One for ye olde pharts?

[pritch]

The Yamaha XSR700



http://www.motorcyclenews.com/news/new-bikes/2015/july/yamaha-reveal-retro-inspired-xsr700-/

[Paul in NZ]

Bro - thats as retro as man... NOT.....

[awa355]

Nope, the tupperware under the tank, the radiator and the stubby exhaust kills it for me. Nothing like the XS650.

http://i1074.photobucket.com/albums/w420/awa355/XS2%20650%201972.jpg

[Moi]

[QUOTE=awa355;1130885343]Nope, the tupperware under the tank, the radiator and the stubby exhaust kills it for me. Nothing like the XS650.

Have to agree with you... had a XS250...

Perhaps some should learn what the word "retro" means... not much on the new, which is not bad looking in its own right, that is 'looking back' at the original XS series...

[pritch]

[QUOTE=awa355;1130885343]

Perhaps some should learn what the word "retro" means... not much on the new, which is not bad looking in its own right, that is 'looking back' at the original XS series...


It does say "retro inspired", and it is a variation on a current model. A proper retro bike would need an engine with fins etc etc and consequently cost a shed load more cash.

The only thing that worried me was that the first feature they felt they needed to mention is the "two-texture leather seat". If that's the most important feature that's a but underwhelming. That leather seat would be a lot more appropriate in California than it would here too.

Just a few years ago I wouldn't have wanted that for a wart on my arse, but I could probably live with it now; provided it wasn't bloody LAMS compliant.

[Voltaire]

Bro - thats as retro as man... NOT.....

I want one-not ever. ( the original one would be cool as I know how spanners work :lol:)

[sidecar bob]

That's a negative from me too.:yawn:

[Edbear]

Hard to spot the "homage"...

[Paul in NZ]

I think the MT-07 is nicer

[Paul in NZ]

Hard to spot the "homage"...

The headlights nearly identical.... cough.... sigh.....

[Moi]

[QUOTE=Moi;1130885400]


It does say "retro inspired", and it is a variation on a current model. A proper retro bike would need an engine with fins etc etc and consequently cost a shed load more cash.

The only thing that worried me was that the first feature they felt they needed to mention is the "two-texture leather seat". If that's the most important feature that's a but underwhelming. That leather seat would be a lot more appropriate in California than it would here too.

Just a few years ago I wouldn't have wanted that for a wart on my arse, but I could probably live with it now; provided it wasn't bloody LAMS compliant.

But wait... there's more...

* the old school headlight
* the aluminium tank

and if you want to be totally retrosexual - whatever that may mean...

you need to mention the aluminium fender and headlight bracket...

The Guzzi V7 is retro with Italian panache...

[Banditbandit]

[QUOTE=Moi;1130885400]


It does say "retro inspired", and it is a variation on a current model. A proper retro bike would need an engine with fins etc etc and consequently cost a shed load more cash.



With a dash of SR thrown in ...


No .. I would not have one .. as Moi says the Guzzi V7 series are real retro - I want the cafe racer one.

(And I hope that 'one for ye olde pharts doesn't mean it's SLOW !!!)

[george formby]

I'm retrosexual, was pretty hunky in the 80's.

Oh, the bike? Yeah, nah. It's brilliant in that all the design cues are off target, all of them. That's some achievement. Nearly as offensive as that BMW cruiser thing from a few years ago.
Just sayin, IMHO.

[Moi]

...the Guzzi V7 series are real retro - I want the cafe racer one.

They're sexy... but I lust after the Nevada...:drool:

[husaberg]

That's a negative from me too.:yawn:
..................tish tish why can't they do something like these


https://2strokebiker.files.wordpress.com/2010/12/rd400.jpghttp://blog-imgs-76.fc2.com/k/e/n/kenboo340/98eyd534.jpg

[george formby]

..................tish tish why can't they do something like these


Ahhhhhhhhhh, you had to do that, didn't you? I look at pictures of TDR's as part of foreplay. Want. Needs to sit between the DT and TDM. Full house.

[husaberg]

Ahhhhhhhhhh, you had to do that, didn't you? I look at pictures of TDR's as part of foreplay. Want. Needs to sit between the DT and TDM. Full house.

Nah a TRX850 in Over trim, with YZF750 suspension front and rear.
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-1P86qZBzFHk/UWhF3wYLPXI/AAAAAAAAGkw/4LWthPtPDE4/s400/TheTRXproject_Yamaha_TRX850_Taira_Racing_Taira_Sar ron.jpg
http://www.motorcycle.com/images/content/Review/ov16.jpg

[george formby]

Yes but... Nup. Not for the roads around here. TDR with decent suspension, pipe, brakes and tires. Ning ning for the win.
Having said that, I would love a good fang on a TRX. The 850 motor sounds grouse with, er, less restrictive pipes. And I'm sure they are more agile than the TDM.

With regard to the retro Yammie in question, how does it ride? By all accounts the motor is a peach. I think Yamaha are going down the Ducati/Triumph road and lining up a lot of variants around the triple and twin. The MT07 Tracer is tickling my fancy. Niche market retro exercises considerably less so.

[husaberg]

Yes but... Nup. Not for the roads around here. TDR with decent suspension, pipe, brakes and tires. Ning ning for the win.
Having said that, I would love a good fang on a TRX. The 850 motor sounds grouse with, er, less restrictive pipes. And I'm sure they are more agile than the TDM.

With regard to the retro Yammie in question, how does it ride? By all accounts the motor is a peach. I think Yamaha are going down the Ducati/Triumph road and lining up a lot of variants around the triple and twin. The MT07 Tracer is tickling my fancy. Niche market retro exercises considerably less so.

