Triumph Thruxton 1199R

[carbonhed]

Damn I love a set of blingy upside down forks on a retro rocket.

http://www.motorcyclenews.com/news/new-bikes/2015/october/all-new-triumph-thruxton-revealed/


http://images.mcn.bauercdn.com/PageFiles/553818/1752x1168/ThruxtonThruxtonR.jpg?mode=max&quality=90&scale=down

[Akzle]

fuck i hate iphone picography (i shant call it PHOTOgraphy)
narrow dof, shaded background softening filter with generic fade to black frame. EVERY TIME. Gay shit. Gay shit.


Sick fuken bike, but.

[AllanB]

Fuck em. For way too many years I've told them I want pretty much that engine in a Bonnie. Tough Triumph - I purchased a Ducati and life is good.

[jim.cox]

The reviewer for Stuff seems to like its little brother the 900 (actually 865)

http://www.stuff.co.nz/motoring/bikes/73183280/thruxton-900-is-the-21st-century-triton

But I do note he points out the new Guzzi is 20kg lighter

[BuzzardNZ]

Damn I love a set of blingy upside down forks on a retro rocket.

http://www.motorcyclenews.com/news/new-bikes/2015/october/all-new-triumph-thruxton-revealed/



I agree, awesome looking bike :drool:

[AllanB]

I still think Triumph are rude words.

They have done well to hind the radiator.

I see the cat under the front of the engine? - note the wank about the headers directing pipes hidden etc etc is not new - this has been done before - yawn.

They do look spunky though - torque figure is high. HP - I predict 92 horses.

[Berries]

Damn I love a set of blingy upside down forks on a retro rocket.
You bastard. I had just made my mind up on something else.

[Blackbird]

You bastard. I had just made my mind up on something else.

Just bought a Suzuki GSX-S 1000 after selling the Street Triple. Don't regret my choice but If the Bonnie had been announced 2 weeks ago, I'd have certainly hesitated!:crazy:

[tri boy]

Without the cat, (aftermarket pipe), there will be a huge gap between the motor and the frame tubes:facepalm:

[AllanB]

Without the cat, (aftermarket pipe), there will be a huge gap between the motor and the frame tubes:facepalm:

Darn - good point! Maybe the aftermarket pipes will come with a nice leather bag that fits in there to carry your weed in.

They must be a short header if the cat is that close. Why not just do those small round ones that fit within the mufflers like many other bikes?

[98tls]

Why will they not come up with a hp figure?

[Berries]

Why will they not come up with a hp figure?
A dollar figure would be pretty useful as well.

[98tls]

A dollar figure would be pretty useful as well.

If indeed the Trumpet style etc was your thing why not do some overtime and buy the overpriced Norton?

[Berries]

I did like the Norton when it came out but at that price it was never going to be on my radar. I am struggling to justify over $20K on a bike and I am pretty sure the Thruxton R will be mid 20's. For a weekend sunny weather toy perhaps if I was loaded, for an everyday ride which will suffer through rain, ice and my general lack of care for mechanical objects it doesn't really stack up.

[AllanB]

Why will they not come up with a hp figure?

I am in for 92 horses and the stated truck loads of torque. I will be like a big bore water cooled understressed version of the existing one. Hop up kits will get you to 100 horses. And fuckers will pass me on them regardless of my horsepower! :facepalm:

[far queue]

A dollar figure would be pretty useful as well.

£11,800 according to Jack Lilley (http://www.jacklilley.com/pages/news/latest-news-from-jack-lilley/new-triumph-bonneville-and-thruxton-announced.htm#.VjSB0ivHR81) in the UK which looks likely to me to be mid 20's here, and not available until April.

[AllanB]

£11,800 according to Jack Lilley (http://www.jacklilley.com/pages/news/latest-news-from-jack-lilley/new-triumph-bonneville-and-thruxton-announced.htm#.VjSB0ivHR81) in the UK which looks likely to me to be mid 20's here, and not available until April.

Mid 20's. Bad price range - a bucket load of very desirable machines from around the globe in that price bracket.

Maybe the 'standard' air cooled Bonnie is still looking attractive for most buyers interested in that sort of machine then.

[Ender EnZed]

Mid 20's. Bad price range - a bucket load of very desirable machines from around the globe in that price bracket.

Maybe the 'standard' air cooled Bonnie is still looking attractive for most buyers interested in that sort of machine then.

