Lost motorhome

[Daffyd]

Before I moved to the Philippines I lived in a motorhome. After I had been here some time I asked my son, who was looking after it, to sell it on my behalf. After some time had passed, it became clear that it would be difficult to move, however we were made an offer of rent-to-buy.

This worked fine until, after about one third of the agreed price was paid, the payments stopped. I emailed the 'buyer', tried to call the 'buyer', my son tried to call the 'buyer', and even, several times, went to the caravan park where the 'buyer' had been, all to no avail. He was employed as a truck driver on the ChCh earthquake recovery and then had a job on the building side of things.

The man had clearly disappeared, along with my motorhome, still owing me $33,000!

Maybe someone out there may have seen it. The 'buyer' lived in Oamaru at the time of sale, but may be in the Taupo area. I have also heard on the grapevine that it may have changed hands again. The choice of bike I can buy on my return to NZ depends on the recovery of this vehicle. If anyone has seen, or knows the whereabouts of this vehicle could they please PM me?

Description: 1996 Isuzu Forward with a Fleetwood Prowler caravan mounted on a lengthened chassis. Reg. No. DDQ985.




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[nzspokes]

List it as stolen and see what happens when somebody tries to register it or get a WOF/COF.

And pass it around on Facebook.

[ruaphu]

Yep what he said and try asking the various caravan/camper clubs to see if they flick on their sites, fb pages etc.


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[oldrider]

Before I moved to the Philippines I lived in a motorhome. After I had been here some time I asked my son, who was looking after it, to sell it on my behalf. After some time had passed, it became clear that it would be difficult to move, however we were made an offer of rent-to-buy.

This worked fine until, after about one third of the agreed price was paid, the payments stopped. I emailed the 'buyer', tried to call the 'buyer', my son tried to call the 'buyer', and even, several times, went to the caravan park where the 'buyer' had been, all to no avail. He was employed as a truck driver on the ChCh earthquake recovery and then had a job on the building side of things.

The man had clearly disappeared, along with my motorhome, still owing me $33,000!

Maybe someone out there may have seen it. The 'buyer' lived in Oamaru at the time of sale, but may be in the Taupo area. I have also heard on the grapevine that it may have changed hands again. The choice of bike I can buy on my return to NZ depends on the recovery of this vehicle. If anyone has seen, or knows the whereabouts of this vehicle could they please PM me?

Description: 1996 Isuzu Forward with a Fleetwood Prowler caravan mounted on a lengthened chassis. Reg. No. DDQ985.

G'day Daffyd - you say the guy lived in Oamaru - I will keep an eye out around the Waitaki Lakes area in case he has come up here.

PM me the details of where he lived in Oamaru etc and I will see what I can snif out for you. Cheers, John.

[HenryDorsetCase]

Before I moved to the Philippines I lived in a motorhome. After I had been here some time I asked my son, who was looking after it, to sell it on my behalf. After some time had passed, it became clear that it would be difficult to move, however we were made an offer of rent-to-buy.

This worked fine until, after about one third of the agreed price was paid, the payments stopped. I emailed the 'buyer', tried to call the 'buyer', my son tried to call the 'buyer', and even, several times, went to the caravan park where the 'buyer' had been, all to no avail. He was employed as a truck driver on the ChCh earthquake recovery and then had a job on the building side of things.

The man had clearly disappeared, along with my motorhome, still owing me $33,000!

Maybe someone out there may have seen it. The 'buyer' lived in Oamaru at the time of sale, but may be in the Taupo area. I have also heard on the grapevine that it may have changed hands again. The choice of bike I can buy on my return to NZ depends on the recovery of this vehicle. If anyone has seen, or knows the whereabouts of this vehicle could they please PM me?

Description: 1996 Isuzu Forward with a Fleetwood Prowler caravan mounted on a lengthened chassis. Reg. No. DDQ985.




317131317132

Talk to the po po. Your vehicle has been stolen.

What takes it out of the realm of a "failed business deal" and into the arena of theft is the whole "He knew he owed me money and he flitted with the vehicle" aspect.

Why the fuck do people do this shit without talking to a lawyer? Fucksakes. Things you could and should have done: A sale and purchase agreement incorporating terms on which the loan would be made, the interest payable, and reserving title until you are paid in full. PLUS INCORPORATING A RIGHT TO CREATE A CHARGE ON THE PPSR. That way anyone doing due diligence on it when he on-sells it sees the charge and says "I ain't payin till thats cleared".

Christ on a crutch people $350 in lawyers fees and you wouldnt be sitting there scratching your balls wondering what happened to your $60k investment.

