Another rider taken too soon

[5150]

My sympathies to his family and friends. RIP.. :( Good on those who fought to save him...

http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/news/72795389/highspeed-motorcycle-crash-victims-last-moments

[jellywrestler]

Omg rip

[nodrog]

I see God was no help.

[Akzle]

do you know the cunt personally?

Cos it sounds like he darwinned out of talent.
And frankly, thems no great loss.

[Madness]

I'm picking it was another dodgy side-stand spring.

[Katman]

I'm picking it was another dodgy side-stand spring.

Either that or a fucking cager.

[Virago]

OMG, another of the brotherhood has fallen. Ride on in heaven, dude...:facepalm:

[TheDemonLord]

Doing 100+ kph in a 50 kph zone and wrapping yourself round a pole when you loose control.

My Sympathy circuits are failing to engage.

[PrincessBandit]

While I am in agreement with the fairly unsympathetic sentiments shown so far in this thread it was hopefully some small comfort for the rider to have someome there with them as they were dying.

[jonnyk5614]

Regardless of what sound like frankly idiotic circumstances (and I hate to judge without knowing facts), a life is a life. A tragedy is a tragedy.

His mother has had to bury her son and what those that went to his aid saw will never leave them.

Rest in peace.

[Akzle]

Regardless of what sound like frankly idiotic circumstances (and I hate to judge without knowing facts), a life is a life. A tragedy is a tragedy.

His mother has had to bury her son and what those that went to his aid saw will never leave them.

Rest in peace.

hold the phonograph while i tune my violin.

Niggaz getting shot to death every day, wheres yall boohoo for them?

This is not a fucking tragedy, a tragedy would be if he'd killed a van full of puppies.
A mother has to bury her MORON. How do you even know she liked the cunt? Talk about assuming without knowing the fuken facts...

And the wanna-be rescuers? They saw? someone die. Boo fucking hoo. They did their best but in the end darwin prevailed. Their conscience can rest. Hopefully they took away an object lesson in physics and fuckwits and narry the two shall meet..

[awayatc]

Was he in pole position...?

[trustme]

It's a sad state of affairs when I start to agree with Akzle. :shutup:

[Katman]

It's a sad state of affairs when I start to agree with Akzle. :shutup:

Akzle makes considerably more sense on here than he is ever given credit for.

[trustme]

Akzle makes considerably more sense on here than he is ever given credit for.

Delete that post immediately or he will start to take himself seriously.

[Grubber]

It's a sad state of affairs when I start to agree with Akzle. :shutup:

Don't worry yourself as there is plenty of us here that still think he is the biggest fuckwit to grace this forum.
I know i still do.

This young fella probably only had a couple of speeding tickets in his life and while i think he was being a twat at the time i don't believe for one minute he deserved to die.
He didn't shoot innocent people or rape your sister so he wasn't a bad bugger obviously, so to slag him off when he has no right of reply is plain gutless and heartless to boot.
As someone pointed out he has a family that would have cared very much about him and now through one stupid event they no longer have him.
Cast the first stone if no one has ever done something they thought was stupid in their lives.

[Maha]

Akzle makes considerably more sense on here than he is ever given credit for.

Fuck!... I should add that oxymoron to my signature as well....:killingme

[Bikemad]

Doing 100+ kph in a 50 kph zone and wrapping yourself round a pole when you loose control.

My Sympathy circuits are failing to engage.
the real tragedy here is KB posters inability to spell LOSE correctly.....check the RWC thread for more examples



Don't worry yourself as there is plenty of us here that still think he is the biggest fuckwit to grace this forum.
I know i still do.

This young fella probably only had a couple of speeding tickets in his life and while i think he was being a twat at the time i don't believe for one minute he deserved to die.
He didn't shoot innocent people or rape your sister so he wasn't a bad bugger obviously, so to slag him off when he has no right of reply is plain gutless and heartless to boot.
As someone pointed out he has a family that would have cared very much about him and now through one stupid event they no longer have him.
Cast the first stone if no one has ever done something they thought was stupid in their lives.

well said that man......

[Katman]

Fuck!... I should add that oxymoron to my signature as well....:killingme

Knock yourself out shitforbrains.

[Virago]

Don't worry yourself as there is plenty of us here that still think he is the biggest fuckwit to grace this forum.
I know i still do.

This young fella probably only had a couple of speeding tickets in his life and while i think he was being a twat at the time i don't believe for one minute he deserved to die.
He didn't shoot innocent people or rape your sister so he wasn't a bad bugger obviously, so to slag him off when he has no right of reply is plain gutless and heartless to boot.
As someone pointed out he has a family that would have cared very much about him and now through one stupid event they no longer have him.
Cast the first stone if no one has ever done something they thought was stupid in their lives.

It sounds like you know him well. Or are you just making it all up as you go along?

[Maha]

Knock yourself out shitforbrains.

Can't be a lot of sand let in your pit...:laugh:

[TheDemonLord]

the real tragedy here is KB posters inability to spell LOSE correctly.....check the RWC thread for more examples

True - my Sellping can be ufcking shockgni

my point however remains, regardless of his reasons for doing so - he was riding at speeds unsuitable for the road he was on. Sure he didn't deserve to die, but he doesn't deserve my sympathy either.

[Shaun Harris]

The negative comments in this thread, just show the true caricature of the people who have posted them. I do not care if he was a bad boy, or stole from the corner dairy, he is DEAD FFS. Proof of the poor caricatures of the posters of the negative comments I say. YES, I also thought negative things when I read the story about the speed he was doing, but come on Children, have you never broken the speed limit your selves? He did not kill any one else, so grow a brain if possible, and shut the fuck up and show some respect to the man and his family, he is DEAD- Gone- Never to enjoy fresh air, the sun, or a motorbike again. Im outa this thread now. If nothing positive to say, say nothing you key board hero's.

[GrayWolf]

Don't worry yourself as there is plenty of us here that still think he is the biggest fuckwit to grace this forum.
I know i still do.

This young fella probably only had a couple of speeding tickets in his life and while i think he was being a twat at the time i don't believe for one minute he deserved to die.
He didn't shoot innocent people or rape your sister so he wasn't a bad bugger obviously, so to slag him off when he has no right of reply is plain gutless and heartless to boot.
As someone pointed out he has a family that would have cared very much about him and now through one stupid event they no longer have him.
Cast the first stone if no one has ever done something they thought was stupid in their lives.

I think the relevant thing in all of this, is, the family who will suffer the grief he has left behind, for them I have full sympathy. For him? FUCK ALL, he was doing a RIDICULOUS speed, he could well have taken out a pedestrian, even a child etc in the process of wiping himself out. Sympathy for the rider is when they are injured/killed through no fault of their own, in this case, it was Darwin in action. Again I'll say it, my sympathies are for the family he left behind, ZERO for the rider in this instance.

[EJK]

OMG, another of the brotherhood has fallen. Ride on in heaven, dude...:facepalm:

In memory of the fallen rider I should go arond that corner at 140kph knee-down. The young rider up in the sky will look down on me proud!

[trustme]

I think the relevant thing in all of this, is, the family who will suffer the grief he has left behind, for them I have full sympathy. For him? FUCK ALL, he was doing a RIDICULOUS speed, he could well have taken out a pedestrian, even a child etc in the process of wiping himself out. Sympathy for the rider is when they are injured/killed through no fault of their own, in this case, it was Darwin in action. Again I'll say it, my sympathies are for the family he left behind, ZERO for the rider in this instance.

Exactly , I feel no sympathy for him , his friends & family are now going through hell because of his stupidity.
Yes in the past I have done dumb shit , I learned before I got the ultimate lesson.

[pritch]

Yes in the past I have done dumb shit , I learned before I got the ultimate lesson.

In my case I suspect it was more good luck than good management. :whistle:

[Akzle]

Delete that post immediately or he will start to take himself seriously.

you obviously underestimate my capacity for giving no fucks about any serious thing.

But fuck, the weather is hot up here man. Summer is going to be killa!

[TheDemonLord]

In my case I suspect it was more good luck than good management. :whistle:

There is a quote I am fond of that encapsulates that notion:


You start with a bag full of luck and an empty bag of experience. The trick is to fill the bag of experience before you empty the bag of luck.