Yeah, the old Thruxton 900 at $15k sounds like pretty good value for what it is. Paying an extra ~$10k for a slightly less slow version of the same, that's still slower than a Street Triple, does not sound like good value.

[Berries]

... and not available until April.
Problem solved then, bloody teasers.

[AllanB]

Can't find any info on weight. Other than the motorcycle world being worried it has gotten heavier!

Slipper clutches, multi ride modes ....... retro is not what it was.

High pipe version looks cool. I still despise the wave holes in the single disk. Matches nothing on the bike.

Should Norton be worried now given they are super expensive.

[far queue]

Having seen the speculation and spy pics for long time now I was really looking forward to the new range being released. When it was I was underwhelmed by the Speedtwin and T120 but liked the look of the Thruxton R, however I'm finding myself going off it. Why not release the full specs? The things I want to know are Weight, HP, Tank Size, Price, Seat Height (I'm a short arse). Why leave people to guess? Around 100hp seems to be the popular guess, which doesn't seem a lot to me for a modern 1200, which Triumph call the "High Power" version in the Thruxton. The current Bonneville range are very tame as new and have a very under stressed engine, maybe the new one is too, for a 1200. I expect it'll be heavier than the current Bonneville range due to the water cooling/radiator, more substantial brakes, etc.

As AllanB said you can get a lot more bike for a mid $20k price from other manufacturers, even from Triumph in the Speed 94. Of course it's all speculation for now and it'll be 6 months before we see one, so It'll be interesting to see what figures finally come out. How much is show, and how much is go?

There's also the fact that I've spent a lot improving my T100 so the power and handling is a lot better than stock, and I really like what I've got now. It'll be interesting to go for a test ride eventually and compare.

[jim.cox]

I expect it'll be heavier than the current Bonneville range due to the water cooling/radiator, more substantial brakes, etc.


Certainly sounds like the new range are a bit on the porky side...


Should Norton be worried now given they are super expensive.

I figure the Norton to be MUCH more desirable, but there will be more Triumphs sold

[cc rider]

My boss just got back from UK launch.

Bastard didn't bring me anything :angry2:

[AllanB]

My boss just got back from UK launch.

Bastard didn't bring me anything :angry2:

Clearly time for a new job.

[carbonhed]

Well the BMW RnineT is an air cooled 1170 cc twin and it's got 110 bhp.

Similarly priced to the new Bonneville.

I'd hope for more than 110 bhp.

[jonbuoy]

I like it - really nice production line job of marrying the old to the new. As long as it has a really nice roll on roll off power delivery peak power wouldn't bother me on a naked like that. Someone will make some aftermarket cams to shuffle the power around.

[smmudd83_1999]

I was always a disappointed with the 2000 onwards Hinckley Bonnevilles. The '59 onward machines were real mean machines for the everyman. The new Bonnevilles are super dull to ride and are hardly overly spritely. They are novice machines that have sold well due to their unthreatening/easy-to-get-on-with nature, but to more experience riders they lack guts and character. Without tuning at any rate! (and which many have done).

When the 1600 T'bird arrived I thought Triumph would do a shorter wheelbase, naked retro with it. It'd be like a MT-01 that looked pretty - 'The New Bonneville That Never Happened' (though I understand focus groups in the UK called for it).

I guess we can say this new bike is it, sort of. A pretty good halfway house, at any rate.

Discounting the new CB1100 (dull), GSX1400 (not retro enough), CB1300 (same), W800 (dull) the only vague Jappa contenders might be the XJR1300 for performance and $s-wise.
The 961 Commando is still prettier and a bit closer to the "real" thing, though (which isn't necessarily a positive, depending on which period of motorcycling you hail from). But is way more $s. In days gone by the old Ducati Sport Classics using the 1000DS motors were pretty neat. Best of all was the Guzzi V11 Sport for retro character, not that I'm biased!

But with the Ducati Sport Classics and proper sporting retro Guzzis (not the bloomin' V7 thing) no longer being made, how many interesting decent performance retros are there in the shops? Norton 961? Yamaha XJR1300? And this being a new engine I bet the development costs have to be recouped somehow, luckily that this market isn't as hotly contested as it used to be for price setting. [Did I read this bike has 12 valves? 3 inlet + 3 exhaust / cylinder. R&D costs must have been significant.]

