FS. 2009 Honda CB400SF REVO LAMS EFI VTEC

[mathornet]

Hey guys
Selling the one and only version of the cb400 in NZ. australian import
Description in tm listing.
http://www.trademe.co.nz/929866919
People who has seen this bike and know me can vouch that I keep the bike in tip top condition.
Washed and polished every week and give good warm ups each cold start!
PM if interested.

[mathornet]

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a pic of the bike :)

[ducatilover]

The modern CB400 is not LAMS legal, only the CB400F of the (408cc) late 70s and the CB400N are LAMS legal (395cc)
Grouse bike however and no doubt you'd never get caught, but it could be an issue with insurance

[biketimus_prime]

The modern CB400 is not LAMS legal, only the CB400F of the (408cc) late 70s and the CB400N are LAMS legal (395cc)
Grouse bike however and no doubt you'd never get caught, but it could be an issue with insurance

Says CB400SF is legal on the LAMS list

[mathornet]

I took this bike for my restricted test and no disapprovals at all from the assessors. It is listed in the LAMS list.
And as stated in the listing I had an insurance repair no problems and was on my restricted licence.

[mathornet]

The modern CB400 is not LAMS legal, only the CB400F of the (408cc) late 70s and the CB400N are LAMS legal (395cc)
Grouse bike however and no doubt you'd never get caught, but it could be an issue with insurance
In australia these bikes are LAMS approved and this is an Australian import. Plus its in the LAMS list as well. If people are in doubt from the aftermarket exhaust I have the original as well but it has scratches on it.

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[mossy1200]

Personally I think the 6.5 that someone has bided is a great bid and you should be offering that person the bike if its the only bid you get. You should reset you reserve to 6501 for the next bidder to hit the spot and hopefully a bit of competitiveness will happen.

[mathornet]

Personally I think the 6.5 that someone has bided is a great bid and you should be offering that person the bike if its the only bid you get. You should reset you reserve to 6501 for the next bidder to hit the spot and hopefully a bit of competitiveness will happen.
Im not in a rush to sell the bike tbh. If reserve price hasnt been met then it will just relist. Ive reasoned my price due to a friend that sold an older not really immaculate cb400sf spec3 (2006) for 6500 in march.

[mossy1200]

Im not in a rush to sell the bike tbh. If reserve price hasnt been met then it will just relist. Ive reasoned my price due to a friend that sold an older not really immaculate cb400sf spec3 (2006) for 6500 in march.

Your call but a new z300 is cheaper than your 6 year old bike.

[mathornet]

Your call but a new z300 is cheaper than your 6 year old bike.
The thing is it isnt about the age that people like me see. I look at the quality of the bike( components and parts) it has adjustable suspensions. Good brakes. Vtec. 4 cylinder. And plus its the only one in nz in this variation (efi model) So rarity counts as well.
I was planning to keep the bike for many years until i got offered another bike for a price i couldnt refuse.

[Mike.Gayner]

And plus its the only one in nz in this variation (efi model) So rarity counts as well.

It really doesn't.

[mathornet]

It really doesn't.
Then how can u explain the vfr400 or other bikes like those to be overpriced and people still buy them like crazy

[husaberg]

Then how can u explain the vfr400 or other bikes like those to be overpriced and people still buy them like crazy

NC30 and NC35 are cult bikes, always have been.

[mathornet]

NC30 and NC35 are cult bikes, always have been.
Then the cb400 have also been cult bikes because of their vtec. Just not as popular as those v4 bikes. Lol

[mossy1200]

The thing is it isnt about the age that people like me see. I look at the quality of the bike( components and parts) it has adjustable suspensions. Good brakes. Vtec. 4 cylinder. And plus its the only one in nz in this variation (efi model) So rarity counts as well.
I was planning to keep the bike for many years until i got offered another bike for a price i couldnt refuse.

All you need do now is educate the learners that that a new bike with 2 year warranty is worth less than a 6 year old bike as your all good then.

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-923845422.htm
If you are a learner which bike represents better value. Yours or the one above.

New r3, new cbr300, new z300 or a long list of sub 2 year old bikes are your competition. Going to be difficult.

I have a rare trailer for sale. Struggling to get a dollar bid on it though.

[mathornet]

All you need do now is educate the learners that that a new bike with 2 year warranty is worth less than a 6 year old bike as your all good then.

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-923845422.htm
If you are a learner which bike represents better value. Yours or the one above.

