Bluetooth headsets?

[koi]

Yo so I'm looking at getting a bluetooth headset and basically it's come down to the Scala Packtalk (having just beaten the Sena 20s), but I was just wondering what experience others have had with this/any brand and any recommendations or anything anyone has to offer please :^)

[Gremlin]

First question is what exactly do you want from it?

Scala / Sena are the major competitors, you'll have users of both voicing their one is better (I'm on the Sena side for the record). If your requirements are connecting to phone/GPS and other basic devices, then either should do the job.

If you want to connect to other people then it's more tricky. Compatibility between brands is advertised but limited (can't have as many devices in comms as if everyone had the same brand) and I haven't really seen it working in a practical demonstration yet. A group I'm in has a number of Sena units, to the point that the major issue with connecting is pairing with the wrong people as most try it at once. ie, instead of the person you want, you get someone else around the corner :laugh:

I use Sena a lot, no problem. Depending again on your requirement, the 10 range may be perfectly fine, and cheaper than the 20... I've been using 10 for the last couple of years, have a 10R on my helmet permanently installed, and a 10B to install on other helmets.

One note on the 20S is that a lot of early units had problems that should now be fixed with updated firmware, but unsure what, if any, problems still exist. Not too surprising with any new product from anyone...

[koi]

First question is what exactly do you want from it?

Scala / Sena are the major competitors, you'll have users of both voicing their one is better (I'm on the Sena side for the record). If your requirements are connecting to phone/GPS and other basic devices, then either should do the job.

If you want to connect to other people then it's more tricky. Compatibility between brands is advertised but limited (can't have as many devices in comms as if everyone had the same brand) and I haven't really seen it working in a practical demonstration yet. A group I'm in has a number of Sena units, to the point that the major issue with connecting is pairing with the wrong people as most try it at once. ie, instead of the person you want, you get someone else around the corner :laugh:

I use Sena a lot, no problem. Depending again on your requirement, the 10 range may be perfectly fine, and cheaper than the 20... I've been using 10 for the last couple of years, have a 10R on my helmet permanently installed, and a 10B to install on other helmets.

One note on the 20S is that a lot of early units had problems that should now be fixed with updated firmware, but unsure what, if any, problems still exist. Not too surprising with any new product from anyone...

Looking mostly to be able to talk to other people when we're riding together and also the phone call/gps stuff, and listening to music will be a big part of it too so good audio quality is something I'm looking for too. The Scala seems to have better (claimed) distance coverage and also self-adjusts volume so that it can always be heard and that's something that sounds really good to me so???
I know a couple people with the 20s but no one with the Scala so might go read some reviews and things to sort things out a bit better

Thanks for the input!!

[Blackbird]

I'm with Gremlin re Sena. Good quality and reliable. I have the older SMH 10 model which is good for pairing with 4 units compared with 8 (I think) for the 20s. Battery life without recharge is at least 10 hours continuously on for comms. One thing I will mention is like so many things in NZ, the main importer charges an arm and a leg. At the time when my unit (a pair) cost ~$650 in NZ, I brought mine in direct from the US for about $410 inc shipping. Exchange rate has widened a bit since then but still good buys to be had.

Edit: the large dial on the Sena for functions and volume makes adjustments with winter gloves a piece of cake!

[Gremlin]

Yup, ok, so if you're talking to others, check what they have, and that will kinda dictate which you choose. You can go with something else, but it's things like, if you link a Scala into a Sena group, you can only have one, assuming you get it to work, as it uses universal intercom, meaning it uses the mobile link - ie, you can't have a mobile at that point.

Re range, you also have to set it up well. When setting them up (the Sena 10s at least) you're linking them like a chain. If you stuff this up, and link front and rear and then others off that, yep, it's not going to perform as well. I think the 20S has a party connection or something, haven't used it, so don't know the details.

