Livestock experiences

[awa355]

Not nice for the chap who got gored. I hope he makes it.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/waikato-times/news/70157018/Man-gored-in-bull-attack-police

I was rabbit shooting on a run off years ago, the owner grazed about 50 bulls on the place. The bulls seemed to be Fresian x's. Long legged and with attitudes, and they could wind up into a fair gallop. I soon found that most of the fences were half down, gates hanging from one hinge and bulls in small groups that would follow me along the fencelines bellowing away. Not fun.

An old farmer told me of his uncle being killed by a Jersey bull knocking the chap to the ground and driving the front knees and head into the uncles body.

Any one else had the wind put up them by bulls or horses?

[F5 Dave]

I stop at Bulls for petrol and sometimes food. Living life on the edge.

Good signs though.

[tri boy]

Bull's are male.
Very easy to understand their mood and temperament.

It's those freck'n females that you have to watch out for.

[Akzle]

i read the title and frankly, i thought this thread was going somewhere else entirely :whistle:

[unstuck]

Had a good old dance around a tree for about an hour in southwestland once, up the Arawhata valley, by a big old bull.. There are still wild cattle in there and boy are they fierce. Another time just below Haast a wild scrub cow attacked the ute we were in on the beach, but my mate didn't like his ute getting bashed up so out with the shotgun and put it in her ear.
Had a wild old billy goat bale 3 of us up at the base of a waterfall in the coramandel ranges once, but a well aimed rock from myself soon made him change his mind.

Trust you Akzel, was gonna share a couple of stories for you too, but there are to many sensitive bastards around here who may start crying if we went down that road.:msn-wink:
Anyway, if off back into the mountains, their is a pretty little Thar with my name on it.:devil2:

[ellipsis]

...recently I was working out in one of our remote bays...two small birds, I didn't even see what they were, had an airborne scrap and used my head as some kind of cover or shelter...it kind of freaked me for the few seconds they were flying into my face and around my head...I had no idea what was happening...I've been attacked on numerous occasions by Magpies, but this was different...

[Motu]

Back when Coromandel north of Colville had no fences, there were just gates and cattle stops, had run ins with bulls, which used to roam on the road. They stood their ground and lunged at you as you went past...scary shit.

[puddytat]

Horses generally arnt aggressive...with them it'll be a reaction to being frightened.
Weanlings & younger horses will chase dogs especially , if there's more than one of them (horses). They are extremely accurate when they are at full tilt....we had a cat called Bean who like all our cats are pretty savvy around the horses, ( the riding horses don't give a fuck if they walk around between their legs) who got caught out in the middle of a paddock.The two yearlings saw him & charged. Bean flattened himself into the ground & as the yearlings flew past at full tilt one of them struck out at him with a hind leg & smashed poor ole Beans skull.....
Stallions are a different story & Colts can be dodgy too. As a youngster I was chased & picked up by a 2 year old Colt who bit me on the shoulder and flicked me a couple of metres to one side. That was my own fault though as I didn't know any better & I was trespassing on someones land so I could go & see "the pretty horses".
Our Stallion is pretty chilled really,but I never have my back to him. I don't trust him & he don't trust me.While the Mrs can do what she likes with him.....she even trims his hooves.

Our Bull is mellow as, but he is a Hereford & he is always with either the young steers but 3/4 of the year he is with his girls.
He likes a scratch. But he is a bull & so I keep an eye on him.
Breeds like some of the Dairy cross shit are always A tad dodgy & keep well fucking clear of Jersey Bulls.

[jasonu]

I stop at Bulls for petrol and sometimes food. Living life on the edge.

Good signs though.

My brother and his family are moving to Bulls next week. They will be the first of our family to live there in nearly 40 years.

[98tls]

Goats...we kill them at work around once a month and theres always one that wants to take you out,hate the stinking things though they do provide a few laughs long as its someone else in the firing line.

[ellipsis]

flew past at full tilt one of them struck out at him with a hind leg & smashed poor ole Beans skull.....




