View Full Version : Wondering what I could expect to get if I sold my 1991 Yamaha Zeal 250
OctagonalFerret
21st October 2015, 16:21
I think the term is "gauging interest"?
I'm a learner motorcyclist considering upgrading to a learner legal 400 or higher, in doing so, I'd need to sell my Zeal.
The bike has WoF and Rego is valid, I've been riding it for 3 months with no major issues.
I don't know much about motorcycle maintenance or anything, so apologies in advance if I don't go into enough detail in the following issues:
It's not very tidy, had been down on the road before I bought it. Exhaust looks terrible, stator cover had a hole in it, but replaced it.
Has a constant fuel smell I can't find the source of, burns through fuel pretty quick. Full tank only lasts about 180km.
Tires are in decent condition, front brake pads were replaced when I started riding, back ones should still last a while.
Back brake has barely any power, think it has some air in it. I needed to bleed it when I got it, and was kinda lazy and kinda did the minimum I could do to pass the WoF (I should probably not own a motorbike).
One of the previous owners of the gas tank it has on it looks like they tried to remove the "Zeal" writing, it looks terrible.
Sometimes it loses some power for no reason, and nobody can figure out why. Hasn't been that much of a problem, in my opinion.
Headlight is for a different bike, fits decent enough.
Tachometer doesn't work, worked when I got it but just kinda stopped working at some point. Also has a hole in the cover.
Electronics look like a child unplugged everything and had a play round.
Tape covering hole in the Tachometer and a small gap where the headlight connects. Despite my Dad's protests that "Motorbikes are made to handle water, blahblahblah".
Don't know anything about it's history, apart from the fact that it sat around at my uncle's place for 2 years before I bought it.
Back brake is from a different bike model, original was seized to hell and my dad stuffed one of the pistons trying to fix it :/. Fits perfectly, think it's from the Zeal's sister bike, the FZR 250.
Brake disc is a little warped. Have a replacement that I got preowned, looks to be in good condition (No promises)
Includes an extra stator and the bit in the stator cover that has a wire coming out. I bought a stator cover for cheap and the guy included them as well...
No. plate is A5LAJ if you wish to look up any rego information.
Odo reads 67404.
Pictures: (New to this forum, so apologies if they're uploaded incorrectly)
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While also on the subject, I'm looking for recommendations on 400cc or higher LAMS approved bikes I could look into. Prefer naked bikes, anything in black, and am not fused with physical condition.
Akzle
21st October 2015, 17:02
Wondering what I could expect to get if I sold my
1991 Yamaha Zeal 250?
Money. And fuckall of it.
Maybe herpes. Depedning who you sell it to and how.
OctagonalFerret
21st October 2015, 17:04
Wondering what I could expect to get if I sold my
1991 Yamaha Zeal 250?
Money. And fuckall of it.
Maybe herpes. Depedning who you sell it to and how.
Very descriptive. Thanks, random rude person.
Good to see my first experience in these forums being a good one.
Akzle
21st October 2015, 17:15
Very descriptive. Thanks, random rude person.
Good to see my first experience in these forums being a good one.
maybe someone will give you a sweet trade on a big can of "htfu princess"
there's this new website, called trademe. Watch a few similar bikes in similar condition to get an idea of "market value"
or. List that shitpile for 1$ reserve.
WNJ
21st October 2015, 17:27
Wondering what I could expect to get if I sold my
1991 Yamaha Zeal 250?
Money. And fuckall of it.
Maybe herpes. Depedning who you sell it to and how.
Not even worthy of chips and $5 ?
OctagonalFerret
21st October 2015, 17:30
maybe someone will give you a sweet trade on a big can of "htfu princess"
there's this new website, called trademe. Watch a few similar bikes in similar condition to get an idea of "market value"
or. List that shitpile for 1$ reserve.
Am I a pretty princess? Hahaha.
Trademe you say? It is like eBay?
Similar bikes isn't easy to do, as I understand it, 4 cylinder 250's are rare. As they were only produced in Japan, iirc. Difficult to find stuff in similar condition also, as people generally leave out all the smaller problems and just claim it "runs" and is legal. I would rather be honest about the condition, and get what is appropriate.
OctagonalFerret
21st October 2015, 17:31
Not even worthy of chips and $5 ?
We talking fish 'n' chips or store bought chips?
Akzle
21st October 2015, 17:42
Similar bikes isn't easy to do, as I understand it, 4 cylinder 250's are rare.
rare as bro!!11!
Chuck some rim tape on it youll get 5grand.
OctagonalFerret
21st October 2015, 17:47
rare as bro!!11!
Chuck some rim tape on it youll get 5grand.
Ah yes, sarcasm. Nice. I may not know motorcycle value, but I know for a fact it won't be worth anywhere near that.
