Suzuki GSX S1000

[sinned]

This looks like a winner for Suzuki in both naked and faired versions. My next bike is looking to be a GSX S1000FA.

On display in Red Baron in the Hutt.

[AllanB]

The FA stands for Fuck All.

[Blackbird]

Very pleased with my GSX-S 1000 so far, a lot of bang for the $$. The motor is quite lumpy and a bit snatchy at low throttle openings but I can live with it. OEM D214's will be worn out by 3000 km and likely be replaced with PR4's. To be honest, for everyday use, it's not a major leap ahead of my Street Triple but it sure is fun :laugh:

[boman]

Very pleased with my GSX-S 1000 so far, a lot of bang for the $$. The motor is quite lumpy and a bit snatchy at low throttle openings but I can live with it. OEM D214's will be worn out by 3000 km and likely be replaced with PR4's. To be honest, for everyday use, it's not a major leap ahead of my Street Triple but it sure is fun :laugh:

My old Suzuki Thou benefited immensely from a K&N air filter. It totally smoothed out the snatchyness in the throttle.

[Mike.Gayner]

I love the new naked one. Great bike for the money.

[skippa1]

This looks like a winner for Suzuki in both naked and faired versions. My next bike is looking to be a GSX S1000FA.

On display in Red Baron in the Hutt.
Nice bikes for sure

[AllanB]

Here's a thought - is this the 'new' Bandit?

[nzspokes]

Here's a thought - is this the 'new' Bandit?

No because there is a "new" Bandit. Which is the same as the old one with uglier plastics.

[Blackbird]

My old Suzuki Thou benefited immensely from a K&N air filter. It totally smoothed out the snatchyness in the throttle.

Thanks for that - sounds more economic than a Power Commander!

[mulletman]

Thanks for that - sounds more economic than a Power Commander!

How bout a Teka tune or re-flash ? :scratch:

[Blackbird]

How bout a Teka tune or re-flash ? :scratch:

Yep, a re-flash might do it, thanks for the reminder. Apparently, they run a bit on the lean side at low throttle openings , partially to meet international emissions testing. I can live with it as the bike is a cracker to ride but if there's a fairly straightforward fix, I'd get it done.

[SVboy]

The FA stands for Fuck All.

Compared to the running costs and purchase price of a Ducati, I guess you are right.......

[Moise]

Some dealers have the 2015 Gixxer for a grand more. I know which I'd prefer ...

[Mike.Gayner]

Some dealers have the 2015 Gixxer for a grand more. I know which I'd prefer ...

I know which I'd prefer too - the one I can comfortably spend all day on.

[AllanB]

Compared to the running costs and purchase price of a Ducati, I guess you are right.......

Haha - remains to be seen. I'll let you know. First service no different to any Japper I have owned. Belts and vslves are not done until 24,000 and appears to be about the same cost as doing the valves on the Hornet. 12,000 km service intervals (oil/filter). Their latest engines have 15k and 30k for major. Provided nothin goes pop it will cost no more than my Honda.

Is Suzuki still dictating 6,000 km service intervals in NZ? I see they are trying to be a bit Italian too - with dodge low speed fueling :-)

[Blackbird]

Is Suzuki still dictating 6,000 km service intervals in NZ? I see they are trying to be a bit Italian too - with dodge low speed fueling :-)

Allan - 1000 km first service, next one 12,000 km. I'll do an oil and filter change in the middle though. A lot of bikes have got dips in their power curves these days due to having to meet international emission laws. Mike Gayner mentions comfort. On the delivery trip back from Auckland, my arse ached pretty badly before I got home. Since that trip, it's turned out to be more comfortable arse-wise than my Street Triple! Guess it's a combination of my arse re-shaping itself and the seat bedding itself in a bit too :spanking:

[Erelyes]

Thank god you got the nekkid-ish version. The faired one is most unfortunate looking. Glad to hear it's a good ride though.

[Blackbird]

Thank god you got the nekkid-ish version. The faired one is most unfortunate looking. Glad to hear it's a good ride though.