I think the bike will be of interest for many. 81lbft of torque at 3500rpm is quite a torquey delivery, should be an interesting real world performance ride.

[Paulo]

I was always a disappointed with the 2000 onwards Hinckley Bonnevilles. The '59 onward machines were real mean machines for the everyman. The new Bonnevilles are super dull to ride and are hardly overly spritely. They are novice machines that have sold well due to their unthreatening/easy-to-get-on-with nature, but to more experience riders they lack guts and character. Without tuning at any rate! (and which many have done).

When the 1600 T'bird arrived I thought Triumph would do a shorter wheelbase, naked retro with it. It'd be like a MT-01 that looked pretty - 'The New Bonneville That Never Happened' (though I understand focus groups in the UK called for it).

I guess we can say this new bike is it, sort of. A pretty good halfway house, at any rate.

Discounting the new CB1100 (dull), GSX1400 (not retro enough), CB1300 (same), W800 (dull) the only vague Jappa contenders might be the XJR1300 for performance and $s-wise.
The 961 Commando is still prettier and a bit closer to the "real" thing, though (which isn't necessarily a positive, depending on which period of motorcycling you hail from). But is way more $s. In days gone by the old Ducati Sport Classics using the 1000DS motors were pretty neat. Best of all was the Guzzi V11 Sport for retro character, not that I'm biased!

But with the Ducati Sport Classics and proper sporting retro Guzzis (not the bloomin' V7 thing) no longer being made, how many interesting decent performance retros are there in the shops? Norton 961? Yamaha XJR1300? And this being a new engine I bet the development costs have to be recouped somehow, luckily that this market isn't as hotly contested as it used to be for price setting. [Did I read this bike has 12 valves? 3 inlet + 3 exhaust / cylinder. R&D costs must have been significant.]

I think the bike will be of interest for many. 81lbft of torque at 3500rpm is quite a torquey delivery, should be an interesting real world performance ride.

Guzzi have been taking a long siesta, all they needed to do was put the 8v griso motor in a tonti type frame (something with lemans style proportions ) and they would have an instant sales hit, instead they concentrate on ever more bloated cruisers for the yankee markert :(

ps love my V11 too.

oh and the Thruxton R looks good nice, plenty of torque.

[AllanB]

Nice point of view.

XJ1300 is not a retro - they just never stopped making them!

The XJ is not property in the custom market now - many brutal looking beasts being produced.

[far queue]

Prices for T120 and T120 Black, and price and specs for Street Twin here (http://www.visordown.com/motorcycle-news-new-bikes/triumph-bonneville-pricing-and-specs-revealed/30573.html).

[AllanB]

Eh 55hp? that's less than the current one? Maybe it's rear wheel hp not crank?

[jonbuoy]

Eh 55hp? that's less than the current one? Maybe it's rear wheel hp not crank?

59 ft/lb at 3000 RPM. Probably still more than enough for the customers it's aimed it. Would be enough for me just to punt around on.

[Ender EnZed]

Eh 55hp? that's less than the current one? Maybe it's rear wheel hp not crank?

Must be the LAMS approved model.

[98tls]

Eh 55hp? that's less than the current one? Maybe it's rear wheel hp not crank?

:banana::lol::killingme Ive an old shibox japper that i can whip the fairing off and drop the bars,not only will it sound better/look better it will actually go better:weird:not sure if it likes short jaunts and fancy coffee though.If you factor in the weight of the fat cunt that would buy such a thiing then triple it for the weight of his mrs....

[GrayWolf]

:banana::lol::killingme Ive an old shibox japper that i can whip the fairing off and drop the bars,not only will it sound better/look better it will actually go better:weird:not sure if it likes short jaunts and fancy coffee though.If you factor in the weight of the fat cunt that would buy such a thiing then triple it for the weight of his mrs....

Having owned an MT-01 {still do till it's sold} it isnt about 'ultimate' performance. I Stage 2'd mine {equiv of the thruxton to the standard bonnie}. Best way to describe it, it's the 'assault' on the senses, vibration, throbbing, torque, exhaust sound, the feel of it being a 'REAL' motorcycle. As for sound? With aftermarket pipes, no 4 cyl japper is going to sound like it. The shop selling my MT on behalf LOVE firing it up, deep, sonorous, and absolutely sounds nicer than the 'nasty crack' a HD has with straight through pipes. The Thruxton will be about smiles per mile as well, and I'll put money it will hit the spot.
Like the MT-01, you either 'get it' or you dont.