[GrayWolf]

The negative comments in this thread, just show the true caricature of the people who have posted them. I do not care if he was a bad boy, or stole from the corner dairy, he is DEAD FFS. Proof of the poor caricatures of the posters of the negative comments I say. YES, I also thought negative things when I read the story about the speed he was doing, but come on Children, have you never broken the speed limit your selves? He did not kill any one else, so grow a brain if possible, and shut the fuck up and show some respect to the man and his family, he is DEAD- Gone- Never to enjoy fresh air, the sun, or a motorbike again. Im outa this thread now. If nothing positive to say, say nothing you key board hero's.

caricature?? Christ Shaun, we have all broken the speed limit, but in excess of 100kph in a built up area?? And in the middle of the afternoon? The fact he didnt wipe out a pedestrian is more by sheer lucky chance than anything. We ALL seem to have sympathy for the family he left behind, but he was riding like a fuckwit, pure and simple, if I die under similar circumstances? I'd be expecting exactly the same responses in here, I'd deserve every one of them.
yes he's dead and gone, never to enjoy the sun, or ride a bike again, sorry, but thank fuck it was ONLY himself he took out.

[Drew]

Delete that post immediately or he will start to take himself seriously.

Ummm, I doubt it.

[Autech]

Exactly , I feel no sympathy for him , his friends & family are now going through hell because of his stupidity.
Yes in the past I have done dumb shit , I learned before I got the ultimate lesson.


In my case I suspect it was more good luck than good management. :whistle:

I thank fuck most days that I never got on bikes when I was younger (started riding at 21 I think). If I had done some of the shit I got away with in cars on a fast bike, there would be little chance that I would be here now.

To all the people posting negatives, remember we have all been there and done that, I know I did, I was just lucky enough to get away with it. This chap wasn't so lucky.

Thoughts are with his family and those who saw him pass. What a shithouse waste of life.

[nodrog]

....we have all broken the speed limit, but in excess of 100kph in a built up area?? And in the middle of the afternoon?.....

I do every time I come down the hill to home, on the back wheel, the hoodrat kids love it.

[Conquiztador]

RIP dude.

And to all commenting on here:
- We have no idea re his speed. Some peoples comment that "He was going fast" means nothing.
- We have no idea what caused the crash. Speed? Rider error? Road? Weather? Failure of a bike part? Sun in his eyes? A combination of a few of these?
- There are people who will miss him and who's lives will never be the same. Opinionated comments re his stupidity will not make their situation better. Whoever he was he did not deserve to die.

My sincere condolences to his family and friends.

[skippa1]

Ive ridden like a fuck wit before, possibly will again ......

shit does happen too

P.S. Spelling nazis is it fuck wit or fuckwit, spellcheck wont tell me

[babysteps]

What a shithouse waste of life.

^^^^^ This.

[GrayWolf]

RIP dude.

And to all commenting on here:
- We have no idea re his speed. Some peoples comment that "He was going fast" means nothing.
- We have no idea what caused the crash. Speed? Rider error? Road? Weather? Failure of a bike part? Sun in his eyes? A combination of a few of these?
- There are people who will miss him and who's lives will never be the same. Opinionated comments re his stupidity will not make their situation better. Whoever he was he did not deserve to die.

My sincere condolences to his family and friends.

no idea re his speed?? The popo are not THAT friggin dumb, they've already commented 'excessive speed' and did you bother to look at the state of the signal pole?? how elsw would it have been so badly damaged apart from a considerable impact.
all the opinionated comment agree the tragedy for the ones he has left behind, but for himself?? no sorry......

[awayatc]

P.S. Spelling nazis is it fuck wit or fuckwit, spellcheck wont tell me

would have thought it was fuck with....., or if you prefer fuckwith .

Does that make me a nazi....?

always fancied their boots.......

[Grubber]

It sounds like you know him well. Or are you just making it all up as you go along?

Probably know him as well as you do! Yet your opinion of him is not so great. Maybe you know him better??
Difference is i have a respect for a human life regardless of how it happened.
Like i said, if he didn't rape your daughter or murder your wife, there is a good chance he isn't too bad a chap. Just made a mistake.
Let me guess, you have never made a mistake??

[pzkpfw]

The thing is, there are two very obvious things here:

1: It's very sad. Sad for the friends and family he left behind. And the witnesses and people who dealt with it.
2: He fucked up.

Because both of those things are obvious, we could have said nothing. Not even made this thread.

Or, we could respond to 1. We can say lots of "brotherhood of bikers" things about how sad it is to see another rider taken too soon. Personally, I think that's a bit pointless. The "brotherhood of bikers" thing is largely a myth, and anyone who didn't know the guy (or his friends or family) saying nice/sad things about him probably does mean well, but is saying it more for themselves.

So we're left with 2. In that case, while it's still obvious, at least it has a slight chance of maybe making the next rider think about his or her actions, in moments of red mist.

We all (me) fuck up sometimes, and many of us (me) have survived those fuck ups not because of our own skills. But that doesn't mean, with appropriate levels of respect for a fellow human, talking about this guys fuck up is a bad thing. In fact, it's about the only real use for this thread.

[TheDemonLord]

About a year or so ago I got rubbished on here for saying there is no such thing as being fast and safe and what happend to this guy is the proof.

One can be fast and safe - its much more difficult to be to Too fast and safe

[jasonu]

About a year or so ago I got rubbished on here for saying there is no such thing as being fast and safe and what happend to this guy is the proof.

Nothing has changed. You and your shit opinions are still rubbish.

[Akzle]

About a year or so ago I got rubbished on here for saying there is no such thing as being fast and safe and what happend to this guy is the proof.

no. This is proof that idiots cant.

Proof that if you ride beyond your talent, your level of safety decreases drastically.

Refer the 210mph wheelie thread.

[shellfish]

Sorry folks, but I've got to disagree with most of the posts.
I live about 1 km from the crash site and travel past the spot every day. One side of the road is a college, and the dairy is on the other. The traffic lights is where ALL the kids cross at that time of the day.
The road, and the corner are both good quality, so aren't a factor and the weather was fine and dry.

This guy was speeding, there is no way not to make the turn at anything around 50k's. I reckon you should be able to comfortable make it at 100 even, but it is a 50k area.

I've got zero sympathy for this dick, it was pure luck that he didn't collect a group of school kids - how would you feel if your kid got bowled. I would be pissed if it was one of mine.

While you have to feel for the family, there was only one person at fault here.

Hope I don't get too flamed, but a local perspective was needed here.

Steve

[awayatc]

When a dick walks he is a dick

when a dick drives a car he is still a dick

but when he rides a bike.....?

he is still the same f**in dick.....

he didn't expire as a result of bad luck....

[awayatc]

Akzle makes considerably more sense on here than he is ever given credit for.

If I were to have a few beers with some KB' ers I would happily shout Akzle and Katman....

not so sure about some of the other dribblers on this forum

[Katman]

Sorry folks, but I've got to disagree with most of the posts

You should probably have another read of the thread then.

Most of the posts agree whole-heartedly with you.

[skippa1]

About a year or so ago I got rubbished on here for saying there is no such thing as being fast and safe and what happend to this guy is the proof.
Actually, you got rubbished because you are Fucked in the head

[Maha]

If I were to have a few beers with some KB' ers I would happily shout Akzle and Katman....

not so sure about some of the other dribblers on this forum


Just don't EVER disagree with either of them, or you'll become a cunt overnight without warning..and all the while, it's their baby bibs that keeps collecting the dribble.

[awayatc]

Just don't EVER disagree with either of them, or you'll become a cunt overnight without warning..

Appreciate your concern, but trust me, I have become a cunt many years ago......
and am quite good at it to.
Allready got a doormat, so enjoy spirited witty banter over a beer with interesting and intelligent people.....

go ahead...: shoot me

[Maha]

so enjoy spirited witty banter over a beer with interesting and intelligent people.....



So one will bore you to death with his interpretation of steel molecular formula and how it reacts to a plane impact and bombs and shit, the other will want to harp on about what effects natural lanolin has on certain parts of the human body, interesting to some I guess.

