Your Bike Your Rules

[Maha]

First question is rhetorical...

Will there ever be a time when the countless opinion's on how to conduct yourself while riding your bike, from people on this site that you don’t know, cease?

Why is it, that an opinion from someone you’ve never met, and most likely won’t ever, be viewed as ‘gospel’ in the mind of the opinion giver?

Is it not just as easy, as getting your bike out when you want to, riding how you want to, and all day if you want to, with whoever you want to ride with, and returning home knowing you’ve had a massive day and can’t wait to do it all again?

[TheDemonLord]

Why is it, that an opinion from someone you’ve never met, and most likely won’t ever, be viewed as ‘gospel’ in the mind of the opinion giver?

Well it depends on the person giving the opionion doesn't it?

If the person is a Judge, then there there is a good chance it will be viewed as gospel
If it was Mr Rossi, then it would be viewed as gospel based on the results he has achieved.

For everyone else - if you could solve that riddle, then maybe the world would be slightly less fucked than it currently is.

[Tazz]

Is it not just as easy, as getting your bike out when you want to, riding how you want to, and all day if you want to, with whoever you want to ride with, and returning home knowing you’ve had a massive day and can’t wait to do it all again?

Only in your opinion...:laugh:

[Robbo]

As has often been stated "Opinions are like Arseholes" everyone has one but most are just full of shit.
I ignore them and just concentrate on my own when riding. With nearly fifty years of incident free riding
i consider i'm doing something right. I won't go near group rides as they usually have a few idiots amongst
them and prefer to ride solo or with a couple of mates whom i trust.
I have always arrived home safely and look foward to my next ride.
And "No" i don't ride like a nana and love speed.:yes:

[Maha]

As has often been stated "Opinions are like Arseholes" everyone has one but most are just full of shit.
I ignore them and just concentrate on my own when riding. With nearly fifty years of incident free riding
i consider i'm doing something right. I won't go near group rides as they usually have a few idiots amongst
them and prefer to ride solo or with a couple of mates whom i trust.
I have always arrived home safely and look forward to my next ride.
And "No" i don't ride like a nana and love speed.:yes:

Like the title say Rob, your bike your rules. And that's all that matters really.
Riders have their way of doing things, it's right for them, not always right for those they seem to be preaching to, because... lets face it, everyone is individual, and that is very evident when it comes to riding... YOUR Bike.

[Big Dog]

I think it is a wise man whose mind is open to new ideas but smart enough to show the bad idea's the door.

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[R650R]

Is it not just as easy, as getting your bike out when you want to, riding how you want to, and all day if you want to, with whoever you want to ride with, and returning home knowing you’ve had a massive day and can’t wait to do it all again?

Amen.

FTI and FTW, too many people worry about others thoughts. As long as someone is not being an arsehole (eg gopro themselves giving innocent car drivers the finger) then yes they should ride as fast or slow as they like.
But as a greater community we are always under threat so doing stupid dumb stuff and going silly fast is best doen without an audience or a public post ride debrief on the internet....
There are 7 billion people on this planet, its perfectly natural that some of them will disagree with you, just file them under junkmail. :)

[EJK]

First question is rhetorical...

Will there ever be a time when the countless opinion's on how to conduct yourself while riding your bike, from people on this site that you don’t know, cease?

Why is it, that an opinion from someone you’ve never met, and most likely won’t ever, be viewed as ‘gospel’ in the mind of the opinion giver?

Is it not just as easy, as getting your bike out when you want to, riding how you want to, and all day if you want to, with whoever you want to ride with, and returning home knowing you’ve had a massive day and can’t wait to do it all again?

Did someone call your Tiger SUV of road bikes? Dual purpose capable bike that never seen off-road. :lol:

[Maha]

I think it is a wise man whose mind is open to new ideas but smart enough to show the bad idea's the door.

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True, but some are not matured enough to decipher fact from fiction from some of the advice given on here.

ie: Young chap, been riding four months, had to embarrassingly pick his broken bike up off the road 200 mts after leaving a lunch stop.
When asked how this happened, he had read on KB that dragging the front brakes and doing that unusual slalom bullshit, was the best way to warm things up.

[Laava]

Did someone call your Tiger SUV of road bikes? Dual purpose capable bike that never seen off-road. :lol:

Molesworth!!!!!
Does that count? Surely the fords...
btw, Maha, you need to take Mom thru there. It is pretty awesome.

[EJK]

Some are not matured enough to decipher fact from fiction from some of the advice given on here.

ie: Young chap, been riding four months, had to embarrassingly pick his broken bike up off the road 200 mts after leaving a lunch stop.
When asked how this happened, he had read on KB that dragging the front brakes and doing that unusual slalom bullshit, was the best way to warm things up.

Must have received advices from KiwiBiker that chap.