I don't think the faired one is too bad. The front is a bit pointy, but having owned a Blackbird, I got used to being called Beaky :laugh:

It was riding a Honda X-11 belonging to a friend which turned me on to naked bikes. It helped to keep my speed down for one thing but it's nice just being out in the open air. I've got a Suzuki flyscreen on back order but that's as much for looks as protection. The outstanding job is to set the suspension up properly for my weight and the sort of roads I use most. It's a bit too harsh at present but is fine on smoother roads.

[AllanB]

Allan - 1000 km first service, next one 12,000 km. I'll do an oil and filter change in the middle though. A lot of bikes have got dips in their power curves these days due to having to meet international emission laws. Mike Gayner mentions comfort. On the delivery trip back from Auckland, my arse ached pretty badly before I got home. Since that trip, it's turned out to be more comfortable arse-wise than my Street Triple! Guess it's a combination of my arse re-shaping itself and the seat bedding itself in a bit too :spanking:

Pretty standard service intervals now. I hear you regarding a 6 k change - probably just my age but used to earlier intervals for oil and it is cheap insurance.

Comfort is a subjective thing - different person on the same bike can disagree. I could not believe how firm the Ducati seat was when test riding (coming off the Hornet), but it is proving OK so far and on par. Just a different feel.

I think they should install a small switch on the ECU - factory setting and 'race' (or similar) the only difference is it changes two maps - one to meet emissions, one the ideal map. They could cover their arses with all types of stickers and blurbs in the owners manual saying it is for off road use only :2thumbsup

[Mike.Gayner]

probably just my age but used to earlier intervals for oil and it is cheap insurance.

It's expensive insurance if it doesn't do anything. Personally I don't want to put a single extra unnecessary cent in the oil company's pockets, so I'll trust the engineers with their intervals.

[AllanB]

Depends on what your dealer is putting in the engine. Most use a semi-synthetic in their workshops but you may find the bike maker has based the 12 - 15 k service intervals on a full synthetic.

[Blackbird]

Pretty standard service intervals now. I hear you regarding a 6 k change - probably just my age but used to earlier intervals for oil and it is cheap insurance.

Comfort is a subjective thing - different person on the same bike can disagree. I could not believe how firm the Ducati seat was when test riding (coming off the Hornet), but it is proving OK so far and on par. Just a different feel.

I think they should install a small switch on the ECU - factory setting and 'race' (or similar) the only difference is it changes two maps - one to meet emissions, one the ideal map. They could cover their arses with all types of stickers and blurbs in the owners manual saying it is for off road use only :2thumbsup

Yep, my age has a lot to do with it too and as you say, it's cheap insurance.

Absolutely, a huge variation in human arses! And a firm seat definitely doesn't mean uncomfortable. The Rider brand seat made for the Blackbird was very firm and I could ride for any amount of time and not get sore.

Haha - yep! Actually, the 3 traction control settings do change the engine characteristics and it is a bit smoother in rain mode. Haven't seen the need (or had the nerve) to turn it off as my name's not Rossi :innocent:

[Moise]

I know which I'd prefer too - the one I can comfortably spend all day on.
I have a lower back problem and find that sportsbikes can be more comfortable than nakeds or tourers. But some of the newer sports bikes are too cramped.

[Owl]

Depends on what your dealer is putting in the engine. Most use a semi-synthetic in their workshops but you may find the bike maker has based the 12 - 15 k service intervals on a full synthetic.

Absolutely and exactly what was done to my bike last week during its 15K service. They are aware I won't allow the bike to do 15K without an interim oil change, so hence the semi-synth. Next service (30K) I'll be supplying the oil....and spark plugs.

[nzspokes]

I have a lower back problem and find that sportsbikes can be more comfortable than nakeds or tourers. But some of the newer sports bikes are too cramped.

Bike has to look like the rider, so what works for you works. I have lowered pegs on my sports bike and it works a treat.

