Lane splitting in rush hour?

[ir0nslash]

hey dudes and dudets

I just went for a mint ride this afternoon , and came back from the city area in rush hour 6pm to west Auckland , I lane split most of the way , but as a newbie myself , I see people use there indicator when lane splitting, so for half the way I put on my indicator and started going , but I have to say ALOT of ASSHOLES saw me coming and moved closer to the center line ..... and were really not interested in letting a gap form , so the last 5 min I turned it back off and had a good ride all the way home ,

I was wondering what you guys think about indicators when lane splitting ....

[Swoop]

I always use the RH indicator when filtering.
If I merge back into traffic, it goes off.

The lanes on the NW are rather narrow due to the roadworks and will continue to be for a year or so yet, so just go with the flow and take the opportunities that present themselves when filtering.
I was forced to take the tin-top to work the other day and was caught in 45mins of gridlock. It took that long to travel about 350mtrs! Just unbelievable.

[Mike.Gayner]

The benefit of using your indicator is it's one less reason for some cunty cop to give you a ticket.

[Virago]

Meanwhile in Dunedin's rush hour...

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[yod]

meanwhile in Palmy's rush hour...

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[bogan]

meanwhile in Palmy's rush hour...

Nah that can't be right, we don't have hills.

And those roads are in too good nick...

[yod]

Nah that can't be right, we don't have hills.


yes we do, I live on one, but I spose technically that's outside Palmy so I actually live about 14km from the city centre, and it takes me like 12 minutes to get home at rush hour! :p

[bogan]

yes we do, I live on one, but I spose technically that's outside Palmy so I actually live about 14km from the city centre, and it takes me like 12 minutes to get home at rush hour! :p

Know that feeling, I live completely across town from work and some days it can take me the same. That shit is unreal eh; I even get to split/filter sometimes...

[tigertim20]

Meanwhile in Dunedin's rush hour...



dont belittle my problems Virago.

in rush hour, it take me SEVEN minute to get to my mates on the far side of town, instead of the usual four minutes.

He could be a good couple drinks ahead of me by then!

[FJRider]

... I was wondering what you guys think about indicators when lane splitting ....

I tried lane splitting on a few local roads ... just to see how dangerous it really is ... :blank:



Personally ... :devil2:



I can't see any problems ... :2thumbsup

[Moi]

I tried lane splitting on a few local roads ... just to see how dangerous it really is ... :blank:

Personally ... :devil2:

I can't see any problems ... :2thumbsup

That's a very nice driveway you have... just how far is the road from your house? :rolleyes:

[FJRider]

That's a very nice driveway you have... just how far is the road from your house? :rolleyes:

Depends ...


Some days it's a few hours ride.


Other days ... maybe a week ...





I just can't figure out why indicators are important ... :scratch:

[TheDemonLord]

I split all the time, with my hazards on.

I find when people are on the phone or otherwise too lazy to maintain their lane discipline, a pull of the clutch and the gentle melody of 10,000 RPM quickly corrects their lane position.

I make sure I wave thank you as I glide on by

[Erelyes]

I was wondering what you guys think about indicators when lane splitting ....

I don't bother, unless I'm pulling in and out of traffic flow.

[tigertim20]

I don't bother, unless I'm pulling in and out of traffic flow.

Thats the difference between you and I mate.

I dont pull out . . .

[Virago]

Thats the difference between you and I mate.

I dont pull out . . .

Yeah - and look where that got you...

[Berries]

What the fuck is "rush hour"?

[MD]

I alternate between using the L or R as I split depending on which direction I move out of my lane to split. I think (hope) it increases my visibility to cars ahead that may do a sudden lane change.

I don't agree with Riders using their hazard lights (both at the same time). If I was cop I would probably book these guys for misuse- they're not a stationary hazard as these lights are intended to be used for. What are they trying to say? I'm about to turn left and right, take a guess which?

[Swoop]

What the fuck is "rush hour"?
Aucklanders are asking the same thing! It's now lasting for about five hours in the morning and 4 3/4 in the afternoons!




I don't agree with Riders using their hazard lights (both at the same time).
Yup. Agree wholeheartedly!

