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Jonty
26th September 2005, 13:40
Hi all,
does anyone profess to know much about Scott oilers? I have noticed that mine has been leaking a bit of oil around the compartment it sits in and has stopped pumping oil through. It is running low on oil, but I would have thought that it would need to be completely empty before it stopped. I had a quick look for the leak but couldn't see one (requires some major bolt removal to get the damned seat off).
Cheers
Blackbird
26th September 2005, 17:38
Is there an air bubble in the line somewhere? Alternatively, is there any oil in the line at all? The reason I ask the latter question is that my supply pipe once developed a hairline crack at the oiler outlet and let ait in stopping the flow.
Firstly though, you should turn it to prime position with the engine running of course (turn the metering screw all the way round and this manually lifts the valve assembly) and the oil should fair rip through. If it doesn't you should then start looking for air bubbles etc.
Another possibility is that your vacuum line has become blocked or detached. Difficult to know without seeing it. I know there are a number of KB'ers in Wtgn with them and I'm sure they'd take a look if you're not familiar with them.
Geoff
Jonty
26th September 2005, 18:55
Is there an air bubble in the line somewhere? Alternatively, is there any oil in the line at all? The reason I ask the latter question is that my supply pipe once developed a hairline crack at the oiler outlet and let ait in stopping the flow.
Firstly though, you should turn it to prime position with the engine running of course (turn the metering screw all the way round and this manually lifts the valve assembly) and the oil should fair rip through. If it doesn't you should then start looking for air bubbles etc.
Another possibility is that your vacuum line has become blocked or detached. Difficult to know without seeing it. I know there are a number of KB'ers in Wtgn with them and I'm sure they'd take a look if you're not familiar with them.
Geoff
Thanks Geoff
I think it will be a case of getting the seat off this weekend and having a good look. If no joy then have a warrant coming up so will get the lads to take a look and use chain lube in the mean time.
Thanks
Blackbird
26th September 2005, 19:53
Thanks Geoff
I think it will be a case of getting the seat off this weekend and having a good look. If no joy then have a warrant coming up so will get the lads to take a look and use chain lube in the mean time.
Thanks
No worries. I've attached an article which a friend of mine in the UK wrote on installing a Scottoiler on his Blackbird. It will obviously be a little different from your CBR 600, but I thought that it might give you an idea of some of the "plumbing" for general background.
LB
28th September 2005, 05:27
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Hamish and I have Scottoilers fitted to our bikes (apart from Hamish's BMW obviously!). If you like I can get Hamish to have a look - he's not a mechanic but he's quite clued up. (Must be to have married me!!)
Flick me an email to work (do you still have my address?) to let me know.
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pritch
12th February 2006, 09:57
Late last year I bought a Scott Oiler to go with my new chain (having read rave reviews on KiwiBiker) , the twin injector version, it was fitted by the shop while the bike was in for a service. On my run up to Orere at Christmas via SH22 and the Mangatawhiri/Clevedon Road I had an ?adventure? that resulted in the unit being wiped of the bottom of the swing arm. Nobody's fault really just one of those things...
(Which may be translated as ?my fault? if anybody's.)
So I bought a new twin injector unit, I also mentioned to the mechanic that the thing was forever losing adjustment and dropping the oil in places other than intended. Whatever he did worked for a while. Just before heading East the other day I thought it might be an idea to check that things were performing as they should and Hellooo! No injector nibs. God knows where they went. So I made two new nibs and off I went.
We are now back to the situation where I check the nibs every time I stop for gas and push them back down to where they are meant to be. But presumably the first bump I go over readjusts them, so most of the time the oil delivery is to places other than intended.
This is all something of an expensive pain in the arse. Is this normal, or do you guys who use them just ?set and forget? ?
Comments from experienced users would be most welcome.
Comments from users of shafts or rubberbands would be gratuitous ... :-)
Blackbird
12th February 2006, 13:12
I have a single outlet which delivers oil onto the sprocket face and the inner link and never have to adjust position, it never moves. The only thing I have to do is turn it down a whole lot in the summer. I found that to get the 1-2 drops/minute recommended during winter running, it had to be at position 5 on the flow adjuster. I can get the same flow rate at position 3 in the warmer months but believe it's too much as the oil fling weeps down one side of my centre stand. The manufacturers are probably covering themselves recomendinf an over-generous flow. Have now cut it to one drop every two minutes (measured when everything is warm) and the chain is still well-lubed.
mangell6
12th February 2006, 15:28
Must go and check mine, haven't looked at my scottoiler for ages. Like BB I have the single nozzle version and it is set and voila has been left alone. What you describe suggests that something has not been installed quite right, minor adjustment needed. You could contact the ScottOiler people in Scotland.
Pickle
12th February 2006, 18:59
Pitch my wife and I both have the twin injector systems on our ZX6's and they have basiclly been set & forget. It sounds like your pivot bolt needs to be tightened, the bit the injector mounts to.
Jonty check the line like Blackbird said, Im glad Linda said get Hamish to check it so now I dont have to volunteer.
Jantar
12th February 2006, 19:07
I have also never had any problem with the oil delivery nib. Like Blackbirds, mine is set to deliver oil to the inside of the chain right next to the sprocket face. I have found that a setting of 1 drop every 40 - 50 seconds is about right, but then I probably do a bit more gravel road riding than most sports bike riders. I also have to alter the setting with temperature as the oil viscosity does seem to be temperature sesitive.
I recently replace chain and sprockets at 26,000 km. Its a big improvemnt on the 6000 - 8000 km I used to get.
Leong
12th February 2006, 20:23
We are now back to the situation where I check the nibs every time I stop for gas and push them back down to where they are meant to be. But presumably the first bump I go over readjusts them, so most of the time the oil delivery is to places other than intended.
I had a scott oiler fitted recently, and lost the delivery nib on my first trip out of town. Mine is the single nib and in my case the stiff tubing with the bend in it wasn't securely fastened, and I guess the nib could have moved and come off. I used the supplied tubing holders (still in the box), got a new nib and haven't had a problem since. Not sure why it wasn't used in the first place.....
NordieBoy
12th February 2006, 20:55
Both Nordies have got them.
The fun one has been around a motorcross track and out on trail rides down firebreaks, through scrub and gorse etc and only gets adjusted when I put the wheel back in after a new tyre.
The nib has never even looked like moving around or coming out.
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