[AllanB]

Thruxton is a 1200 - it 'should' have a easy 80 hp and globs of torque. The new 900 appears to have lost hp!

Ultimate hp is not the goal of these rides or the owners but 55hp from a 900 is Harley domain and the torque figure is not that impressive.

The MT01 you speak of has 89 hp and 110 ft-lbs.

That's what I would be expecting from the 1200 after the press release.

The 'new' 900 .........

Disappointing.

Nice learner bike for the USA I guess.

And they will sound like a sparrow fart with stock pipes probably the existing Bonnie does. More disappointment.

HAPPY TO BE PROVEN WRONG

[Blackbird]

The Thruxton will be about smiles per mile as well, and I'll put money it will hit the spot.
Like the MT-01, you either 'get it' or you dont.

Exactly :Punk: . To a point, performance is largely irrelevant. It's selling nostalgia. Growing up in the UK, I rode an old pre-unit Tiger 100 in all weathers, lusted after an original Thruxton, saw Malcolm Uphill win the '69 TT production race on one. For me, it's the emotional connection with my formative riding years so I'd happily buy one on that basis.

Pity I've just bought a GSX-S :facepalm:

[Navy Boy]

To be honest Triumph were in a no-win situation with the replacement Bonnies. Purists don't like having a radiator and others don't think it's fast/powerful enough.

Personally I think they have the balance right and I like the fact that they have made a 900 as well as the 1200 models. My current T100 strikes a cracking balance between nostalgia, performance and price and I will be looking at a T120 (Or a Thruxton, depends on the riding position) in a year or two's time. If power and torque figures alone sold bikes then H-D would have gone out of business years ago.

As for Norton's 961 models - They are selling to a different customer TBH. I owned one in the UK before emigrating here to NZ. My verdict - It sounded nice, looked the business but never idled properly and Norton all but admitted that they couldn't fix it so I went and bought a new T100 Black instead. :no: At least this one actually works properly... :msn-wink:

[98tls]

Having owned an MT-01 {still do till it's sold} it isnt about 'ultimate' performance. I Stage 2'd mine {equiv of the thruxton to the standard bonnie}. Best way to describe it, it's the 'assault' on the senses, vibration, throbbing, torque, exhaust sound, the feel of it being a 'REAL' motorcycle. As for sound? With aftermarket pipes, no 4 cyl japper is going to sound like it. The shop selling my MT on behalf LOVE firing it up, deep, sonorous, and absolutely sounds nicer than the 'nasty crack' a HD has with straight through pipes. The Thruxton will be about smiles per mile as well, and I'll put money it will hit the spot.
Like the MT-01, you either 'get it' or you dont.

Guess i dont then,as for sound? theres plenty of jap V twins that will sound far better aftermarket pipes or not.Thing i dont get most about this thing is what its supposed to represent...speed and performance.This things a big fail though hey it does look the part so am guessing it will sell well as lets face it in todays world it isnt about what it can do tis far more important just to look like it could.

[AllanB]

The 'correct' sound is a debate that will go on for decades to come until the internal combustion engine is replaced by electric - then motorcyclists will compare wattage or armature designs or something in relationship to the best sound ....

You cannot deny the howl of a piped IL4 at 12,000 rpm raises the neck hair, likewise a rowdy V twin can sound just right. And need I mention a triple? Screaming power band two-stroke anyone? Thumping single where you can almost count the power strokes?

All good in my books.

Unfortunately in many countries also a thing of the past with noise enforcement. NZ is indeed one of the free still.

[98tls]

So we are all agreed then..its a turd albeit a pretty one (as pretty as a turd can be).

[Voltaire]

I had a 04 Thruxton for a few months, did a couple of ART days and a Superbike School on it, sold it as a really cheap ( $1100) R65 that went just as well came my way, could rev to 8000 and I did not have to worry about bike dealers, servicing costs, resale, damaging it etc.
I hate depreciation and high Rego costs.

Be interesting if there was a HP meter you could put on your bike to see how much you used as you rode.
Be impressed to see if anyone could use much more than 50 HP other than the odd bit of overtaking.

[far queue]

Ride, review, and some more specs here (http://www.motorcyclistonline.com/first-ride-review-2016-triumph-bonneville-street-twin-motorcyclist-magazine-2016-bonnie-reviews?src=SOC&dom=tw). This is for the 900cc Speed Twin still, not the 1200's. Reads a bit like an info-mercial to me.