You'll probably want to shoot yourself.

[sidecar bob]

If I were to have a few beers with some KB' ers I would happily shout Akzle and Katman....

not so sure about some of the other dribblers on this forum

I can highly recommend Nodrog & Drew as beer drinking companions.
Both are far smarter than their school cert results would have had you believe.

[Jin]

Nogdog failed school c. FACT.

[Maha]

Nogdog failed school c. FACT.

He got University Entrance though, but he thought was only to grant him entry onto the Campus.

[MarkH]

So many here thinks that it matters that this rider made a mistake, they are wrong! Nothing matters for this rider any more and that is sad for his family/friends.
What matters is that others learn from his mistake and that YOU don't do stupid shit and suffer the same fate!
Take care people and try not to die.

I've made plenty of mistakes in the past and I'll make plenty of mistakes in the future, but I'll try to be careful when riding on city streets and attempt to not ride into a solid object, self preservation for the win!

[Crasherfromwayback]

- We have no idea re his speed. Some peoples comment that "He was going fast" means nothing.
- We have no idea what caused the crash. Speed? Rider error? Road? Weather? Failure of a bike part? Sun in his eyes? A combination of a few of these?
.

Don't be a fucking diddle.

The road surface was dry, it was a gorgeous day.The sun was high in the sky. I know the road/corner well, and I also know how solid those traffic light posts are.

They guy was going waaaaaay too fast in a 50k zone and could've skittled many innocent people. How'd you be if a family member of yours was killed by this clown?

Sad for the family yes, but very lucky it's only one family doing the grieving.

[scumdog]

I can highly recommend Nodrog & Drew as beer drinking companions.
Both are far smarter than their school cert results would have had you believe.

They sat School Cert??:eek5:

I'm IMPRESSED!!

[Katman]

They sat School Cert??:eek5:

I'm IMPRESSED!!

I reckon.

That almost makes them Police Superintendent material.

[Bikemad]

They sat School Cert??:eek5:

I'm IMPRESSED!!

don't be......no one said they passed

[Jin]

don't be......no one said they passed
Hey give some credit where is due. It's impressive they even attempted.

[Conquiztador]

Don't be a fucking diddle.

The road surface was dry, it was a gorgeous day.The sun was high in the sky. I know the road/corner well, and I also know how solid those traffic light posts are.

They guy was going waaaaaay too fast in a 50k zone and could've skittled many innocent people. How'd you be if a family member of yours was killed by this clown?

Sad for the family yes, but very lucky it's only one family doing the grieving.

Everyone is an expert and knows it all. Yes, it looks like his speed was high. But we do not know. Or maybe you have one of those time-travel-Lazy-Boys that gives you the option of seeing it in person? The rest of us were not close enough to be able to know.

Re your question how I would be if a family member was killed by him, that IS a stoopid question.

But all is as always here: opinions w/o knowledge.

[scumdog]

don't be......no one said they passed

Yeah well THAT would have pushed into the 'increbible league' claiming that!:laugh:

[Daffyd]

I can highly recommend Nodrog & Drew as beer drinking companions.
Both are far smarter than their school cert results would have had you believe.

I remember when I told my father I'd been expelled... He was angry. He said, "What about the School Cert?"

She got expelled too.

[Maha]

They sat School Cert??:eek5:

I'm IMPRESSED!!

.... then there are those who failed at that level and went on greater things, like.....continually trying to convince people that they don't even know, that their opinion is to be holy believed.


Note of interest, over the years, biker down threads (thankfully fewer than what there used to be) have become more of a two way street, rather than always the fault of someone else or something else.

[awa355]

Five pages and still, no one has asked the big question. "How is the bike?". :bye:

[jasonu]

Nogdog failed school c. FACT.

Thick cunt

[Robbo]

Five pages and still, no one has asked the big question. "How is the bike?". :bye:

I believe it's Fucked...
Lamp post not doing so well either..:lol::lol:

[awayatc]

All wrapped up for new owner....

[Akzle]

Five pages and still, no one has asked the big question. "How is the bike?". :bye:

for sale on trademe:

"only ridden gently on dry weekends, was involved in a minor lie down by previous owner, frame professionally straightened...
Some minor rust-coloured staining all over the tank, seat, handlebars, and a lamppost...
Sad to see it go, grab a bargain for summer"

[Drew]

Hey give some credit where is due. It's impressive they even attempted.

I fail to see how.

[Maha]

for sale on trademe:

"only ridden gently on dry weekends, was involved in a minor lie down by previous owner, frame professionally straightened...
Some minor rust-coloured staining all over the tank, seat, handlebars, and a lamppost...
Sad to see it go, grab a bargain for summer"

You should get an advance on your bene and buy it, add to your ever growing fucked collection of scrap metal.

[pritch]

That almost makes them Police Superintendent material.

Commissioned officers have to sit an intelligence test. If they fail the test they get the job.

The Police HR people are still working on the fine detail of this recruitment thingy.

[scumdog]

Commissioned officers have to sit an intelligence test. If they fail the test they get the job.

The Police HR people are still working on the fine detail of this recruitment thingy.

That explains my lack of Inspectorship....;)

[Swoop]

About a year or so ago I got rubbished on here for saying there is no such thing as being fast and safe and what happend to this guy is the proof.

Well, you're still wrong.

Case in point. I spent considerable time travelling the NI roads last week at decent licence-losing speeds (pissed off a cop and scared a camera-van operator, too boot). The outcome? No crashes, No accidents, No tickets.
Fast AND safe.

[scumdog]

Well, you're still wrong.

Case in point. I spent considerable time travelling the NI roads last week at decent licence-losing speeds (pissed off a cop and scared a camera-van operator, too boot). The outcome? No crashes, No accidents, No tickets.
Fast AND safe.


THIS time...<_<

[mossy1200]

Go past the spot every day and to reduce a lamp pole (not the small one but the one behind the popo) to half its normal width and bend it this was clearly well in excess of 100. The surface is smooth and was a nice day when it happened. Its also the crossing between the school and the railway station.

Creating risk is taking a risk but I guess most have a near miss just this wasn't a miss.

[Ikarus]

Tough crowd.

He's dead.

Why piss on his grave? He doesn't care, or notice.

You feel better for it? Tragic all round.

[Virago]

If it was a boy racer who wrapped his car around a pole would there be a "taken too soon" thread?

The only difference is that it was a biker. Does the fabled "biker brotherhood" make things different? I'm curious.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Everyone is an expert and knows it all. Yes, it looks like his speed was high. But we do not know. Or maybe you have one of those time-travel-Lazy-Boys that gives you the option of seeing it in person? The rest of us were not close enough to be able to know.

.

Well why don't you go and see what sort of damage you can do to one of those posts at semi sane speeds? Preferably with your head you fucking muppet.

[Conquiztador]

Well why don't you go and see what sort of damage you can do to one of those posts at semi sane speeds? Preferably with your head you fucking muppet.

I have not been on here much in the last couple or so years. Last I remember of you, you were a decent and intelligent chap, has that changed? I have no problem with you having a different opinion to me but that does not justify personal attacks.

I have not seen the pole after the crash, nor did I see the crash or the rider on his bike before the crash. Therefore if I had an opinion re what happened it would only be guesswork and a judgement of the now dead rider withouth knowing the facts. I am sure many on here are in same situation. He might have had a medical condition, the bike might have malfunctioned, there might have been another vehicle involved, the options are almost endless. There is also a big chance that he over-estimated his riding skills and crashed, as a result, and killed him self. But my point is that we do not know. Therefore to call him names and blanket him with blame is unfair as he cannot be here to reply.

[GrayWolf]

I have not been on here much in the last couple or so years. Last I remember of you, you were a decent and intelligent chap, has that changed? I have no problem with you having a different opinion to me but that does not justify personal attacks.

I have not seen the pole after the crash, nor did I see the crash or the rider on his bike before the crash. Therefore if I had an opinion re what happened it would only be guesswork and a judgement of the now dead rider withouth knowing the facts. I am sure many on here are in same situation. He might have had a medical condition, the bike might have malfunctioned, there might have been another vehicle involved, the options are almost endless. There is also a big chance that he over-estimated his riding skills and crashed, as a result, and killed him self. But my point is that we do not know. Therefore to call him names and blanket him with blame is unfair as he cannot be here to reply.