[Maha]

Must have received advices from KiwiBiker that chap.

He did, and no, the Tiger hasn't been likened to an SUV unless that stands for Stunning Ultimate Vehicle. tsssssssssssssssssssh :rockon:

[Big Dog]

Some are not matured enough to decipher fact from fiction from some of the advice given on here.

ie: Young chap, been riding four months, had to embarrassingly pick his broken bike up off the road 200 mts after leaving a lunch stop.
When asked how this happened, he had read on KB that dragging the front brakes and doing that unusual slalom bullshit, was the best way to warm things up.
Yep. Not all advice is good advice. But then neither is not listening to the opinions of others ever again.
one does need to be critical of the advice before applying it.

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[george formby]

Yep. Not all advice is good advice. But then neither is not listening to the opinions of others ever again.
one does need to be critical of the advice before applying it.

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Yeah. All advice is good advice in one sense. If you use your noggin it does not take long to realise if you have a learned a good thing or a bad thing. And learning is good.
Poor fulla who binned his bike after lunch should have been instantly skeptical of flicking his bike about with the front brake on.

I like a level playing field when out for a run so the rules are simple. Don't cross the centre line and obey the speed limit.. Fits all sizes.

If you want to unleash the beast, go for it. I've never been impressed by a wrist.

[bogan]

This thread needs a poll.

The second question (first answerable one) doesn't make sense because it refers to judgement values from two differing viewpoints.

The last question is predicated on the assumption that 'your bike' is safe under 'your rules', again, possibly not a judgement value shared by both viewpoints referred to.

[Maha]

The last question is predicated on the assumption that 'your bike' is safe under 'your rules', again, possibly not a judgement value shared by both viewpoints referred to.

You added those words, so that's your assumption.
Your Bike You Rules = who the hell has the conceited right to tell you how to ride it? especially when, in all probability, they have no knowledge of your riding conduct in the first place? When someone offers up an opinion (general or otherwise) on individual riding style/skill level or what ever, they are doing so based on their own level of style/skill.......and who's to say that's a good thing?

[bogan]

You added those words, so that's your assumption.
Your Bike You Rules = who the hell has the conceited right to tell you how to ride it? especially when, in all probability, they have no knowledge of your riding conduct in the first place? When someone offers up an opinion (general or otherwise) on individual riding style/skill level or what ever, they are doing so based on their own level of style/skill.......and who's to say that's a good thing?

It was implicit in the "riding how you want to, and all day if you want to, with whoever you want to ride with, and returning home" bit though.

Free speech is still a right as far as I'm aware, so everybody!

Who is to say it isn't? Be fucked if I rode with the mindset that my way is right and nobody can teach me shit; and if my little bro started riding that way I'd be looking to take his keys off him.

[AllanB]

You do decide how you ride. You are however also regulated by the countrys rules and associated penalties if caught.

Enjoy.

[TheDemonLord]

Who is to say it isn't? Be fucked if I rode with the mindset that my way is right and nobody can teach me shit

Cassina?!?

[Katman]

When people riding like fuckwits adversely impacts on the motorcycling liberties of the rest of us, I believe we have every right to criticise that riding.

[TheDemonLord]

When people riding like fuckwits adversely impacts on the motorcycling liberties of the rest of us, I believe we have every right to criticise that riding.

Holy Fuck!

I agree with Katman on something whole heartedly!!!

[bogan]

Cassina?!?

Shudders

But I do believe you have found this thread's slam-dunk rebuttal :yes:

[AllanB]

When people riding like fuckwits adversely impacts on the motorcycling liberties of the rest of us, I believe we have every right to criticise that riding.

Fair point K-man.

[Shaun Harris]

When people riding like fuckwits adversely impacts on the motorcycling liberties of the rest of us, I believe we have every right to criticise that riding.



Agreed man

[Maha]

When people riding like fuckwits adversely impacts on the motorcycling liberties of the rest of us, I believe we have every right to criticise that riding.

Unfortunately, apart from yourself, many on here opt to do so AFTER the fact.

[Shaun Harris]

Unfortunately, apart from yourself, many on here opt to do so AFTER the fact.


Riders that tail gate cars
Riders that ride in pacts
Riders that pass because they can with out thinking they will scare the car driver
Riders that blast pass cars very close at great speed with an after market exhaust


And that is just 4 things, that make ALL bikers Ass Hats as far as the average car driver thinks. It is this kind of rider/s that gets you all a really bad name. And YES, 30 years ago, I was one of these kind of riders also sorry to say.

Yep, we all have the write to have fun and enjoy our lives, but so do the car drivers who do not understand the ability of a motor cycle nor the joy of riding one.

[Katman]

But I do believe you have found this thread's slam-dunk rebuttal :yes:

Well, it beats your usual "I saw an episode of Mythbusters once....."