Interesting comments from a few people on here slagging off the Bonnies. Fair enough if you don't like them, don't buy one. Mine certainly doesn't have as much power or handle as well as well as the Ducati I had prior to it, but I enjoy riding it more. I've spent a bit upgrading the suspension, air in, and exhaust out, and it performs much better than stock, and sounds much better. The physical size suits me better than anything else I've had, as I'm a short arse, and I find it to be an all round fun bike to ride whether it's a ride in city traffic, a play in the twisties, or a long haul to a rally. A bit more power would be nice, and some further handling improvements would also be nice. The Bonnie range has certainly sold well for Triumph, so there must be more to them for people than just nostalgic appearance.

I was looking forward to the new range coming out to get those further improvements, but for the price that it looks as though the Thruxton will be, I'd rather keep what I've got and continue to tweek it. Time will tell. I certainly won't be buying the 1st of a new model though.

[J.A.W.]

Time will tell. I certainly won't be buying the 1st of a new model though.



So, what went wrong with the 1st year retro Bonnevilles?

They aint in the same category as those dodgy retro 'Garner' Norton Commandos, surely?

& is there really an issue with `78 SR 500s - that the `79s - don't share?

[Black Knight]

According to the Nov issue of Motorcycle Trader magazine (Straylian) the Thruxton and Thruxton R develop 112Nm of torque at 4950 which is a higher rev range than the other new Trumpies.Still no mention of HP a la HD's marketing (or embarrassment).Pricing for the std Thruxton is given at AU$18700 and the R at AU$21100-I now ask what these will be in NZ,when the new Honda CB1300 came out a mate of mine bought one in Sydney for Au$10200 on road,he could have got me one for less than $10000 still in the box FOB Sydney.The NZ Honda dealers were asking nearly $18,000-Go figure.

[Black Knight]

As these are a new bike-chassis,motor etc with expected arrivals in NZ between Jan and April,I wonder what price the 2015 Bonnies can currently be bought for,could be some good deals out there.

[Ender EnZed]

According to the Nov issue of Motorcycle Trader magazine (Straylian) the Thruxton and Thruxton R develop 112Nm of torque at 4950

That'd mean it makes at least 78 hp.

[GrayWolf]

So we are all agreed then..its a turd albeit a pretty one (as pretty as a turd can be).

Troll much???

[GrayWolf]

Guess i dont then,as for sound? theres plenty of jap V twins that will sound far better aftermarket pipes or not.Thing i dont get most about this thing is what its supposed to represent...speed and performance.This things a big fail though hey it does look the part so am guessing it will sell well as lets face it in todays world it isnt about what it can do tis far more important just to look like it could.

It's a 'memory lane' roadtrip. It will be faster {and more reliable} than the original Thruxton. That's it's point, the look, 'feel' etc of a 1960's {real} motorcycle, WITHOUT the prince of darkness and a toolkit on the back.
HD as much as I am not a fan of the marque, do an outstanding 'sales pitch' based on the legacy of yesterday. As I said about the MT-01, it isnt about 'ultimate' performance. That's also why bikes like the CB1300, GS1400, XJR and the ZXR1200 sold, they were/are a re-visit of the early 1980's 'fast bikes' with the advantage of modern technology.

[jonbuoy]

Guess i dont then,as for sound? theres plenty of jap V twins that will sound far better aftermarket pipes or not.Thing i dont get most about this thing is what its supposed to represent...speed and performance.This things a big fail though hey it does look the part so am guessing it will sell well as lets face it in todays world it isnt about what it can do tis far more important just to look like it could.

Your missing the point - it represents nostalgia. Speed and Performance is represented in the sports bike section.

[AllanB]

Your missing the point - it represents nostalgia. Speed and Performance is represented in the sports bike section.

Ah - I'll open with a reminder that if they had done the 1200 (or similar) update a year back they may have got my money.

Re nostalgia - the thing is the Triumph was in it's day a SPORT bike - light, fast and ready to take on anything.

They had room for the existing softer nostalgia trip - what they missed and I was pissed off back then with the original retro release of the Thruxton was it should have been a hot rod twin with performance way above the standard models.