Claimed distance means almost bugger all, as soon as you go round a hill you stand a good chance of losing the link (line of sight obviously). Real distance also reduces as soon as you add more and more units into a connection.

Re music quality, I have upgraded speakers on my 10R, and it still doesn't come close to a wired comm unit I have. Thems the breaks with wireless....

[koi]

Re music quality, I have upgraded speakers on my 10R, and it still doesn't come close to a wired comm unit I have. Thems the breaks with wireless....

Whoa I never considered the prospect of a wired headset, how do they work??
Sorry for all the questions ahah I tried googling this just now but ended up with a bunch of Aliexpress links instead... :confused:

[Holy Roller]

Used to use a Pinfold setup with a prs radio hard wired worked very well now for the training I use a Interfone unit Bluetooth line of sight claimed 1200m it's adequate for what I want. Even used it for the Mrs on the back when I first got it but not so much now. At $100 per unit it is at the lower end of the market but does what I want. When I did my advanced rider course the Sena unit kept coming unplugged from the headset whereas the Interfone unit seems to have a better plug just my observation

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[Gremlin]

Whoa I never considered the prospect of a wired headset, how do they work??
Different technology altogether and not easily compatible with bluetooth headsets (coz they're not bluetooth at the core).

Different thread entirely. :D You want a bluetooth headset to link to other ones.

http://www.webbikeworld.com/ is a good place for solid honest reviews.

[Big Dog]

+1 to the BT interphone. But need to keep in mind gremlins earlier statement. On my second set first set lasted around 5 years.

What do you want it for?
If your friends already chatter get what they got.



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[Bruce Lee]

Sena 20s works well for me. The firmware seems to have eliminated the issues people wrote about. I use mine mainly for music and when going distance, feed the radar and gps in as well. Purchased new via Ebay when the $$ was good so avoided the high local prices.

[slofox]

I'd like one that could connect to the radar detector as well as the other usual stuff. The RD has its own dedicated headset - means I have two in the helmet. One would mean less nuisance value.

TPX (make the RD) offer a bluetooth connector for about $50 but I am too tight to buy one...cheaper than a new sound system but not as much fun.

I have an old Blue Ant Interphone that has been going for about 6 years with ne'er a blip. It talks to my smartarsephone as well - which a fancier in-car system has trouble finding. Maybe simple is good.

If I had enough money to spend I could go crazy on this shit...

[Mike.Gayner]

I've just bought this, which talks to my phone and alarms me via my Sena. I've just started using it, will let you know my thoughts in a few weeks. Works well so far, shit loads of false laser alerts though.

http://www.amazon.com/Cobra-Electronics-iRAD-230-Community-Based/dp/B00HK5B3PO

[koi]

Update I found a Midland BT Next thing for $55 on backorder (oh boy) so hopefully when (or if lol) it arrives it'll be good; they go for like $300 on ebay and the reviews I've read are really good so??

Thanks for the help everyone!! :^)

[Gremlin]

Looks like it's circa 2011-2012 technology? Could be why it's so cheap.

No idea if it's going to connect to your riding buddies, but make sure the devices have the latest firmware...

[Bruce Lee]

I'd like one that could connect to the radar detector as well as the other usual stuff. The RD has its own dedicated headset - means I have two in the helmet. One would mean less nuisance value.

TPX (make the RD) offer a bluetooth connector for about $50 but I am too tight to buy one...cheaper than a new sound system but not as much fun.

I have an old Blue Ant Interphone that has been going for about 6 years with ne'er a blip. It talks to my smartarsephone as well - which a fancier in-car system has trouble finding. Maybe simple is good.

If I had enough money to spend I could go crazy on this shit...

I had the BT for the tpx before and didn't want two devices hanging off the helmet. The 20s is not perfect as it only has one A2DP profile so I had to splash out for a SM10 making it an expensive solution.

I guess that's the price you pay if you like your toys like I do.