[Latte]

Aucklanders are asking the same thing! It's now lasting for about five hours in the morning and 4 3/4 in the afternoons!




Yup. Agree wholeheartedly!


And no one's rushing anywhere =D

I'll usually put an indicator on but not always. I haven't noticed much difference either way.

Also, the north western seems to have a lot more aggressive people on it, I get more people trying to block me per trip, than I would all year on the northern.

[haydes55]

Unless you are changing lane, you don't need to indicate. What are you trying to say by indicating? You're riding in a straight line, not trying to merge or turn. You don't indicate for the entire length of a passing lane if you spend the entire length in the same lane. Once you've made the lane change, indicator off.

Alternatively, apparently it's an offence to fail to indicate, but excessive/unnecessary indication isn't. So as far as legislation is concerned, you could hard wire your hazzard lights on, you'll never fail to indicate and you won't get done for indicating incorrectly?

Also don't rev bomb. You have a horn. Rev bombing can't be good for the engine, it's designed to have load on it.... Been there, done that, got the peices of the bottom end.

[TheDemonLord]

I don't agree with Riders using their hazard lights (both at the same time). If I was cop I would probably book these guys for misuse- they're not a stationary hazard as these lights are intended to be used for. What are they trying to say? I'm about to turn left and right, take a guess which?

Its a fair call - I myself used to use my right indicator and also agree that a Self righteous cop could ticket me for it - but my rational is that I want as many things to draw attention to my prescence as possible when filtering and tbh - if someone can't work out that I am filtering between the lanes as opposed to changing lanes, and thats why I have my hazards on - they really need to re-evaluate their ability to operate a motorvehicle.

[Swoop]

Also, the north western seems to have a lot more aggressive people on it, I get more people trying to block me per trip, than I would all year on the northern.

Welcome to Stabby-Land!
Actively & deliberately blocking means etiquette and road rules no longer apply and "game on".

[pzkpfw]

Unless you are changing lane, you don't need to indicate. What are you trying to say by indicating? You're riding in a straight line, not trying to merge or turn. You don't indicate for the entire length of a passing lane if you spend the entire length in the same lane. Once you've made the lane change, indicator off.

...

Received wisdom is: The technicality that makes splitting "legal" is passing cars on their right, within their lane. That means your right-hand indicator should be used. (Not left, not hazards, not none). And you wouldn't switch it on and off for every car you go past.


I've never had anyone deliberately try to block me. (Or if they did, they didn't do it well enough for me to notice.)

The biggest problem down here are people who think "keep to the left" makes them safe, even when in the right lane of a multi-lane road, with a barrier between them and the other direction of traffic; so they hug the lane divider. Doesn't seem deliberate, just oblivious. It's like the driver wants to be in the centre of the lane, forgetting they are not in the centre of their car.

[Meanie]

yes we do, I live on one, but I spose technically that's outside Palmy so I actually live about 14km from the city centre, and it takes me like 12 minutes to get home at rush hour! :p

I had a bike that slow once :laugh:

[Scuba_Steve]

Nah that can't be right, we don't have hills.

And those roads are in too good nick...

& there's a distinct lack of cops trying to scam people, but all the tire marks leaving the road is about right

[Big Dog]

Received wisdom is: The technicality that makes splitting "legal" is passing cars on their right, within their lane. That means your right-hand indicator should be used. (Not left, not hazards, not none). And you wouldn't switch it on and off for every car you go past.


I've never had anyone deliberately try to block me. (Or if they did, they didn't do it well enough for me to notice.)

The biggest problem down here are people who think "keep to the left" makes them safe, even when in the right lane of a multi-lane road, with a barrier between them and the other direction of traffic; so they hug the lane divider. Doesn't seem deliberate, just oblivious. It's like the driver wants to be in the centre of the lane, forgetting they are not in the centre of their car.
This^^^
If you are passing a vehicle in the same lane you must be indicating. You can only pass on the right while traffic is moving. Pretty simple.

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[swbarnett]

they're not a stationary hazard as these lights are intended to be used for.
The way I've always understood it they're for identifying a potential hazard, moving as well as stationary. That's why cars being towed have them on. IIRC cops also use them along with their other lights.


