2016 Yamaha MT-10

[EJK]

http://images.mcn.bauercdn.com/PageFiles/556052/540x360/15_MT-10.jpg

http://www.motorcyclenews.com/news/new-bikes/2015/november/yamaha-mt-10-2016/

Oh yeah! Take my money!

[Tazz]

Looks like some sort of Decepticon.

[EJK]

Looks like some sort of Decepticon.

Yep. It can transform money into fun!

[nodrog]

[IMG]
Oh yeah! Take my money!

ok cunt, hand it over!

[AllanB]

Even the badge looks a bit BMW!

[OddDuck]

Looks like some sort of Decepticon.

Took the words out of my mouth... bloody hell. There's no way I'd buy a bike that looked like that.

[NZsarge]

I'"m hoping it comes to NZ, would certainly like to see one in the flesh

[Trumpnut]

Looks like they stuffed the new R1 motor in it. I wonder if they changed the cam timing or somthing to up the torque for the MT line?

[AllanB]

Looks like they stuffed the new R1 motor in it. I wonder if they changed the cam timing or somthing to up the torque for the MT line?

It's a Japanese naked. It will be neutered .......

[george formby]

It's a Japanese naked. It will be neutered .......

Yeah. Apparently less HP but more bottom end torques. 160ish HP I read somewhere.

[pritch]

It's a Japanese naked. It will be neutered .......

Yeah but neutered on a naked bike ain't bad. It's good, it makes them more useful. The upper limit of cruising on a naked isn't much over 130kph, so at that speed you want to be into the meat of the torque. I'm not talking about cruising to the shops, think several hours.

The magazines usually complain about the neutering but when Yamaha actually listened and made an "entire" naked. When BIKE tested it as part of a group test nobody wanted to ride the thing. The testers said the engine was too peaky. That wouldn't have mattered though, if it had a slick gearbox and a good clutch, but it didn't.

Generally the manufacturers seem to know what they are doing. Bad bikes are rare, but that FZ6 was one such.

[george formby]

Yeah but neutered on a naked bike ain't bad. It's good, it makes them more useful. The upper limit of cruising on a naked isn't much over 130kph, so at that speed you want to be into the meat of the torque. I'm not talking about cruising to the shops, think several hours.



I agree, a nekkid 1000cc sprot bike with wide bars, fatter mid range, less rev happy.... Whats not to like? Apart from the looks. So prolly similar HP to a Tuono but from Yamaha.

[nzspokes]

I agree, a nekkid 1000cc sprot bike with wide bars, fatter mid range, less rev happy.... Whats not to like? Apart from the looks. So prolly similar HP to a Tuono but from Yamaha.

But will it sound as good as the Tuono?

[george formby]

But will it sound as good as the Tuono?

An excellent query. Unlikely.

[discotex]

An excellent query. Unlikely.

Cross plane IL4 sounds a lot like a V4 so they'll be close. The choice of slip-on will probably make the difference.

[Scubbo]

doubt it'd sound like an IL4 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ilyushin_Il-4)...

[Trumpnut]

Cross plane IL4 sounds a lot like a V4 so they'll be close. The choice of slip-on will probably make the difference.
I know the 2015 R1 with full exhaust have a real nice "bark" The cross pane has it's own sound for sure

[discotex]

Shit quality vid but enough of a tease to get ya going. The blue is way better than the renderings suggested it would be.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=w75LjBgaxdw

[EJK]

Shit quality vid but enough of a tease to get ya going. The blue is way better than the renderings suggested it would be.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=w75LjBgaxdw

Oh my......
http://i1.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/facebook/000/005/574/futurama.jpg

[discotex]

Oh my......

So much drooling

https://youtu.be/ep-Q7WGCh_w

[nzspokes]

Sounds ok. They seem to like it.

https://www.facebook.com/MotorcycleNews/videos/10153866892853855/

[discotex]

You heard the man... It's a jizz machine!!

http://youtu.be/QN1gK0w4M6E

[nzspokes]

Price indication in NZ yet?

[nzspokes]

He likes it

https://youtu.be/V44IxCY1_kU

[Scubbo]

does look spectacular, NZ price rumors?

[discotex]

Yamaha were at Playday a while back with the R1 and R6. I tried to get a launch date and price but they said they weren't set. Launch then wasn't imminent in NZ and when I asked if it would be spring I got a "cannot deny or confirm" answer. But they said they want it as soon as possible because they expect huge demand.

NZ is going into winter and overseas isn't though. So I'm guessing not before August.

By the look it should be a priced somewhere between the GSX-S1000/Z1000 and the S1000R/Tuono. So more than $18k and less than $25k.

My money is on it being about $22-23k. That compares to $27k for an R1 and $18k for the MT-09 Tracer.

[nzspokes]

Yamaha were at Playday a while back with the R1 and R6. I tried to get a launch date and price but they said they weren't set. Launch isn't imminent in NZ and when I asked if it would be spring I got a "cannot deny or confirm" answer. But they said they want it as soon as possible because they expect huge demand.