JimO
21st October 2015, 17:54
don worry about axle he aint right int head
FJRider
21st October 2015, 18:01
I think the term is "gauging interest"?
The bike has WoF and Rego is valid, I've been riding it for 3 months with no major issues.
I don't know much about motorcycle maintenance or anything, so apologies in advance if I don't go into enough detail in the following issues:
It's not very tidy, had been down on the road before I bought it. Exhaust looks terrible, stator cover had a hole in it, but replaced it.
Has a constant fuel smell I can't find the source of, burns through fuel pretty quick. Full tank only lasts about 180km.
Tires are in decent condition, front brake pads were replaced when I started riding, back ones should still last a while.
Back brake has barely any power, think it has some air in it. I needed to bleed it when I got it, and was kinda lazy and kinda did the minimum I could do to pass the WoF (I should probably not own a motorbike).
An admitted lazy owner ... and you probably want money for it ... not looking good in this regard .... :no:
One of the previous owners of the gas tank it has on it looks like they tried to remove the "Zeal" writing, it looks terrible.
It's ALWAYS the PREVIOUS owner that did ... IT .. !!!!!!! :killingme
Sometimes it loses some power for no reason, and nobody can figure out why. Hasn't been that much of a problem, in my opinion.
Losing power for no reason is BULLSHIT ... You just haven't found the reason. And can't be fucked looking ... even if you knew where to look. (which you DON'T) :lol:
Trust me on this ... your opinion is of little concern (or value) to us ... :beer:
Headlight is for a different bike, fits decent enough.
Tachometer doesn't work, worked when I got it but just kinda stopped working at some point. Also has a hole in the cover.
Electronics look like a child unplugged everything and had a play round.
Tape covering hole in the Tachometer and a small gap where the headlight connects. Despite my Dad's protests that "Motorbikes are made to handle water, blahblahblah".
Don't know anything about it's history, apart from the fact that it sat around at my uncle's place for 2 years before I bought it.
Back brake is from a different bike model, original was seized to hell and my dad stuffed one of the pistons trying to fix it :/. Fits perfectly, think it's from the Zeal's sister bike, the FZR 250.
Brake disc is a little warped. Have a replacement that I got preowned, looks to be in good condition (No promises)
Includes an extra stator and the bit in the stator cover that has a wire coming out. I bought a stator cover for cheap and the guy included them as well...
Any bits Not broken ... ??? or not fucked enough that doesn't need replacing .. ???? :scratch:
No. plate is A5LAJ if you wish to look up any rego information.
Odo reads 67404.
I bet nobody will look it up. You've told us enough ... :rolleyes:
While also on the subject, I'm looking for recommendations on 400cc or higher LAMS approved bikes I could look into. Prefer naked bikes, anything in black, and am not fused with physical condition.
Contact us when you've sold this one ... or when you have money. State your budget when you DO ask. Until then ... few on this site will take you seriously ... But go for the chips offer ... and for him ... he was being polite. Although for being onsite only 10 minutes ... you were not to know that ... :laugh:
OctagonalFerret
21st October 2015, 18:09
[QUOTE=OctagonalFerret;1130914271]I think the term is "gauging interest"?
[QUOTE=OctagonalFerret;1130914271]I'm a learner motorcyclist considering upgrading to a learner legal 400 or higher, in doing so, I'd need to sell my Zeal.
[QUOTE=OctagonalFerret;1130914271]The bike has WoF and Rego is valid, I've been riding it for 3 months with no major issues.
[QUOTE=OctagonalFerret;1130914271]I don't know much about motorcycle maintenance or anything, so apologies in advance if I don't go into enough detail in the following issues:
[QUOTE=OctagonalFerret;1130914271]It's not very tidy, had been down on the road before I bought it. Exhaust looks terrible, stator cover had a hole in it, but replaced it.
[QUOTE=OctagonalFerret;1130914271]Has a constant fuel smell I can't find the source of, burns through fuel pretty quick. Full tank only lasts about 180km.
[QUOTE=OctagonalFerret;1130914271]Tires are in decent condition, front brake pads were replaced when I started riding, back ones should still last a while.
[QUOTE=OctagonalFerret;1130914271]Back brake has barely any power, think it has some air in it. I needed to bleed it when I got it, and was kinda lazy and kinda did the minimum I could do to pass the WoF (I should probably not own a motorbike).