EXCEPT:
eye witnesses have not commented on any other vehicle being involved, and commented he was goig 'really fast'.
the Popo have expert crash investigators, and to already release a statement of 'excessive speed likely involved' is not something they would say 'lightly'
also, look at the pictures, the amount of collapse od diameter, and bend in the pole. Physics of leverage, to bend it from so low an impact point? Would require a pretty reasonable amount of force, and it doesnt appear to be a 'glancing blow' does it?
then look at the distance away from the pole the bike finally came to rest?


I think you'd be hard pushed to find any other explanation than 'speed'.

[jonnyk5614]

To be fair "eyewitnesses" always seem to say bikes are fast.

Mate of mine almost T boned someone at 40kph. He pulled along side and said "didn't you look?" She went "look at your bike, you must have been speeding"

400cc KTM

Quite probably his fault for sure but no way our right to decide that yet.


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[MarkH]

About a year or so ago I got rubbished on here for saying there is no such thing as being fast and safe and what happend to this guy is the proof.

I don't think that you even grasp the basics of logic and reasoning, let alone proof. For a start you can't prove a negative.
MotoGP is proof that you can have fast and safe.
This incident is proof that you can have fast and unsafe.

Your logic is like watching someone trip over their own feet and declaring that to be proof that it isn't possible for people to walk without tripping over their own feet.

[awayatc]

About a year or so ago I got rubbished on here for saying there is no such thing as being fast and safe and what happend to this guy is the proof.

You are like a hot air balloon.......

without the balloon.....

[Akzle]

I think you'd be hard pushed to find any other explanation than * 'speed'.

*inappropriate...speed.


combined with a severe deficiency of talent.

[Ikarus]

*inappropriate...speed.


combined with a severe deficiency of talent.

Hard to argue with that.

[Drew]

*inappropriate...speed.


combined with a severe deficiency of talent.

Cut it out Rob. Jew cunts are starting to rally behind you..IN SUPPORT of what you're saying. It ain't right.

[Maha]

Cut it out Rob. Jew cunts are starting to rally behind you..IN SUPPORT of what you're saying. It ain't right.

Jew cunts and low IQ holders... yeah nah seems about right.

[Jin]

You just got lucky and I bet the guy who crashed felt his riding was fast and safe untill he crashed too.
What is a safe speed?

[onearmedbandit]

You just got lucky and I bet the guy who crashed felt his riding was fast and safe untill he crashed too.

If that's the case (and you don't know that) then he's an idiot. I've ridden fast'n'safe plenty times and come home safely.

[onearmedbandit]

What is a safe speed?

What his bike manual says...

[Crasherfromwayback]

I have not been on here much in the last couple or so years. Last I remember of you, you were a decent and intelligent chap, has that changed? I have no problem with you having a different opinion to me but that does not justify personal attacks.

I have not seen the pole after the crash, .

Then you have a bad memory. I've never been either of those things. But seriously...get a look at the pole (directly opposite a school) he wasted.

[jasonu]

What is a safe speed?

Leave your bike in the garage.

[Berries]

You just got lucky and I bet the guy who crashed felt his riding was fast and safe untill he crashed too.
Wahey, Groundhog Day again.

[Kickaha]

You just got lucky and I bet the guy who crashed felt his riding was fast and safe untill he crashed too.

In that case I have been lucky for 30+ years

[Jin]

What his bike manual says...
I thought Cassina was female. Just assumed from reading his/her posts.

[Maha]

What is a safe speed?

Circumstantial speed is safe.....Where you get away with it...other wise,

There isn't one really, for argument sake, most speeds are not safe if you riding in shorts and jandels, 30-100 kph is not a safe speed if you (or someone else) fuck things up, that's been proven many times.

If something goes wrong, no matter what speed you are riding at above say 30kph, the outcome will probably be not to your liking. You probably wont die at such a low speed but it's going to hurt.

[Maha]

But generally speaking the faster you go the less safe the speed is as stopping distances become longer if shit happens. Sure people die under the speed limit but the chances are still less due to having more time to stop if you have any time at all.

Stating the obvious was not my point. In saying that, no one can argue with both posts.

[skippa1]

But generally speaking the faster you go the less safe the speed is as stopping distances become longer if shit happens. Sure people die under the speed limit but the chances are still less due to having more time to stop if you have any time at all.
Remember.....

[mossy1200]

EXCEPT:

also, look at the pictures, the amount of collapse od diameter, and bend in the pole. Physics of leverage, to bend it from so low an impact point? Would require a pretty reasonable amount of force, and it doesnt appear to be a 'glancing blow' does it?



I think you'd be hard pushed to find any other explanation than 'speed'.

Plus forget the little pole that the traffic lights on it the lamp post behind it that's twice normal width and half as thick as it was. Even the light at the top of the lamp post is facing down the road and broken. Pics don't show it because its behind popo in photo. Its also damaged a metre off the ground and bent like a banana.
Normally im a benefit of the doubt guy but there is no evidence to say speed wasn't a factor in this case.

[Akzle]

But generally speaking the faster you go the less safe the speed is as stopping distances become longer if shit happens. Sure people die under the speed limit but the chances are still less due to having more time to stop if you have any time at all.

jesus fucking fuck. Do you work for nzta??? The faster you go the bigger the risk bullshit...

I see you didnt take anything away from the last threads. You're a hazard to yourself with that poor mental attitude.
Take up knitting. Just go slow, those plastic pointy things could hurt you, if your not paying attention to what the fuck you're doing..

(80% of fatal crashes are under the speed limit) (if you're paying fucking attention, very little surprises you) (clearly, the powerpole ran out in front of this guy like some kind of dog from behind some kind of fence)

:facepalm:

[Akzle]

Plus forget the little pole that the traffic lights on it the lamp post behind it that's twice normal width and half as thick as it was. Even the light at the top of the lamp post is facing down the road and broken. Pics don't show it because its behind popo in photo. Its also damaged a metre off the ground and bent like a banana.
Normally im a benefit of the doubt guy but there is no evidence to say speed wasn't a factor in this case.

no. 'Speed' was not a factor. Stupidity was.
Speed was what caused that amount of damage on impact. (m.v^2 kind of shit. Ask demon)

However, without the impact, the speed would have been irrelevant.

[Katman]

But generally speaking the faster you go the less safe the speed is as stopping distances become longer if shit happens.

It depends on your degree of situational awareness.

Perhaps we should concentrate more on what's going on around us instead of 'going fast'.

If we did that, 'going fast' might not end up being so dangerous.

[awayatc]

Talking sensibly to casino is like trying to pick up a turd from the clean end......

[WNJ]

Circumstantial speed is safe.....Where you get away with it...other wise,

There isn't one really, for argument sake, most speeds are not safe if you riding in shorts and jandels, 30-100 kph is not a safe speed if you (or someone else) fuck things up, that's been proven many times.

If something goes wrong, no matter what speed you are riding at above say 30kph, the outcome will probably be not to your liking. You probably wont die at such a low speed but it's going to hurt.

Agreed totally ,I broke my wrist and had whiplash after being hit by a cage while I was stationary, wrote off my bike and car ,

[Brett]

I strongly disagree with morons doing those kinds of speeds in built up areas where pedestrians, particularly school kids, stand to be taken out. This is a clear example of actions having consequences and it is fortunate that only the guilty party here suffered the consequences.


That said, the holier than thou vitriol being spewed forth here is retarded. No fucking sense of decorum. Many young people when they first get onto bikes ride as though they are bullet proof and as though they cannot hurt another road user. I am guilty of this....and I know AT LEAST 20 OR 30 guys from KB that I used to ride with 10-12 years ago who rode equally as irresponsibly and I suspect that there is probably very little difference between this young rider and those of us who rode together on the "Coro GP" or similar type rides. Unfortunately, young guys are able to procure fast bikes long before we have the common sense to be responsible on them...even if the road craft skills make fast riding possible. The result will be riders who don't really think about the consequences of their actions.

But then, I guess you all probably kept your noses 100% clean and never did anything irresponsible or dangerous in your youth. That or you spent more time key board warrioring it up on here than actually out riding.

