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Bennyblanko
29th July 2015, 13:03
Hey Guys,
A wee while back I acquired a cool old japanese motorcycle at a Local swap meet.
despite scouring the internet I have come up with no information on the bike apart from a few scraps of information regarding the manufacturer, but thats it!
No photos, not even a mention of the model name.
Things I do know about the bike:

Brand: Gasuden
Model: Super Collie
Japanese
50cc

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Gasuden made motorcycle engines in the 50's for Fuji, one of the better known old Japanese manufacturers. Later, Yamaguchi and Fuji teamed up and made motorcycles under the Gasuden banner.
Gasuden engines were used in the Fuji Cabin Microcar - the engines seem to have been used in motorcycles made by other japanese manufacturers, like Martin.

And that's all I know!
If anyone has ANY information, any photos, anything! it would be greatly appreciated, as I am working on getting the wee thing back on the road, and it is missing a few parts like the throttle and levers. I'm looking at having to use honda cub parts adapted to fit as this seems to be the only option.

98tls
29th July 2015, 14:23
Day off and its raining so off i went in search of info but:brick:not much to be found as you say,found this pic so went to the site translated but found little more...https://www.google.co.nz/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CAUQjhxqFQoTCP3fueOj_8YCFceylAodeYMD3Q&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.motor-forum.nl%2Fforum%2Flist_messages%2F366745%2F11%2FJ apanse-Klassiekers-van-voor-1970-12.html&ei=hTi4Vb2JDMfl0gT5ho7oDQ&bvm=bv.99028883,d.dGo&psig=AFQjCNG2I6e8zLMrE781RJhx72e2OgrlyQ&ust=1438222523688581

ellipsis
29th July 2015, 14:51
Day off and its raining so off i went in search of info but:brick:not much to be found as you say,found this pic so went to the site translated but found little more...https://www.google.co.nz/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CAUQjhxqFQoTCP3fueOj_8YCFceylAodeYMD3Q&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.motor-forum.nl%2Fforum%2Flist_messages%2F366745%2F11%2FJ apanse-Klassiekers-van-voor-1970-12.html&ei=hTi4Vb2JDMfl0gT5ho7oDQ&bvm=bv.99028883,d.dGo&psig=AFQjCNG2I6e8zLMrE781RJhx72e2OgrlyQ&ust=1438222523688581


...cool pics and the dudes in them...love the sports rider in the flat cap :niceone:...

ellipsis
29th July 2015, 14:59
...love the names of some of their 'main models'...

The following are the main model name and manufacturer of bike, more than 150 companies after the war.

