm

Yup, and apparently they are thread specific. So they say.

haydes55

2nd July 2015, 21:05

You will be binning the old filter anyway, No need to buy a wrench. If you can't undo it with just your hands, jam a screw driver through it and use it to lever it off. Just remember lefty loosey.

Asher

2nd July 2015, 21:14

I like the K and N filters, they have a built in nut on top so you can get them undone easy and have holes for lock wire

Erelyes

2nd July 2015, 21:17

skippa1

2nd July 2015, 21:25

Cleaning/drying it helps for doing it by hand. A glove can help as well.
Bet this guy did a mean oil change

wind_glider

2nd July 2015, 21:27

Wow. First off. Thank you all so much. Even though I'm a stranger to you all, everyone has been so nice to me on this forum I seriously feel like you guys are my friends already... Perhaps karma coming back at me finally after waving and nodding to every single biker I pass whenever I ride haha.

Tomorrow I'll be heading back to the dealership...

I will buy:

1. OEM Oil Filter --> They have stated these cost $20 for Suzuki GSXRs
2. Engine Oil --> They say they only sell 4 litre containers/bottles which costs $60
3. OEM Wrench --> Will see as I'm sure the fella that fitted the previous one wasn't King Kong but nice to have one just in case?
4. Funnel and Container for pouring oil in and to collect the old oil
5. Rags. Lots of rags. And making sure I don't ruin my fairings or like you guys said $90 may not seem so expensive anymore...

To be frank they were going to charge me $163.88 for their mechanical labour and $80 for the components. And then some more for which I cannot remember. That seems a lot to me in my opinion... And I've had bad experiences and heard things about them... (Friend of mine with '09 GSX-R1000 took his bike for its 1st interval service, the bike came back with 2 scratches on the tank and a dented number plate and a scratch on the Right Hand Side Faring... They just said "oops, we were a bit rough"... and my mate paid the money and said "fuck off, never coming to you again" and walked off. If they don't treat our bikes like their own... I don't see the point of going... That's all. I am obviously bias based off of a few people's experience but I'd rather not take a risk with a motorcycle I take very good care of myself... Is that fair to say?

Akzle

2nd July 2015, 22:04

Just remember lefty loosey.

oh i do! Handjobs behind the bike shed, yes oi.

husaberg

2nd July 2015, 22:13

oh i do! Handjobs behind the bike shed, yes oi.
Yeah I bet you do.
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Autech

3rd July 2015, 09:02

i suppose everyone has to start somewhere,.. but there really isnt much to fuck up...

I know someone who overtightened their sump plug on a virtually brand new bike then went for a ride. Sump plug dropped out, so did the oil and BAM, fucked engine!

You will be binning the old filter anyway, No need to buy a wrench. If you can't undo it with just your hands, jam a screw driver through it and use it to lever it off. Just remember lefty loosey.

That's the one :D

Good on the OP for wanting to do their own work, bike shops will just take your money and do a shit job in my experience.

Dr z-tard

3rd July 2015, 10:21

I couldn't be bothered scrolling through 6 pages of forums but if your still the chch guy who wants to learn how to service your bike and was getting a lesson I'm keen to come watch, I know my way around bikes and have done work on a nz250, a drz400, a cbr150 and a gsr400 bike doing changes fixing electrics and pulling apart carbs and wouldn't mind putting another bike on the list. If your planning on keeping your bike for a while those Haynes books are amazing, sometimes lacking in fine details and gloss over parts but have a great amount of useful information to start with, pm me with details and il come watch you get oil on everything.

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Big Dog

3rd July 2015, 13:15

You will be binning the old filter anyway, No need to buy a wrench. If you can't undo it with just your hands, jam a screw driver through it and use it to lever it off. Just remember lefty loosey.
A tool or a firm grip do mean a lot less cleanup than chucking a screwdriver through. That should be a oh sit now what option.
Not long ago I tried unsuccessfully to remove a filter that was over tightened from my big horn. Mechanic had done last change. The sound it makes when your filter suddenly shears off sure makes your breathing stop. And it makes getting the core off a lot harder.