What are they trying to say?
Actually we're trying to get driver's attention so they don't jump out and hit us.

I usually use them but really I could take it or leave it as far as lights at all go as i'ts up to the splitter to look out for themselves.

[Trade_nancy]

meanwhile in Palmy's rush hour...


Using Paul Henry's version....."AAArrrrsse..."

[rocketman1]

I do not live in Auckland and I cannot believe that NZr's even Jaffas, would try and prevent a bike lane splitting. I have never seen it done, and find it difficult that someone would purposely do that.
If someone did that then that would make them a c--t, wouldnt it?

Side mirrors are quite expensive to replace, arent they?

[caseye]

I do not live in Auckland and I cannot believe that NZr's even Jaffas, would try and prevent a bike lane splitting. I have never seen it done, and find it difficult that someone would purposely do that.
If someone did that then that would make them a c--t, wouldnt it?

Side mirrors are quite expensive to replace, arent they?

Quite Obviously where you come from everybody are well behaved and great people. Which of course we are, Waikatoian born and breed.
Butt! you have not been on a bike for very long or in many different places, because i'd have to say that the hundreds nae 1000;s of other riders I do know here in Dorkland and country wide have almost to a man/woman, experienced bloody minded car drivers closing the gap on them while they're going about their business lane splitting calmly and quietly.
having said that, come to Dorkland , get on the mobile car park of a morning and witness all the dumb fuck motorcyclists splitting traffic that IS moving at 60-80K's ph at speed and getting stroppy with car drivers who don't even know they're there because they are moving so damn fast.
Soon one of these dumb fucks is going to get killed and the Police are going to put a stop to letting most of us sensibly lane split without making a fuss.

[FJRider]

I do not live in Auckland ...

Neither do I ...


Perhaps we leave Auckland problems to those that live there. (provincial .. not National issues)

They can handle them ... otherwise they wouldn't live there ... right .. ??

[mossy1200]

I do not live in Auckland and I cannot believe that NZr's even Jaffas, would try and prevent a bike lane splitting. I have never seen it done, and find it difficult that someone would purposely do that.
If someone did that then that would make them a c--t, wouldnt it?



Little bit of pee came out.:nya:

[98tls]

Neither do I ...


Perhaps we leave Auckland problems to those that live there. (provincial .. not National issues)

They can handle them ... otherwise they wouldn't live there ... right .. ??

Good idea possibly even give them a separate TV channel or at least at 6pm,why they think that anyone else in this country gives a fuck about how much a house costs up there/how long it takes em to get to work or any other of the problems they seem to have by living there is news worthy is beyond me.

[FJRider]

Good idea possibly even give them a separate TV channel or at least at 6pm,why they think that anyone else in this country gives a fuck about how much a house costs up there/how long it takes em to get to work or any other of the problems they seem to have by living there is news worthy is beyond me.

He he .. the breakfast show on TV1 however does give me quite a laugh ... when they tell them (us too) how long it will take (them) to get to work.

It takes ME a 5 minute walk to work. And JAFFA's like to boast how smart and well planned their lives are ... :killingme

[Big Dog]

Good idea possibly even give them a separate TV channel or at least at 6pm,why they think that anyone else in this country gives a fuck about how much a house costs up there/how long it takes em to get to work or any other of the problems they seem to have by living there is news worthy is beyond me.
Or the annual south island stories how it snowed. And no one planned for it.

Some stories never change.

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[FJRider]

Or the annual south island stories how it snowed. And no one planned for it.

Some stories never change.

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I planned for it ... I walk to work. (remember .. ??)

[Big Dog]

I planned for it ... I walk to work. (remember .. ??)
Lol, every year some one has a bleat about sheep losses, someone else bangs on about icy streets causing car crashes and shock of all shocks the power goes out.

Every year I think to myself: sort more dry feed, get some chains or snow tires for winter and buy a generator.

Or, move to akl and complain about 4° and a ten minute wait for latte.

You pick your poison.

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[Diggers]

Ive split on the southern mway for about 7 years now. Never have indicators on, if someone is looking in the mirror, they'll probably see my headlight. I find most drivers shuffle to the right of their lane, allowing me through on the left.