[Shaun Harris]

I strongly disagree with morons doing those kinds of speeds in built up areas where pedestrians, particularly school kids, stand to be taken out. This is a clear example of actions having consequences and it is fortunate that only the guilty party here suffered the consequences.


That said, the holier than thou vitriol being spewed forth here is retarded. No fucking sense of decorum. Many young people when they first get onto bikes ride as though they are bullet proof and as though they cannot hurt another road user. I am guilty of this....and I know AT LEAST 20 OR 30 guys from KB that I used to ride with 10-12 years ago who rode equally as irresponsibly and I suspect that there is probably very little difference between this young rider and those of us who rode together on the "Coro GP" or similar type rides. Unfortunately, young guys are able to procure fast bikes long before we have the common sense to be responsible on them...even if the road craft skills make fast riding possible. The result will be riders who don't really think about the consequences of their actions.

But then, I guess you all probably kept your noses 100% clean and never did anything irresponsible or dangerous in your youth. That or you spent more time key board warrioring it up on here than actually out riding.



Well said Brett. Bunch of dam key board no name hero's that there own shit does not stink

[Akzle]

Well said Brett. Bunch of dam key board no name hero's that there own shit does not stink

mine doesnt, actually.
You'll find that if your diet isnt full of over processed 'food' and chemical preservatives, colours, flavourings etc, neither would yours.

[Virago]

mine doesnt, actually.
You'll find that if your diet isnt full of over processed 'food' and chemical preservatives, colours, flavourings etc, neither would yours.

Be fair. That's a helluva lot of Milo he's got to get through.

[Akzle]

I heard a news report this morning that 2 group riders collided with 1 dying. Maybe 1 of them concerntrated too much on keeping up without realising how fast they were going. Concerntraing on the wrong things can be deadly just like high speed too.

except that 'high speed' is not, has not, never has and never will be, deadly

[Kickaha]

Maybe 1 of them concerntrated too much on keeping up without realising how fast they were going
and maybe 1 of them didn't

[FJRider]

I heard a news report this morning that 2 group riders collided with 1 dying. Maybe 1 of them concerntrated too much on keeping up without realising how fast they were going. Concerntraing on the wrong things can be deadly just like high speed too.

How do you know SPEED was the issue .. ?????


Perhaps they were just traveling too close together .... Group riders often do that.

[Akzle]

How do you know SPEED was the issue .. ?????


Perhaps they were just traveling too close together .... Group riders often do that.

which still doesnt matter UNTIL SOMEONE FUCKS UP.
Vis:
http://cache3.asset-cache.net/gc/51459057-250cc-rider-daniel-pedrosa-of-spain-leads-the-gettyimages.jpg?v=1&c=IWSAsset&k=2&d=v73I8yKeudcyX3bsJqipXtOaOOEm4ee9ooWiCt71OjdmbiM% 2FgBYHa1fSA0rF1bik
Christ knows why the fuck you morons have been bred or taught to believe that fucking up is par for course.

[FJRider]

which still doesnt matter UNTIL SOMEONE FUCKS UP.

Christ knows why the fuck you morons have been bred or taught to believe that fucking up is par for course.

Does it really matter if you die because of your own fuck up ... or somebody else's ...???

If public roads were up to the same standard as race tracks ... and the riders were riding to the standard of those in your pic ... fewer riders might die on public roads.

[Akzle]

and the riders were riding to the standard of those in your pic ... fewer riders might die on public roads.

abbreviated for clarity.

[jasonu]

. Maybe 1 of them concerntrated too much on keeping up without realising how fast they were going. .

Or maybe a dog ran out and the rider lost control while trying to avoid the alien space ship that was parked in front of the white house. What the fuck would you know?

[scumdog]

which still doesnt matter UNTIL SOMEONE FUCKS UP.

Christ knows why the fuck you morons have been bred or taught to believe that fucking up is par for course.

And on the public roads there are a lot of people around that can fuck up - more importantly, there's an awful lot of people out there that can fuck YOU right up in the blink of an eye.

[Berries]

I heard a news report this morning that 2 group riders collided with 1 dying. Maybe 1 of them concerntrated too much on keeping up without realising how fast they were going. Concerntraing on the wrong things can be deadly just like high speed too.
Can you not change the record about group rides and people trying to keep up? We get your point/obsession.

EDIT - And the post above :facepalm: Same record, just the B side.

[Akzle]

And on the public roads there are a lot of people around that can fuck up - more importantly, there's an awful lot of people out there that can fuck YOU right up in the blink of an eye.

yes. Thats why you pay some fucken attention.
Enough attention, that by the time someone (or dog) fucks up you're well clear of them.

[Akzle]

a group ride especially on sports bikes high speed is necessary to keep up.

why are you trying to keep up faggot? Do you have a small cock and balls?

[FJRider]

The issue I bought up was they were focussed on keeping up with each other and if you have ever seen a group ride especially on sports bikes high speed is necessary to keep up.

If you were NOT there ... how would YOU know what the issue was regarding that particular incident. (un)lucky guess maybe .. ???

It it not necessary to keep up on "High speed" rides ... especially if your ability to do such is lacking. The desire to do so is often there with some though ....

Who you choose to ride with is your business ... but choose carefully .... one of them might kill you.


Or ... your stupidity might kill one of them.

[FJRider]

why are you trying to keep up faggot? Do you have a small cock and balls?

Judging by her profile .. No cock and No balls.

Is she your sister ... ????

[Akzle]

I think they have just been lucky rather than having any special skills.

and that is why, time after time, YOU are going to get fucked up and the men are going to 'get away with it'

'the more i learn (/upskill), the luckier i am' comes to mind

[awayatc]

As a cunt she has got no balls other then the ones she gets given.....

I.e no...... she has got no balls, nor any chance of getting any.....

[Akzle]

Riders still die on racetracks and if the roads were as smooth everyone would feel the urge to go faster would they not resulting in more not fewer deaths.

why would 'everyone' feel the 'urge to go faster'?

You still cant seem to comprehend that fast does not equal death or injury.
You stupid, stupid person.

[FJRider]

Riders still die on racetracks and if the roads were as smooth everyone would feel the urge to go faster would they not resulting in more not fewer deaths.

Many riders die in bed too ... a lot more there ... than on race tracks ... ;)

[awayatc]

Riders still die on racetracks and if the roads were as smooth everyone would feel the urge to go faster would they not resulting in more not fewer deaths.

If you were the last remaining female, I'd rather ride into a brickwall....anytime

[awayatc]

And on the public roads there are a lot of people around that can fuck up - more importantly, there's an awful lot of people out there that can fuck YOU right up in the blink of an eye.

Most of them drive Holdens with disco lights.........

[scumdog]

Most of them drive Holdens with disco lights.........

The Nissan Mistral that nearly fucked me up wasn't a Holden and it didn't have any disco lights - in fact it didn't even have indicators that worked...<_<

The old 'swing to the left without indicating, hesitate a second then swing right to do a U-turn also without indicating.

Amazing how quickly you can move an Ultra when the need arises...

[sidecar bob]

Riders still die on racetracks and if the roads were as smooth everyone would feel the urge to go faster would they not resulting in more not fewer deaths.

The maximum speed limit in Rarotonga is 50kmh & it has a population of approximately 20,000 yet more people fuck themselves up on bikes there in a week than in NZ.
Yep, slower must definitely be safer.

[Swoop]

the Popo have expert crash investigators, ... a statement of 'excessive speed likely involved' is not something they would say 'lightly'
Sadly, no. That is their "default statement" no matter what happened.


You just got lucky
Nope. Paid attention to the conditions.

I thought Cassina was female. Just assumed from reading his/her posts.
With the amount of bleeding that comes out of the cunt - obviously female.

The old 'swing to the left without indicating, hesitate a second then swing right to do a U-turn also without indicating.
You were avoiding a cop car then?
:shifty:

[TheDemonLord]

(m.v^2 kind of shit. Ask demon)

Oh well, since someone shined the Demon Signal.

E = 1/2(MV^2)

Where E is Kinetic Energy
M is the Mass of the object
and V is Velocity

And on a technical note Cassina - Speed has never killed anyone. Sudden deceleration exceeding 20G however has been known to be rather fatal.