[vifferman]

I use a Sena SMH10 EVERY day during my commute, linked to my poor orphaned Nokia N8-00 (farking Elop, Micro$oft's Nokia wrecking henchman GRRRRRR!!!) to listen to music on the way to/from work. The coolest thing is using the GPS navigation feature of the N8 while listening to music: it very nicely dips the music volume to give directions then resumes. Taking/making phonecalls is a piece of piss too. The helmet is an important part of this too; my Shoei XR1100 has nice pockets that the speakers of the headset fit into, and the removable lining means the wires are neatly tucked away. The last part of the equation is wearing some Howard Leight earplugs, which aren't super quiet - just enough to kill the wind noise while letting the sound from the headphones through.

Oh - anyone want an SM10, new, in the box? You can use it to plug into a radar detector, S/W radio, walkie-talkie or whatever? I bought it in a fit of enthusiasm and have never used it.:rolleyes:

[Mike.Gayner]

Oh - anyone want an SM10, new, in the box? You can use it to plug into a radar detector, S/W radio, walkie-talkie or whatever? I bought it in a fit of enthusiasm and have never used it.:rolleyes:

How much you want for it?

[Hagakure]

I could be keen, been looking at the dual packs out of Aus, bit of a rip at retailers here.

[breakaway]

I got the low profile Sena SMH-10R. It was not as good as I expected. The speakers are too large and make the helmet uncomfortable. My pillion can't seem to understand me over 80 km/H. I however can hear them fine. I tried moving my mic around but it didn't seem to improve things much.

Only used it on a couple rides though. Perhaps I am doing something wrong but really I'm disappointed with my purchase.

Anyone got any tips?

[Gremlin]

Use the SMH10R in my own helmet. Speaker size is related to the pocket to specific helmets. Ie, if the pocket is too small, then the speakers will seem large. Only had a problem with upgraded speakers. Some helmets take speakers fine, some are a struggle.

It's really important to have the mic orientated correctly and speakers in the correct place. If the speakers in the receiving helmet are not directly over the ear then performance will suffer. Sometimes just turning it up a little can help. Remember that Sena remembers volume levels for each device.

[nzspokes]

I can only find the SMH10 not the R version, is it the same?

[koi]

I can only find the SMH10 not the R version, is it the same?

the 10r is smaller bc the battery attaches to the back of the helmet so it's not as bulky, but i think the functions are the same

[nzspokes]

the 10r is smaller bc the battery attaches to the back of the helmet so it's not as bulky, but i think the functions are the same

So just for intercom the 10 is fine then?

Used one today and thought it went well.

[skippa1]

I'd like one that could connect to the radar detector as well as the other usual stuff. The RD has its own dedicated headset - means I have two in the helmet. One would mean less nuisance value.

TPX (make the RD) offer a bluetooth connector for about $50 but I am too tight to buy one...cheaper than a new sound system but not as much fun.

I have an old Blue Ant Interphone that has been going for about 6 years with ne'er a blip. It talks to my smartarsephone as well - which a fancier in-car system has trouble finding. Maybe simple is good.

If I had enough money to spend I could go crazy on this shit...


I had the BT for the tpx before and didn't want two devices hanging off the helmet. The 20s is not perfect as it only has one A2DP profile so I had to splash out for a SM10 making it an expensive solution.

I guess that's the price you pay if you like your toys like I do.
I have the TPX helmet mounted led, works great just mounted in the peripheral vision rather than have the audio squarking through the shelmet mounted speakers. I use a Interphone F4 BT as do those i ride with, they work really well and sound is good for music too.