[sinned]

A GSX S1000F will be my next motorcycle. Photo of demo from Hastings Suzuki.

[Blackbird]

A GSX S1000F will be my next motorcycle. Photo of demo from Hastings Suzuki.

Great stuff. :Punk:

I'd recommend some crash protectors at an early juncture. I fitted R&G on my naked one. About 2 weeks after taking delivery, I managed to stall the bugger whilst leaned over and it was past the point of no return for my short legs :facepalm:. Had to step off it and the protector did its job!

[AllanB]

A GSX S1000F will be my next motorcycle. Photo of demo from Hastings Suzuki.

I'm a huge naked bike fan. However while on Holiday two weeks back the Suzuki dealer at Motuekua has one of each parked out front for sale (surprised me as they usually only have dirt and Stroms in stock when I'm up there).

The fairing one is a looker and not overly plastic. Looks ideal for NZ roads if you are planning on some good trips.

[nzspokes]

The fairing one is a looker and not overly plastic. Looks ideal for NZ roads if you are planning on some good trips.

Dont they lack a bit on luggage options?

[Blackbird]

Dont they lack a bit on luggage options?
Ventura have a system, there's one from Hepco and Becker and the Oxford throwovers that I have also work well!

[AllanB]

Dont they lack a bit on luggage options?

$18k new out of the box you can afford some soft luggage :yes: mind you the tail end is a short one.

[Blackbird]

$18k new out of the box you can afford some soft luggage :yes: mind you the tail end is a short one.

Absolutely! It is a naked sport after all so touring is going to be a solo affair unless you want to cripple the passenger. My expandable Oxfords are a shade shy of 50 litres at maximum capacity and I have a yachting dry bag of around 15 litres to bungee on the top. That's sufficicient for a few days away without doing any washing :rolleyes:

[sinned]

Kriega has a small range of luggage options for the tail. I purchased a Kriega back pack a few years ago and was impressed with the quality and functionality. A Kriega 20 + 10 tail pack combo arrived a week ago in preparation for .....

[sinned]

Kriega has a small range of luggage options for the tail. I purchased a Kriega back pack a few years ago and was impressed with the quality and functionality. A Kriega 20 + 10 tail pack combo arrived a week ago in preparation for .....

Yep got the bike and Kriega combo. Good luggage and the GSX S - may not be a super bike or have all the fruit of the exotic breeds but is great value for money and it sure goes, rides, tracks and has good sound. Will do me for a while :yes:.

[Berg]

Hopefully link to pic works. Fitted Mrs Berg's new GSX-s with Ventura rack brackets. Then get a sport rack, cut the top bar off it, weld in some bars and bolt a top box on. Works a charm
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/asset.php?fid=287198&uid=30220&d=1463987659http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/asset.php?fid=287198&uid=30220&d=1463987659

[nzspokes]

Hopefully link to pic works. Fitted Mrs Berg's new GSX-s with Ventura rack brackets. Then get a sport rack, cut the top bar off it, weld in some bars and bolt a top box on. Works a charm
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/asset.php?fid=287198&uid=30220&d=1463987659http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/asset.php?fid=287198&uid=30220&d=1463987659

Careful with the sport rack, with a top box on them they snap. Ive got 4 or 5 broken ones in the shed.

Photo didnt work.

[nzspokes]

So have heard Dale Walker of Holeshot performance has bought on of these to sort the fueling. His kits are normally a great price and dont have the faffing about of a Power commander.

He has only just run it in and this is its first time on the Dyno. Oh dear.....

But if he can pull 150hp out of a 1250 TNAB then he will get this sorted.

https://youtu.be/mSXCCo6ovSw

[Blackbird]

So have heard Dale Walker of Holeshot performance has bought on of these to sort the fueling. His kits are normally a great price and dont have the faffing about of a Power commander.

He has only just run it in and this is its first time on the Dyno. Oh dear.....

