How much for a ZX10 track bike

[jafa21]

Hi guys. I was wondering if you can please tell how much i can get for my ZX10.
Reason for sale - bought a house
See details below. Feel free to ask questions.


Kawasaki ZX10R 2010
First registered/bought in Sep 2012.

Best track bike in NZ. Why because its been ridden like a road bike and turned into a track bike.
Deregistered/registration cancelled. Can be put back on road with a simple form. No need to get it inspected etc.
Can prove bike history/ownership. First bought from Honda Hamilton. I am the second owner. I have all the paperwork to prove. All service history.

Total KMs – 7,300
Turned into track bike 2 track days ago.
Total Track days – 10 (less than 2000KMs)
All track days at Hamptons.
My best time on track – 1.20
That means I am crap. That means the bike hasn’t been ridden hard AT ALL.
I have never ridden in 1st gear at hamptons. Never done any wheelie (intentionally or unintentionally)
Has road tyres (Q3), side stand and speedo
Always fully serviced. Oil changed 2 track days ago.

Mods. Get ready for the long list of mods.
Oh wait that’s not true. Everything standard except for the normal stuff. Nothing done to the engine or any other parts to enhance the speed of the bike.

Upgrades –
SBS brake pads $140, Braided lines $180 @5300Kms
-Scorpion exhaust slip on only
-Cat convertor removed (when turned into track bike)
-Fibre glass fairings custom made by Just Fairings right here in NZ. These are by far the best race fairings. Cost approx. $900 NZD. They bolt/unbolt in less than 5 mins. Really good fit.
-Painted black. You can see the metallic sparkle finish. Same as original colour. Cost approx. $1000
-RG tank slider - $150
-GB enginer covers – not yet installed - $500
-Q3 tyres. Plenty of tread. Approx. 2000km and 5 track days done.
-Front axle bobbins, back stand bobbins, frame sliders
-RG Radiator guard
-Stomp grip
-Stock suspension tuned by Robert Taylor for 80kg rider
-Steering damper revalved – at hardest setting handle bars are impossible to move when stationary. Means its been revalved properly

Spare parts
-Original back seat
-back seat cowel from Kawasaki (worth $250)
-Original front mud guard

[mossy1200]

What its worth and what you will get are 2 different things.

Around 9grand is quick sale and around 11grand is what you could get if the right buyer is there.
If I had 11 and wanted one I would pay it if it was dearer I would keep shopping around.

[jasonu]

What its worth and what you will get are 2 different things.


If I had 11 and wanted one I would pay it if it was dearer I would keep shopping around.

You what?????

[mossy1200]

You what?????

exactly:wacko:

[Asher]

I have been looking at buying a 08-10 ZX10R
If the bike was on the road you could probably get 11-12k for it.
But lots of people dont like buying a bike thats seen the track so i would have a guess that you could get 9-10k for it.

[nzspokes]

Is it the same bike as this one?

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/173114-ZX10-front-end-shake-trackday-why

[Banditbandit]

Yeah .. it's a track bike ...

$5 and a bag of chips ?

[Danger Dave]

I sold my 08 ZX10 race bike last year, It had just over 7000kms with similar mods as yours plus ohlins internals in the forks and a penske rear shock, bazazz quickshifter & traction control, also sold with spare wheels, spare set of bodywork, extra tyres and lots of other good spares and it sold for $7500.

Unfortunately as much as it costs to build a track bike there is just no value in a non road legal bike, i see an 06 ZX10 just sold for $6500 and even that was to much for what it was.

[jafa21]

I sold my 08 ZX10 race bike last year, It had just over 7000kms with similar mods as yours plus ohlins internals in the forks and a penske rear shock, bazazz quickshifter & traction control, also sold with spare wheels, spare set of bodywork, extra tyres and lots of other good spares and it sold for $7500.

Unfortunately as much as it costs to build a track bike there is just no value in a non road legal bike, i see an 06 ZX10 just sold for $6500 and even that was to much for what it was.

Please compare apples with apples. A race bike and my bike are miles apart. As i explained in my post my bike hasnt been ridden hard.
Race bikes dont have value as their engine is raped to bits. NOT MINE

[sil3nt]

Please compare apples with apples. A race bike and my bike are miles apart. As i explained in my post my bike hasnt been ridden hard.
Race bikes dont have value as their engine is raped to bits. NOT MINE:lol::lol::lol:

[nzspokes]

Please compare apples with apples. A race bike and my bike are miles apart. As i explained in my post my bike hasnt been ridden hard.
Race bikes dont have value as their engine is raped to bits. NOT MINE

But it has been crashed. Did you get it fixed properly?

[nodrog]

Please compare apples with apples. A race bike and my bike are miles apart. As i explained in my post my bike hasnt been ridden hard.
Race bikes dont have value as their engine is raped to bits. NOT MINE

Yeah what he said.