[Gremlin]

I can only find the SMH10 not the R version, is it the same?
Technically the SMH-10B. Two buttons (the jog dial and on the back, and jog dial rotates)
<img src=http://images1.revzilla.com/product_images/0026/3986/sena_smh10_headset_zoom.jpg>

The SMH-10R (3 buttons on the face - the two status lights seperate them)
<img src=https://cdn.rideapart.com/wp-content/uploads/2013%2F04%2F01.jpg>

Bit of a comparison here actually between the models: http://www.webbikeworld.com/motorcycle-intercoms/sena-smh10r/review.htm

It's worth noting some units suit some helmets better than others. The R is more of a permanent but modular setup, as you easily can replace the battery. However, the Nolan N104 (which I use) has a plastic skirt around the bottom, which prevents the B pinch mount from working. I've have to stick a mount on instead, which wouldn't work for temporary installs. I have an R on my N104 permanently, and a B to put on other people's helmets for a few hours.

Most have to stick the R battery on the back of the helmet and you have some cables, however, the N104 has a battery compartment for the Ncom system, so it's perfect for the R and it's a very clean install. On the flipside, I have to take the whole helmet to charge the unit, whereas the B can come off the bracket and is less cumbersome to charge. Then again, some have broken B pins taking it off and on... which isn't a problem for the R as there are no pins... :D

If you're buying the jog dial SMH10B 2nd hand, make sure it has a USB port which means it's firmware can be upgraded (and charges via USB). The early releases are not USB, and the firmware can't be as easily upgraded).

[nzspokes]

Technically the SMH-10B. Two buttons (the jog dial and on the back, and jog dial rotates)
<img src=http://images1.revzilla.com/product_images/0026/3986/sena_smh10_headset_zoom.jpg>

The SMH-10R (3 buttons on the face - the two status lights seperate them)
<img src=https://cdn.rideapart.com/wp-content/uploads/2013%2F04%2F01.jpg>

Bit of a comparison here actually between the models: http://www.webbikeworld.com/motorcycle-intercoms/sena-smh10r/review.htm

It's worth noting some units suit some helmets better than others. The R is more of a permanent but modular setup, as you easily can replace the battery. However, the Nolan N104 (which I use) has a plastic skirt around the bottom, which prevents the B pinch mount from working. I've have to stick a mount on instead, which wouldn't work for temporary installs. I have an R on my N104 permanently, and a B to put on other people's helmets for a few hours.

Most have to stick the R battery on the back of the helmet and you have some cables, however, the N104 has a battery compartment for the Ncom system, so it's perfect for the R and it's a very clean install. On the flipside, I have to take the whole helmet to charge the unit, whereas the B can come off the bracket and is less cumbersome to charge. Then again, some have broken B pins taking it off and on... which isn't a problem for the R as there are no pins... :D

If you're buying the jog dial SMH10B 2nd hand, make sure it has a USB port which means it's firmware can be upgraded (and charges via USB). The early releases are not USB, and the firmware can't be as easily upgraded).

Nah looking new. Both versions of the 10 are $399Au. Cheapest here is $599.

[Hawkeye]

I got a pair of Sena S20's a few weeks ago. Love them. Commute every day with music. Paired with a Galaxy S5 and just put the phone into 'car mode'. Full voice control of the phone for phone/navigation/music/messages. Talked on the phone at 100k on the Welly motorway in rush hour and other end didn't even know I was on the bike. Pillion coms is great and my ribs are thanking me for the purchase. No more digs in the ribs for a coffee / toilet stop. Not tried pairing bike to bike yet but have used BT's in the past on a group tour and that worked great although the BT quality was nowhere near the S20's.
The one thing I did find. You do have to position the speakers and mike correctly. Partners wasn't quite right and had quite a bit of hassle with communication until I repositioned them and now everything is sweet.

[nzspokes]

Im a bit lost on this. but one question, if we get a Sena 10 or 10r will it connect with a Nolan system?

[Gremlin]

Im a bit lost on this. but one question, if we get a Sena 10 or 10r will it connect with a Nolan system?
Short answer... you don't know until you try.

There is univeral intercom functionality with Sena and others... but it's like asking a Kawasaki ECU to talk to a Suzuki engine... well, hopefully you understand the analogy.

If you stay with the same brand all round, you're guaranteed...

