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Viking01
24th September 2015, 11:58
Hi, A friend of mine asked me whether I could source a copy of the HEMA 'New Zealand Motorcycle Atlas' for him. I did a quick online search of the usual repositories (including HEMA), and none came up as having stock. Anyone happen to know who in NZ might be holding stock, or who happen to have a copy that would be willing to sell ?

My own copy is 'Second Edition' and has ISBN number 978-1-877302-32-9.

Any help welcomed. Cheers.

Hobbyhorse
24th September 2015, 14:44
It has been out of print for a while now.

Viking01
24th September 2015, 17:48
It has been out of print for a while now.

Thanks. I had assumed as much, and contacted HEMA Maps to see if they were holding
and residual stock, or were planning a reprint in the future. Cheers.

Bikemad
25th September 2015, 18:34
Twisting Throttle NZ by the late Mike Hyde is a good alternative.......50 of the best rides in the country......half on seal half on gravel

eldog
25th September 2015, 20:19
Twisting Throttle NZ by the late Mike Hyde is a good alternative.......50 of the best rides in the country......half on seal half on gravel

A great fun reference book. Makes me WANT to go to those places and stop along the way-rather than just pass on through.:headbang:

Viking01
26th September 2015, 14:32
Twisting Throttle NZ by the late Mike Hyde is a good alternative.......50 of the best rides in the country......half on seal half on gravel

Yes, good thinking. I have three of Mike Hyde's book, including his latest 'Twisting Throttle NZ'. My friend is mad on Vespas, so his touring is probably geared towards travelling on a Vespa (size doesn't seem to stop them, but I'm nots so sure about gravel :laugh:). I'll loan him my book, and if it meets his needs, then he can probably still get a copy himself. Cheers.

FJRider
26th September 2015, 16:19
Hi, A friend of mine asked me whether I could source a copy of the HEMA 'New Zealand Motorcycle Atlas' for him. I did a quick online search of the usual repositories (including HEMA), and none came up as having stock. Anyone happen to know who in NZ might be holding stock, or who happen to have a copy that would be willing to sell ?

My own copy is 'Second Edition' and has ISBN number 978-1-877302-32-9.

Any help welcomed. Cheers.

http://www.trademe.co.nz/books/nonfiction/transport/bikes/auction-953717810.htm

eldog
26th September 2015, 17:46
http://www.trademe.co.nz/books/nonfiction/transport/bikes/auction-953717810.htm

so FJ is it worth getting? or am i better off riding where ever and finding my own way.
Already got Mike's Twisted Throttle NZ ... love it.

FJRider
26th September 2015, 17:54
so FJ is it worth getting?

I have had one in the past but gave it away to a newbie friend. I swapped it for a New Zealand handy atlas.

The SAME maps but with no motorcycle photos or marked "motorcycyle friendly" roads. (and cheaper ...)

"Great Escapes" by Peter Mitchell .. would be my choice of books for finding such info' ... BUT ... isn't that is what KB can tell you .. ??? There are a few threads on the subject of good roads to ride.

Gremlin
26th September 2015, 20:54
so FJ is it worth getting? or am i better off riding where ever and finding my own way.
Already got Mike's Twisted Throttle NZ ... love it.
Mike's books are entertaining reads as well as good routes, however, nothing beats going down a road because you never have, and seeing where it goes!

MarkH
27th September 2015, 09:42
so FJ is it worth getting? or am i better off riding where ever and finding my own way.
Already got Mike's Twisted Throttle NZ ... love it.

I'd say it is worth having and it doesn't stop you from also riding where ever you like.
I bought a copy to get some good suggestions of placed to go on my ST but then used it for some good gravel roads for my DR.
Back in March I went with the suggestions for coromandel peninsular gravel roads and got a heap of gravel riding practise in.
When I do a trip in the South Island I'll use some more suggestions from the book and maybe a few suggestions from these forums too.
I can't see how having more suggestions to consider is a bad thing.

eldog
27th September 2015, 10:33
I'd say it is worth having and it doesn't stop you from also riding where ever you like and maybe a few suggestions from these forums too.
I can't see how having more suggestions to consider is a bad thing.

Aye, that's how I see it. I have plenty of books, read almost all of them once. Mikes book about a dozen times. LOL
I reread each section as I ride them and I try to incorporate more variety, by not travelling the same route more than once. I need the practise of variety of roads/situations to improve my skills/confidence.

Yep, gravel/adventure riding is a skill I need to start at, I think this will help me relax-AFTER some practise.


Gremlin http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/images/BP-Brown/misc/quote_icon.pngMike's books are entertaining reads as well as good routes, however, nothing beats going down a road because you never have, and seeing where it goes!