Never mind they appear to have corrected that now - just lost a sale on the way, but looking at the new Thruxton probably pick em up three fold :-)

Price in NZ? I'll guess $20 and $24-25 for the 1200's

I presume the current model will be phased out quickly and the new 900 be the starter?

[Voltaire]

Ah - I'll open with a reminder that if they had done the 1200 (or similar) update a year back they may have got my money.

Re nostalgia - the thing is the Triumph was in it's day a SPORT bike - light, fast and ready to take on anything.

They had room for the existing softer nostalgia trip - what they missed and I was pissed off back then with the original retro release of the Thruxton was it should have been a hot rod twin with performance way above the standard models.

Never mind they appear to have corrected that now - just lost a sale on the way, but looking at the new Thruxton probably pick em up three fold :-)

Price in NZ? I'll guess $20 and $24-25 for the 1200's

I presume the current model will be phased out quickly and the new 900 be the starter?

I wonder if the arse will drop out of the air cooled ones like they did to the 70's Triumphs?

I don't know about nostalgia, making a throttle body look like a Monoblock....

[AllanB]

I don't know about nostalgia, making a throttle body look like a Monoblock....

Yeah - thought it was good on the air cooled ones when they went injection but think of it as a gimmick on the 'new' ones - the minimal look of the injector units would have complimented the cafe look. And they are water cooled now too so why try to hide the tech?

[Voltaire]

Yeah - thought it was good on the air cooled ones when they went injection but think of it as a gimmick on the 'new' ones - the minimal look of the injector units would have complimented the cafe look. And they are water cooled now too so why try to hide the tech?

Nostalgia is big with motorcycles, Triumph, Harley and more recently Ducati and Guzzi all doing it.
I've got a Triumph brochure showing the beautiful cool young people out riding and sitting at a cafe.....was it ever like that?

https://themarquisblogger.files.wordpress.com/2014/10/royal-enfield-continental-gt_9.jpg

[far queue]

So, what went wrong with the 1st year retro Bonnevilles?

They aint in the same category as those dodgy retro 'Garner' Norton Commandos, surely?

& is there really an issue with `78 SR 500s - that the `79s - don't share?

It's not uncommon for new models of all sorts of stuff, not just bikes, to have teething problems. The manufacturers then fix the niggles that come up in the subsequent years, as well as providing fixes for the 1st model. They don't all have problems, it's just that I prefer others to find any niggles that may crop up. No matter how much testing a factory does, customers can often find new issues, however minor.

'01-'08 Bonnies had an issue with breaking rear wheel spokes, which was cured with a hub redesign for '09, so it took them a while to fix that one.

I understand that '78 and '79 SR500's are the same as each other. The rear brake was changed to a drum in '80, because people keep locking up the rear and arsing off. That's more "pilot error" though, and probably Yamaha not wanting to get sued by the yanks.

[98tls]

Your missing the point - it represents nostalgia. Speed and Performance is represented in the sports bike section.

So they name a bike after a famous race track but its not intended to represent anything to do with speed and performance :facepalm: as a pastime motorcycling has changed some from when i started out but jesus H :wacko:Crazy old world.Whats the R stand for..retirement?

[jonbuoy]

So they name a bike after a famous race track but its not intended to represent anything to do with speed and performance :facepalm: as a pastime motorcycling has changed some from when i started out but jesus H :wacko:Crazy old world.Whats the R stand for..retirement?

I'd say that's pretty much it's target age group. A Sportster isn't really sporty either - doesn't stop them selling. It's just an upright cruiser with a nod to past.

[Voltaire]

So they name a bike after a famous race track but its not intended to represent anything to do with speed and performance :facepalm: as a pastime motorcycling has changed some from when i started out but jesus H :wacko:Crazy old world.Whats the R stand for..retirement?

Ever noticed who drives around in Porsches and Ferrari's?....

They should name bikes properly.

The Triumph WeakEnder....spends most of its time in the garage and parked outside cafes.

The Norton Left of the Kids Inheritance.....exclusive costs

Harley Davidson Thunderchrome..... shiny and makes lots of noise.

[Laava]

Ever noticed who drives around in Porsches and Ferrari's?....

They should name bikes properly.

The Triumph WeakEnder....spends most of its time in the garage and parked outside cafes.

The Norton Left of the Kids Inheritance.....exclusive costs

Harley Davidson Thunderchrome..... shiny and makes lots of noise.