NZ is going into winter and overseas isn't though. So I'm guessing not before August.

By the look it should be a priced somewhere between the GSX-S1000/Z1000 and the S1000R/Tuono. So more than $18k and less than $25k.

My money is on it being about $22-23k. That compares to $27k for an R1 and $18k for the MT-09 Tracer.

Extra for a Tuono would be worth it then.

[discotex]

Extra for a Tuono would be worth it then.

Yamaha aren't shy pricing the R1 up close to the RSV4 and 1299 so I reckon they'll do the same with the MT-10. But I do hope I'm wrong.

If they have the inventory they would destroy the completion if it was priced at $20k.

[nzspokes]

Yamaha aren't shy pricing the R1 up close to the RSV4 and 1299 so I reckon they'll do the same with the MT-10. But I do hope I'm wrong.

If they have the inventory they would destroy the completion if it was priced at $20k.

The MT10 with panniers and a screen will be an almost KTM 1290 GT which will be 32k.

[discotex]

The MT10 with panniers and a screen will be an almost KTM 1290 GT which will be 32k.

Yeah but one is a wanky adventuresport crossover for 40+ dudes with disposable income and one isn't :)

[nzspokes]

Yeah but one is a wanky adventuresport crossover for 40+ dudes with disposable income and one isn't :)

Its the GT mate not the adventure one. This is the touring version of the 1290 SDR. https://www.ktm.com/sports-tourer/1290-super-duke-gt/?color=GREY

Would like to hear the MT10 with a proper pipe on it.

[discotex]

Its the GT mate not the adventure one. This is the touring version of the 1290 SDR. https://www.ktm.com/sports-tourer/1290-super-duke-gt/?color=GREY

Would like to hear the MT10 with a proper pipe on it.

Oh right that's not what I thought at all. I assumed it was going to be like the S1000XR but its actually closer to a regular SuperDuke. Pretty cool actually.

[nzspokes]

Oh right that's not what I thought at all. I assumed it was going to be like the S1000XR but its actually closer to a regular SuperDuke. Pretty cool actually.

Its a cumfy SDR I guess. MT10 is more in line with the Tuono I guess. But hopefully at a more affordable price point.

[pritch]

It's just possible you guys are being a tad pessimistic. The MT-09 goes for $14,000, maybe the MT-10 won't be too bad.

[EJK]

It's just possible you guys are being a tad pessimistic. The MT-09 goes for $14,000, maybe the MT-10 won't be too bad.

Maybe around $16-7k mark to rival GSXS1000? :-D

If so where do I pay a deposit!

[discotex]

It's just possible you guys are being a tad pessimistic. The MT-09 goes for $14,000, maybe the MT-10 won't be too bad.

Sure but that's with no ABS, no traction control, no slipper clutch, 45hp less power, budget bin suspension and the same bike as when it was launched.

Canadian R1 MSRP is $18999
Canadian FZ-10 MSRP is $15499

If we are the same percentage difference that would be $22k here for the MT-10.

On the other hand the MT-10 in the UK is positioned way cheaper than the R1 and just £300 more than the R6. So $20k is possible.

[AllanB]

They would be aware of the very keenly priced big bore Suzuki on the market.

[EJK]

People at Akra have been busy :)

[NZsarge]

But will it sound as good as the Tuono?

Out of the box probably not quite but if both had aftermarket cans I'd say the Yamaha would sound as good if not better (depending on the can of course).

[NZsarge]

People at Akra have been busy :)

Looks friggin' sweet! There are tons of genuine aftermarket parts for the straight out of the gate, still haven't heard if they're coming to New Zealand as yet... (?)

[NZsarge]

Sure but that's with no ABS, no traction control, no slipper clutch, 45hp less power, budget bin suspension and the same bike as when it was launched.

Canadian R1 MSRP is $18999
Canadian FZ-10 MSRP is $15499

If we are the same percentage difference that would be $22k here for the MT-10.

On the other hand the MT-10 in the UK is positioned way cheaper than the R1 and just £300 more than the R6. So $20k is possible.

Yeah the UK bike is said to be £5k cheap so I agree, between $20 and $22k

[nzspokes]

Yeah the UK bike is said to be £5k cheap so I agree, between $20 and $22k

The BMW S1000r is 22 with a akro pipe currently. Really good deal.

Asked again about when and how much for the MT10 and got a shrug of the shoulders.

[NZsarge]

The BMW S1000r is 22 with a akro pipe currently. Really good deal.

Asked again about when and how much for the MT10 and got a shrug of the shoulders.

Wow, $22k is very sharp for a 1000R, updated version due out?

[NZsarge]

Its the GT mate not the adventure one. This is the touring version of the 1290 SDR. https://www.ktm.com/sports-tourer/1290-super-duke-gt/?color=GREY

Would like to hear the MT10 with a proper pipe on it.

The 1290 GT is a very interesting bike but so it should be at $32k!
I'd assume/expect the MT-10 to sound very similar to the R1, based on that the Akra and Arrow pipes are among the best I've heard, Two Bros not bad either.