That's the plan. I am a late starter, need to catch-up on what I have missed out, but I try to avoid pitfalls, that's why I look at Books and KB:weird:

FJRider http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/images/BP-Brown/misc/quote_icon.png "Great Escapes" by Peter Mitchell .. would be my choice of books for finding such info' ... BUT ... isn't that is what KB can tell you .. ??? There are a few threads on the subject of good roads to ride.

Checking out Waikato and Laxed out rides, they are in easy reach of my limited time, but I am finding with planning I can go further afield in the same time - Quite often now late at night after work. Pitstops and fuel are the main concern.

MarkH
27th September 2015, 11:08
Yep, gravel/adventure riding is a skill I need to start at, I think this will help me relax-AFTER some practise.


Until the start of this year I hadn't done any off-road or DS riding, so I bought a 2nd hand DR650, did a 1 day course with Northern Gravel Adventure Riders NZ, rode a few hundred kms on gravel, rode a bunch of off-road with another group.
Now I'm far from experienced but I do have a hell of a lot more experience than I used to. I'm not totally confident yet but I'm now not scared to head off-road.

All motorcycling is the same - take it easy at first, get some experience, maybe get some training in, get more experience, more experience again, practise, practise, practise, etc.
Over time you gain confidence & skill and you still keep on learning.

But enough of that, the weather is beautiful so I need to go for a ride!

Hobbyhorse
27th September 2015, 12:16
If you are looking for gravel roads there is a link to an online map of all gravel roads in New Zealand on the Adventure Riding website:

http://www.adventureridingnz.co.nz/forums/topic/map-of-every-unsealed-road-in-new-zealand/

When overlaid on Google Earth it is a very good resource.

eldog
27th September 2015, 13:43
If you are looking for gravel roads there is a link to an online map of all gravel roads in New Zealand on the Adventure Riding website:

http://www.adventureridingnz.co.nz/forums/topic/map-of-every-unsealed-road-in-new-zealand/

When overlaid on Google Earth it is a very good resource.

Thanks for that.

Gravel - End of Next Years project

but will use it for this years projects

the 1KC in Nov - a real test for me.

and the 2K+ end of year/new year group ride - actual route to be determined, so the above will come in quite handy :woohoo:

FJRider
27th September 2015, 14:04
Gravel - End of Next Years project



Just remember that not all gravel roads are created / exist as equal. A well used metal road is easier than some goat track sealed roads.


Depends a lot on the last time the grader went thru.

eldog
27th September 2015, 14:43
Just remember that not all gravel roads are created / exist as equal. A well used metal road is easier than some goat track sealed roads.


Depends a lot on the last time the grader went thru.

good reminder, I had almost forgotten my first couple of gravel poodles.......:no:
havent don't much since

BrendonF
6th November 2015, 12:58
Just remember that not all gravel roads are created / exist as equal. A well used metal road is easier than some goat track sealed roads.


Depends a lot on the last time the grader went thru.

Try one of those roads on a sport bike with hard suspension and slick tires, not much fun. My previous FJR1300 fully loaded weighed in at 350 +kg plus my fat ass. Then when the back flicks out on loose gravel and all your weight rather high, that's not much fun either.

I try to avoid all dirt roads at all times.

I just ordered a copy of Twisted Throttle, get it tomorrow with O/N delivery.

Fernet Dan
18th December 2015, 10:53
Morning all

I am the mad on Vespas friend. Basically they can go anywhere. We rode over Red Rocks devil's gate one day and freaked out some guys on dirt bikes.

The reason I am interested in the Atlas is that every year we do this ride. http://motoretta.co.nz/ and it is good to get a little bit of insight into the roads that we will be riding

As for gravel it isn't created equal, but the stains on the undies are always the same colour when it starts to get too loose.

thanks again for the suggestions

Big Dog
19th January 2016, 21:42
Just found my copy. Second edition. Unopened.
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Reckless
19th January 2016, 22:21
My son bought me one couple of years ago for my Birthday was out of print at that time but he found one.
Good book damn good task to complete all the rides in it as a bucket list goal.

Big Dog
19th January 2016, 22:35
Kind of what I thought when I didn't have one.
I didn't get it new but am told it has never even been out of its sleeve.
I don't have time or money for fun at the moment.
If someone wants a copy let me know what you think it's worth and I'll decide if in want to hang on to it for another few years till I do have time to use it.

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Viking01
20th January 2016, 12:53
Kind of what I thought when I didn't have one.
I didn't get it new but am told it has never even been out of its sleeve.
I don't have time or money for fun at the moment.
If someone wants a copy let me know what you think it's worth and I'll decide if in want to hang on to it for another few years till I do have time to use it.

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Hi,
Am still interested in getting hold of a copy, as my riding mate has confirmed his interest.
Have PM'd you with my contact details.
Cheers, Viking01

Zyre
10th February 2016, 08:17
Hi, I am selling my copy. It is listed on TradeMe for 1 dollar reserve.

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=1031164299

Chris