All is probably not lost (he cannot give clear title to something he does not own) and the vehicle is too big to disappear. Talk about make your life harder than it needs to be though.

I will search the PPSR on Monday for you and see if anything hits. Do you know the VIN number? PM me.

[jasonu]

List it as stolen and see what happens when somebody tries to register it or get a WOF/COF.

And pass it around on Facebook.

and post the name of the guy too.

[Berries]

Check out number 46, is that it ?

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[Daffyd]

List it as stolen and see what happens when somebody tries to register it or get a WOF/COF.

And pass it around on Facebook.

It is listed as stolen.


Talk to the po po. Your vehicle has been stolen.

What takes it out of the realm of a "failed business deal" and into the arena of theft is the whole "He knew he owed me money and he flitted with the vehicle" aspect.

Why the fuck do people do this shit without talking to a lawyer? Fucksakes. Things you could and should have done: A sale and purchase agreement incorporating terms on which the loan would be made, the interest payable, and reserving title until you are paid in full. PLUS INCORPORATING A RIGHT TO CREATE A CHARGE ON THE PPSR. That way anyone doing due diligence on it when he on-sells it sees the charge and says "I ain't payin till thats cleared".

Christ on a crutch people $350 in lawyers fees and you wouldnt be sitting there scratching your balls wondering what happened to your $60k investment.

All is probably not lost (he cannot give clear title to something he does not own) and the vehicle is too big to disappear. Talk about make your life harder than it needs to be though.

I will search the PPSR on Monday for you and see if anything hits. Do you know the VIN number? PM me.


All that was done... My brother is a lawyer and he always dots the i's and crosses the t's. He drew up the agreement and is working with the police on this.


and post the name of the guy too.

The guy's name is Rangi Senior Hepi.

[Daffyd]

List it as stolen and see what happens when somebody tries to register it or get a WOF/COF.

And pass it around on Facebook.

It is on Facebook. (See my wall, 'David Galt').

[onearmedbandit]

Doesn't show up on your page, unless you're a 'friend' I'm guessing.

[Reckless]

Rangi.

Damn Rangi strikes again :blink:

Sorry mate just couldnt resist Hope you get it back.

[Daffyd]

Damn Rangi strikes again :blink:

Funny you should say that... I had an uneasy feeling at the start, but initially he was very good. He took a hiatus over last Xmas so he could take his dying wife back to the tribal area somewhere around Taupo, then resumed payments, (actually paying more weekly to cover the non-payment period. Then, three months later... zilch!

[tri boy]

Probably a mobile P lab in the Urawera by now.
I do feel for ya.
The more I deal with humans, the more I like animals.

[HenryDorsetCase]

The guy's name is Rangi Senior Hepi.

Really? and you lent him money?

[nzspokes]

Really? and you lent him money?

No it was a house truck, keep up.

[Erelyes]

Jesus H Christ. When it comes to strangers buying shit their cash can't cover, get them to borrow from an actual fucking lender.

If a bank doesn't trust them neither would I.

[BMWST?]

Jesus H Christ. When it comes to strangers buying shit their cash can't cover, get them to borrow from an actual fucking lender.

If a bank doesn't trust them neither would I.
there is some merit to this argument

[jasonu]

The guy's name is Rangi Senior Hepi.

Maybe old Rangi has turned your rig into a 'hospitality' vehicle for this event...
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11541370

[Jin]

No one can be this stupid. I think OP is a troll.

[Daffyd]

Jesus H Christ. When it comes to strangers buying shit their cash can't cover, get them to borrow from an actual fucking lender.

If a bank doesn't trust them neither would I.'

'No one can be this stupid. I think OP is a troll.'

That's right, kick a dog while he's down. Sometimes, when you're backed into a corner you don't have a lot of choice. All I'm asking is for KB'rs to keep an eye open.

[Grashopper]

Will keep an eye out here in Taupo.

[Daffyd]

Will keep an eye out here in Taupo.

Thanks Grasshopper. That's exactly what I was asking for. If I can get a location I can pass it on to Mr Plod.

[T.W.R]

Are you or were you a member of the motorhome owners association?
If so just inform them of the theft etc, they've got eyes & ears everywhere:niceone:
More of tight knit community than we are so someone is bound to have seen it somewhere.

[Daffyd]

Are you or were you a member of the motorhome owners association?
If so just inform them of the theft etc, they've got eyes & ears everywhere:niceone:
More of tight knit community than we are so someone is bound to have seen it somewhere.

Yes, I was a member of the NZMCA, (NZ Motor Caravan Association). Working on that.

[sidecar bob]

And someone with a name like that didn't ring alarm bells for you?
Dude, seriously, were you born & raised in a different country?

[unstuck]

Really? and you lent him money?

