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Scuba_Steve
5th September 2015, 09:46
Looking at new DIY jigsaw & wanting to know if 2400 SPM is gonna be enough or if I'll need the 3000 SPM?
Is the 600 SPM difference going to matter? I don't expect to be doing a huge amount if much at all of hardwoods most the work will be pine & metals I would expect so would I need the 3000 SPM or would the 2400 SPM suffice
Reason I ask as this is pretty much the only difference between going the convenience of cordless vs the power of corded... Powertools are just one of these rare things that teh interwebs isn't very good at explaining
bogan
5th September 2015, 09:49
Well the scientific approach would be...
Look at the power figures. Those will be max speed, start cutting and it can drop off heaps if you don't have enough power.
Also look at build quality, often far more important than the spec'd values.
FJRider
5th September 2015, 09:51
A bit like not getting a 140 HP motorcycle ... 110 HP is sufficient if you just normally travel at the posted speed limits ... :msn-wink:
Madness
5th September 2015, 10:01
Never mind high SPM, waste of time even thinking about it. Wattage, length of stroke, variable speed and pendulum action are more important. As is base design and if it ain't a Bosch or Makita, you're looking at the wrong one. As for cordless, we got along without them for decades quite nicely, thank you.
unstuck
5th September 2015, 10:09
It all depends on the packaging, the prettier the box, the better the product.
This is KB, afterall. :2thumbsup
Big Dog
5th September 2015, 10:09
An important factor in would I buy cordless is how much will I really use it. If the answer is less than once every couple of months a cord suits me just fine. I have lost a few power tools to failed batteries due to lack of use. Usually right about the time replacement batteries cease to be available.
I am not an expert in all things power tools but you are sacrificing power for convenience.
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IkieBikie
5th September 2015, 10:10
It all depends on the packaging, the prettier the box, the better the product.
This is KB, afterall. :2thumbsup
Don't be rude:bleh:
Big Dog
5th September 2015, 10:31
It all depends on the packaging, the prettier the box, the better the product.
This is KB, afterall. :2thumbsup
Are you suggesting a tool is only any good so long as you want to put it back in the box?
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Scuba_Steve
5th September 2015, 11:12
Never mind high SPM, waste of time even thinking about it. Wattage, length of stroke, variable speed and pendulum action are more important. As is base design and if it ain't a Bosch or Makita, you're looking at the wrong one. As for cordless, we got along without them for decades quite nicely, thank you.
The ones I'm looking at are exactly the same cept 1's 18v Li the other's mains powered & as mentioned the SPM 2600 vs 3000. I've done my research on brands & yes they're both Bosch PST 800 PEL & PST 18 Li are the 2 in consideration
It all depends on the packaging, the prettier the box, the better the product.
Well they do both come in a box, a plastic one even :sunny:
An important factor in would I buy cordless is how much will I really use it. If the answer is less than once every couple of months a cord suits me just fine. I have lost a few power tools to failed batteries due to lack of use. Usually right about the time replacement batteries cease to be available.
I am not an expert in all things power tools but you are sacrificing power for convenience.
Well the batt it would use is the same as I've already got on my cordless drill so it wouldn't be sitting round going dead when the jigsaw's not in use.
On the flip side I'm thinking I might use a jigsaw slightly more if it were cordless as often instead of dragging out the extension cords I'll grab the handsaw instead
Akzle
5th September 2015, 11:47
jigsaw????
Be a man.
Get a sabre saw.
Laava
5th September 2015, 14:04
Looking at new DIY jigsaw & wanting to know if 2400 SPM is gonna be enough or if I'll need the 3000 SPM?
Is the 600 SPM difference going to matter? I don't expect to be doing a huge amount if much at all of hardwoods most the work will be pine & metals I would expect so would I need the 3000 SPM or would the 2400 SPM suffice
Reason I ask as this is pretty much the only difference between going the convenience of cordless vs the power of corded... Powertools are just one of these rare things that teh interwebs isn't very good at explaining
Pine is actually one of the worst timbers to be cutting with a jigsaw. It is invariably damp and furs up badly which can lead to jamming and struggling to cut a straight line. You will be best advised to get a jigsaw that has a decent "throw" rather than blade speed. This is a seperate action that throws the blade forward on the upstroke only and is adjustable to suit. You would have it set on zero for metals and plastic for instance. This rules out cheap jigsaws altogether and do not buy a cordless one unless you have a quality battery drill that you can use the battery of. In other words you can buy a jigsaw "skin" only
tri boy
5th September 2015, 15:45
jigsaw????
Be a man.
Get a sabre saw.
Pffft
Chuck Norris uses a chainsaw for finish work.
Berries
5th September 2015, 17:36
Paging Mr J.A.W.
Paging Mr J.A.W.
FJRider
5th September 2015, 17:40
Paging Mr J.A.W.
Paging Mr J.A.W.
He's "Out To Lunch" ... he may be some time ... :shifty:
Swoop
5th September 2015, 19:55
It all depends on the packaging, the prettier the box, the better the product.
Remember the advertising... "CHEAP, is GOOD!!".
jigsaw????Be a man.
Get a sabre saw.
Then be a real man. Get a handsaw.
Cordless, no charging time involved. Works at extremely long distances away from a mains outlet.
Soft-cocks need not apply.
Big Dog
5th September 2015, 23:36
Pine is actually one of the worst timbers to be cutting with a jigsaw. It is invariably damp and furs up badly which can lead to jamming and struggling to cut a straight line. You will be best advised to get a jigsaw that has a decent "throw" rather than blade speed. This is a seperate action that throws the blade forward on the upstroke only and is adjustable to suit. You would have it set on zero for metals and plastic for instance. This rules out cheap jigsaws altogether and do not buy a cordless one unless you have a quality battery drill that you can use the battery of. In other words you can buy a jigsaw "skin" only
That may be why the m10 in puke sells pine specific jigsaw blades.
IIRC They had a more hooked tooth on one of the strokes.
Until a couple of weeks ago when I went looking for a blade for my 10+ year old jigsaw I had only seen wood, metal, plastics in course or fine. Nowadays, must be a 50 choices in stock and a catalogue if that doesn't suit.
Finished up with a wood furniture finishing fine blade with reverse cutting action. Supposedly better at not delaminating oly and malteca etc. SMS like a bloody specific blade to me.
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