[banditrider]

Love my 20S. I've paired with 10's and had no problems. Battery has lasted up to 10.5 hours constantly pumping music and GPS instructions to me and when the battery went flat I just plugged it in and carried on. No issues with the unit but I do need to memorise more of the manual to get even more out of it. I have used the phone app to play with some of the settings - pretty neat.

[KoroJ]

Love my 20S. I've paired with 10's and had no problems. Battery has lasted up to 10.5 hours constantly pumping music and GPS instructions to me and when the battery went flat I just plugged it in and carried on. No issues with the unit but I do need to memorise more of the manual to get even more out of it. I have used the phone app to play with some of the settings - pretty neat.

Same. Phone Ap is much better for setter up a group. I was getting around 13hrs on the TT2000 and I have power packs for recharging the GoPro, phone and Sena on the go for the likes of the NI1600, when we're on the road for 20'ish hours. I have the speakers fitted for listening to the radio around town, but when I'm on a ride I plug the audio-plugs into the unit and I get much better audio quality through them as well as the protection.

[nzspokes]

Anybody got these?

http://www.thegadgetguys.co.nz/index.php/component/jcommerce/?env_url=p-5023-g3-bt-interphone-hifi-pair

Really all its wanted for is to talk to my partner on her bike, to tell her overtakes are clear etc.

[Big Dog]

Anybody got these?

http://www.thegadgetguys.co.nz/index.php/component/jcommerce/?env_url=p-5023-g3-bt-interphone-hifi-pair

Really all its wanted for is to talk to my partner on her bike, to tell her overtakes are clear etc.
I have the 6 rider 1000m version.
Fantastic. 6 rider version has more buttons so harder to use than my old gen 1 version.

Audio quality is significantly improved.

Tbh the big let down is the clip, they updated it to a weaker design.
I cut the moving L part of mine off and siliconed the clamp to the side of my helmet. But I use mine every day. If you are only using yours occasionally it might be OK.
Riding to and from work I get 12-19 ( listening to music and with occasional calls) hours riding time between charges.

I haven't used as an intercom but people are always surprised I am even on the road let alone on a motorcycle when they call. Above 100 it can get a little hard to hear, above 120 audio is somewhat distorted.

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[Hawkeye]

Anybody got these?

http://www.thegadgetguys.co.nz/index.php/component/jcommerce/?env_url=p-5023-g3-bt-interphone-hifi-pair

Really all its wanted for is to talk to my partner on her bike, to tell her overtakes are clear etc.

I have a pair of these collecting dust in a drawer. Had to replace the headset cables a couple of times because they're so thin they'd break.
Under 80K they work ok. Over 80K they became almost useless. I like to protect my hearing so wear ear plugs, which made the unit almost useless.
In order to hear them, I couldn't use plugs which meant I had to put up with the wind noise of the helmet.

As has been said, they changed the design and ended up having to glue the connector back on a couple of times.
Was originally just going to glue velco to the helmet and the unit and completely do away with the clamp.
Used them on a group tour ride and was great in the twisties where the speed was a little lower but allowed us to keep each other informed of hazards etc.

Have upgraded to Sena S20's and now realise why these interphones are so much cheaper. You get what you pay for.
However, As a cheap option, you may find them ok. And I would suggest purchasing a cheaper pair to see if you would actually use them or if the novelty wears off.

[Big Dog]

If you have gen 1 or 2 sets the cables are significantly thicker on the new models. Also my old model cables had been fine for over 100000km.
The old speakers would have been absolute shit with plugs in. They git really tinny if too loud.
I hear the new ones are good with custom plug's but have the same problem with disposable ones. They certainly have a lot more bass.

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[nzspokes]

Whats the Sena 5fm like?