[nzspokes]

Wow, $22k is very sharp for a 1000R, updated version due out?

Looks to be a runout kinda deal. But the last year of a model is the best?

[aws]

Ever since I heard about this bike I've thought that the price needs to come in around $20K if it's going to become a big deal. Its predecessor, the FZ1, was a good bike, but just priced way too high over here to develop much popularity. Yamaha really seemed to have turned a corner when they released the MT-09 with such sharp pricing. I hope they can now follow through on that...

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[aws]

Its a cumfy SDR I guess. MT10 is more in line with the Tuono I guess. But hopefully at a more affordable price point.
I hope it's not more in line with the Tuono. The T is really just an RSV with less fairing and bars raised a little. If Yamaha have done their job right, and it looks like they have, this thing will have a shorter tank, more upright position and be a veritable torque monster.

I think more and more manufacturers are cottoning on to the fact that a super naked shouldn't just be an undressed superbike. It needs to be commuter comfortable with grunt for Africa right from idle. While moto journalists might all expect them to be naked superbikes, I think the real market for these bikes is somewhat different.

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[manxkiwi]

Just found out that a mate of mine in the UK is picking his up very early June (So, a week or two?).
He believes it'll be one of the first to land there. So not sure what this means regarding due date in NZ? But can't be too far off now.
I reckon it looks pretty awesome, even though big nakeds aren't really my thing. I'm sure heaps of folk will be very happy with it.

[george formby]

I hope it's not more in line with the Tuono. The T is really just an RSV with less fairing and bars raised a little. If Yamaha have done their job right, and it looks like they have, this thing will have a shorter tank, more upright position and be a veritable torque monster.

I think more and more manufacturers are cottoning on to the fact that a super naked shouldn't just be an undressed superbike. It needs to be commuter comfortable with grunt for Africa right from idle. While moto journalists might all expect them to be naked superbikes, I think the real market for these bikes is somewhat different.

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From what I've seen I don't think it lacks in torques. De-tuned to 160hp to increase bottom end and mid range. I think putting an aftermarket pipe on one would increase tire wear considerably.

[aws]

From what I've seen I don't think it lacks in torques. De-tuned to 160hp to increase bottom end and mid range. I think putting an aftermarket pipe on one would increase tire wear considerably.
Don't think of out as de-tuned. I prefer to call it "re-tuned". Re-tuned for torque! Or rather "mid-range" or "bottom-end" torque.

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[george formby]

Don't think of out as de-tuned. I prefer to call it "re-tuned". Re-tuned for torque! Or rather "mid-range" or "bottom-end" torque.

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Indeed. You put it more betterer.

[Scubbo]

sharp price for the baby version ! http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-1080892789.htm

was looking into a z300 for commuting now this comes along for 1K cheaper :drool:

[nzspokes]

sharp price for the baby version ! http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-1080892789.htm

was looking into a z300 for commuting now this comes along for 1K cheaper :drool:

My Boss just bought one. I will take it out at lunch time next week and "run it in".

[Maha]

My Boss just bought one. I will take it out at lunch time next week and "run it in".



Sat on one of these today, the SE model. Will test ride on Monday if not pissing down.



Like you may or may not have done before.

[nzspokes]

They sound good from this on board.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMiycxSLgeg

[AllanB]

They sound good from this on board.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMiycxSLgeg

Cross-plane engine - of course it sounds good.

Funny review - well done. Some interesting passing!

Quotes worth repeating:

10/10 - the mad side of Japan.

Torque - I like torque (still 160 bhp)

Anyone can make a beautiful motorcycle making it unique is difficult ......... :lol:


The last one reads: a ugly stick was severely whacked upon it in creation. However - wait until the Yamaha 'Yard Built' versions start appearing on the internet :cool:

If it is indeed a 10/10 or near the aftermarket will start supplying goodies to pretty her up.


I'd have to say regardless of personal opinion I have to hand it to Yammy for the bikes they have been releasing over the past few years - others have sat weathering out the global economy, Yamaha has stepped up and introduced bikes worth purchasing. Honda needs to wake up!

[Scubbo]

my boss just bought one. I will take it out at lunch time next week and "run it in".


how was it how was it how was it how was it????

[nzspokes]

sharp price for the baby version ! http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-1080892789.htm

was looking into a z300 for commuting now this comes along for 1K cheaper :drool:

So rode it today. What an epic wee bike. Really impressed. Would make a great commuter for a full licence holder that doesnt want to risk his good bike in traffic. Even has a little shift light. :niceone:

[nzspokes]

how was it how was it how was it how was it????

As above, really cool. Decent power in the lower rpm so you dont have to rev the nuts off it. Cumfy as well.

[Scubbo]

sounds sweet, will have to go test ride one :cool:

[RuoskaNZ]

Saw one of these in the flesh at the Field days, the black with yellow wheels. Looks like it is coming to NZ.
It looks absolutely beastly with the front end. And by the sounds of it the price is going to be very good.
I was looking to get an MT-09 but this thing is just fantastic to look at. Maybe need a test ride.