An admitted lazy owner ... and you probably want money for it ... not looking good in this regard .... :no:
It's ALWAYS the PREVIOUS owner that did ... IT .. !!!!!!! :killingme
Losing power for no reason is BULLSHIT ... You just haven't found the reason. And can't be fucked looking ... even if you knew where to look. (which you DON'T) :lol:
Trust me on this ... your opinion is of little concern (or value) to us ... :beer:
Any bits Not broken ... ??? or not fucked enough that doesn't need replacing .. ???? :scratch:
I bet nobody will look it up. You've told us enough ... :rolleyes:
Contact us when you've sold this one ... or when you have money. State your budget when you DO ask. Until then ... few on this site will take you seriously ... But go for the chips offer ... and for him ... he was being polite. Although for being onsite only 10 minutes ... you were not to know that ... :laugh:
Let me note this down:
"Don't be honest"
"Don't admit to your own faults"
"Everyone are dicks"
"Nobody denied that I am a pretty princess, I shall take this as a compliment"
Tell me though, where would you look if the problem was a loss of power? Hmm?
Akzle
21st October 2015, 18:19
don worry about axle he aint right int head
quoted to immortalise your bad england.
I think the term is "gauging interest"?
I'm a learner motorcyclist considering upgrading to a learner legal 400 or higher, in doing so, I'd need to sell my Zeal.
The bike has WoF and Rego is valid, I've been riding it for 3 months with no major issues.
[QUOTE=OctagonalFerret;1130914271]I don't know much about motorcycle maintenance or anything, so apologies in advance if I don't go into enough detail in the following issues:
[QUOTE=OctagonalFerret;1130914271]It's not very tidy, had been down on the road before I bought it. Exhaust looks terrible, stator cover had a hole in it, but replaced it.
[QUOTE=OctagonalFerret;1130914271]Has a constant fuel smell I can't find the source of, burns through fuel pretty quick. Full tank only lasts about 180km.
[QUOTE=OctagonalFerret;1130914271]Tires are in decent condition, front brake pads were replaced when I started riding, back ones should still last a while.
Let me note this down:
"Don't be honest"
"Don't admit to your own faults"
"Everyone are dicks"
"Nobody denied that I am a pretty princess, I shall take this as a compliment"
Tell me though, where would you look if the problem was a loss of power? Hmm?
holy fucked html batgirl!
Google for a start. Then perhaps by asking relevant questions showing some intelligence and or aptitude.
Five bucks says It'll be in those shitty old carbs though.
WNJ
21st October 2015, 18:21
We talking fish 'n' chips or store bought chips?
Akzle chips :niceone:
OctagonalFerret
21st October 2015, 18:24
Ah yes, those carbs that were rebuilt when I got the bike. Never thought of getting those checked, eh.
Akzle
21st October 2015, 18:26
... But go for the chips offer ... and for him ... he was being polite. Although for being onsite only 10 minutes ... you were not to know that ... :laugh:
no cunt was offering chips this round...
FJRider
21st October 2015, 18:28
Let me note this down:
"Don't be honest"
"Don't admit to your own faults"
"Everyone are dicks"
"Nobody denied that I am a pretty princess, I shall take this as a compliment"
Tell me though, where would you look if the problem was a loss of power? Hmm?
no
no
no
no
Either fuel issues ... either a fuel blockage or crap stale fuel or it is contaminated ... with water maybe.
Or the rings are fucked ... and can only get compression when it's cold.
Akzle
21st October 2015, 18:29
Ah yes, those carbs that were rebuilt when I got the bike. Never thought of getting those checked, eh.
apparently not.
:laugh::laugh::laugh:
FJRider
21st October 2015, 18:31
no cunt was offering chips this round...
But you will ... :innocent:
Akzle
21st October 2015, 18:32
no
no
no
no
Either fuel issues ... either a fuel blockage or crap stale fuel or it is contaminated ... with water maybe.
Or the rings are fucked ... and can only get compression when it's cold.
but.... Everyone ARE dicks.
Fuel smell bro...
Akzle
21st October 2015, 18:33
But you will ... :innocent:
the hell would i want another fucked bike for?
FJRider
21st October 2015, 18:35
but.... Everyone ARE dicks.
Fuel smell bro...
if he got close and lit a match ... he might find the problem ... ;)
OctagonalFerret
21st October 2015, 18:40
no
no
no
no
Either fuel issues ... either a fuel blockage or crap stale fuel or it is contaminated ... with water maybe.
Or the rings are fucked ... and can only get compression when it's cold.
Actually, come to think of it. It gets much much worse when the bike has been sitting out in rain overnight. I wouldn't be too surprised if water was actually getting in somewhere when it rains...
Rings have been checked before, they were fine.
Akzle
21st October 2015, 18:42
who did all this checking? And why's the bike still so fucked?
OctagonalFerret
21st October 2015, 18:46
who did all this checking? And why's the bike still so fucked?
My father.
He has, I think he said 10 years experience working in a motorcycle repair shop.
As for why it's still fucked, because he's been checking shit as we find problems instead of actually just doing a decent check of everything :/
And half the time he just can't be stuffed looking at it.