[vifferman]

Just a comment about something that happened a few weeks ago. I received a call while I was riding along (well... two (2) calls 0- cut the first one off, as I forgot how to answer it), and I found it hard to talk, probably because of the earplugs: couldn't hear my own voice. I'd had no problems on previous calls, but IIRC, I wasn't wearing plugs then. So, I've activated the "Side Tone" option now (and read up on answering procedures), so that it feeds back some of the mic to the headphones, so I don't end up shouting to whoever's on the other end.
Here's summat else: hygiene. I wear the same pair of plugs for three to five days, but I'm not real careful about handling them, and I've had sore ears a few times; inner ear only once (got medicated drops for that), but more usually, just a surficial pain, which doesn't last but is, well... a bit of a pain.

[caspernz]

For what it's worth, Sena 20S on special with Radar Direct this month. Don't ask me any questions though, just bought one for $450 and have yet to experience the features.

[Mike.Gayner]

Whats the Sena 5fm like?

I have the SMH5 which is the same as the 5FM but without FM radio. Does everything I need it to do perfectly.

[Gremlin]

Whats the Sena 5fm like?
5 is a cut down version of 10. Less range, less ability to pair to other devices etc. Can't have 4 way intercom like 10 (similar to 10 can't have 8 way intercom like the 20).

[Mike.Gayner]

5 is a cut down version of 10. Less range, less ability to pair to other devices etc. Can't have 4 way intercom like 10 (similar to 10 can't have 8 way intercom like the 20).

Yeah pretty much, except the "ability to pair" - it's functionally identical in that respect. So if you're using it individually or with just a pillion (like me) then it's just a cheaper version of a functionally identical device.

[nzspokes]

Yeah pretty much, except the "ability to pair" - it's functionally identical in that respect. So if you're using it individually or with just a pillion (like me) then it's just a cheaper version of a functionally identical device.

For us its rider to rider.

[Big Dog]

Just a comment about something that happened a few weeks ago. I received a call while I was riding along (well... two (2) calls 0- cut the first one off, as I forgot how to answer it), and I found it hard to talk, probably because of the earplugs: couldn't hear my own voice. I'd had no problems on previous calls, but IIRC, I wasn't wearing plugs then. So, I've activated the "Side Tone" option now (and read up on answering procedures), so that it feeds back some of the mic to the headphones, so I don't end up shouting to whoever's on the other end.
Here's summat else: hygiene. I wear the same pair of plugs for three to five days, but I'm not real careful about handling them, and I've had sore ears a few times; inner ear only once (got medicated drops for that), but more usually, just a surficial pain, which doesn't last but is, well... a bit of a pain.
I used to get really sore ears using plugs. Even disposable ones. cracked and sometimes bleeding canal.
Only way to stop the pain was waxsol.
But then I started getting earache instead. That seems to be a carry over from years spent going swimming every day and scarring my drums.

I keep meaning to try custom plugs.



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[banditrider]

Custom plugs are the only way to go. I can sleep with mine in and wear for days on end. Also, can hear my 20S with them in no problems at all.

[Hawkeye]

Custom plugs are the only way to go. I can sleep with mine in and wear for days on end. Also, can hear my 20S with them in no problems at all.

Yeah completly agree. Best thing I ever did getting the customs. Use the S20 everyday whie commuting with the plugs in. Music nice and clear, and can talk on the phone without any issues.
Also great when you program *555 on the speed dial. :yeah:

[Blackbird]

Do Plugz for Lugz still exist or any recommendations for custom plug makers in the Auckland or Hamilton areas? That's the downside of living in Coromandel :laugh:

[Gremlin]

Do Plugz for Lugz still exist or any recommendations for custom plug makers in the Auckland or Hamilton areas? That's the downside of living in Coromandel :laugh:
Last logged into the forum in March this year.

This thread has some contact details you can try: http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/166395-Plugz-4-Lugz-in-Auckland

[Hawkeye]

Do Plugz for Lugz still exist or any recommendations for custom plug makers in the Auckland or Hamilton areas? That's the downside of living in Coromandel :laugh:

Sue from Plugz or Lugz used to visit this site regular but not sure if they are still around. I'm due for a replacement set so hopefully they will be at the Boxing Day races this year if I don't get to replace them before then.