All the big YT reviewers have had a test and all seem to love it.

[nzspokes]

Saw one of these in the flesh at the Field days, the black with yellow wheels. Looks like it is coming to NZ.
It looks absolutely beastly with the front end. And by the sounds of it the price is going to be very good.
I was looking to get an MT-09 but this thing is just fantastic to look at. Maybe need a test ride.

All the big YT reviewers have had a test and all seem to love it.

Did they give a price?

[Pound]

Did they give a price?


All reports say it should be around the 20K mark.

[nzspokes]

All reports say it should be around the 20K mark.

Well if it is its a good price. We shall see if Yamaha ever bother to release it.

[MD]

I'm a happy chappie with my Z1000SX and can see me keeping it for another year or two easy. I'm mainly using it for commuting and some regular touring duties so it's spot on for what I need.

I can't think of any other 'reasonably' priced alternatives that catches my eye or suits my needs. But this MT10 seems to tick the same boxes that I like about the Zed. Just it's got more horses and maybe the looks work better in the flesh. The few pics I've found online with the panniers and higher screen look like they would do the job similar to the Zed. The MT10 bags do look a bit small though and are only cloth covered with zip closures only and I don't think the bags even 'lock' onto the bike. The Zeds are beaut, take 2 seconds to put them on or remove, fully integrated to bike with the ignition key locking them to frame and the lids.

[nzspokes]

I'm a happy chappie with my Z1000SX and can see me keeping it for another year or two easy. I'm mainly using it for commuting and some regular touring duties so it's spot on for what I need.

I can't think of any other 'reasonably' priced alternatives that catches my eye or suits my needs. But this MT10 seems to tick the same boxes that I like about the Zed. Just it's got more horses and maybe the looks work better in the flesh. The few pics I've found online with the panniers and higher screen look like they would do the job similar to the Zed. The MT10 bags do look a bit small though and are only cloth covered with zip closures only and I don't think the bags even 'lock' onto the bike. The Zeds are beaut, take 2 seconds to put them on or remove, fully integrated to bike with the ignition key locking them to frame and the lids.

It is a shame more thought is not put into luggage on these types of bikes. Something integrated like the SX would be cool. Some of us like to carry stuff when we go to work etc.

[nzspokes]

All reports say it should be around the 20K mark.

Yerp Confirmed from a dealer today at 20k. But only 5 coming in? :blink::facepalm:

[discotex]

That's awesome news. Great to see Yamaha price aggressively in line with the UK.

That's a shitload of bike for the money. I'm quite tempted to order one and deal with the fallout from the missus later.

[AllanB]

That's awesome news. Great to see Yamaha price aggressively in line with the UK.

That's a shitload of bike for the money. I'm quite tempted to order one and deal with the fallout from the missus later.

Do it. It may take her a month to notice the different bike anyway!

[discotex]

Do it. It may take her a month to notice the different bike anyway!

I'm planning on keeping the CBR for track duty so I think having two bikes in the garage might give the game away a bit quicker haha

[Gremlin]

Yerp Confirmed from a dealer today at 20k. But only 5 coming in? :blink::facepalm:
Apparently sales are strong, so there simply aren't enough...

KTM does similar every year. There is a shipment with x available. Once they're sold, that's it, you're waiting until a new shipment, normally the next year.

[nzspokes]

Apparently sales are strong, so there simply aren't enough...

KTM does similar every year. There is a shipment with x available. Once they're sold, that's it, you're waiting until a new shipment, normally the next year.

So they release a lot of hype about a new model, then only bring 5 into the country.:facepalm:

Least with KTM I can just go buy one, and BMW, and Aprilia.

And I bet they wont bother bringing in parts because there are only a few bikes here. No wonder Yamaha dont have a decent dealer up here. <_<

[AllanB]

And I bet they wont bother bringing in parts because there are only a few bikes here. No wonder Yamaha dont have a decent dealer up here. <_<

Just what I was thinking - 5 a year - who would stock decent parts?

Still. Nice to ride something exclusive.

[nzspokes]

Just what I was thinking - 5 a year - who would stock decent parts?

Still. Nice to ride something exclusive.

From the Yamaha dealer page now it sounds like more are coming in but not that many for this year. Will take a look at one tomorrow.

[george formby]

From the Yamaha dealer page now it sounds like more are coming in but not that many for this year. Will take a look at one tomorrow.

I think their is a good reason they are initially in short supply. Demand genuinely out strips supply. Bang for buck. Yamaha are betting on sales superiority to make their money, again. It's halcyon days for us. I own two elderly yammies and parts are not a problem. Consumables and, er, bent bits, for the MT10 won't be either.