New r3, new cbr300, new z300 or a long list of sub 2 year old bikes are your competition. Going to be difficult.

I have a rare trailer for sale. Struggling to get a dollar bid on it though.
I'd say for people with a budget yeah sure go for those bikes. For people looking for quality parts on a bike which is sufficient for nz riding even on a full licence for many many years go for this cause that was the case for me.

[mossy1200]

I'd say for people with a budget yeah sure go for those bikes. For people looking for quality parts on a bike which is sufficient for nz riding even on a full licence for many many years go for this cause that was the case for me.

Refer line one of my previous post. Your market don't know much. Why is a newer cb500f worth less to them than your bike.

[mathornet]

Refer line one of my previous post. Your market don't know much. Why is a newer cb500f worth less to them than your bike.
Which is why im waiting for the right buyer who knows his stuff as i was back then.

[mossy1200]

Which is why im waiting for the right buyer who knows his stuff as i was back then.

I stand corrected. Good luck.

[husaberg]

Then the cb400 have also been cult bikes because of their vtec. Just not as popular as those v4 bikes. Lol

Different story all together. you said so yourself not as popular
One bike was a IOM race winner over and over again right up until it was 10-15 years old.
One was based on a factory superbike racer and styled directly after it.
Look at the number imported as grey bikes into the UK and NZ and Aussie.
Best of luck the CB's are not bad bikes at all, but they are not NC30's.

Note the VFR400 actually cost more when it was released than a new VFR750 did.

[Mike.Gayner]

Then how can u explain the vfr400 or other bikes like those to be overpriced and people still buy them like crazy

Just being uncommon doesn’t contribute to value. I could build you a one-off, one-of-a-kind bike in my garage this weekend, but I guarantee you wouldn’t want to ride it, let alone pay good money for it.

Your bike is a minor variation of a common bike.

[mathornet]

Just being uncommon doesn’t contribute to value. I could build you a one-off, one-of-a-kind bike in my garage this weekend, but I guarantee you wouldn’t want to ride it, let alone pay good money for it.

Your bike is a minor variation of a common bike.
Well thanks for putting it that way. I'd say its just a rare opportunity for learners to find this bike in nz thats what i meant about 'rarity' or uncommon. Thats all.

[mossy1200]

You should have snapped that $6500 up. That money is likely going onto a different bike now. I notice it hadn't even got it within 15% of reserve.

[nzspokes]

Thats a lot of money for a little 400.

[Gremlin]

Only worth what someone is prepared to pay for it...

[The End]

Thats a lot of money for a little 400.

Makes me feel like I got a bargain on my 900!

OP, what'd you do to get the engine & frame so clean and shiny?

[mathornet]

Makes me feel like I got a bargain on my 900!

OP, what'd you do to get the engine & frame so clean and shiny?

Well first I religiously wash the bike every week on a nice day (takes around 1-2 hours detail cleaning including a polish after)
Secondly I never let any gunk build up have its chance. Degreaser it up then polish! Only wash it when the bike is cold of course.
WD-40 all the moving compartments ( Chain is cleaned with kerosene (no harm on the x,o-rings)
Hot engines sure won't like chemicals like em.
Chain clean is a must and lubed after and left to seat overnight.

[The End]

Well first I religiously wash the bike every week on a nice day (takes around 1-2 hours detail cleaning including a polish after)
Secondly I never let any gunk build up have its chance. Degreaser it up then polish! Only wash it when the bike is cold of course.
WD-40 all the moving compartments ( Chain is cleaned with kerosene (no harm on the x,o-rings)
Hot engines sure won't like chemicals like em.
Chain clean is a must and lubed after and left to seat overnight.

What products do you use for wash/polish/on the engine?

[Maha]

What products do you use for wash/polish/on the engine?

You've probably heard of Motomuck? buy some/use it. I didn't know about it when I had the CB.
For header pipes, Braso/Steel Wool/Rags and warm water...(in that order) From Kendog who had the sexiest headers ever.

[ducatilover]

In australia these bikes are LAMS approved and this is an Australian import. Plus its in the LAMS list as well. If people are in doubt from the aftermarket exhaust I have the original as well but it has scratches on it.

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Says CB400SF is legal on the LAMS list

The older SF is, the air cooled ones. Not the 399cc modern ones from 89 on (CB-1) it sayd 395cc and 408cc on the LAMS list.