But if he can pull 150hp out of a 1250 TNAB then he will get this sorted.

https://youtu.be/mSXCCo6ovSw

The fuelling problem is not universal. Mine's a bit lumpy at the bottom end but it's not a major issue. Suzuki Australia are fitting a new ECU to owners who are having problems. There are several other options which help too, including an inexpensive throttle tamer. Personally, mine can stay as it is.

[nzspokes]

The fuelling problem is not universal. Mine's a bit lumpy at the bottom end but it's not a major issue. Suzuki Australia are fitting a new ECU to owners who are having problems. There are several other options which help too, including an inexpensive throttle tamer. Personally, mine can stay as it is.

Throttle tamer is a mask to the fueling problem. A proper fix to the A/f ratio will sort the throttle response and find power and economy. Bikes that have been sorted with a PC are said to not flash the TC anything like as much. Dales Boxes tend to be $270ish USD.

[nzspokes]

The fuelling problem is not universal. Mine's a bit lumpy at the bottom end but it's not a major issue. Suzuki Australia are fitting a new ECU to owners who are having problems. There are several other options which help too, including an inexpensive throttle tamer. Personally, mine can stay as it is.

Dale has the snatch sorted, and has pulled it from 138hp to 153hp.

https://youtu.be/fSHboIB1n1A

https://youtu.be/avZikH-tC80

This thing is now properly quick and smooth. Shame Suzuki cant just sell it that way. Few weeks and the kits will be for sale.

[Bassmatt]

It seems they are coming out of the factory with the tps set 'incorrectly'.
Adjusting this removes 99% of the throttle snatch in my experience.

[Blackbird]

It seems they are coming out of the factory with the tps set 'incorrectly'.
Adjusting this removes 99% of the throttle snatch in my experience.

Haven't done anything with mine. It's lumpy at the bottom end but no worse than my Street Triple originally was. Given the number of ECU replacements which have happened in other countries, wonder if anything will happen in NZ approaching a general recall?

[AllanB]

Dale has the snatch sorted, and has pulled it from 138hp to 153hp.

https://youtu.be/fSHboIB1n1A

https://youtu.be/avZikH-tC80

This thing is now properly quick and smooth. Shame Suzuki cant just sell it that way. Few weeks and the kits will be for sale.



That man is a wizard with his street going Suzukis.

[nzspokes]

That man is a wizard with his street going Suzukis.

He has done over 170 dyno runs on it so far. The Supertune for my GSX1250FA is perfect.

[Bassmatt]

Haven't done anything with mine. It's lumpy at the bottom end but no worse than my Street Triple originally was. Given the number of ECU replacements which have happened in other countries, wonder if anything will happen in NZ approaching a general recall?

I enquired about a replacement ecu when I first heard about it, got fobbed off basically, but have heard of someone in NZ getting one, there's no chance of a recall imo.
I've adjusted the tps on mine - its a different bike.

[Blackbird]

I enquired about a replacement ecu when I first heard about it, got fobbed off basically, but have heard of someone in NZ getting one, there's no chance of a recall imo.
I've adjusted the tps on mine - its a different bike.

Not surprised about being fobbed off - Boyds in Hamilton said that Suzuki NZ are not that good in terms of communications. Well done re the TPS - is there a written process anywhere?

[SVboy]

My mate with the gsx has added a PCV, custom map. Did not fix the fueling. Tips adjusted nope.has the replacement ecu, nope. He is pinning his hopes on a flash tune frome Aussie, I think. Could be the guy in the clips?

[Bassmatt]

Not surprised about being fobbed off - Boyds in Hamilton said that Suzuki NZ are not that good in terms of communications. Well done re the TPS - is there a written process anywhere?

Theres a fairly big thread on the gsxs forum with instructions on adjusting tps .

[Blackbird]

Thanks for that - it's quite a while since I've been on the forum other than a quick scan.

[nzspokes]

Looks like a recall on some of them.

http://www.suzukicycles.com/~/media/Recalls/Safety%20Recall%20Campaign%202A48%20GSXS1000%20Fro nt%20Brake%20Caliper%20Customer%20Lette.pdf