If I was in the market for a Super Nekkid it would boil down to Tuono, S1000r, MT10. After test riding it would be Yam and Aprilia. After posting on here for a month and talking to the superior other it would be the Yam. Would I be disappointed? Nah, I'd be bricking it!:eek:

[GrayWolf]

I just wish they'd re-do the original, MT-01 but maybe using the 1900cc barrels from the stratoliner :first:

[AllanB]

I just wish they'd re-do the original, MT-01 but maybe using the 1900cc barrels from the stratoliner :first:

Needed to drop some serious weight, but I like your thinking. 1900cc? maybe not - just hot-rod the smaller engine. I keep thinking of that 2000cc Kawasaki cruiser that did not sell very well - too big?

[haydes55]

I keep thinking of that 2000cc Kawasaki cruiser that did not sell very well - too big?

Too ugly.

10 chars

[AllanB]

Too ugly.

10 chars

Possibly.


I do wonder why one of the Japanese makers has not produced a 1.8-2.0 l inline 4. A tyre shredding, earth spinning engine. Be a piece of piss to produce - OK somewhat wider than existing engines but with modern engine design it should still be narrower than the 80's super 4's

Why build one? What not is the real question!

[haydes55]

Possibly.


I do wonder why one of the Japanese makers has not produced a 1.8-2.0 l inline 4. A tyre shredding, earth spinning engine. Be a piece of piss to produce - OK somewhat wider than existing engines but with modern engine design it should still be narrower than the 80's super 4's

Why build one? What not is the real question!
No wider than a boxer engine, or an in line 6. Oval pistons, slimmer again. Or v4... O hey V max. Back to Yamaha.

[Ocean1]

I just wish they'd re-do the original, MT-01 but maybe using the 1900cc barrels from the stratoliner :first:

As usual, they never followed through...

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[GrayWolf]

Needed to drop some serious weight, but I like your thinking. 1900cc? maybe not - just hot-rod the smaller engine. I keep thinking of that 2000cc Kawasaki cruiser that did not sell very well - too big?

Having owned one, most of the weight is the friggin motor, it's bloody gigantic, air cooled etc. The frame was incredibly light diecast/forged ali, R1 cycle parts, titanium mufflers..
Taking into acount the MT 01 having a hot rodded Warrior motor. It was substantially up on the 'donor' about 30% increase, 95 bhp 110ft lbs... the strat has I think 90ft lbs and 100bhp... would make one hell of a launch out of corners on the projected MT 01 {1900} torque figures.

Oh the MT OS you pictured. There were aftermarket kits made {not yamaha} to turn an 01 into an OS.

Sadly yamaha shot their own foot with the 01, and now after it''s gone the MT 'family' has taken off.... but none of the new generation have that 'something' you either hated or loved in looks of the 01.

[aws]

Saw an MT-10 in the shop yesterday. Had a sit on it. Very comfortable relaxed seating position, although the tank feels a little wider than I'd like. I guess it just adds to the muscular feel. Looks OK in the flesh. That grey yellow paint scheme won't be everyone's cup of tea, but I guess it will achieve its aim of being noticed. It does seem a bit fiddly though with lots of little bits of plastic hanging off it all over the place. Unlikely any demos for a while. Yamaha didn't even trust dealer with the key!

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[nzspokes]

Saw an MT-10 in the shop yesterday. Had a sit on it. Very comfortable relaxed seating position, although the tank feels a little wider than I'd like. I guess it just adds to the muscular feel. Looks OK in the flesh. That grey yellow paint scheme won't be everyone's cup of tea, but I guess it will achieve its aim of being noticed. It does seem a bit fiddly though with lots of little bits of plastic hanging off it all over the place. Unlikely any demos for a while. Yamaha didn't even trust dealer with the key!

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Yeah the looks in the flesh let it down. I didnt mind the colour now but it would date very quickly. Looks and finish wise the New Speed triple kills the MT10.

[nadroj]

Field days demo on Yamaha stand.
Depends on what type of riding you are doing. I am finding the MT09 Tracer suites me & not tempted with the MT10.

[AllanB]

Field days demo on Yamaha stand.
Depends on what type of riding you are doing. I am finding the MT09 Tracer suites me & not tempted with the MT10.

WTF - it's not been ridden. Common Yamaha NZ you should have at least ripped up the tyres for the show.

[Bassmatt]

looks shit

https://s31.postimg.org/hu4qhd8az/568761a9_f99b_4a7b_b860_a43b19bdf2eb.jpg

[nzspokes]

looks shit



Amazed at that, unless Im reading it wrong by that the honda has the best fueling. And the Suzuki cleans up the MT for torque. S1000r is still the Daddy.

[AllanB]

Some wiggly lines on there! Look at the torque curves (the Honda has a curve the others ....) Still they power through the shit bits so fast who would notice. Bloody graph riding aye must make one better/worse .............

[EJK]

Oh boy look at that, bow down!

[MD]

Wow that chart is a pleasant surprise. my Zed is leading the charge all the way to 8,000rpm, almost to 9k.

Really expected a better result from the R1 motor. Funny how first news releases have you dribbling at the mouth. Oh I want that, I want that. Then facts start coming out of the woodwork and it's ..maybe, maybe, nah.
Read one tester saying ridden hard the MT10 tank is empty by 200km. Pointless owning one in my world then.