Yeah, kinda got me thinking too. :clap:

[Daffyd]

And someone with a name like that didn't ring alarm bells for you?
Dude, seriously, were you born & raised in a different country?

No, born in NZ, but living in another country at the time of sale. As I said earlier, when you're backed into a corner you don't have a lot of choices!

[JimO]

The guy's name is Rangi Senior Hepi.
well there is where you went wrong

[oldrider]

Take the tenure of this thread and the anti Maori flavour is apparently acceptable.

Take any other thread where Israel or Jews are mentioned and compare just how conditioned we are to think in a specific way - the point should be obvious - but :no:

[Akzle]

Take the tenure of this thread and the anti Maori flavour is apparently acceptable.

Take any other thread where Israel or Jews are mentioned and compare just how conditioned we are to think in a specific way - the point should be obvious - but :no:

dude. Without teh government and monetary controls to keep dark folk poor and white folk distracted, them blacks would be out eating all the god-fearin white folk, dontcha know.

[JimO]

Take the tenure of this thread and the anti Maori flavour is apparently acceptable.

Take any other thread where Israel or Jews are mentioned and compare just how conditioned we are to think in a specific way - the point should be obvious - but :no:
and yet here his is being stiffed by one of the tounge de fenua

[sidecar bob]

Take the tenure of this thread and the anti Maori flavour is apparently acceptable.

Take any other thread where Israel or Jews are mentioned and compare just how conditioned we are to think in a specific way - the point should be obvious - but :no:

Yep, because the default of payment was entirely predictable based on the fact that they are wired up entirely differently to "pakeha" whatever the fuck they are.

[bogan]

Really? and you lent him money?


And someone with a name like that didn't ring alarm bells for you?
Dude, seriously, were you born & raised in a different country?


Yeah, kinda got me thinking too. :clap:


well there is where you went wrong

You guys aren't from down south perchance?


Take the tenure of this thread and the anti Maori flavour is apparently acceptable.

Take any other thread where Israel or Jews are mentioned and compare just how conditioned we are to think in a specific way - the point should be obvious - but :no:

Do you mean tenor?

And we get it, you're just a poor downtrodden bigot who keeps getting discriminated against. The irony remains fucking delicious.

[JimO]

yes indeedy southern rednecks rule

[Berries]

And there was me thinking that Rangi Senior Hepi was some kind of Maori high school.

[Daffyd]

Yes sireebob.

[Motu]

Saw one just like that with all the other campers parked up on the Kaiaua coast today- - different graphics, but that'd be the first thing to change. Not an uncommon truck or camper style though, I bet more than one was made.

[Daffyd]

Mine was actually built in Winton, Southland by my ex employer. He imported the truck from Japan and the caravan from 'Murca. The idea has been used quite a lot, but thanks for the info'. I'll pass it along to my contacts.

[F5 Dave]

So assuming he wasn't intending to stiff you from the start (why bother paying for so long?). Other options are, a) he karked it. And if he doesn't have a psychic estate it just sits somewhere till a relative claims it.
Or more likely b) he got depressed, left his job, got into money troubles and just didn't want to think about it and walked away.

[JimO]

So assuming he wasn't intending to stiff you from the start (why bother paying for so long?). Other options are, a) he karked it. And if he doesn't have a psychic estate it just sits somewhere till a relative claims it.
Or more likely b) he got depressed, left his job, got into money troubles and just didn't want to think about it and walked away.
probably drove away

[Daffyd]

So assuming he wasn't intending to stiff you from the start (why bother paying for so long?). Other options are, a) he karked it. And if he doesn't have a psychic estate it just sits somewhere till a relative claims it.
Or more likely b) he got depressed, left his job, got into money troubles and just didn't want to think about it and walked away.

These possibilities have all occurred to me. I'm quite sure his original intentions were genuine enough. Hi wife was in and out of hospital with terminal cancer, so there's every chance that depression hand a hand in it. She and their daughter became FB friends of mine; the mother disappearing from my screen soon after the payments stopped, and the the daughter a couple of months later.

[sidecar bob]

She and their daughter became FB friends of mine; the mother disappearing from my screen soon after the payments stopped, and the the daughter a couple of months later.

So they're all in on it then.

[5150]

Thanks Grasshopper. That's exactly what I was asking for. If I can get a location I can pass it on to Mr Plod.

Or send in couple of legal representatives. I am sure Mr Smith and Mr Wessen could take care of the situation for you.....:cool:

[Daffyd]

Or send in couple of legal representatives. I am sure Mr Smith and Mr Wessen could take care of the situation for you.....:cool:

Believe me... the thought has crossed my mind. It may yet come to that.