[bogan]

Well, it beats your usual "I saw an episode of Mythbusters once....."

Well one day you might learn to read properly and thus understand the journal articles and other text I post; but I guess in the meantime if moving pictures is all you can cope with, the scientific method of mythbusters still trumps your 'bloke on youtube which said what I wanted to hear' :yawn:

[Katman]

Yep, compelling evidence.

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[Maha]

Riders that tail gate cars
Riders that ride in pacts
Riders that pass because they can with out thinking they will scare the car driver
Riders that blast pass cars very close at great speed with an after market exhaust


And that is just 4 things, that make ALL bikers Ass Hats as far as the average car driver thinks. It is this kind of rider/s that gets you all a really bad name. And YES, 30 years ago, I was one of these kind of riders also sorry to say.

Yep, we all have the write to have fun and enjoy our lives, but so do the car drivers who do not understand the ability of a motor cycle nor the joy of riding one.

In all honesty Shaun, we can all probably come up with occasions where we disapprove of certain riders conduct on the road...
But, the noting of and saying something on a forum such as this one, has the same effect as clicking Yes or No on an online poll, it satisfy's you only, and you feel you have done your part. I would argue that very few (if any) would actually speak face to face to another biker who they deem to be showing disrespect for them self and others on the road.
It must be a more ''safer'' option to speak out with relative anonymity.

[Shaun Harris]

Are you 2 sure you are not suffering from head injuries. You both can sound so much like I was there for a long time, take a dam chill pill boys

[Metastable]

The vast majority of the posts are opinions. It is impossible to agree with all of them. Most of the folks here are "big boys" or "big girls" and are going to ride how they see fit. Something written on the internet shouldn't handcuff them into riding in a different manner.

At the end of the day, if there were no opinions, KB wouldn't exist. You are going to get the person that thinks knee down on a twisty road with good visibility and conditions to be an @$$, similarly you are going to get the guy who thinks that riding through corners so slowly that you are doing 50 below the speed is moronic.

There is some very good information on this site. Some of it is plain fact... i.e. if you hang off more for a given corner and a given speed the bike will lean less. That's physics not an opinion. There are different ideas on how to ride and why to ride that way. I think that is good. It is good to hear different perspectives. Heck different types of bikes you ride differently, so there is even more variation. You don't ride a trail bike in the woods, the same way you ride a sportbike at the track.

Plus, I have seen professional opinions from riding instructors on leading UK publications aka BIKE for one, that contradict everything I have learned at top level track riding schools. In both cases, those are opinions..... good to listen to them, then sort things out for yourself (personally I think some of the stuff written on BIKE is wrong.... that's my opinion).

Your bike - ride it your way.... YES!..... however this day in age with all the social media etc out there, keep in mind there will be more opinions about your riding style then ever before.... however the nice thing about the digital age is that if you want to read up on different opinions on riding techniques etc.... that information is also available.

Positives and Negatives.

[bogan]

But, the noting of and saying something on a forum such as this one, has the same effect as clicking Yes or No on an online poll, it satisfy's you only, and you feel you have done your part.

So, how does your noting and saying something about the notion of users noted notes and said sayings fit into this?

[Gremlin]

You don't know what you don't know. Sounds simple but there is a lot of truth in it. Equally, just because you've been riding for years doesn't mean you know everything (hell, you could have been doing the same thing wrong every year).

Like all advice, you need to qualify it. Some is plain wrong, some has elements of truth, some is very good. Part of experience is also being able to distinguish between those levels of advice. As Metastable has commented on, there will be conflicting advice and you'll need to resolve the differences (and equally I think he and I have had some debates). Track based advice will very likely differ to road based advice as there are different aims, yet will compliment each other in some ways.

The biggest thing however, is being in a receptive frame to learning and improving your riding skills. Very few know it all and everyone is human.

Motorcycling is dangerous, so why not stack the cards in your favour?

[husaberg]

This thread needs a poll.

The second question (first answerable one) doesn't make sense because it refers to judgement values from two differing viewpoints.

The last question is predicated on the assumption that 'your bike' is safe under 'your rules', again, possibly not a judgement value shared by both viewpoints referred to.

It should also be about a subject that fires up a like minded lunatic fringe frequent in disproportional numbers thereby further swaying the results in the desired favour.

[Maha]

So, how does your noting and saying something about the notion of users noted notes and said sayings fit into this?

My Notes My Rules....please keep up.

[bogan]

My Notes My Rules....please keep up.

Considering the instancy I pegged this as another one of your 'high horse of hypocrisy' rantings; I think I'm keeping up quite well...

[willytheekid]

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...sorry...there are "rules"??:confused: (Apart from "tune it","thrash it", "wash n repeat!"...so Im missin some eh ;))