[discotex]

Looks a lot like this is the effect of having to meet Euro 4 for the MT-10 where the rest are Euro 3. Also wonder what mode it was in as the huge reduction in torque below 7k looks a lot like a rain mode to me.

[AllanB]

Read one tester saying ridden hard the MT10 tank is empty by 200km. Pointless owning one in my world then.


Ah - if actually riding 'hard' on a liter bike for 200 kms it would be time for a rest, or at least you'd either:

A. got away from the chasing cop(s)

B. fallen off

[nzspokes]

Wow that chart is a pleasant surprise. my Zed is leading the charge all the way to 8,000rpm, almost to 9k.

Really expected a better result from the R1 motor. Funny how first news releases have you dribbling at the mouth. Oh I want that, I want that. Then facts start coming out of the woodwork and it's ..maybe, maybe, nah.
Read one tester saying ridden hard the MT10 tank is empty by 200km. Pointless owning one in my world then.

I didnt know Dale did stuff for the Zeds, was talking to him and he posted the pulls he has done on them. Take a look at his site and the page for the Zeds. He gets great numbers out of them for not much $$

http://www.holeshot.com/

[EJK]

Saw it in person today (only one in Christchurch at the moment). OH MY GOD!!! It looks so much awesomer in real life!!!

Talked about trading-in my S1000RR. I told him I'll have a thought and get back to him.

OH MY GOD!!!

[nzspokes]

Saw it in person today (only one in Christchurch at the moment). OH MY GOD!!! It looks so much awesomer in real life!!!

Talked about trading-in my S1000RR. I told him I'll have a thought and get back to him.

OH MY GOD!!!

One thing struck we when I saw that photo.

They are trying thier best to overload that wall socket.

[AllanB]

Looks like the lower radiator has a factory stone shield. If so - about f-in time. well done Yammy.

[aws]

Looks like the lower radiator has a factory stone shield. If so - about f-in time. well done Yammy.
Was reading the Herald write up today and during their testing in Queensland they had to wait for a radiator repair due to stone damage. Why do manufacturers bother selling a product that is likely to fail unless it is modified?

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[avgas]

One thing struck we when I saw that photo.

They are trying thier best to overload that wall socket.
The one with the big warning sign? :clap::rofl:

Looks like the lower radiator has a factory stone shield. If so - about f-in time. well done Yammy.
Didn't all of them have that grill from like 2001 onwards?

[AllanB]

Was reading the Herald write up today and during their testing in Queensland they had to wait for a radiator repair due to stone damage. Why do manufacturers bother selling a product that is likely to fail unless it is modified?

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Heaps don't. My previous Honda had a factory plastic one. My Ducati had nothing - and the lower radiator is like that Yammy - asking for trouble. Ordered a pair ASAP and looking at a couple marks on the screen well worth the money.

[Jin]

Had a nosey at the matt black one at red baron in Auckland. Looks alright smaller than i thought it would be but a bit too plasticy for me. In 10 years it will probably be faded cracked and look like shit.

I think the guard at the bottom is for the oil cooler?

[FastR1Red]

Looks like this one might be the go.
I've been looking for something used but geez the amount of km's on every used bike I've seen and way too high prices, I may as well buy a new bike.

Red Baron are the only ones I know at the moment in Auckland....anywhere else I should go to haggle price?
I'm moving to Auckland from Australia this Sunday,,,woohoo.

[george formby]

Had a nosey at the matt black one at red baron in Auckland. Looks alright smaller than i thought it would be but a bit too plasticy for me. In 10 years it will probably be faded cracked and look like shit.

I think the guard at the bottom is for the oil cooler?

Dunno. I have two, 90's, yammies in the shed and the plastic looks great.

[AllanB]

A squirt of ArmorAll on the plastic every month and a wipe down and it will look good for decades. And you can get in original Gloss or Low Shine so you can match the factory finish :yes:

I have a box full of cleaning products for different applications .......... I have issues.

[george formby]

A squirt of ArmorAll on the plastic every month and a wipe down and it will look good for decades. And you can get in original Gloss or Low Shine so you can match the factory finish :yes:

I have a box full of cleaning products for different applications .......... I have issues.

Tissues, shirley?

I did sees a review of the MT10, cagerontwowheels, where he highlighted the broken plastic bits on the tail end of the bike. Flimsy plastic right where you swing your leg over. Personally, I would try to be more careful.

[Black Knight]

Delving into the interwebby thing there appears to be some mixed feelings about the MT10-Anyone looked at the MT-03 yet?-180KPH from a 300-Torque looks good and priced pretty right.Made in Thailand at Yam factory I understand.
I really like the formula one type flashing light strip that tells you when to change gear,gimiky?-maybe?
I was seriously looking at the MT-07 but now having a bit of a rethink.