...I'm always amazed at how thick some townies are about bringing their dogs to the country. I have always told dog owning visitors, 'there's the leash tied to the fence, hook your dog to it'...most have some naive idea that their dogs are not like other dogs and are well behaved...they get the same message, reinforced by 'or fuck off...one belligerent woman whose Chihuahua was so precious that it couldn't even be touched by other people or around other dogs refused, and wouldn't believe the danger that our neighbouring cockies working horse Trev was to her precious pooch...the cockie's work dogs wouldn't even go near Trev...Trev hates dogs...last sighting of the little homo dog was a Chihuahua racing off to snap at the heels of the big animal in the paddock next door, a bit of a neigh and snort and a Chihuahua about twenty feet up in the air...fucked the stupid bitch's day and killed the canine rat...we got blamed for her dog's demise...I roared with laughter when they fucked off and gave Trev a carrot...




...more damage from arseholes and their dogs...

http://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/news/70162401/dogs-kill-20-sheep-in-overnight-attack


...and a result...wonders never cease...

http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/farming/sheep/70213615/dogs-shot-after-christchurch-sheep-mauling

[Metastable]

Around these parts we do have wild horses that are roam around in packs. When riding dirt, they usually keep to themselves. Big buggers! There is also livestock (not wild, they are tagged) in some of the mountain areas. They free range out there. You do have to be careful when driving/riding/hiking in those parts. Mind you I have walked past them on a trail and they didn't seem to care.

Of course - the ones you have to be aware of are the Moose and Elk - they are way bigger than a dirt bike..... then there are the Grizzlies/Cougars (not the 40+ year old variety :) ) - hopefully they hear us coming and screw off before we are ever close. :D

[george formby]

Once came around a hairpin bend, late at night, in rain and mist, on the Coromandel, in a car... to be totally flummoxed by what I saw. A few black, mainly, and white cows. Hit the brakes and no dramas but it took awhile to figure out it was bloody cows on the road. Eerie experience.

Shit. Watched 2 bikes go down on thick cow shit in a corner. Most unpleasant. The slurry got in everywhere.

I stopped for a Johnny Riddle in a layby up north once and and the resident cock gave me a nasty pecking. I think it thought my pecker was food.

If you want to stock proof a dog put it in a shed full of hay bales with a ram in it's winter fleece. Or chuck it into the stock yard when it's full.

[Virago]

...I was rabbit shooting on a run off years ago, the owner grazed about 50 bulls on the place. The bulls seemed to be Fresian x's. Long legged and with attitudes, and they could wind up into a fair gallop. I soon found that most of the fences were half down, gates hanging from one hinge and bulls in small groups that would follow me along the fencelines bellowing away. Not fun...

Had a similar experience a few years back. Went fishing at my usual spot on the Taieri River. I went to walk down to the river through the usual paddock, but was met by a stroppy bull. No worries, I could walk down the adjacent paddock. Bravely I walked along the fence line with this bull stalking me. I started tapping the fence as I walked with my fishing rod, this served to outrage him more - a fine display of challenge and bellowing. I was so engrossed in my brave little game I wasn't watching ahead. I looked up - only 20 metres ahead was an open gate. After I had finished crapping my pants I rapidly backtracked - not quite as bravely.

[FJRider]

only 20 metres ahead was an open gate. After I had finished crapping my pants I rapidly backtracked - not quite as bravely.

so .... closing the gate was not an option .. ??

[husaberg]

Not nice for the chap who got gored. I hope he makes it.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/waikato-times/news/70157018/Man-gored-in-bull-attack-police

I was rabbit shooting on a run off years ago, the owner grazed about 50 bulls on the place. The bulls seemed to be Fresian x's. Long legged and with attitudes, and they could wind up into a fair gallop. I soon found that most of the fences were half down, gates hanging from one hinge and bulls in small groups that would follow me along the fencelines bellowing away. Not fun.

An old farmer told me of his uncle being killed by a Jersey bull knocking the chap to the ground and driving the front knees and head into the uncles body.

Any one else had the wind put up them by bulls or horses?

Bulls are generally pretty easy to deal with as they are not flighty.
They know they are tougher than you so generally don't give a shit.

I guy I know son was killed while loading a large service bull. But it was a freak occurrence more to do with shear size than any aggresion
In my experience a beef cow with calf at foot is far more dangerous.
Jersey bulls esp yearling and 2 year olds do have aggression far exceeding there size.
When people are running beef bull generally the mobs are keep below 50 in order to let the pecking order be sorted. (they fight when the order is not clear)
If you have ever seen how strong a Large beef bull is lifting another up they are to be treated with respect.
In the 20 or so years I dealt with Cattle I can honestly say I have only had 3 scares and a few bruises, but all of them have been me taking short cuts.