Yes but the retro ride is irrelevant its how it looks. LOL.
Someone on here had a tarted up TRX850 can't remember who it was.
Pretty sure the later TDM's also had the 270 motor?

found without tags 2 minutes tops :)

yes they do, infact the over racing 15 bikes where that setup, three came to NZ
I had one, the R6_KID has got one and the other ? who knows where that went.

I built up one for road use with the YZF750 setup and gearbox ( trx was 5 speed )
not a rocketship like a modern r1 but made a lot of people guess on the road.

Im currently in the throws ( either I sell all the last of the goodies ) or Im going to make
someone local to me with a 09 r1 cross plane chassis a offer and put 09R1 running
gear on a trxframe but do the early r6 tail setup as the bum on a trx is not
lady like at all...

[jim.cox]

With regard to the retro Yammie in question, how does it ride? .

A mate of mine has spent a shitload on suspension bits getting his MT09 to handle - apparently the motor is good once you get the right injection mapping (more $$$) but Yam have been shaving the money a bit close on the cycleparts.

[pritch]

as Moi says the Guzzi V7 series are real retro - I want the cafe racer one.

(And I hope that 'one for ye olde pharts doesn't mean it's SLOW !!!)

Well the Guzzi is "real retro" it's true, and that extends to the preformance figures.

The MT-07 engine makes fully 50% more ponies than the Guzzi. (I'm referring to the real thing, not the LAMS version of the Yamaha sold here.) So while it may not be the fastest thing around it should be in a different class to the Guzzi.

If it is imported here I suppose we could all go and test ride both bikes and reinforce our prejudices. :whistle:

[Voltaire]

Well the Guzzi is "real retro" it's true, and that extends to the preformance figures.

The MT-07 engine makes fully 50% more ponies than the Guzzi. (I'm referring to the real thing, not the LAMS version of the Yamaha sold here.) So while it may not be the fastest thing around it should be in a different class to the Guzzi.

If it is imported here I suppose we could all go and test ride both bikes and reinforce our prejudices. :whistle:

Prejudices....none of that round here ;), I know what the Guzzi retros look like but no idea what a MT-07 is, the Yamaha above made my eyes hurt.

Power.... I don't need it. The 72 BMW track bike puts out about 65 BHP and is good for over 200 kmph, for road use I have a 70 HP 900ss and all that V twin ( L twin) goodness.:woohoo:

[pritch]

Prejudices....none of that round here ;), I know what the Guzzi retros look like but no idea what a MT-07 is, the Yamaha above made my eyes hurt.

Power.... I don't need it. The 72 BMW track bike puts out about 65 BHP and is good for over 200 kmph, for road use I have a 70 HP 900ss and all that V twin ( L twin) goodness.:woohoo:

The Yamah MT-07 is the model from which that retro variant was sourced. BIKE magazine had the MT-07 as BOTY; it was fun, frugal, and was priced so keenly the competition had to lower their prices. We get a smaller engined LAMS version but the original makes 75bhp. The Guzzi makes 50.

I too might be able to live with 75 horses in a light enough package, but 50 seems just one stop short of an Indian Enfield and that's just too retro thanks.

[Voltaire]

Depends what you want really, I'm more into mid range stomp up to about 160 kmph.

My 750 Norton Commando has about 50 HP and only a 4 speed gearbox but the torque is impressive, especially in a bike that weighs in at

about 175 kgs and feels like a 250 to ride. :yes:

I haven't ridden a 750 Guzzi but I'd imagine with a V twin it would be very similar.

[Banditbandit]

Well the Guzzi is "real retro" it's true, and that extends to the preformance figures.


Yeah .. so what ??? As a salesman said when I was looking at a bike - "It's not a 250 k plus monster "

My response was "I've already got one of those .. that's not what I'm looking for ... "

[awa355]

Retro or brand new design. I just like top gear grunt from around 70-130kph. If I had a bike capable of over 200kph I would never get to those speeds and retro was never about top end speed.

[James Deuce]

God that looks horrible and I own a Versys.

[Brian d marge]

Nope, the tupperware under the tank, the radiator and the stubby exhaust kills it for me. Nothing like the XS650.

http://i1074.photobucket.com/albums/w420/awa355/XS2%20650%201972.jpg
I have one of those

Must put it on the road one day

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[Voltaire]

I have one of those

Must put it on the road one day

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you know the rules, pictures or it never happened ( $10 of cheap red later)

[Brian d marge]

you know the rules, pictures or it never happened ( $10 of cheap red later)
http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/24/17147564d8af7d1eb0868f917e2c4657.jpg

Done

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[george formby]

Retro or brand new design. I just like top gear grunt from around 70-130kph. If I had a bike capable of over 200kph I would never get to those speeds and retro was never about top end speed.

That sums up 3rd on my TDM. 200 will never happen. Admittedly I really need to be changing up at 110kph. Mechanical sympathy and old age. If the MT07 motor pulls the same way it must be hilarious on twisty roads, shedding maybe 40kg in comparison. The future looks bright if not the retrosexual yamaha.

[Big Dog]

Bike aesthetics are a lot like women's aesthetics.
If you wouldn't ride it because of the aesthetics... it obviously hasn't been long enough since your last ride... wait a while and consider again.

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[Fastmark]

..................tish tish why can't they do something like these


https://2strokebiker.files.wordpress.com/2010/12/rd400.jpghttp://blog-imgs-76.fc2.com/k/e/n/kenboo340/98eyd534.jpg

Oh I just let out a little bit of white wee for the RD......

[husaberg]

Oh I just let out a little bit of white wee for the RD......

Yeah its pretty bloody jizz worthy. lc motor and all.
Always liked the coffin tanked RDs