The funniest thing is - I get the point you are trying so clumsily to make:

When people ride too fast for the conditions/their skill level - then should something small go wrong, there is less time to correct/react/not die then at slower speeds.

However the speed at which something is defined as too fast is relative to various factors, so simply stating that 'Speed is Bad m'kay' without defining what other factors may or may not be relevant would be like me saying that Panadol is bad because you can Overdose on it.

There are times when for me, it is safe to exceed the speed limit by a generous margin - due to all the factors being in my favour (nice weather, straight and wide well maintained road with no side streets/driveways to worry about, a barrier in the central median, light to no traffic etc.) and conversely there are times when it would be unsafe for me to ride AT the speed limit (shitty weather, unfamiliar roads with poor visibility and poorly maintaned, no road markings, plenty of driveways, medium traffic)

Without clarifying or even acknowledging that speed limits are ultimately an arbitrary number set by someone who most likely can't remember much in the way of physics and that above all else, it is the road conditions and rider skills that play the biggest part in determining what a safe speed is and what an unsafe speed.

Fast can be safe, Too fast is almost never safe - but what numbers we assign to these values varies between situations, riders, bikes, roads etc.

[Bikemad]

Oh well, since someone shined the Demon Signal.

E = 1/2(MV^2)

Where E is Kinetic Energy
M is the Mass of the object
and V is Velocity

And on a technical note Cassina - Speed has never killed anyone. Sudden deceleration exceeding 20G however has been known to be rather fatal.

The funniest thing is - I get the point you are trying so clumsily to make:

When people ride too fast for the conditions/their skill level - then should something small go wrong, there is less time to correct/react/not die then at slower speeds.

However the speed at which something is defined as too fast is relative to various factors, so simply stating that 'Speed is Bad m'kay' without defining what other factors may or may not be relevant would be like me saying that Panadol is bad because you can Overdose on it.

There are times when for me, it is safe to exceed the speed limit by a generous margin - due to all the factors being in my favour (nice weather, straight and wide well maintained road with no side streets/driveways to worry about, a barrier in the central median, light to no traffic etc.) and conversely there are times when it would be unsafe for me to ride AT the speed limit (shitty weather, unfamiliar roads with poor visibility and poorly maintaned, no road markings, plenty of driveways, medium traffic)

Without clarifying or even acknowledging that speed limits are ultimately an arbitrary number set by someone who most likely can't remember much in the way of physics and that above all else, it is the road conditions and rider skills that play the biggest part in determining what a safe speed is and what an unsafe speed.

Fast can be safe, Too fast is almost never safe - but what numbers we assign to these values varies between situations, riders, bikes, roads etc.

sorry i was having trouble keeping up and crashed and burned......could you repeat that last bit.......

[TheDemonLord]

sorry i was having trouble keeping up and crashed and burned......could you repeat that last bit.......

You see, its because you were posting in a group thread and felt pressured to keep up. If you post in your own thread then you won't feel the need to post outside your abilities. :laugh:

[Swivel]

Very sad, no parent should be burying their children. let this be a lesson for us to take more care especially with the summer season upon us.

[GrayWolf]

Well said Brett. Bunch of dam key board no name hero's that there own shit does not stink

well go look in a mirror then matey. I havent seen anyone here saying their shit dont stink, or, that they never did stupid shit. fuck, I did, when I learned to ride it was, in the shop, buy your bike, put on looney plates, and ride off down the road... did i fall off? hell yes, did I throw it down the road going too fast round a few bends hell yes, did I go 'flat out' t around 150-155kph back then?? hell yes, What i DIDNT do, was go bloody jarrah in 30mph {UK} zones....

[Akzle]

The funniest thing is - I get the point you are trying so clumsily to make:
nono, his point is exactly the opposite: if he's incapable of managing it, it's unsafe for anyone else to do it:


simply stating that 'Speed is Bad m'kay' without defining what other factors may or may not be relevant


Panadol is bad because you can Overdose on it.
panadol IS bad. It's the only aniline analgesic allowed on the market any more (no pressure, huh big pharma) even well under the max daily dose (~2000mg) it does damage to your liver and kidneys. About 3x that (6k) is generally enough to make you very very unhappy. Or ded.

[Drew]

Shit this place is full of heroes. Bit hypocritical of me to point that out though, I was going over my posts from years ago and I was worse.

[onearmedbandit]

Or maybe a dog ran out and the rider lost control while trying to avoid the alien space ship that was parked in front of the white house. What the fuck would you know?

+1.

10 effing characters.

[5150]

but trust me, I have become a cunt many years ago......


Surely you are not a cunt. Cunts are useful.....;)

[Akzle]

Judging by some of the comment on here the "She'll be Right" attitude will continue because some think they are crash proof especially the guy who bragged about touring the North Is at licence losing
speeds. What a hero!!!!

she'll be right implies that you know something is dodgy but go with it anyway.

There is absolutely nothing dodgy about exceeding the posted speed limit, by a capable horse pilot, on a capable horse.

[onearmedbandit]

Judging by some of the comment on here the "She'll be Right" attitude will continue because some think they are crash proof especially the guy who bragged about touring the North Is at licence losing
speeds. What a hero!!!!

You and assumptions are very close acquaintances. And that isn't an 'assumption', rather an observation.

[nodrog]

The issue I bought up was they were focussed on keeping up with each other and if you have ever seen a group ride especially on sports bikes high speed is necessary to keep up.

I think you are a bit retarded.

[nodrog]

Surely you are not a cunt. Cunts are useful.....;)

Not when they are that big.

[Swoop]

...some think they are crash proof especially the guy who bragged about touring the North Is at licence losing speeds. What a hero!!!!
I wasn't bragging, just stating simple facts. Time, place, road conditions were rather important.


You and assumptions are very close acquaintances. And that isn't an 'assumption', rather an observation.
She's good at entertaining us with "opinions" too.

[onearmedbandit]

And another Simple Fact you will be either die or loose your licence. Have you never head that people can get all 3 of those things wrong but you never will eh sport?

That's actually not a fact, that's an opinion.

[MarkH]

But generally speaking the faster you go the less safe the speed is as stopping distances become longer if shit happens. Sure people die under the speed limit but the chances are still less due to having more time to stop if you have any time at all.

Yes, but you can't get from A to B without some speed.
How much speed is OK? Obviously you need enough to get you to your destination in a timely manner, but not so much that the risk of crashing rises to unacceptable levels.
The trick is to give due consideration to the conditions and moderate your speed appropriately - clearly the subject of this thread came to grief which suggests that he was most likely travelling too fast for the conditions, that doesn't mean that it isn't possible to ride fast in different conditions while keeping the risk of misfortune low.

[Drew]

Hands up everyone who has dropped a bike, and been the only vehicle, person, or animal involved.

Right. Everyone with their fucken hand up, has gone too fast for the conditions. Those who expected to crash, lower your hand.

Right. Now everyone with their hand up can attest that thinking you are safe is easy enough to get wrong.

So fuck up, I'll bet dinner and a movie that not fucken one of you is capable of always being right about what is safe.

For the sake of cock measuring, typing a bunch of absolute bulshit on here is fucken futile.

You. Dumb. Cunts!

[nodrog]

Hands up everyone who has dropped a bike, and been the only vehicle, person, or animal involved.

Right. Everyone with their fucken hand up, has gone too fast for the conditions. Those who expected to crash, lower your hand.

Right. Now everyone with their hand up can attest that thinking you are safe is easy enough to get wrong.

So fuck up, I'll bet dinner and a movie that not fucken one of you is capable of always being right about what is safe.

For the sake of cock measuring, typing a bunch of absolute bulshit on here is fucken futile.

You. Dumb. Cunts!

there was a ride, I took the safest option and stayed on the couch, I win.

What's for dinner?

[Drew]

there was a ride, I took the safest option and stayed on the couch, I win.

What's for dinner?

Schnitzel for us. Come over.

[nodrog]

Schnitzel for us. Come over.

choice! I may be late, just chuck mine in the warmer drawer.

[5150]

Hands up everyone who has dropped a bike, and been the only vehicle, person, or animal involved.