As for cops, any cop in a car will never catch you (the traffic's heavy, that's why youre splitting). Only a bike cop would catch you. And I very rarely see any cops at all on the southern. Non issue IMHO.

[5ive]

I saw a GSX-R600 rider on Friday morning showing me how 'not' to filter as they followed me from Mountain view road onto the Western Springs on-ramp and into town.

Send me a PM if you read here, and Ill give you a quick lesson on how not to do it without rev-bombng every car "in your way", and stick below 120kmph whilst "filtering" just to catch up again as I slow down for the next off-ramp. Might save your life/not give riders a bad image.

[mossy1200]

I saw a GSX-R600 rider on Friday morning showing me how 'not' to filter as they followed me from Mountain view road onto the Western Springs on-ramp and into town.

Send me a PM if you read here, and Ill give you a quick lesson on how not to do it without rev-bombng every car "in your way", and stick below 120kmph whilst "filtering" just to catch up again as I slow down for the next off-ramp. Might save your life/not give riders a bad image.

+1
We will never get the publics support on anything bike related when a handful ride like dicks.

[FJRider]

... Might save your life/not give riders a bad image.

After the new BP advertisment on the TV (the one that features a Motorcycle/Rabbit road trip) ... how could we possibly get a bad name ... ?? :sunny:

[swbarnett]

We will never get the publics support on anything bike related when a handful ride like dicks.
Then we may as well just give up trying and enjoy ourselves. No sector of society is immune to having a handful of dicks as members no matter how you slice it.

[mossy1200]

Then we may as well just give up trying and enjoy ourselves. No sector of society is immune to having a handful of dicks as members no matter how you slice it.

Correct. I was just pointing out the obvious. Nobody remembers the average behaviour just the 5%ers.
Personally the price of rego doesn't worry me its the paying it for every bike that does. I need clone myself to get good value.

[swbarnett]

Personally the price of rego doesn't worry me its the paying it for every bike that does. I need clone myself to get good value.
Agreed. I get good value for money as my bike is my primary transport and I only own one.

The answer to the cost inequity is extremely simple. Take the entire ACC budget from income tax take (both personal and business).

[James Deuce]

After the new BP advertisment on the TV (the one that features a Motorcycle/Rabbit road trip) ... how could we possibly get a bad name ... ?? :sunny:

Having had a pet rabbit that dude's tank bag is fucked. It's full of piss and rabbit pellets.

He should have just eaten it like a normal person.

[mossy1200]

The answer to the cost inequity is extremely simple. Take the entire ACC budget from income tax take (both personal and business).

You cant do that. That's how the acc system is supposed to be. Being an insurance company makes a lot more surplus as you can risk access and punish those that you can alienate and risk access as a minority group. When there is toll booths at ski fields, equestrian events and rugby grounds maybe the rest of NZ will notice.

[Racing Dave]

He should have just eaten it like a normal person.

A normal person doesn't taste as good as a rabbit does...

[James Deuce]

A normal person doesn't taste as good as a rabbit does...

You're not cooking them right. I have some pork recipes that are just phenomenal. One of them even produces decent crackling, despite using a crock pot to cook the meat.

[Big Dog]

A pet I'd likely return. A wild rabbit would meet a slow cooker and a 1/2 bottle of wine. Once reduced be peeled of the bone, added to some onion, veggies and gravied and baked into a two pastry pie.

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[Big Dog]

Maybe a little blue vein or cheddar.

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[Old Steve]

Lane splitting scares the sh** out of me, and I see some stupid behaviour on Auckland motorways. We all know how quickly motorbikes come up from behind, even as a motorbike rider I get surprised when a bike comes up fast behind me and passes me - a bike can travel a long way between looks in the rear vision mirror.

However, I lane filter, and have done from a couple of months after I started riding. But there's a difference between lane filtering and lane splitting - just before I came home from Queensland they introduced legal lane filtering, less than 30 km/hr, not in school zones, L platers not allowed. And the QLD road rules carries a distinction between lane filtering and lane splitting and highlights that lane splitting is still illegal.

