Sooo, does it live up to the hype (Star Wars: The Force Awakens)? [Archive]

EJK

17th December 2015, 15:04

Is USS Enterprise in the movie :shifty:

But honestly, there is nothing can be be spoiled. I already know Vader is (was) father of Luke!

Is Kylo Ren son of Luke and Rey, whom is daughter of Han Solo?

Looking forward to seeing it. It would be hard to fuck up a starwars film.

Christ! Obviously you haven't seen Episode I! (I actually enjoyed it because Liam Neeson was in it and I just forgive Episode I for "Duel of the fates" by John Williams).

PrincessBandit

17th December 2015, 15:19

Ewoks on Endor.
Jar-Jar Binks
Do Not Want!

Also - Mods - can we enforce Spoiler tags in this thread?

A nice haiku! (Better than the "there once was a paraglider named Steve" limmericks).
As for spoiler alerts, spoilers will be popping up everywhere now. Given the "alerts" already in this thread I think you'll be quite safe :msn-wink: But just to be extra sure I'll be avoiding this thread now till after Friday night !

EJK

17th December 2015, 15:26

If you are using Google Chrome browser, search on google for "Chrome Force Block". Might help filtering browser with "Star Wars" keywords.

HenryDorsetCase

17th December 2015, 15:30

Dumbledore dies.

*spoiler alert*

:bleh:

Looking forward to seeing it. It would be hard to fuck up a starwars film.

You've never seen THE PHANTOM PILE OF SHITE I take it?

TheDemonLord

17th December 2015, 16:17

A nice haiku! (Better than the "there once was a paraglider named Steve" limmericks).

The sad part is - I wasn't trying to write a Haiku - and now that I look at it, you are right! it is some inspired work.

The force works in mysterious ways....

AllanB

17th December 2015, 17:59

When I was at intermediate school, I won tickets to the first screening of 'Star Wars'. I had to dial (ask your mum) up the radio station and be caller number X.

The theater had put in a surround sound system (new in NZ) just for the movie.

Shit it was impressive.

All movies since have not lived up to the original experience way back in 19 something something........

I'll see this one. But the tech is now expected and common place (last new thing was 3D that has not taken off) so expectations are very high for visuals. So unless the story line is exceptional it will only be average.

Talking of story lines the original was pretty lame in retrospect - nothing new, bit of a fairy tale really. HOWEVER the visual impact of the imagery was very fresh and the 'ride' exciting.

I struggle to get a similar buzz from movies now days.

Voltaire

17th December 2015, 18:23

You've never seen THE PHANTOM PILE OF SHITE I take it?

Was that the one with Remuera Morrisson in it?, I took the kids and fell asleep.

I read the book on the school bus from Silverdale to Takapuna, pretty light on story compared to the School stuff like Mcbeth... actually probably the same story

I remember the original playing at the Cinerama in Queen St and being 1977 and being punk...or new wave...can't remember and all not going to see it.

AllanB

17th December 2015, 18:54

Gremlin

17th December 2015, 18:58

1977? Jesus wept I don't think I'd even had a wank then! No wonder the sight of the Princess in that bra/top gave me a stiffy (Stiffy is period correct talk for a hard-on, hard-on being later talk for a boner .....)
The "floppy" drives were actually stiffies... but everyone giggles at that. :rolleyes: The actual floppies were earlier.

I'm actually delivering a stiffy drive to a client tonight, they need to review some disks after they told me to keep a PC with a drive...

J.A.W.

17th December 2015, 19:15

1977? Jesus wept I don't think I'd even had a wank then! No wonder the sight of the Princess in that bra/top gave me a stiffy (Stiffy is period correct talk for a hard-on, hard-on being later talk for a boner .....)

Look G, & notwithstanding your creepy/pervy over-familiarity/sexual self-disclosure.. a couple of points.. FYI,

1, 'Hard-ons' is the name of an good old school `70s punk band ( & Volteface was obviously never a punk rocker, even if he's always been a punk)..

2, Yeah, although Star Wars was ludicrous kiddy crap, that BDSM scene of the - then hot - scantity-clad Jewish princess giving da Hutt auto-erotic service was..
.. a stand-up sequence.. & I aint ashamed to note that when it was shown on the box in hi-def the other night, I recorded that bit.. of.. classic sci-fi..

Voltaire

17th December 2015, 19:19

1977? Jesus wept I don't think I'd even had a wank then! No wonder the sight of the Princess in that bra/top gave me a stiffy (Stiffy is period correct talk for a hard-on, hard-on being later talk for a boner .....)

Seems like yesterday....borrowing Mums purple Holden V8 and cruising up Queen St... or maybe that was later after the Old Mans Austin A60 ute.....

T'was a happening place then Sonnie, before they got motion picture houses in the suburbs :laugh:

AllanB

17th December 2015, 19:28

Shit I remember the purple Holdens too! No doubt with the govt issued kmph stickers on the MPH speedo :Police:

HenryDorsetCase

17th December 2015, 19:34

Was that the one with Remuera Morrisson in it?, I took the kids and fell asleep.

I read the book on the school bus from Silverdale to Takapuna, pretty light on story compared to the School stuff like Mcbeth... actually probably the same story

I remember the original playing at the Cinerama in Queen St and being 1977 and being punk...or new wave...can't remember and all not going to see it.

You won't have been punk in Auckland in 1977 I wouldnt have thought. Well... maybe. You would have been one of a few. When did Zwines open and close? the definitive record of the era is of course AK79 but by then mostly the scene had changed. New wave (so called) was later. terrible haircuts and godawful drum sound from those octagonal fake drums.