FJRider
21st October 2015, 18:47
Actually, come to think of it. It gets much much worse when the bike has been sitting out in rain overnight. I wouldn't be too surprised if water was actually getting in somewhere when it rains...
Rings have been checked before, they were fine.
Azzhole reminded me ... smell of fuel usually means a leak. Thus fuel supply issue maybe.
Drain the tank into an open container .... if there is water in there you will see it. It will look like bubbles ...
FJRider
21st October 2015, 18:50
... And half the time he just can't be stuffed looking at it.
Father like son ... :facepalm:
OctagonalFerret
21st October 2015, 18:51
Father like son ... :facepalm:
Both motorcycles, and being lazy run in the family.
Thanks for the advice, I'll do that. Once I obtain a suitable container...
FJRider
21st October 2015, 18:56
Both motorcycles, and being lazy run in the family.
Thanks for the advice, I'll do that. Once I obtain a suitable container...
Kitchen sink ... (easily drained) :innocent:
OctagonalFerret
21st October 2015, 18:58
Kitchen sink ... (easily drained) :innocent:
Hahaha... I think I'm close enough to being kicked out of here...
WNJ
21st October 2015, 19:20
Hahaha... I think I'm close enough to being kicked out of here...
Not even close :brick:
FJRider
21st October 2015, 19:43
Hahaha... I think I'm close enough to being kicked out of here...
Maybe ... but I'm guessing he probably can't be bothered ... :blank:
nodrog
21st October 2015, 19:57
..... 4 cylinder 250's are rare. As they were only produced in Japan,...
as opposed to the ones produced in pokeno?
JimO
21st October 2015, 20:00
.... if there is water in there you will see it. It will look like bubbles ...
Michaels chimp?
FJRider
22nd October 2015, 17:00
Michaels chimp?
No monkeying around on this site chum ... ;)
haydes55
22nd October 2015, 18:19
As to original question. If someone offers a grand, take it and run.
FJRider
22nd October 2015, 18:38
As to original question. If someone offers a grand, take it and run.
Nobody will ... :lol:
FJRider
22nd October 2015, 18:42
We talking fish 'n' chips or store bought chips?
With your bike .. don't expect sauce with your chips ... it won't be worth the added expense .. <_<
FJRider
22nd October 2015, 18:44
Not even close :brick:
I'd want him to stay .. just for the entertainment value .. ;)
Big Dog
23rd October 2015, 01:28
I'd look to $1 aucun it.
Without rising it and based entirely on your words and pics? $100 -1000 with wof and reg.
Make sure you get a signed note accepting as is where is else you might find yourself in small claims if running rough turns into it doesn't go.
Personally I wouldn't pay more than 200 if I was looking at it because by your own admission this needs to go to someone happy to live with the bus or give up every weekend sorting it.
You might get 1k if you hold onto it long enough. More if you are a little less open about the faults but it might be beget karma just to move it on. No doubt whoever bus out won't know much about bikes.
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Big Dog
23rd October 2015, 01:34
My father.
He has, I think he said 10 years experience working in a motorcycle repair shop.
As for why it's still fucked, because he's been checking shit as we find problems instead of actually just doing a decent check of everything :/
And half the time he just can't be stuffed looking at it.
That should tell you why no offers of chips if even your motorcycle mechanic dad doesn't want to help.
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Akzle
23rd October 2015, 05:31
That should tell you why no offers of chips if even your motorcycle mechanic dad doesn't want to help.
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not much of a fuken mechanic... Bike's still fucked.
Op. I have reconsidered. I WILL give you five bucks for it.
....If you delielver it to me, with a full tank of fuel.
mossy1200
23rd October 2015, 05:48
I'd look to $1 aucun it.
Personally I wouldn't pay more than 200
You might get 1k if you hold onto it long enough.
That's looking accurate.
Maha
23rd October 2015, 06:12
Very descriptive. Thanks, random rude person.
Good to see my first experience in these forums being a good one.
No credence required, he doesn't own a bike and makes an offer on any bike he sees for sale, should you make personal contact with him, that herpes comment could come true, so... ''fools rush in'' etc.
Big Dog
23rd October 2015, 17:57
If it was in Auckland or at least te Awamutu and points north I'd take it off your hands for $200.
I have a son looking for a project bike. Be a great way to spend some time with him.
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Jin
24th October 2015, 07:00
Guys i have some vintage scrap metal lying around in the garage. How much do it think i can get for it?
mossy1200
24th October 2015, 09:39
Guys i have some vintage scrap metal lying around in the garage. How much do it think i can get for it?
Genuine or replica?
Coldrider
24th October 2015, 22:05
Guys i have some vintage scrap metal lying around in the garage. How much do it think i can get for it?
scrap metal 16 cents per Kg
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