[george formby]

Delving into the interwebby thing there appears to be some mixed feelings about the MT10-Anyone looked at the MT-03 yet?-180KPH from a 300-Torque looks good and priced pretty right.Made in Thailand at Yam factory I understand.
I really like the formula one type flashing light strip that tells you when to change gear,gimiky?-maybe?
I was seriously looking at the MT-07 but now having a bit of a rethink.

MT-07? Get a test ride and let me know what you think. It's very high on my list of lotto purchases for our local roads, well, the Tracer is.

[Asher]

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My mate turned up to a ride today on one.
Still not sure how I feel about them, I definitely don't like the head light but other than that it's a hell of a bike for $20k.

I think Yamaha has done really well with the MT line up. Every bike is similar but each are different enough to be desirable on its own.

[SVboy]

I saw the one Asher is talking about yesterday too. Didn't like the grey with Fluro wheels. Loved everything else..... Smaller in real life. Colour mine blue.....

[AllanB]

http://www.revzilla.com/common-tread/2017-yamaha-fz-10-first-ride-motorcycle-review?utm_source=Sailthru&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=7/30/2016&utm_term=Common%20Tread


American view.

[george formby]

American view.

Interesting review. The brakes cop flack but he had the ABS kicking in, not sure if it was front or rear, though.

[AllanB]

Interesting review. The brakes cop flack but he had the ABS kicking in, not sure if it was front or rear, though.


Agree - note about the master cylinder is interesting regarding brake 'feel'.

When did a 6,000 rpm start of grunt become 'midrange' - a 12k redline I'd state idle to 4k as bottom end, 4- 8k as midrange and 8 - redline as top end. But that's just me - divide by three.

[george formby]

Agree - note about the master cylinder is interesting regarding brake 'feel'.

When did a 6,000 rpm start of grunt become 'midrange' - a 12k redline I'd state idle to 4k as bottom end, 4- 8k as midrange and 8 - redline as top end. But that's just me - divide by three.



And I would agree.
Mentioning fuel economy, he said most of the test was in the top quarter of the rev range, 2nd and 3rd.... Gives a clue to riding style. I doubt that motor would be found wanting anywhere in the rev range and would probably be quicker and smoother over the ground in 3rd and 4th.


The more I read about Yamaha's new family, the more intrigued I get. His comments comparing the triple to the four are interesting, too.

I recall reading somewhere that the MT10 has standard brake hose, not braided. Personally, I like a bit of pre-load in my braking, gets the plot settled before the anchor goes out.

[george formby]

Socially appropriate.

https://youtu.be/vX6izS22BlI

Fastbikes mag stick on a new zorst..

Vid won't embed for some reason. UIE

[AllanB]

I do like the way those engines sound! And their triples for that matter.

[nzspokes]

I saw the one Asher is talking about yesterday too. Didn't like the grey with Fluro wheels. Loved everything else..... Smaller in real life. Colour mine blue.....

I didnt mind that colour. Grey looks way better in real life than in the photos.

[Bruce Lee]

Sold the MT09 and ordered an MT10 in race blue because it's the fastest. Any one else stump up the readies for one?

[Gremlin]

Sold the MT09 and ordered an MT10 in race blue because it's the fastest. Any one else stump up the readies for one?
Zapf did. Rear suspension is too soft, front too hard. He's just received a Nitron rear shock to try and sort.

[Bruce Lee]

Would like to hear how he finds the nitro. I'm still waiting patiently for the bike to arrive.

[Zapf]

Would like to hear how he finds the nitro. I'm still waiting patiently for the bike to arrive.

According to Dave Moss the factory suspension is setup wrong. And he is right.

Read this.... its for the R1 however most of it applies to the MT10 http://feelthetrack.com/testing-program/sportbike-models-tested/2015-r1-case-study/


Summary, the rear shock is beyond saving. Front suspension is too stiff. I am hoping with a good rear shock I can find a balance that works with the factory front so I don't have to spend pennies on front suspension.

Yesterday had the Nitron installed by Motorcycle works out in East tamiki. On the way home the shock feels HEAPS better already, the kick in the backside is gone and already feel more confident inspiring.

Tomorrow I will go on a tuning ride out the country side to dial them in.... will write more after tomorrow.

[Blackbird]

Yesterday had the Nitron installed by Motorcycle works out in East tamiki. On the way home the shock feels HEAPS better already, the kick in the backside is gone and already feel more confident inspiring.

Tomorrow I will go on a tuning ride out the country side to dial them in.... will write more after tomorrow.

I had the same issue with my Street Triple and purchased a Nitron rear unit set up for my weight and use from Robert Taylor. It was near-perfect out of the box and the difference was huge. I reckon that they're comparable with more expensive shocks for a lot less. I had a Penske on my Blackbird and whilst it was outstanding, it was also bloody expensive. I'd forget about bling and a noisy end can for a road bike. A suspension upgrade will do a heap more for you!