[awa355]

Who the f,,k polishes their bike EVERY WEEK????. :brick::brick:

[Ender EnZed]

The older SF is, the air cooled ones. Not the 399cc modern ones from 89 on (CB-1) it sayd 395cc and 408cc on the LAMS list.

I'm sure I've seen a new one in an Aussie bike mag LAMS comparo a couple of years ago.

[ducatilover]

I'm sure I've seen a new one in an Aussie bike mag LAMS comparo a couple of years ago.

May be legal in Aus, but we have no 399cc one listed on our LAMS list. Ergo, tis illegal and insurance plonkers may not care so much for it when it get stacked

[mathornet]

May be legal in Aus, but we have no 399cc one listed on our LAMS list. Ergo, tis illegal and insurance plonkers may not care so much for it when it get stacked

Weird how my insurance repaired it fully when I did a claim during my learner licence.

[Mike.Gayner]

People aren't saying you'll always have trouble. They're saying you might run into trouble, and that's a risk buyers should know about, particularly LAMS buyers who tend to be less experienced and more easily taken advantage of.

And despite all that your bike is still at least $2k overpriced.

[mossy1200]

People aren't saying you'll always have trouble. They're saying you might run into trouble, and that's a risk buyers should know about, particularly LAMS buyers who tend to be less experienced and more easily taken advantage of.

And despite all that your bike is still at least $2k overpriced.


Can I view the bike plz? WIll you take 6.8K? valkeminator (45 45 positive feedback) 1:25 am, Thu 27 Aug

Answer: Nah 8.5k mate get on my level lol 9:45 am, Thu 27 Aug


Question: Hey mate but now $8,500?? I need a bike urgently this weekend. Auckland only thanks steph_5 (48 48 positive feedback) 8:03 am, Thu 27 Aug

Answer: Ok! 9:45 am, Thu 27 Aug


Question: 9k. Cash. I need this bike inside me tonight valkeminator (45 45 positive feedback) 9:47 am, Thu 27 Aug

Answer: LOL SOLD. SORRY STEPH THIS GUY DID GET ON MY LEVEL. 9:55 am, Thu 27 Aug


;)

[Mike.Gayner]

You know what they say, sucker born every minute.

[ducatilover]

Weird how my insurance repaired it fully when I did a claim during my learner licence.

Doesn't make it legal, and doesn't make it LAMS legal. How many fucking times must it be said, and shown that it is not a LAMS legal bike.
Apply to have the thing put on the list and stop being a cunt selling something falsely advertised.

It is, however, a nice machine.

[mathornet]

Doesn't make it legal, and doesn't make it LAMS legal. How many fucking times must it be said, and shown that it is not a LAMS legal bike.
Apply to have the thing put on the list and stop being a cunt selling something falsely advertised.

It is, however, a nice machine.
Well i am pleased to tell u that it is sold to a person that is holding a full licence. So there. No more hassle for you guys.

[ducatilover]

Well done, no more dishonest sale

[husaberg]

Well done, no more dishonest sale

I had a look on the Lams list it has the 400 twin, the old 400/4 and another listed as the CB400r when you google the cb400r 400sf come up.
Still can't figure out how a lot of the more heavy powerful bikes make it on the list and all the 2 strokes 250 are to much. FFS thats why the 250 were made for learners in the first place.

The police would never know they would just see CB400.

[mossy1200]

Well i am pleased to tell u that it is sold to a person that is holding a full licence. So there. No more hassle for you guys.

Great its sold. One assumes you have been paid and the bike collected.

[ducatilover]

I had a look on the Lams list it has the 400 twin, the old 400/4 and another listed as the CB400r when you google the cb400r 400sf come up.
Still can't figure out how a lot of the more heavy powerful bikes make it on the list and all the 2 strokes 250 are to much. FFS thats why the 250 were made for learners in the first place.

The police would never know they would just see CB400.

The 400R was rare as hell 315186 basically non-existant.
Some of those older 2Ts aren't even that blimmin fast lol
The Fizzer400 is LAMS, and a good 3TJ3 onwards would be more than enough to go splat on

some cops would only see GN on my shitheaps rego tag :innocent:

[mathornet]

Great its sold. One assumes you have been paid and the bike collected.
Sure did so ya'll dont have to worry bout it ever again :)

[mossy1200]

The 400R was rare as hell 315186 basically non-existant.
Some of those older 2Ts aren't even that blimmin fast lol
The Fizzer400 is LAMS, and a good 3TJ3 onwards would be more than enough to go splat on

some cops would only see GN on my shitheaps rego tag :innocent:

Wow.
No wonder it was rare. If you got off that at park you would be chaps gap up within minutes.