Far more people are injured by sheep.

[Virago]

...Far more people are injured by sheep.

Or in Akzle's case - goats.

[husaberg]

Or in Akzle's case - goats.

Granted, but he eats the goat afterwards, I hope that's what he meant. who cares he's a JAFFA.

[F5 Dave]

We just had a supposedly free range chicken over for dinner. In some rosemary and honey. I'm not sure if violence was involved. They can be pretty fierce I understand. There were potatoes involved.

[Flip]

When I was younger we has one agressive bull on the family dairy farm.All I can say is that he was delicious.

[awa355]

I have watched a Pole Angus bull and a younger Friesan bull have a fair ding dong for the best part of the day. What an impressive display, The Friesan had just been unloaded, and the two were roaring at each other from 100 yards apart. They hit each other head on at speed. the bellowing, the dust, The outcome was pretty much a draw.

Awesome to watch.

[husaberg]

I have watched a Pole Angus bull and a younger Friesan bull have a fair ding dong for the best part of the day. What an impressive display, The Friesan had just been unloaded, and the two were roaring at each other from 100 yards apart. They hit each other head on at speed. the bellowing, the dust, The outcome was pretty much a draw.

Awesome to watch.

Funniest thing I have seen is the guy who used to run a Donkey with his bulls, he said it stopped them fighting.
I couldn't figure it out so I asked him how th eheck that works
He said the Donkey bites the shit out of any of them that are fighting.
The only trouble was the donkey was bloody nuts and was bloody worse to handle than the Bulls and the racket those things make.

[Grumph]

Funniest thing I have seen is the guy who used to run a Donkey with his bulls, he said it stopped them fighting.
I couldn't figure it out so I asked him how th eheck that works
He said the Donkey bites the shit out of any of them that are fighting.
The only trouble was the donkey was bloody nuts and was bloody worse to handle than the Bulls and the racket those things make.

You've just described how MNZ has run for the last few years.....

[awa355]

Funniest thing I have seen is the guy who used to run a Donkey with his bulls, he said it stopped them fighting..

I've heard that before.

To be honest the meanest critters out there in the big outdoors are those lil' fuckers wearing yellow and black.

[Akzle]

I've heard that before.

To be honest the meanest critters out there in the big outdoors are those lil' fuckers wearing yellow and black.

???

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a3/Aptenodytes_forsteri_-Snow_Hill_Island,_Antarctica_-adults_and_juvenile-8.jpg

[PrincessBandit]

My only experience with live stock on the road taught me of the most important lesson when meeting a herd on the road - wind up your windows! (tail swish...) Probably doesn't apply anymore since lots of areas seem to have stock underpasses these days.

[Paul in NZ]

I used to walk up the Robinson River to a little spot that still held a few red deer (alas not more). The Robinson flows into the Upper Grey River so its West Coast back country.

Access was through a farmed area of river flats where they pretty well turned out steer calves to fatten into a semi fenced area. You got the impression these stroppy buggers didn't see too many people and they were always very very curious. They were in a mob of 50 plus so when there were charging towards you there was a fair old din like the Charge of the Light brigade... More than once the rifle was off the shoulder and we were considering a warning shot through the ear... But they always stopped short and glared... It used to give me the shits frankly...

[Banditbandit]

I had sheep when I lived a bit further south .. I liked them with garlic and rosemary .. potatoes, kumera, peas ...

Livestock can be delicious ..

[rambaldi]

Funniest thing I have seen is the guy who used to run a Donkey with his bulls, he said it stopped them fighting.
I couldn't figure it out so I asked him how th eheck that works
He said the Donkey bites the shit out of any of them that are fighting.
The only trouble was the donkey was bloody nuts and was bloody worse to handle than the Bulls and the racket those things make.

I heard they use Donkey's to protect herds near the jungle in South America. You get cats and what have you come out of the jungle and go for the animals. The donkey's wreck their shit but only if there is only one Donkey. If there are two then they don't care and just protect each other, not the rest of the herds.

[Motu]

they were always very very curious.