I've never thrashed any of my road bikes, even when I took them to the track.

[jafa21]

But it has been crashed. Did you get it fixed properly?

It was minor low side crash. only cosmetic damage. Has been through a workshop to certify no damage other than cosmetic.
Due to that crash and insurance i decided to convert into a track bike. Still structurally sound and has not been derigistered (or whatever the term is) by insurance.
At the time of crash i had the option of spending few hundred bux on footpegs and broken mirror to put it back on road. But i decided to spend the same money and convert into a track bike.

[Danger Dave]

The only difference between a race bike and a track bike is one has numbers on it, I know a lot of guys who only do track days and ride there bikes a lot faster a more often than guys who race plus you will also find most "race" bikes are maintained a lot of better then a track day bike.

but this is just my opinion so you could try and sell it for $9000 and after 12 months when it hasn't sold and you decide to drop down to a more realistic price around the $5500-$6500 mark let me know as i may be keen to buy it then.

[nodrog]

..... around the $5500-$6500 mark let me know as i may be keen to buy it then.

I love you Dave -

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/175438-Can-I-try-superbike-racing-without-buying-a-bike

[Danger Dave]

Sorry Gordie, i would love to give this to you but it is just a trackday bike not a superbike :msn-wink:

[jafa21]

The only difference between a race bike and a track bike is one has numbers on it, I know a lot of guys who only do track days and ride there bikes a lot faster a more often than guys who race plus you will also find most "race" bikes are maintained a lot of better then a track day bike.

but this is just my opinion so you could try and sell it for $9000 and after 12 months when it hasn't sold and you decide to drop down to a more realistic price around the $5500-$6500 mark let me know as i may be keen to buy it then.

I agree. Every bike is different. As you said there must be bikes that have been ridden harder and maintained less even if they are not race bikes. There is nothing i can do to prove that my bike hasnt been ridden hard and has been maintained correctly.
I can however show dash videos of the track days (showing rev ranges and my times) an maintenance history. This will give some confidence to the interested buyer that my bike would be one of the best track bike (for the class) to buy. As i have mentioned before, it hasnt been ridden hard. I am no good on the track. I go for bit of fun and have only been on the track 10 times all up. All these things point out that bike is in mint condition.

We will leave it at that. No point in arguing. You are interested in the bike in $5500-$6500 and i am not selling at that price. End of conversation. Move on.

[Danger Dave]

Just for your reference, here is a road legal 08 ZX10r looks very tdiy for $8900

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-929166122.htm

But there is also other road legal ones for around $12000 so it will give you an idea of pricing.

[nzspokes]

I agree. Every bike is different. As you said there must be bikes that have been ridden harder and maintained less even if they are not race bikes. There is nothing i can do to prove that my bike hasnt been ridden hard and has been maintained correctly.
I can however show dash videos of the track days (showing rev ranges and my times) an maintenance history. This will give some confidence to the interested buyer that my bike would be one of the best track bike (for the class) to buy. As i have mentioned before, it hasnt been ridden hard. I am no good on the track. I go for bit of fun and have only been on the track 10 times all up. All these things point out that bike is in mint condition.

We will leave it at that. No point in arguing. You are interested in the bike in $5500-$6500 and i am not selling at that price. End of conversation. Move on.

Dash cam vids

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RiWRuadMM2g

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xmb7NO_dTM0&feature=youtu.be

[nodrog]

Sorry Gordie, i would love to give this to you but it is just a trackday bike not a superbike :msn-wink:

plus it looks broken.

[Bassmatt]

$20000
Happy now?

[jafa21]

Dash cam vids

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RiWRuadMM2g

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xmb7NO_dTM0&feature=youtu.be

Thanks STALKER

[5150]

We will leave it at that. No point in arguing. You are interested in the bike in $5500-$6500 and i am not selling at that price. End of conversation. Move on.

What did you expect from an online KB community? :facepalm:

[Mike.Gayner]

It's amusing to me when someone comes to a community asking for a value on something, then gets all pissy with the value given.

[jafa21]

It's amusing to me when someone comes to a community asking for a value on something, then gets all pissy with the value given.

I am not pissed at your opinions at all. May be you misunderstood. I am just trying to show/prove that my bike is not a typical track bike. Its more of a road bike being under used of its capabilities. I know track bikes have a negative value/perception.

[nodrog]

I am not pissed at your opinions at all. May be you misunderstood. I am just trying to show/prove that my bike is not a typical track bike. Its more of a road bike being under used of its capabilities. I know track bikes have a negative value/perception.

Its pretty simple really.

It doesn't go on the road, its a track bike.

Its like saying your misses was a prostitute, but its ok because she was only fucked by Asian men so her vagina isn't that thrashed.