Right. Everyone with their fucken hand up, has gone too fast for the conditions.

I don't think so. I was stationary at the time.....

And before you all give me shit. I was at a gas station, it was wet, and I parked on someones diesel spill. So, shut up fuckers....

[Drew]

I don't think so. I was stationary at the time.....

And before you all give me shit. I was at a gas station, it was wet, and I parked on someones diesel spill. So, shut up fuckers....
And that's the only time you've dropped a bike? I call bullshit.

[Swoop]

And another Simple Fact you will be either die or loose your licence.
My licence is sufficiently tight that I have never lost it.
I have also not "been die", either.

Please go back to your colouring in.

[Crasherfromwayback]

What has happend in the past gives no certainty about your future did you know?

From the moment we're born we're on course to die you docile twat. May as well have some fun whilst we're here.

[skippa1]

From the moment we're born we're on course to die you docile twat. May as well have some fun whilst we're here.
Kin oath!

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[5150]

And that's the only time you've dropped a bike? I call bullshit.

Couple of times my adv bike on the wet or greasy track. On the road I had 2 crashes. One I took off at the intersection on my old RGV, turned right and rear span up and spat me off. (yess my own stupid mistake). The seccond misjudged a 30km corner on my old 1100 and ended up in someone front yard eating dirt. Again, my own stupidity. Other then that no major brain fades (touch wood)

[Swoop]

What has happend in the past gives no certainty about your future did you know?
Do you own a crystal ball?

Hopefully you will learn to ride without those training wheels on your pushbike.

[Banditbandit]

Exactly , I feel no sympathy for him , his friends & family are now going through hell because of his stupidity.
Yes in the past I have done dumb shit , I learned before I got the ultimate lesson.

You were lucky then ...


caricature?? Christ Shaun, we have all broken the speed limit, but in excess of 100kph in a built up area??

yeah - I've gone past 100mph in a 30mph zone back in the 70s ... that's more than 160 klicks in a 50 klick zone for you kiddies ...

I'm still here .. (and before you all try to shoot me with your keyboards - Does It Look Like I Give A Fuck)

[EJK]

Since we are on the bandwagon, have a load of this :sherlock:

http://www.stuff.co.nz/motoring/news/72954992/footage-shows-last-minutes-of-drugfuelled-fatal-car-crash

[Akzle]

Since we are on the bandwagon, have a load of this :sherlock:

http://www.stuff.co.nz/motoring/news/72954992/footage-shows-last-minutes-of-drugfuelled-fatal-car-crash

that poor young man! What a tragedy! How sad for his friends and family! He didnt deserve to go so young! The brightest lights burn fastest! Rip, angel in heaven, god has called you home!

Me, i call you a homo.

[Akzle]

lmfao. Just read it now. They crasehed into a church. Oh the fuken irony. Save on funeral costs i guess. Just dig a hole and roll em in :laugh:

i hear that mother has a swag of sympathy: "but I blame them both for the decisions they made
on this night."

[Maha]

Since we are on the bandwagon, have a load of this :sherlock:

http://www.stuff.co.nz/motoring/news/72954992/footage-shows-last-minutes-of-drugfuelled-fatal-car-crash

''If all this stops one person from making the same mistake, then some good has come from showing this video''

The only person that would not make this same mistake, is the person who survived such a crash. But in this case, neither did.
Once someone is drugged up or pissed and gets behind a wheel, nothing else matters.

[Banditbandit]

lmfao. Just read it now. They crasehed into a church. Oh the fuken irony. Save on funeral costs i guess. Just dig a hole and roll em in :laugh:


A timely intervention by the almighty perchance?

[Akzle]

Once someone is drugged up or pissed and gets behind a wheel, nothing else matters.

... Except their ability to safely operate that wheel while drugged up or pissed...

[TheDemonLord]

lmfao. Just read it now. They crasehed into a church. Oh the fuken irony. Save on funeral costs i guess. Just dig a hole and roll em in :laugh:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFlctCuUV28

[scumdog]

... Except their ability to safely operate that wheel while drugged up or pissed...

Well only to THEM of course!

[Swoop]

that poor young man! What a tragedy! How sad for his friends and family! He didnt deserve to be on such a wankfest of a website called "stuff"
Fixed it for ya!

Also, what a knob. Petrol tank was almost empty.

[Akzle]

Well only to THEM of course!

well, no, in terms like "number of kilometers travelled without fucking up anyones day". Or, y'know. SAFETY and shit.

[Brett]

I don't think so. I was stationary at the time.....

And before you all give me shit. I was at a gas station, it was wet, and I parked on someones diesel spill. So, shut up fuckers....


I managed a 30kph highside in the driveway. Beat that for embarassing.

[Brett]

What has happend in the past gives no certainty about your future did you know?

Honestly...you really crack me up sometimes. Thanks for the laughs.

[Gremlin]

I managed a 30kph highside in the driveway. Beat that for embarassing.
30-40kph highside in front of a cop, at the front of a cycle race, and then the entire race convoy went past... (about 100 cyclists and 0.5-1km of support vehicles). Oh, and traction control was fully enabled on the BMW at the time.

I've also done the servo drop. Came into gas station at the front of a group of bikes... pulled up to a pump. Put foot down... nope, put foot out to side, WTF, oh shit, down I go. :facepalm: Would have preferred for the ground to swallow me up...

Oh, I've also failed to u-turn in the driveway doing about 5kph (full lock) and dropped it. So disgusted with myself I left it there while I stomped inside and took my gear off...

[Brett]

30-40kph highside in front of a cop, at the front of a cycle race, and then the entire race convoy went past... (about 100 cyclists and 0.5-1km of support vehicles). Oh, and traction control was fully enabled on the BMW at the time.

I've also done the servo drop. Came into gas station at the front of a group of bikes... pulled up to a pump. Put foot down... nope, put foot out to side, WTF, oh shit, down I go. :facepalm: Would have preferred for the ground to swallow me up...

Oh, I've also failed to u-turn in the driveway doing about 5kph (full lock) and dropped it. So disgusted with myself I left it there while I stomped inside and took my gear off...

Haha...you can take the cake mate. That is worse than the ride where i rode into the ditch at 20kph looking behind me for Gareth only for everyone to ride past me lying embarrassed on the side of the road.

[Big Dog]

I managed a 30kph highside in the driveway. Beat that for embarassing.
I got passed by a rabbit in a corner on one of my first group rides.

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[Kickaha]

I managed a 30kph highside in the driveway. Beat that for embarassing.

1988, 10-15kmh lowside in front of Chch central police station, leaving the police station, doing a u turn with the steering lock on

[awa355]

well, no, in terms like "number of kilometers travelled without fucking up anyones day". Or, y'know. SAFETY and shit.

Quotes;

Never been in an accident in my life :rolleyes: Caused a few tho :eek5:

Haven't been in an accident, I couldn't walk away from :2thumbsup

[Drew]

I managed a 30kph highside in the driveway. Beat that for embarassing.

Hahahaha, now the thread is getting interesting.

I did a rolling burnout past some friends after we'd been out for dinner. Totally fucked it up and went down face first.

Another time I totalled the same bike doing wheelies in front of a couple hundred people.

[PrincessBandit]

lmfao. Just read it now. They crasehed into a church. Oh the fuken irony. Save on funeral costs i guess. Just dig a hole and roll em in :laugh:

i hear that mother has a swag of sympathy: "but I blame them both for the decisions they made
on this night."

Well what did you expect her to say? That it was all someone elses fault that her kid and mate totalled themselves?

Creepiest bit for me was the fact that the phone kept recording the rest of life passing them by as it lay by their corpses.

[Paul in NZ]

After the AJS my second bike was a ’55 Speed Twin which seemed like a high speed buzz box. Finished in the best spray can black paint that my milk round money could buy it was a teenage dream machine. Heck, on a wet night and under a sodium street lamp and from the other side of the street some of the chrome even sparkled!! (for a given value of sparkle) At last, with the right sound and a dose of brave pills I could (if I had remembered to recharge the battery) hold my head up in town on a Friday night.