[Gremlin]

I had the same issue with my Street Triple and purchased a Nitron rear unit set up for my weight and use from Robert Taylor. It was near-perfect out of the box and the difference was huge. I reckon that they're comparable with more expensive shocks for a lot less. I had a Penske on my Blackbird and whilst it was outstanding, it was also bloody expensive. I'd forget about bling and a noisy end can for a road bike. A suspension upgrade will do a heap more for you!
He's cheaped out this time, considering all his other bikes had Ohlins :laugh:

[AllanB]

He's cheaped out this time, considering all his other bikes had Ohlins :laugh:

Leaves more money for a noisy end can :2thumbsup

[Big Dog]

He's cheaped out this time, considering all his other bikes had Ohlins [emoji23]
Or is that a sign he is close enough to happy with the handling of this one?

When I make fast sweeping changes it is because I cannot live with something. E.g. my last two bikes got higher wider bars within the fortnight.
On the other hand the levers I found occasionally irritating got updated after 2 and a half years of putting up with thinking the curve on them was too radical. Only an issue in the cold or on very long rides.

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[Bruce Lee]

I had the same issue with my Street Triple and purchased a Nitron rear unit set up for my weight and use from Robert Taylor. It was near-perfect out of the box and the difference was huge. I reckon that they're comparable with more expensive shocks for a lot less. I had a Penske on my Blackbird and whilst it was outstanding, it was also bloody expensive. I'd forget about bling and a noisy end can for a road bike. A suspension upgrade will do a heap more for you!

What's the rough cost for a nitron rear set?

[Blackbird]

What's the rough cost for a nitron rear set?

When I bought mine for the Triple about 3 years ago, it was about $1000 delivered, valved and sprung for my specific needs. It was the basic model without the remote reservoir but worth every cent. Absolutely fine for road use.

[pritch]

I had a discussion once with well known racer, he looked at my Ohlins with remote reservoir and adjustable compression damping and commented that he didn't see that as being necessary.
"Once the suspension is set up, it's set up."

He was informed that this time I might be solo, next time I might have a passenger, another time both a passenger and luggage. (Should I get so lucky.)
He then understood that racing was relatively uncomplicated in comparison to the serious business of riding on the road. :whistle:

[nzspokes]

I had a discussion once with well known racer, he looked at my Ohlins with remote reservoir and adjustable compression damping and commented that he didn't see that as being necessary.
"Once the suspension is set up, it's set up."

He was informed that this time I might be solo, next time I might have a passenger, another time both a passenger and luggage. (Should I get so lucky.)
He then understood that racing was relatively uncomplicated in comparison to the serious business of riding on the road. :whistle:

Disagree with that, one thing I got from Dave Moss was how much setup changed through the day.

[mossy1200]

Disagree with that, one thing I got from Dave Moss was how much setup changed through the day.

I just rode mine until just past the grip stopped happening because I wasn't very flash anyway.

[Bruce Lee]

My rocket ship has finally arrived. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170406/d3b659594f982a9e8705cda88ac24374.jpg

[EJK]

Oh my God that looks awesome!

[Mike.Gayner]

Aesthetically, Yamaha have lost their way.

[Bruce Lee]

Aesthetically, Yamaha have lost their way.

That was my thoughts when I originally saw the MT-10. I can say now that the looks have grown on me considerably. Maybe I just really wanted to like the bike to justify its purchase, however I really do like the look a lot especially in blue which I was happy to wait 2 months for.

[aws]

My rocket ship has finally arrived. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170406/d3b659594f982a9e8705cda88ac24374.jpg
I saw your bike downstairs yesterday. It's amazing how much better that bike looks with a decent paint job!

How does the Acro sound?

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[Bruce Lee]

I saw your bike downstairs yesterday. It's amazing how much better that bike looks with a decent paint job!

How does the Acro sound?

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Still breaking her in and getting used to the Acro tone. On my MT09 I had a Yoshi which had a deeper throaty sound.

[mossy1200]

Normally I like to point out the ugly but I do like the look and the colour. :banana::banana::banana:

[biketimus_prime]

I test rode one at red baron a few months ago. It is definitely the bike I want to end up riding 5ever. I just can't justify 20k brand new. I'm hoping a few first gens will sell for round 13k in a few years and I can get on the bandwagon then.

[AllanB]

Only a mother would love it's face.

[aws]

What I'd like to see is an XSR1200 with a bored out version of that R1 motor in a retro package.

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[haydes55]

I saw one riding past waikato hospital yesterday morning. The pipe mustn't have been stock because it sounded like an absolute animal. Looked nice in motion. Only part I'm not a fan of is the actual MT-10 logo. I'd peel that off if it was my bike.

[pritch]

It looks cool and I'd be proud to ride it. Enjoy. :2thumbsup

[caspernz]

The MT-10 just needs more weight up front, for it seems awfully keen to wheelie...at least if my observations count for anything. Not sold on the look myself, but who cares? If it's fun to ride...:sunny::laugh:

[Bruce Lee]

The MT-10 just needs more weight up front, for it seems awfully keen to wheelie...at least if my observations count for anything. Not sold on the look myself, but who cares? If it's fun to ride...:sunny::laugh:

I can't do wheelies for shit so there's hope for me, think the traction control cancels it out somewhat