[mathornet]

BTW guys if you guys are really concerned about the new CB400SF being LAMS then can you please tell this Honda dealer that the CB400SF that they are bringing in isn't LAMS? They seem to be misleading too like me? But most of the people think they are LAMS because they are LAMS in Australia and NZ was the one that embraced Aussie LAMS rules in the first place. I'm sure they must be the same?
But if you dont think so please dispute against this dealer then?
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/cruiser/auction-928670732.htm

[NightRaven]

http://imgur.com/pHw31w2
Source:

https://www.nzta.govt.nz/driver-licences/getting-a-licence/licences-by-vehicle-type/motorcycles/lams/lams-approved-and-prohibited-motorcycles/?make=honda#approved-motorcycles


and I thought they're LAMS by the dealers too

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/cruiser/auction-928670732.htm

Also,

http://motorcycles.honda.com.au/Naked/CB400A#

[ducatilover]

Are you serious? Why must I keep explaining this?
I have shown what the 400R is, yours is not that.
Yours is not the 395cc model, which is a completely different bike.
It is also not a 408cc model.

This is not an argument at all, the bike is not on the list.

It is not on the LAMS list. I applied to have it on the list over a year ago and nothing has since been done by NZTA. Once added to the list, I will happily say it is on the list.

Edit: the outlined CB400SF is the old as fuck 408cc model, the modern watercooled engines are all 399cc.
Fuck me dead, read it.

[mathornet]

Are you serious? Why must I keep explaining this?
I have shown what the 400R is, yours is not that.
Yours is not the 395cc model, which is a completely different bike.
It is also not a 408cc model.

This is not an argument at all, the bike is not on the list.

It is not on the LAMS list. I applied to have it on the list over a year ago and nothing has since been done by NZTA. Once added to the list, I will happily say it is on the list.

Edit: the outlined CB400SF is the old as fuck 408cc model, the modern watercooled engines are all 399cc.
Fuck me dead, read it.

Understandable.
So can you please dispute against these dealers that are also false advertising then!?!?
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/cruiser/auction-928670732.htm

I took a look at honda jpan with their cb400
http://www.honda.co.jp/CB400SF/spec/
399cc as well. So its not in our LAMS list. but these dealers are bringing em in and saying theyre LAMS.

[Ender EnZed]

Technically it's not on the list but it's obviously meant to be. I just checked the Australian lams list and the only 399 cc one on there is the "CB400 ABS". A quick google shows that there are still 1001 non-ABS models for sale and reviewed over there that are stated to be learner approved, even though they're technically not. There must've been plenty of insurance claims for them by now. I guess no one handling them has been simultaneously evil and observant enough to refuse to pay out.

One day some pedantic cunt will send an email and the list will get updated.

[mathornet]

Technically it's not on the list but it's obviously meant to be. I just checked the Australian lams list and the only 399 cc one on there is the "CB400 ABS". A quick google shows that there are still 1001 non-ABS models for sale and reviewed over there that are stated to be learner approved, even though they're technically not. There must've been plenty of insurance claims for them by now. I guess no one handling them has been simultaneously evil and observant enough to refuse to pay out.

One day some pedantic cunt will send an email and the list will get updated.

:niceone:
But i'm just saying since the KB members are really concerned about this issue in NZ and disregard Aussie's situation then can they start doing something about this Honda dealer (counties Honda) trying to bring these bikes in and claiming them to be LAMS??
If i'm getting a lot of :bs: for this then a dealer should be getting more.
Heres the link again: http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/cruiser/auction-928670732.htm
Do note in Aussie CB400 ABS is LAMS.
But the guys here says NZ LAMS list doesnt have CB400 which is 399cc SO ITS NOT LAMS IN NZ! :woohoo:

It just seems like no one would agree with me to dispute with the dealers about it.
But with my listing everyone became keyboard warriors.

[mossy1200]

But i'm just saying since the KB members are really keyboard warriors.

Not sure what you are implying.

You have the money?
Ill sell you a bandit with touring gear. Its LAMS approved with a coil removed and is easily powered up when you have a fool licence. Comes with luggage for an extra $500.00

Pm me only 8k.