[Blackbird]

Sue from Plugz or Lugz used to visit this site regular but not sure if they are still around. I'm due for a replacement set so hopefully they will be at the Boxing Day races this year if I don't get to replace them before then.


Last logged into the forum in March this year.

This thread has some contact details you can try: http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/166395-Plugz-4-Lugz-in-Auckland

Thanks guys! I made some a few years ago from 2 pot silicone and they worked fairly well but some professional ones would be good. I've seen the service advertised on audiologist websites and they charge like wounded bulls!

[banditrider]

I found that my new set (a few years old now) from http://kiwiplugs.co.nz/ a lot better than my old set from Plugs for Lugz. Softer, better sealing materail - although Plugs for Lugs may have changed their material by now.

[Gremlin]

I found that my new set (a few years old now) from http://kiwiplugs.co.nz/ a lot better than my old set from Plugs for Lugz. Softer, better sealing materail - although Plugs for Lugs may have changed their material by now.

You should probably check the site. Says :laugh:
Welcome to Kiwiplugs New Zealand

Sorry for any inconvenience ,we are closed for business for the foreseeable future.

I know Plugz 4 Lugz did change their compound a while back, not sure if it's a constantly evolving thing or what.

[banditrider]

You should probably check the site. Says :laugh:

I know Plugz 4 Lugz did change their compound a while back, not sure if it's a constantly evolving thing or what.


Hmmm, he's coming to work soon to make up some for our operators...

[Tazz]

These might be worth a mention.....:

http://www.rockshop.co.nz/shop/drums-percussion/ahead-custom-molded-earplugs.html


<img src="http://www.rockshop.co.nz/shop/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/450x345/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/a/h/ahead-custom-molded-earplugs-630-80.jpg"/>

[Blackbird]

Thanks Tazz :niceone: . It looks pretty similar to the kit I bought a few years ago which worked tolerably well. They looked a bit lumpy on the outside because I couldn't see too well when doing it but simply thinned them down with a kraft knife later on. I paid around $50, so the price is good.

[Tazz]

Thanks Tazz :niceone: . It looks pretty similar to the kit I bought a few years ago which worked tolerably well. They looked a bit lumpy on the outside because I couldn't see too well when doing it but simply thinned them down with a kraft knife later on. I paid around $50, so the price is good.

In your experience, do you think it would be possible to mould some ear buds (just the wee drivers) into them while you're at it?

[Blackbird]

In your experience, do you think it would be possible to mould some ear buds (just the wee drivers) into them while you're at it?

Not with my level of incompetence :facepalm: . Should be possible if someone helps.

[Big Dog]

These might be worth a mention.....:


Bought some of these Friday night.
Arrived Tuesday morning.
Made them up last night.
Tried them on way to work today.

Impressions after one ride.
* I was not ruthless enough removing the excess on the first one. Application of a razor may be required to lower the profile.
* significantly more noise reduction when stationary than any ear plug I have ever used before.
* this left me concerned I may not be able to hear my BT unit.
* Broadly across the spectrum, so not the underwater sound you normally get with the EVA type.
* a little awkward under the helmet. Refer point 1.
* moving the difference is massive. No cavitation in my ears. Which was the main reason for buying them, figuring the buy price is lower than constant rear infections from the air flow or hearing aids from the wind tunnel effect.
* my BT is now clear right up to 100 km.

Where I used to only be able to hear well enough to know I had to slow to 80 or 90 to hear the inbound caller clearly. Previously I had to leave it too quiet to hear at speed if I didn't want to hurt my ears when going slow. Now it sounds like the same volume and clarity all the way up the speed range. Albeit at a higher volume to start with.

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[Sue Rowles]

Does anyone know of any events at Manfeild, or similar event, where Plugz4Lugz could setup.