When NSW did a lane filtering trial in Sydney for 6 months, they found that traffic flow improved by 4% and it was a win-win for both motorbikers and car drivers (for every motorbike lane filtering to the front of the queue one car moved up in the queue as a motorbike within the queue takes up almost the same length as a car).

But I cringe when I see a sports bike rider, wearing jandals, shorts, tee-shirt, no gloves and only a mandatory helmet go speeding down between lanes of cars doing 80 km/hr or more. Well I cringe when I see a rider wearing that sort of gear anytime. Thankfully more riders are wearing more protective gear now it's winter. I once picked a sports bike rider up off a roundabout, he'd been wearing jandals, shorts, tee-shirt, no gloves and only a helmet, where he'd hit a diesel spill and low sided into the gutter. Feet, calves, thighs, buttocks, shoulders and hands were a mess, and he was probably only doing no more than 30 km/hr when he came off. Took him to A&E, and the admissions nurse said, "Self inflicted injury?" I thought I was very restrained in not giving him an ATGATT lecture as I drove him to the hospital.

[Berries]

I once picked a sports bike rider up off a roundabout, he'd been wearing jandals, shorts, tee-shirt, no gloves and only a helmet, where he'd hit a diesel spill and low sided into the gutter. Feet, calves, thighs, buttocks, shoulders and hands were a mess, and he was probably only doing no more than 30 km/hr when he came off.
No worse than a cyclist falling off then?

[nerrrd]

Kudos to the rider I saw lane splitting down Gt North Rd into New Lynn on Friday night, it was mesmerising, indicate right, sashay to the right, switch to the left, a few blinks left, back to the right indicate right and so on, positively balletic it was.

Not so much kudos to the lane splitting sandwich I was in the night before, one speeding past on the left, one a bit slower on the right, wobbly old me in the middle with the cars. Very hard to distinguish bike headlights from all the other headlights in the queue at night in my mirrors.

[awa355]

After the new BP advertisment on the TV (the one that features a Motorcycle/Rabbit road trip) ... how could we possibly get a bad name ... ?? :sunny:

How the f..k does a rabbit found down the sth isl, get to belong to some kid up Auckland way??? :rolleyes:

[Moi]

How the f..k does a rabbit found down the sth isl, get to belong to some kid up Auckland way??? :rolleyes:

It got left behind... was it accidental? - we'll never know...

also...

what about the bridge that appears to have moved many kms south from its natural home on the Waikato River? :weird:



Just a shame about the product being advertised...

[swbarnett]

also...

what about the bridge that appears to have moved many kms south from its natural home on the Waikato River? :weird:
Yeah, I noticed that. Pretty big detour - Tuakau to Auckland via the deep south.

And then there's the BP station that he pulls into shortly after crossing the Tuakau bridge that's in Kumeu (north-west of Auckland).

[pzkpfw]

How the f..k does a rabbit found down the sth isl, get to belong to some kid up Auckland way??? :rolleyes:

The house across the road from the guy has a "Sold" sign on it.



Fuck me. I paid attention to an ad. I'm doomed.

[Maha]

I saw a GSX-R600 rider on Friday morning showing me how 'not' to filter as they followed me from Mountain view road onto the Western Springs on-ramp and into town.

Send me a PM if you read here, and Ill give you a quick lesson on how not to do it without rev-bombng every car "in your way", and stick below 120kmph whilst "filtering" just to catch up again as I slow down for the next off-ramp. Might save your life/not give riders a bad image.

Was in a 'discussion' once with a car commuter from out west on this very subject, she spoke of bike riders like that, then added that she ''would just love to open her door on them'' while that is simply a ridiculous reaction, I would assume that she is not a lone car commuter with that thought?

[TheDemonLord]

Was in a 'discussion' once with a car commuter from out west on this very subject, she spoke of bike riders like that, then added that she ''would just love to open her door on them'' while that is simply a ridiculous reaction, I would assume that she is not a lone car commuter with that thought?

This is why we need an RPG based protection system for drivers like that....

[James Deuce]

Was in a 'discussion' once with a car commuter from out west on this very subject, she spoke of bike riders like that, then added that she ''would just love to open her door on them'' while that is simply a ridiculous reaction, I would assume that she is not a lone car commuter with that thought?