Sheep and horses will run away from a bike, but cows are very nosey. We used to get a friendly farmer to let us practice trials on their farms - we'd set up a couple of nasty sections in a stream somewhere and play around. After a while we'd be ringed in by cows watching what we were doing. Move somewhere else in the same paddock and they would crowd around there too. Never had a problem with them, but like human spectators, they didn't have a clue where to stand and not be in the way.

[buggerit]

As a young fella, a mate and I were trying to get a stroppy shorthorn cow with a new calf to the yards a couple of
miles away across open paddocks. We could not get anywhere near her without her charging so came up
with the plan that my mate rides in on his bike and lets her chase him a bit while I grab the calf and chuck it
over my tank and fuck off to the yards with the cow in hot pursuit, this worked well until the calf slipped
a leg between the head and the sparkplug lead and kicked it off , bugger! , second plan , run like fuck for
the fence and hope shes more interested in reclaiming her calf!

[Oakie]

Was at my bro-in-law's rural property and happened to see some hares a couple of paddocks down. Steers in paddock one - hares in number 2. Grabbed the .22 for a bit of fun and snuck down about 3/4 of the distance of the cow paddock in cover of scrub. Hares still happily doing their thing. I had to break cover for the last 30 or so metres but stayed low so the hares wouldn't see me. Unfortunately, the steers did see me. They ran and bellowed their way over to me just out of curiousity and pretty much like an excited dog waiting for the next throw of the stick. The last I saw of the hares was three tails hightailing for the other side of their paddock while I could almost hear the steers saying "whaddya doin', whaddya doin' ... can we play too ... huh... can we, can we? Big mooing brown-eyed bastards!

[kiwi cowboy]

Once came around a hairpin bend, late at night, in rain and mist, on the Coromandel, in a car... to be totally flummoxed by what I saw. A few black, mainly, and white cows. Hit the brakes and no dramas but it took awhile to figure out it was bloody cows on the road. Eerie experience.

Shit. Watched 2 bikes go down on thick cow shit in a corner. Most unpleasant. The slurry got in everywhere.

I stopped for a Johnny Riddle in a layby up north once and and the resident cock gave me a nasty pecking. I think it thought my pecker was food.

If you want to stock proof a dog put it in a shed full of hay bales with a ram in it's winter fleece. Or chuck it into the stock yard when it's full.


Doing that with a dog will only work sometimes.
With some dogs as the dog gets hurt by the ram or stock in yards they snap back out of fear and protection from hurt and soon realise that attack and aggression is a way of keeping the stock off them thereby turning them hard and aggressive.

Been almost bitten by a stallion when working on a stud farm (same stallion tried chasing me out of paddock once but I had a steel pole he was gonna wear if he didn't chicken out). He had bitten 3 people I new off before I handled him.

Been chased by cattle,horses,rams,pigs(4 legged) but the stallions are the most dangerous as they can be cunning and watch and wait there chance so never get complacent.


1/ An old fella I worked with and another work mate were trying to get a bull into the yards that was hipped ( lame in the back leg due to a hip injury) and was quite slow and my work mate was walking him up the road.
The bull got a bit tired and stopped and the guy walked up behind him to get him moving again but the bull turned and chased him back down the road.
The old fella said he had never laughed so hard cos the workmate had a gammy leg and walked with a limp too so the guy was limping/running along with the bull limping/running along right behind him.

[puddytat]

Been chased by cattle,horses,rams,pigs(4 legged) but the stallions are the most dangerous as they can be cunning and watch and wait there chance so never get complacent.
.

A good friend of mine had an Arab stallion that he'd done many miles on & had had for years.....then one day in the round pen the stallion turned on him & nearly completely ripped his bicep off......:shit:
The Stallion is no longer....:ar15:

[husaberg]

A good friend of mine had an Arab stallion that he'd done many miles on & had had for years.....then one day in the round pen the stallion turned on him & nearly completely ripped his bicep off......:shit:
The Stallion is no longer....:ar15:

That's what you get for biting the hand that feed you.

[awa355]

What is Spanish for "FUUUCK "?:shit::shit:

http://i1074.photobucket.com/albums/w420/awa355/ouch.jpg

[husaberg]

What is Spanish for "FUUUCK :

Pretty sure its either Selma or Selena.
That bull fighters feeling horny.