One memorable night I had a lesser being on the pillion (Ariel Colt owner) and we were sitting on a side street awaiting a chance to turn right into Columbo Street. (the main drag in Christchurch).

Suddenly a gap appeared and as the last car in the line moved past, we popped the clutch, pulled across the street, leaned (far more than required) to the right and opened the throttle. The sweet sound of a Triumph twin accelerating hard in a lower gear ripped through the thrum of the traffic and naturally we glanced into the shop window to check that we looked suitably menacing hunched over the little beastie.

However in the shop window there was something else to look at as well as the 2 vinyl clad cowboys. There, scant yards (it was pre metric) in front, the faint glow of a Morris Minors brake light. Oh OH!! Our heads snapped front and centre and sure enough the last car in the line had spotted a potential carpark and had thrown out the anchor. We were well lent over and had the throttle pinned in 1st. Oh deary me!!

Now, pre unit (1950’s) SLS half hub Triumph brakes are not known for provoking stoppies or shredding tread from tyres but with little else in the way of options I hit the brakes, hit the Morris and hit the pavement all about the same time. Oh GREAT! Friday night, late night shopping, 2 fragile teen egos laying under a bike while someone’s grey haired old granny comes back to ask. “Sorry deary, Are you boys alright or should I call an ambulance?” (sigh)

We were fine, she was fine, the car was fine and the bike was not damaged (some of the scratched and dented bits were a little more scratched and dented but what the heck) so we wiggled out from under the Speedtwin and slunk off into the night to the sniggers of the bystanders we had been so sure of impressing a moment before. Battered bruised and humiliated. Bugger!

[nudemetalz]

As a 15 year old school boy, I arranged to meet up with my girlfriend and her friends outside MaxiMart in ChCh (back in 1985).
Soooo,..ripping up full speed on the XL100S (well, about 40 km/h) in the carpark, lock the rear brake up to do an awesome slide up to her....and...highside it right in front of her.
Pick myself up and the bike also. Straighten the bars and decide to vacate the scene promptly due to extreme embarrassment and the girls laughing at me.
So, decide to get some dignity back and pull a mono on my exit. So 9000rpm, drop the clutch, front end goes up,...all good and then down comes the wheel and down I go again onto the carpark pavement not more than 20m away from them....errr...I left the sidestand down !!!
Decide enough is enough and my school uniform is start to look shredded so off I go home slowly.

[Brett]

This thread has definitely taken a turn for the better. Better work stories :)

[Paul in NZ]

I abandoned the chopper life (once the factories started making them the thrill left me) and secured a crusty old 750cc Norton Atlas! After the second rebuild it became a café racer and sported clip-on’s, rear sets, swept back headers, Dunstall Megga’s, a Laverda SFC humpy seat, 12.5 : 1 pistons, a huge cam and carbs so big you could roll a soccer ball through em! I sprayed it all in Mk2 Jaguar maroon with a black panel down the top. Cor! It was a real café racer and a stunner! I was years ahead of my time in the whole Rocker revival thing! Surely the chicks would dig this? (what was I thinking with the single seat ffs)

It was this thought that was bubbling in my mind one day as I strode across the street to the waiting beast. Open faced (matt black naturally) helmet at a jaunty angle, Stadium MkVIII goggles on top, tugging on my skin tight leather gloves, huge boots swinging manfully with white submariner socks tucked over the top and mum’s best white silk scarf showing from my black leather bomber jacket. An asphalt love god if ever there was!

The mighty Norton was standing waiting on the main stand facing down the street and into town! She looked like a 100mph standing still and as I reached her I looked up to see two pretty young things looking hungrily at the bike from the window of the dairy where they worked. Now, quite what effect I was having up until then I will never know but I was sure that blasting off at warp factor 10 in a wall of noise would have them panting for it! Exactly what that meant I was not quite sure other than it was probably a good thing. Though, now looking back, leaving the scene quickly was not exactly going to secure me a date was it?

I caught their eye, winked and nonchalantly threw a steely thigh across the seat of the slinky Norton. Normally this was good thing BUT today there was a rather steep camber on the road and I had mounted from the high side. (oops) I never found my footing on the other side and as I slid off into the gutter pulling the Norton on top of me all I could think was “Oh Bugger!” as I lay in the gutter with 400lb of best british steel on top of me! After a few minutes I painfully weaseled out from under the bike and not needing any confirmation that the not very muted laughter coming from the shop was directed at me I push started the now flooded beast and rode slowly off down the road! Defeated (and deflated) again!

[Shaun Harris]

I abandoned the chopper life (once the factories started making them the thrill left me) and secured a crusty old 750cc Norton Atlas! After the second rebuild it became a café racer and sported clip-on’s, rear sets, swept back headers, Dunstall Megga’s, a Laverda SFC humpy seat, 12.5 : 1 pistons, a huge cam and carbs so big you could roll a soccer ball through em! I sprayed it all in Mk2 Jaguar maroon with a black panel down the top. Cor! It was a real café racer and a stunner! I was years ahead of my time in the whole Rocker revival thing! Surely the chicks would dig this? (what was I thinking with the single seat ffs)

It was this thought that was bubbling in my mind one day as I strode across the street to the waiting beast. Open faced (matt black naturally) helmet at a jaunty angle, Stadium MkVIII goggles on top, tugging on my skin tight leather gloves, huge boots swinging manfully with white submariner socks tucked over the top and mum’s best white silk scarf showing from my black leather bomber jacket. An asphalt love god if ever there was!

The mighty Norton was standing waiting on the main stand facing down the street and into town! She looked like a 100mph standing still and as I reached her I looked up to see two pretty young things looking hungrily at the bike from the window of the dairy where they worked. Now, quite what effect I was having up until then I will never know but I was sure that blasting off at warp factor 10 in a wall of noise would have them panting for it! Exactly what that meant I was not quite sure other than it was probably a good thing. Though, now looking back, leaving the scene quickly was not exactly going to secure me a date was it?

I caught their eye, winked and nonchalantly threw a steely thigh across the seat of the slinky Norton. Normally this was good thing BUT today there was a rather steep camber on the road and I had mounted from the high side. (oops) I never found my footing on the other side and as I slid off into the gutter pulling the Norton on top of me all I could think was “Oh Bugger!” as I lay in the gutter with 400lb of best british steel on top of me! After a few minutes I painfully weaseled out from under the bike and not needing any confirmation that the not very muted laughter coming from the shop was directed at me I push started the now flooded beast and rode slowly off down the road! Defeated (and deflated) again!



Haha Bummer, thanks for sharing that

[Shaun Harris]

Most embarrassing road riding accident I have ever had was 32 years ago in central Auckland at approx 3-30 pm, I was a bike courier then for Road Runner I think it was, and yep, I was a loony. Anyway, coming to the end of peaking out looney riding day, I pulled up at a set or red lights, and simply forgot to put my foot down, lol, over she went Trev. That is the most embarrassing, but there were many more along the way, to taking it to the track instead, I wanted to live lol

[Conquiztador]

At 14 I had yet to get my first decent bike. (Had a Bantam at home but she never wanted to run when I wanted her to). So I was using a 50cc Oegland moped to get to and from school. I had done some modifications the day before and run out of time to get the brakes back together. But I took it slow to school (5Km's away) and all well.

On way home the school bus passed me and a bunch of school mates, and a girl I liked too much, was looking out the backwindow and laughing. I forgot re the non-working brakes and went hunting for the bus. With higher compression, shorter pipe, bigger carbi, ported cylinder and changed gearing I soon had her up to the max 80Km/h (while lying low on the tank) and caught the bus (and the eyes of the young lady)... That was the moment the bus stopped for a roadwork. Without brakes my only option was to lay the screaming moped on to her side and slide under the bus... The handlebars caught on to the bus's rear bumper stopping me from hitting the rear axle.

As the bus took off I was free to stand up and get back on the moped. I refused to look up at the faces in the backwindow of the bus. Next day at school everyone knew about how the bus defeated me. And that girl... I think she decided that she deserved better than an idiot who throws him self under a bus.

Edit: I also had managed to scrape my knee, my hand, elbow and hurt my other hand as the handlebar got caught by the bumper. As a result I was now walking with a limp. Might have been the moment I decided not to try and impress females.