[FJRider]

Are you serious? Why must I keep explaining this?
I have shown what the 400R is, yours is not that.
Yours is not the 395cc model, which is a completely different bike.
It is also not a 408cc model.

This is not an argument at all, the bike is not on the list.

It is not on the LAMS list. I applied to have it on the list over a year ago and nothing has since been done by NZTA. Once added to the list, I will happily say it is on the list.

Edit: the outlined CB400SF is the old as fuck 408cc model, the modern watercooled engines are all 399cc.
Fuck me dead, read it.

There is a Honda CB400R ... (399cc) on the list.

[ducatilover]

There is a Honda CB400R ... (399cc) on the list.

Did you not see my post on the 400R? This is not a 400R :facepalm:

[FJRider]

Did you not see my post on the 400R? This is not a 400R :facepalm:

Evidently ... I did not.

However ... A CB400R IS on the list.




CB400R owners will be delighted ... ;)

[ducatilover]

Evidently ... I did not.

However ... A CB400R IS on the list.




CB400R owners will be delighted ... ;)

Lucky bastards :innocent:

[Tazz]

But with my listing everyone became keyboard warriors.

The KB inquisition struck again! :laugh:

Should setup a KB shop selling humble pie.

[mossy1200]

The KB inquisition struck again! :laugh:

Should setup a KB shop selling humble pie.

Yum. What flavours do they come in.
I still cant believe someone paid big monies for the bike but ill eat some free pie.

[mathornet]

Yum. What flavours do they come in.
I still cant believe someone paid big monies for the bike but ill eat some free pie.

Because its the only one of its kind in NZ. to bring it over would cost around 12k for a new one

[mossy1200]

Because its the only one of its kind in NZ. to bring it over would cost around 12k for a new one

Rather own a lams street triple.

[husaberg]

The KB inquisition struck again! :laugh:

Should setup a KB shop selling humble pie.

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it would end more like this
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With a lil bit of this
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[mathornet]

Rather own a lams speed triple.

Each to their own. Its LAMS street triple -.- but 14k for that..
I even wont buy my bike new for 12k
i'd rather get a 7k worth bike on my learners :yes:

[nzspokes]

Rather own a lams streat triple.

Agreed. They at least got the triple right.

[mossy1200]

Each to their own. Its LAMS street triple -.- but 14k for that..
I even wont buy my bike new for 12k
i'd rather get a 7k worth bike on my learners :yes:

You had a 7k worth learners bike already.

[mathornet]

You had a 7k worth learners bike already.
Thats why i got it!

[mossy1200]

Thats why i got it!

Hey mate but now $8,500?? I need a bike urgently this weekend. Auckland only thanks steph_5 (48 48 positive feedback) 8:03 am, Thu 27 Aug

Answer: Ok! 9:45 am, Thu 27 Aug

So you ripped the guy off.

[mathornet]

Hey mate but now $8,500?? I need a bike urgently this weekend. Auckland only thanks steph_5 (48 48 positive feedback) 8:03 am, Thu 27 Aug

Answer: Ok! 9:45 am, Thu 27 Aug

So you ripped the guy off.
He insisted. Haha but nah it was a friend trolling

[mossy1200]

He insisted. Haha but nah it was a friend trolling

So that's what you meant by your level?

[ducatilover]

Because its the only one of its kind in NZ. to bring it over would cost around 12k for a new one

There's a few here, but it's pretty bloody rare either way

[mathornet]

There's a few here, but it's pretty bloody rare either way
I've seen spec 2, and spec 3.. but not a single Revo. only way you can tell the difference is by looking at the engine. If you didnt notice the engine, they all look the same.
Revo was the only EFI model.
The photo was my revo and a spec 3 side by side.
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[NightRaven]

Turned out the CB400SF *is* indeed in the lams list
https://www.nzta.govt.nz/driver-licences/getting-a-licence/licences-by-vehicle-type/motorcycles/lams/lams-approved-and-prohibited-motorcycles/

http://i.imgur.com/YYNDVlE.png

[Mike.Gayner]

Turned out the CB400SF *is* indeed in the lams list
https://www.nzta.govt.nz/driver-licences/getting-a-licence/licences-by-vehicle-type/motorcycles/lams/lams-approved-and-prohibited-motorcycles/

http://i.imgur.com/YYNDVlE.png

If you bothered to read the thread, you'd know the 408cc is a different bike to the one being discussed.