[Laava]

We had a moody old cow that had slipped a calf and a calf that was looking for a Mum and try as we might, all the old tricks, the cow would just bunt the calf away. Lucky for the calf we had tied the cow up in the yards so the poor lil fucker had at least got a feed in! Anyhow the old neighbour came over to see if he could help as the pair were still in the yards and suggested setting the dog on the calf. Fuck me that worked! The old cow came bellowing over, udder swinging through 270, trying to stomp the dog and the deal was struck!

[Laava]

What is Spanish for "FUUUCK "?:shit::shit:

Anooooose!

[puddytat]

We had a moody old cow that had slipped a calf and a calf that was looking for a Mum and try as we might, all the old tricks, the cow would just bunt the calf away. Lucky for the calf we had tied the cow up in the yards so the poor lil fucker had at least got a feed in! Anyhow the old neighbour came over to see if he could help as the pair were still in the yards and suggested setting the dog on the calf. Fuck me that worked! The old cow came bellowing over, udder swinging through 270, trying to stomp the dog and the deal was struck!

I'll remember that one:yes:
Had you fellas tried the old skinning the dead one trick? I'm assuming you had, just wanting to know for sure...

[puddytat]

What is Spanish for "FUUUCK "?:shit::shit:



BUCK......
as in SHELFORD. ( you know, that Rugby fella):rolleyes:

[Laava]

I'll remember that one:yes:
Had you fellas tried the old skinning the dead one trick? I'm assuming you had, just wanting to know for sure...

Yep, that is a last resort trick now!

[ellipsis]

...a story about a turkey...

... one Saturday morning I had three chord of firewood on the back of my tipper, a D5 Ford...it could rumble along at 70-80 k tops...the firewood belonged to an old couple in our town who had shifted closer to the city...I was dropping it off...

...a bunch of turkeys roamed free on a farm about 10 ks down the road from here...my son. about 10 at the time was coming for the drive...

...the turkey was just being a turkey...I rumbled around a corner and the turkey decided just that moment that it would try out flying for fun...it ran up the road beside the truck, got itself airborne and headed off down SH75 toward the city, as we were...it was flying faster than the D5, but hey, the sun was shining and life was rumbling by at 60 kph...

...things took a serious turn for the worse for the turkey...the silly fucking thing was a hundred yards ahead of us and winning by heaps but it got into some kind of turbulence and couldn't correct the situation...my son was the first to notice... I was rumbling into the blue yonder at 70 k by then, but it was far too late to alter history...

...the turkey either couldn't handle the situation or had proved it's point...I was as close as I'll get to being kamikaze'd by a flying mass of meat and bone it seemed...I immediately thought, as it got bigger in my vision, like a really big turkey... getting bigger by the moment, 'This could hurt, the windscreens gone, wank fucking turkey'...it fucked up it's mission to kill and hit about a foot below the windscreen...

...we stopped a wee way down the road, walked back to check this turkey out...the thing was fucked but still alive...my boy was laughing and I had to pull him up and remind him of the gravity of the situation...'this fuckin' idiotic bird just dented my truck', I explained, 'and the fuckin' idiot thing is still alive, fuck it'...my boy continued to giggle...we dragged it back to the truck and threw it on the back...my son mentioned its alive state and shouldn't we do something about it...my things to dispatch living things, encountered on the highway was limited, so I chose a big ring of firewood to squash it's head with...having done this we resumed our journey...

...eventually we turned left into a, closer to town, rural property... the old bloke was there to guide us to the tipping spot where we dropped three chord of firewood...the load slid off and last off was the turkey...my boy told the old bloke the story and then they were both laughing about this stupid fucking turkey...then the turkey had a wee bit to add to the conversation, just a feeble squawk, but a living turkey squawk...

...the old bloke cut the poor fucking turkeys head off with an axe...

...end of story for turkey, but the tale doesn't end there...

...my daughters 21st, a long while after the turkey hit the freezer...a long, long time... was a big do at home with five big baskets in the hangi and lots of kaimoana and a heap of piss and people...the turkey had ended up in the hangi even though I thought twice about it...I put it in and never told a soul...at the end of a big day of piss and food and general mayhem a bloke was leaving and doing the big pissed thank you speech...it ended with, 'that turkey in the hangi was delicious'...