I think the average car-driving commuter would be quite disheartened by the amount of damage a 300KG mass moving at 60kph would do to the average car door assembly.

So while you're recuperating in hospital you can at least avail yourself of the cheery thought that you've probably written their car off and at least ruined that calendar month for them.

[Big Dog]

Was in a 'discussion' once with a car commuter from out west on this very subject, she spoke of bike riders like that, then added that she ''would just love to open her door on them'' while that is simply a ridiculous reaction, I would assume that she is not a lone car commuter with that thought?
On the north western I have had about 3 people open doors, more than that bark like dogs, curse of sound their horn, god only knows how many flick an indicator on just to see my reaction, spit or flick cigarettes at me and worst someone took a shot at me. Didn't see from what or hang around to find out. Black tube. Pop noise. Something passed between chest and arm and sparked when it hit the chain link fence.

I had a cup of coffee thrown at me on the northern.

Nothing on the southern.

I don't speed when lane splitting.
I did used to get this kind of abuse when some ghost rider wannabe was the last bike before me.
I say this in the past tense because I don't use the north western much any more.

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[Big Dog]

This is why we need an RPG based protection system for drivers like that....
Why?
So you can be a part of the escalation?

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[Big Dog]

I think the average car-driving commuter would be quite disheartened by the amount of damage a 300KG mass moving at 60kph would do to the average car door assembly.

So while you're recuperating in hospital you can at least avail yourself of the cheery thought that you've probably written their car off and at least ruined that calendar month for them.
My bike? 260kgs
Me? Including gear and lunch? 160kgs.

420kgs would indeed make a mess of a door assembly.

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[Maha]

On the north western I have had about 3 people open doors, more than that bark like dogs, curse of sound their horn, god only knows how many flick an indicator on just to see my reaction, spit or flick cigarettes at me and worst someone took a shot at me. Didn't see from what or hang around to find out. Black tube. Pop noise. Something passed between chest and arm and sparked when it hit the chain link fence.

I had a cup of coffee thrown at me on the northern.

Nothing on the southern.

I don't speed when lane splitting.
I did used to get this kind of abuse when some ghost rider wannabe was the last bike before me.
I say this in the past tense because I don't use the north western much any more.

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OMG! the reaction of those unfortunate twats crawling (or worse sitting) in their safe enclosed metal environment is staggering.
I got hit buy a paintball once, not on the motorway though, but hitting my helmet at 100 kph it certainly shook a few things, Anne copped some as she was pillion at the time, and concluded we had been hit by a paintball when I noticed the bright green colour on the tank.

[Big Dog]

Just another reason I don't live in jafaland anymore.

Now if only I could stop working here.

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[TheDemonLord]

Why?
So you can be a part of the escalation?

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you say escalation - I say Darwinian evolution.

[swbarnett]

Just another reason I don't live in jafaland anymore.

Now if only I could stop working here.

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Ditto. Tuakau is certainly a step up but it's missing my kind of employer.

I need to telecommute more often.

[Swoop]

How the f..k does a rabbit found down the sth isl, get to belong to some kid up Auckland way??? :rolleyes:

Option #1: It was trapped on board a Mobil tanker?
Option #2: It ran away from an abusive family home?
Option #3: It migrated south for the summer?
Option #4: It was about to appear in an episode of MKR?

[SPman]

Every year I think to myself: sort more dry feed, get some chains or snow tires for winter and buy a generator.

. In Tuakau?

[Big Dog]

In Tuakau?
No, when I see southlanders on the news.

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[SPman]

You're not cooking them right. I have some pork recipes that are just phenomenal. One of them even produces decent crackling, despite using a crock pot to cook the meat.
How would it work with Japanese? I have it on first hand account, "they're too stringy"......

[Big Dog]

Ditto. Tuakau is certainly a step up but it's missing my kind of employer.

I need to telecommute more often.
Yep. By my calculations if I telecommute half the week I could save enough in transport cost to build an office in the back yard. Save myself 6 hours a week and provide greater productivity to my employer.

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[yod]

I had a bike that slow once :laugh:

had?

:lol::lol:

[Moi]

In Tuakau?