[TheDemonLord]

I am not pissed at your opinions at all. May be you misunderstood. I am just trying to show/prove that my bike is not a typical track bike. Its more of a road bike being under used of its capabilities. I know track bikes have a negative value/perception.

Its a track bike, ergo it gets lumped with the prejudices (in regards to value) of all the other Track Day bikes.


The cynical person may also feel that all the attempts to justify the increased price is something along the lines of "The lady doth protest too much, methinks"

[Mike.Gayner]

If you want it valued as a road bike, spend the money and register it. Otherwise it's a track bike, by definition.

[jafa21]

If you want it valued as a road bike, spend the money and register it. Otherwise it's a track bike, by definition.

I never said it wasnt. Some people cant read. Clearly says "best TRACK BIKE"

[TheDemonLord]

Clearly says "best TRACK BIKE"

Yep.


Still a Track Bike.

[Brett]

It was minor low side crash. only cosmetic damage. Has been through a workshop to certify no damage other than cosmetic.
Due to that crash and insurance i decided to convert into a track bike. Still structurally sound and has not been derigistered (or whatever the term is) by insurance.
At the time of crash i had the option of spending few hundred bux on footpegs and broken mirror to put it back on road. But i decided to spend the same money and convert into a track bike.

Regardless of how you feel mate, the market will see it as a track bike. Your bike as a road legal, tidy 08 ZX10 would probably sell for around $10k in the current market. As a track bike, even a non-stressed one, would be lucky to see around $7-8k.

Realise that it might hold more value to you than this, but - as someone currently looking for a track bike, that is what the level of value that I am seeing is. Just my 2c.

[Tazz]

Regardless of how you feel mate, the market will see it as a track bike. Your bike as a road legal, tidy 08 ZX10 would probably sell for around $10k in the current market. As a track bike, even a non-stressed one, would be lucky to see around $7-8k.

Realise that it might hold more value to you than this, but - as someone currently looking for a track bike, that is what the level of value that I am seeing is. Just my 2c.

Not a huge difference, but, it is a 2010 if my glasses are focusing correctly ;)

[Brett]

Not a huge difference, but, it is a 2010 if my glasses are focusing correctly ;)

My bad. Wrote that on the fly in between meetings at the office today. My comment still stands for my opinion!

[Autech]

Yeah what he said.

I've never thrashed any of my road bikes, even when I took them to the track.
:killingme :lol: :killingme:killingme:killingme :2thumbsup

My advice to you is to register it (sounds like it is on hold to me not dereg'd) and sell it as a road bike if you still have all the bits.
Gives people the options and should net you another 1-2k in resale value. Wait another month or two for the weather to pick up and you should have no trouble selling it.

Best of luck in the sale.

[nodrog]

:killingme :lol: :killingme:killingme:killingme :2thumbsup

My advice to you is to register it (sounds like it is on hold to me not dereg'd) and sell it as a road bike if you still have all the bits.
Gives people the options and should net you another 1-2k in resale value. Wait another month or two for the weather to pick up and you should have no trouble selling it.

Best of luck in the sale.

according to first post its deregistered.

[Autech]

according to first post its deregistered.

You are quite right, but then the OP goes on to say "Still structurally sound and has not been derigistered (or whatever the term is) by insurance.
At the time of crash i had the option of spending few hundred bux on footpegs and broken mirror to put it back on road. But i decided to spend the same money and convert into a track bike."

And somewhere else he mentioned not needing to be recerted I think. Meh.

[jafa21]

Yes correct. Not derigistered. It has been put on hold.

[Autech]

Yes correct. Not derigistered. It has been put on hold.

So chuck the lights and number plate back on it and suddenly it is a road bike!


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[400sm]

Yes correct. Not derigistered. It has been put on hold.

Bro.

Most used-bike buyers want the factory standard, unmodified bike. (a pack-rack being the exception)
These bikes seem to sell for the most money.

If a potential buyer perceives that the bike has been thrashed, he won't pay as much.

Too many mods, no matter how good and how expensive they are, will put off most people,.... EXCEPT for someone who actually wants a modified 'race-bike' and wants to save $thousands, because the mods have already been done.
In this case your bike is GOLD.

The reality is, only a small percentage of your prospective clientele will be racy.

A $1 auction on Trade me, will determine its value.;)

[AllanB]

BEST TRACK BIKE. To determine this surely one should have given it a good thrashing?

What's the point of taking a powerful bike to the track and not giving it some stick?

[Autech]

BEST TRACK BIKE. To determine this surely one should have given it a good thrashing?

What's the point of taking a powerful bike to the track and not giving it some stick?

Depends on how terrified of it your are lol. I probably would be!


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[DamianW]

Per previous posts - put the road kit back on, rego it as part of the sale and bobs your uncle.

At least your bike got used on the track. Pity that so many track orientated bikes never do.

GWS