The "Lifan Cheesalloy"

[98tls]

I'd say that's pretty much it's target age group. A Sportster isn't really sporty either - doesn't stop them selling. It's just an upright cruiser with a nod to past.

Uh huh...just because something sells dont make it right.

[jonbuoy]

Uh huh...just because something sells dont make it right.

Right by who's definition- why is your definition of right better than other people's?
Different bikes for different peoples taste - like everything else - we all different.

[GrayWolf]

Ever noticed who drives around in Porsches and Ferrari's?....

They should name bikes properly.

The Triumph WeakEnder....spends most of its time in the garage and parked outside cafes.

The Norton Left of the Kids Inheritance.....exclusive costs

Harley Davidson Thunderchrome..... shiny and makes lots of noise.

HD have just released a new 'hardcore' biker badge, It's the '99% 'er' badge, coz 99% of em only see summer sunday rides.
Think the new model is called the HD Clergyman......... you only see it on sunday's.

[pritch]

According to the Nov issue of Motorcycle Trader magazine (Straylian) the Thruxton and Thruxton R develop 112Nm of torque at 4950 which is a higher rev range than the other new Trumpies.Still no mention of HP a la HD's marketing (or embarrassment).Pricing for the std Thruxton is given at AU$18700 and the R at AU$21100-I now ask what these will be in NZ,when the new Honda CB1300 came out a mate of mine bought one in Sydney for Au$10200 on road,he could have got me one for less than $10000 still in the box FOB Sydney.The NZ Honda dealers were asking nearly $18,000-Go figure.

Triumph were being very coy about the power figures of the new models. Not a good sign. Then the new "900" turns out to have lost fifteen or so ponies on its predecessor. Albeit for an increase in torque and better fuel consumption, but even so...

BlueWing have a long history of overly optimistic pricing.

[Voltaire]

On the Norton Commando Site I frequent the lads seem quite keen on the Thruxton.
14.5 K US.
I think Norton sales, what they are will take a hit.
http://www.accessnorton.com/thruxton-details-t23722.html

[98tls]

Right by who's definition- why is your definition of right better than other people's?
Different bikes for different peoples taste - like everything else - we all different.

:clap:jesus H.:brick:...39 motorcycles later i share the sentiment fella and not once did i say i was right by definition or anything else,i simply mentioned that sticking the name of a well famous racetrack on the side of an overweight underpowered turd wasnt something that would make me want one though did concede that motorcycling has changed some since i started out and hey if it doesnt bother potential buyers then fine,maybe they will really take off and there an op to set up a business picking up old folk from the home and taking em for a ride on such a thing,shit even let them ride it on there as theres not much chance of things going wrong with the HP figure.

[Laava]

Holy fuck! We need JAW here to lighten the mood!

[98tls]

Holy fuck! We need JAW here to lighten the mood!

Theres no mood:brick: its simply the internet.

[Stevee2]

Just saw this: http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/tourers/auction-1019567013.htm

$25.5k! A bit more expensive than I was expecting it would be...

[carbonhed]

Just saw this: http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/tourers/auction-1019567013.htm

$25.5k! A bit more expensive than I was expecting it would be...

Hmmmm... sweaty palms and wallet puckering.

[carbonhed]

First rides on the launch of the Thruxton R.

http://www.motorcyclenews.com/news/first-rides-tests/2016/march/triumph-thruxton-r-first-ride/

[AllanB]

Engine: Parallel twin, four-stroke, eight valves, SOHC, Liquid-cooled 1200cc, 97.6mm x 80mm
Claimed power: 95.6bhp @ 6750rpm
Claimed torque: 82.6lb.ft @ 4950rpm
Weight: 203kg (dry)
Fuel capacity: 14.5l
Seat height: 810mm


God torque figure for a low rever.

Bit porky though - be another 20 kg on that wet. Shit man my 1983 Kawasaki Z750 twin claimed 205 kgs. And the was a huge piece of alloy.


Interesting to see if there is a 'performance' retro styled revival soon. Been several over the years - that tasty Zephyr set of Kawasakis, Ducatis, Honda tried the CB but not performance and over priced in NZ (mind you relatively value with a Thruxton at $25k).

I get my daily does of modded bikes from the net - some of the nicest retro goodness are popping up from Yamahas build commissions - they should apply some of the production rides.


BUT - I suspect the Triumph retro market is captivated proportionally highly by the English. No so much demand from the Japanese?