Big Dog lies... ;)

Tuakau is beyond the Bombays, just, but still beyond... so the great ice wall advances north that far each autumn and retreats south each spring... I know 'cause I've seen it with my own eyes...







Thus begins the latest fairy tale...

[swbarnett]

Tuakau is beyond the Bombays, just, but still beyond... so the great ice wall advances north that far each autumn and retreats south each spring... I know 'cause I've seen it with my own eyes...
Tuakau is definitely a few degrees cooler than Auckland. The thermometer on our deck was reading -2C one morning last week.

[Daffyd]

A pet I'd likely return. A wild rabbit would meet a slow cooker and a 1/2 bottle of wine. Once reduced be peeled of the bone, added to some onion, veggies and gravied and baked into a two pastry pie.

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As a girl, my late mother lived on rabbit as the staple meat. They couldn't afford to buy much, so they hunted their own. Despite a very unconventional way of holding a rifle she was actually a very good shot. (I guess she had to be or they would have gone hungry.) She told me they roasted the bunnies like a chicken.

[FJRider]

How the f..k does a rabbit found down the sth isl, get to belong to some kid up Auckland way??? :rolleyes:

Judging by the real estate agents sign on the property the biker was shown as it's home ... I guess her family moved house ... (without the rabbit)

[FJRider]

As a girl, my late mother lived on rabbit as the staple meat. They couldn't afford to buy much, so they hunted their own. Despite a very unconventional way of holding a rifle she was actually a very good shot. (I guess she had to be or they would have gone hungry.) She told me they roasted the bunnies like a chicken.

As a kid ... I used to go rabbiting with a bunch of sugar sacks and a box of matches. I never went home empty handed. But that was due more to rabbit numbers ... than my skill ...

[Big Dog]

As a girl, my late mother lived on rabbit as the staple meat. They couldn't afford to buy much, so they hunted their own. Despite a very unconventional way of holding a rifle she was actually a very good shot. (I guess she had to be or they would have gone hungry.) She told me they roasted the bunnies like a chicken.

I have only ever had rabbit a few times and always in merlot and mushroom pie.
It still makes me drool to remember back to that.

More than happy to give a taste test to whatever rabbit is on offer... any time... easter, christmas, or just becuase it is a day ending in y.



When I lived in the 'naki my daughter had a knack for getting the wild rabbits to come to her... unfortunately the ex had a nasty habit of requiring the house to be vegetarian.:brick:

[Night Falcon]

I have only ever had rabbit a few times and always in merlot and mushroom pie.
It still makes me drool to remember back to that.

More than happy to give a taste test to whatever rabbit is on offer... any time... easter, christmas, or just becuase it is a day ending in y.



When I lived in the 'naki my daughter had a knack for getting the wild rabbits to come to her... unfortunately the ex had a nasty habit of requiring the house to be vegetarian.:brick:

Cows eat grass we eat cows, how's that not being vegetarian :weird:

[Pontiac_Tonz]

On the north western I have had about 3 people open doors, more than that bark like dogs, curse of sound their horn, god only knows how many flick an indicator on just to see my reaction, spit or flick cigarettes at me and worst someone took a shot at me. Didn't see from what or hang around to find out. Black tube. Pop noise. Something passed between chest and arm and sparked when it hit the chain link fence.

I had a cup of coffee thrown at me on the northern.

Nothing on the southern.

I don't speed when lane splitting.
I did used to get this kind of abuse when some ghost rider wannabe was the last bike before me.
I say this in the past tense because I don't use the north western much any more.

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I am still kinda new to this lane splitting thing - I travel from Massey in west Auckland to Greenlane (via Northwestern) for work. When I got the job I decided dragging a V6 Commodore there everyday would drain my patience and bank account (from gas costs).

So a little 250 cruiser was commissioned along with my (now) provisional.

I follow couple of self-set rules.