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george formby

3rd July 2015, 13:43

I stumbled on a good last ditch way to remove a filter. The placement of the filter on the missus's car is ridiculous, two finger tips only, no room for a filter wrench and barely any room to stab and turn it with a screwdriver which just rips the filter up and spews oil everywhere anyway. I'm to lazy to dismantle that part of the motor for access.
Any hoo, last time I changed the oil I ended up in the usual situation, could not get enough grip on filter to release it so I wrapped some lengths of old inner tube around it and twisted them tight. Bugger me it worked, got enough grip to break the seal and spin it off.
Might come in handy for somebody in a similar situation..

wind_glider

5th July 2015, 19:54

Alright. I took a few pictures before and during while Neels came over to help out.

Everything went smoothly and I learnt my lesson that I need a bloody oil filter wrench!

I learnt a lot from Neels and watching him work on the bike and teaching me how to fit the fairings back on...etc

Top bloke. I offered to buy him beer and he politely refused. Came in and taught me all I needed to know then disappeared just as fast.

Here's some pictures of the set up.

My motorbike's a L1 Suzuki GSX-R 750.

The dealer that I bought the bike from stated an oil filter and engine oil change. However, from the looks of things when me and Neels inspected the bike, only the engine oil was changed... at 1000kms. I bought her at 2000kms and she's at 4000kms now. The sight glass on the engine showed dark engine oil which spurred me to start this whole thread. Anyway. I need to go find myself at 17mm wrench and an oil filter wrench now!

Thank you all so much for your help... Truly am thankful... :)

http://i.imgur.com/wVj44D4.jpg The whole set-up

http://i.imgur.com/BpwIs5S.jpg The stuff we used

http://i.imgur.com/iWzp8YZ.jpg Draining the oil

http://i.imgur.com/rdVb1Pw.jpg Complete!

Moi

5th July 2015, 21:00

:niceone:

Gold star as well...

neels

5th July 2015, 21:29

Awesome, no photo's of the screwdriver hanging out of the side of the oil filter, that thing was on tight. With that little room to move an oil filter wrench is a good plan for next time, and picked up a good tip to put foil over the exhaust to keep the oil off when dropping the filter, just proves you're never to old to learn a new trick.....

ruaphu

5th July 2015, 21:50

Well done man. Brake pads is the next hurdle, then changing and setting up the chain.

Cheers eh

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AllanB

5th July 2015, 22:21

Oil colour can be deceptive. It will darken as the oil does it's job. Jet black sludge is another matter!!

You can buy oil filter straps from Supercheap and the like for about $10 strap types that you hook up to a socket wrench and they wrap around and spin it off.

I also have a pair of gardening gloves with small rubber dots over the palms and fingers - great for gripping a oil filter.

I've been running K&N on my vehicles for a while - the nut on the end makes removal a breeze. Hi-Flo are top notch - they make oil filters for many factories too - just brand them with the bike makers name.

wind_glider

6th July 2015, 20:33

I was too focused on trying to solve the problem with that tight factory installed oil filter that I didn't even thought of taking a picture of that!

Thank you so much man. I really appreciate it. I've tried so many times to ask for help from dealerships who just turn me away.

See you on the road mate.

Awesome, no photo's of the screwdriver hanging out of the side of the oil filter, that thing was on tight. With that little room to move an oil filter wrench is a good plan for next time, and picked up a good tip to put foil over the exhaust to keep the oil off when dropping the filter, just proves you're never to old to learn a new trick.....

wind_glider

6th July 2015, 20:36

Yeah! Neels tried that strap method too. But the bloody oil filter has never been changed on the bike since the manual recommended it to be changed only have every 2nd oil change I believe or every 12000kms? Don't remember but wasn't every time. I'll probably stick to the wrench that they recommend and also look at getting a K&N filter for its ease of use next time round...

Thanks for the tip buddy. Will definitely take that into consideration.

See you on the road.

Oil colour can be deceptive. It will darken as the oil does it's job. Jet black sludge is another matter!!

You can buy oil filter straps from Supercheap and the like for about $10 strap types that you hook up to a socket wrench and they wrap around and spin it off.

I also have a pair of gardening gloves with small rubber dots over the palms and fingers - great for gripping a oil filter.

I've been running K&N on my vehicles for a while - the nut on the end makes removal a breeze. Hi-Flo are top notch - they make oil filters for many factories too - just brand them with the bike makers name.