Aioi Motors;
spark Aisan Industry;
Aisan Amano automotive industry;
RSYA;
Arai bike;
Terriers Angkor Arai Seisakusho;
Kitty Bantam Eagle Automobile Research Institute;
Eagle No. Ishizu Machinery Co.;
Prince mascot Iseki;
Isekitafu Itagaki million;
Sunlight Iwata industry;
BIM;
Ito agency industry;
falcon Abe motor;
Abe star ENSHU leather industry;
Young CB;
Osaka Georgette industry;
Georgette Otsuki industry;
Oh luck dandy auto bit automotive industry;
auto bit Otori Kiko;
DAIHACHI Feng Zhou Seiki Kogyo;
Oyashima Onoe industry;
Happy Okamoto car;
Noritz Oka firm;
pointer OK Sports Onishi Movers Works;
Nohatsu Obu industry ;
baby climber Kawasaki Gifu Plant;
Kawasaki bike scooter Kawasaki Aircraft Industries (Kawasaki)
Kawasaki Akira-hatsu industry;
Meihatsu Katayama industry;
Olympus
Three bright Komine Giant;
Katakura bicycle;
silk motor Kitagawa automotive industry;
Portree liner Kyoritsu automotive industry;
rush cooperative Maruuchi bicycle factory;
Planet Kume industry;
Kumesankei honor industry;
Light pony Kobayashi Motors;
(Komine) Abe Komine motorcycle industry industry;
Sunlight Machinery Co., Sankyo;
Sankyo Sankyo Denki (Sankyo);
My pet Sanko industry;
jet Sanno automotive industry;
lucky Shoji Kogyo;
Shoken-shin Mitsubishi Heavy Industries;
Silver Pigeon ShinMaywa (Shinmeiwa);
Pointer Jetstar;
jet Tel No. chorus Works;
Light cruiser chanting car;
chanting No. Suzuki industry;
Angel Sumita Movers;
Article Seiki star Sumita loom Suzuki (Suzuki)
Sengoku Works;
cyclone Pets Center Works;
center CFA
Zebra motor;
Zebra Tiger firm;
Moon Tiger Takagi firm;
Hayate Takanashisangyo;
Tsukuba Takehiro vehicle;
baby Arrow Tanaka industry;
task Taiyo Kogyo;
TMC master Taiyo internal combustion engine;
Nissan Petty M6
Derby automotive industry center;
Derby Deluxe Daito Seiki Co., Ltd.;
DSK
Dainippon machinery industry;
Kuraidora Central industrial;
Central Chuo;
Kitty Chiyoda Movers;
Chiyotsubasa industry;
Tsubasa Tenryu loom;
Tenryu,
Hope Star DSK automotive industry;
DSK
AzumaAkira automotive industry;
echo Sogawa industry;
Marushin Toa light departure from industry;
Torquay Tokyo Orion industry;
phosphorus net Tokyo Shinsei motor;
raster Tokyo Fuji bicycle; San rabbit Toho Machinery Co.;
Swallow ace Thomas out Union;
Thomas Toyo Motors;
Toyo motor Tokyo Movers;
Tohatsu Doi industry;
fly Bird Nakajima motor;
Nakajima Kid scooter length this Movers Institute;
life Nagoya Asahi motorcycle;
pet national auto;
Panther in Japan heavy industry;
Silver Pigeon internal combustion engine industry;
Green No. Nagoya motorcycle industry;
Abilene Eishon two Hikariseisakusho;
Nicot Nikken pet industry;
ruby Nisshin automotive industry;
Happy Seven Nitto motor bike;
Japan Nitto bike light car commercial association;
Nikkei scooter Japan high speed industrial institutions;
Hosuku Nippon internal combustion engine industry;
Panky Nichitei industry;
auto schedule Nishio Iron Works;
Nishiwo NM
Nissan Motor (Nissan);
Nissan electric three-wheeled scooter Nichibeifujijitensha;
Fuji More spit Japan nut;
Onoe scooter Nippon light car industry;
NKB Junior Hamajima Shop;
Tachibana Hayabusa firm;
hopper Pearl manufacture and sale;
Pearl BF motor company; BF
BM Motor Works;
BM No. Fuji motorcycle;
Fuji
Fuji Machinery;
Road King Fujita Iron Works;
auto bit Fuji Movers industry;
New Virgin Fuji Shokai;
OMC
Fuji Kogyo (Subaru);
Rabbit Brother Precision Industries;
My Darling Bridgestone Cycle Industry (Bridgestone);
champion health automobile industry;
Herusuemuro Toyokuni machinery industry;
Hokokuhitto Hodaka Industries;
Hodakahonda Institute of Technology (Honda)
Akebono Marusho automobile manufacturing;
lilac Marthe bicycle;
Marthe motorbike round diamond Kousakusho;
diamond scooter YorozuKuni car Chamber of Commerce and Industry;
Falcon Maruyama car;
Jimmy Mikasa Giken Kogyo Co., Ltd. (Health);
Martin Works;
Martin Mazda Manufacturing;
one wheel industry Nova round Emuro Mikuni automobile;
Mishima light load hero departure from industry;
Mishima S
Mizuho Automotive Manufacturing;
bis motor,
cabton Minato Works;
Herususeriusu Miyata Seisakusho;
Miyapetto Mizuho metal industry;
Petty M6
Murai firm;
black hose Meguro Works;
Meguro Monarch motor;
Monarch Morigin internal combustion engine industry;
San etch Yagi light vehicle Works;
Sanyo Yamaguchi bicycle industry;
Yamaguchi Yamazaki internal combustion engine Institute;
Blue Bird Yamato Shokai;
Yamato Lucky Yamaha Motor
Yamashita work center;
Pearl Z
Yamada WaSakari-kan;
Yamarin Yao deer Movers;
Rocky Jung Man industry;
Yunkuman issue line automotive industry;
Autoline Retweet phosphorus motorcycle Institute;
Ritsurin Lu Wang internal combustion engine;
Lu Wang Ren'yu bicycle;
Ren Yu rocket firm;
Quinn Wakabayashi rocket car industry;
Sylvania word Taki Chamber of Commerce and Industry;
New Dee Watanabe Iron Works;
New Ik