* If moving at over 30kmh - no need to split - filter at worst
* Split at a SLOW speed and acknowledge the best I can anyone that moves over and makes room
* If driver changes lane in front of me (didn't see me or otherwise) don't make a big deal of it (Beemer did this the other day - when he realized I was there and moved way over to let me split - a quick thumbs up on the way past to let him know "all good"
* Indicate to let all know what I intend to do
* No rev bombs - just wait, an opening will come along soon
* Move out of the way of the more experienced guys and clearly indicate to go ahead


I have not (yet?) had any adverse reaction to my splitting that I have noticed. In fact I find quite a few cars pull over to make room.


T

[swbarnett]

I have not (yet?) had any adverse reaction to my splitting that I have noticed. In fact I find quite a few cars pull over to make room.
I'd say with your attitude things are likely to stay that way. You seem to be on to it.

In over ten years of splitting on Auckland's motorways (northern and southern and sometimes northwestern) I've had maybe one or two drivers try to block me. No big deal really. I was riding in a way that it was not a safety issue and I just changed lanes and passed them anyway. I have, however had a large number of drivers make way for me. Over the past two years in particular (southern) it's a daily occurrence.

[Big Dog]

I am still kinda new to this lane splitting thing - I travel from Massey in west Auckland to Greenlane (via Northwestern) for work. When I got the job I decided dragging a V6 Commodore there everyday would drain my patience and bank account (from gas costs).

So a little 250 cruiser was commissioned along with my (now) provisional.

I follow couple of self-set rules.

* If moving at over 30kmh - no need to split - filter at worst
* Split at a SLOW speed and acknowledge the best I can anyone that moves over and makes room
* If driver changes lane in front of me (didn't see me or otherwise) don't make a big deal of it (Beemer did this the other day - when he realized I was there and moved way over to let me split - a quick thumbs up on the way past to let him know "all good"
* Indicate to let all know what I intend to do
* No rev bombs - just wait, an opening will come along soon
* Move out of the way of the more experienced guys and clearly indicate to go ahead


I have not (yet?) had any adverse reaction to my splitting that I have noticed. In fact I find quite a few cars pull over to make room.


T
Yes. Sounds awful familiar.
I should be clearer based on how the terms are used these days: I almost never split but I do filter daily.


To be fair almost none of that was from the last 5-6 years. As the general flow of traffic has gotten worse and the duration of rush hour stretched from 1.5 hours to close to 3 people become more resigned and less affected by seeing someone cruise past while they are stuck.
I suspect this is why I always found the other motorways friendlier.

I also noticed a massive drop in driver aggression around the time Sons of Anarchy hit or screens.

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[RDJ]

The older I get, the less inclined I am to rely on the forbearance / tolerance of a North-of-the-Bombay-Hills-entitled juvenile driver in a turbocharged Japanese import... Just My Opinion. Your Mileage (and Survival) may be better... I certainly hope so.

[chasio]

No worse than a cyclist falling off then?

My pick is that yes, it would be worse.

There'd be a lot less kinetic energy available to transfer into the rider from a 10kg pushie compared to 200kg plus of motorized contraption, so you shouldn't fly as far and/or have something as heavy smashing into you (or you into something for that matter). And it's not really a problem getting a leg caught under a pushie, either.

YMMV

[Berries]

Look, I just get annoyed with people who are holier than thou when it comes to clothing. If you don't crash it doesn't matter in the slightest what you are wearing. If you do crash then you better be wearing everything you can. The moral is wear what you like, just don't crash.

HGGR.

[nelubian]

When I started commuting through the Onewa road (North) I didn't split/filter. But even though I thought drivers hated me.
When I started considering that drivers don't see me, I'd started noticing that some drivers were giving me a way.
But bus drivers ... some good, some not really. Those guys don't regret anyone, cars suffer as well.

[Oakie]

Got passed by a guy doing this on a Scorpio today. Both lanes were up to about 30kph accelerating away from lights and he must have passed us about 50kph. Not really a safe looking manouevre.

[Mike.Gayner]

Got passed by a guy doing this on a Scorpio today. Both lanes were up to about 30kph accelerating away from lights and he must have passed us about 50kph. Not really a safe looking manouevre.

Passing cars doing 30km/h at a delta of 20km/h? What's not safe there?

[Oakie]

Passing cars doing 30km/h at a delta of 20km/h? What's not safe there?

He must have been struggling for control as he didn't wave when he passed me.