Bennyblanko
29th July 2015, 17:23
Day off and its raining so off i went in search of info but:brick:not much to be found as you say,found this pic so went to the site translated but found little more...https://www.google.co.nz/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CAUQjhxqFQoTCP3fueOj_8YCFceylAodeYMD3Q&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.motor-forum.nl%2Fforum%2Flist_messages%2F366745%2F11%2FJ apanse-Klassiekers-van-voor-1970-12.html&ei=hTi4Vb2JDMfl0gT5ho7oDQ&bvm=bv.99028883,d.dGo&psig=AFQjCNG2I6e8zLMrE781RJhx72e2OgrlyQ&ust=1438222523688581

Thanks man. I'm thinking I may need to enlist a japanese speaking person to do some searching for me. Hopefully there is more info online in japanese language.

FJRider
29th July 2015, 18:31
Yamaguchi Bicycles and Fuji Motors partnered to build Gasuden brand motorcycles.

Initially they used a Villiers engine copy (Fuji .. the motors .. with Yamaguchi building the chassis)) ... but after the Bankruptcy of Yamaguchi in 1963 ... Hodaka Industries supplied 50cc, 80cc, 90cc and 200cc engines.

husaberg
1st August 2015, 19:33
Hey Guys,
A wee while back I acquired a cool old japanese motorcycle at a Local swap meet.
despite scouring the internet I have come up with no information on the bike apart from a few scraps of information regarding the manufacturer, but thats it!
No photos, not even a mention of the model name.
Things I do know about the bike:

Brand: Gasuden
Model: Super Collie
Japanese
50cc


Gasuden made motorcycle engines in the 50's for Fuji, one of the better known old Japanese manufacturers. Later, Yamaguchi and Fuji teamed up and made motorcycles under the Gasuden banner.
Gasuden engines were used in the Fuji Cabin Microcar - the engines seem to have been used in motorcycles made by other japanese manufacturers, like Martin.

And that's all I know!
If anyone has ANY information, any photos, anything! it would be greatly appreciated, as I am working on getting the wee thing back on the road, and it is missing a few parts like the throttle and levers. I'm looking at having to use honda cub parts adapted to fit as this seems to be the only option.

I would say your best bet is to drop an email to say classic bike magazine with a pic.
http://www.classicbike.co.uk/

Stephen or Brian dmarge on KB both lives in Japan and speaks the lingo
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/member.php/2805-Brian-d-marge

I quoted him this post.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1961-Fuji-Gasuden-FMCKB-Motorcycle-Factory-Photo-J1996-/350907085908
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http://www.broughsuperior.com/newpage1_2jp.html
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http://club.wolf.vn/threads/huyen-thoai-xe-may-yamaguchi-va-hodaka-suu-tam.6751/

"At first, Yamaguchi used bikes styled motor Villiers clones Unload Fuji Motor supply to motorcycle manufacturers Gasuden but then they use the 50cc and 90cc machines with our actuators then Fuji Motor is also based on these models to parody Yamaguchi models
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