I did see original Star Wars at the theatre. I liked it but since I was then (and still am) a massive Star Trek fan I was underwhelmed. I have seen every Star Trek movie except NEMESIS in its theatrical release. TL;DR: Star Trek > Star Wars.

I will go to this one though sometime in the new year. apparently it is OK but someone told me Dumbledore dies.

HenryDorsetCase

17th December 2015, 19:35

Shit I remember the purple Holdens too! No doubt with the govt issued kmph stickers on the MPH speedo :Police:

and a Carless day sticker with the X exemption beside it.

I learned to drive in my Dad's HQ Holden :) good times

jasonu

17th December 2015, 19:43

I remember the original playing at the Cinerama in Queen St and being 1977 and being punk...or new wave...can't remember and all not going to see it.

I had to line up with dad, my brother and my next door neighbor mate 2 Saturday mornings in a row to see the original at the Cinerama. The first time we lined up we were 2nd from next in line to miss out...
My mate Leonard Easthope at Maungawhau primary saw it 11 or 12 times for some reason.

jasonu

17th December 2015, 19:46

Shit I remember the purple Holdens too! No doubt with the govt issued kmph stickers on the MPH speedo :Police:

and a couple of years later fully equipped with carless days stickers.

Voltaire

17th December 2015, 20:55

You won't have been punk in Auckland in 1977 I wouldnt have thought. Well... maybe. You would have been one of a few. When did Zwines open and close? the definitive record of the era is of course AK79 but by then mostly the scene had changed. New wave (so called) was later. terrible haircuts and godawful drum sound from those octagonal fake drums.

I did see original Star Wars at the theatre. I liked it but since I was then (and still am) a massive Star Trek fan I was underwhelmed. I have seen every Star Trek movie except NEMESIS in its theatrical release. TL;DR: Star Trek > Star Wars.

I will go to this one though sometime in the new year. apparently it is OK but someone told me Dumbledore dies.

Ummm, well I wasn't Disco or fecking Genisis.
I used to pass the Record Warehouse on my way to school and used to get Rip it Up mag when it was free. Punk was around but not much, Barry Jenkins used to play it on Hauraki, they played shit the rest of the time. Didn't really think much of AK 79 at the time as discovered Hendrix, Doors and so on by then....that led on to The Stranglers and the Clash.
The Screeming Mee Mees were in my year at school...webble Catholic schools :Punk: We used to joke they had a 1000 copies of See Me Go under the bed.

17th December 2015, 22:37

I've fond memories of my first Stars wars experience. With a few mates we bunked off High School. Smoked some dope in a phone booth in Cathedral Square, thinking we were hidden from public eyes. What teenage idiots we were. Stepped out of the booth to realise, truly to our shock, that everyone could see us through the glass and the booth was full of smoke, half of it pouring out of the booth.

So from there we went to the movie everyone was talking about that we had paid little attention to. Something about a sci-fi fantasy other world cowboys and Indians thing- yeah right, sounded like a load of bollocks. UNTIL. Stoned as any stoned idiots could be we were blown away by the opening credits. Those words coming out of the bottom of the screen disappearing ever smaller into the endless universe. Wow! That alone blew our minds. Didn't really care what the movie was like after that awesome experience. The movie was just a bonus after those amazing opening credits.

That was with my best friend through high school and our twenties. He died of a brain tumour in 2001. 14 years already? Hard to believe.

I'll think of him when I go to watch this latest instalment.

Tazz

18th December 2015, 09:07

Ewoks on Endor.
Jar-Jar Binks
Do Not Want!

It's not like they haven't tried like hell!

Also - Mods - can we enforce Spoiler tags in this thread?

You've never seen THE PHANTOM PILE OF SHITE I take it?

I liked it, even got the play-station game ;) I was only like 10 or something and haven't watched it for years which probably has some bearing on that, but other than Jar-Jar I can't really remember much I didn't like. Also with EJK on that song, he's one hell of a composer.

Anyone ever play that Jedi Knights II game? Bad ass.

Katman

18th December 2015, 09:14

The Screeming Mee Mees were in my year at school...webble Catholic schools

I went to uni with Peter van der Fluit.

TheDemonLord

18th December 2015, 09:21

Anyone ever play that Jedi Knights II game? Bad ass.

Force Pushing people off ledges in Multiplayer....

Good Times.

Bald Eagle

18th December 2015, 09:39

It wont be the same without Spock and the Darleks. Will probably give it miss.

Sent from my LG-P768 using Tapatalk

Moi

18th December 2015, 12:15

It wont be the same without Spock and the Darleks. Will probably give it miss.

And a Chief Engineer who's a Scot...

Swoop

18th December 2015, 14:24

I remember the original playing at the Cinerama in Queen St and being 1977.

Yup, same.
The change in cinematic production with "blue screen" processes made this the break from convention that heralded in the new era of movies.

Shame the Cinerama was knocked down. Saw "Raid at Entebbe" there as well.

PrincessBandit

19th December 2015, 15:05

Ok, back on track - thoroughly enjoyed it. Plenty of questions set up for the next two in the trilogy, of course.

Virago

20th December 2015, 12:41

Sadly, they still haven't figured out yet that spaceships in space don't make any sound...

bogan

20th December 2015, 12:52

Sadly, they still haven't figured out yet that spaceships in space don't make any sound...

It's augmented reality. Spaceships do have internal speakers and advanced computers / sensor suites, and humans have evolved to rely on our hearing as part of situational awareness. So really, it would make less sense to leave everything silent.

Virago

20th December 2015, 13:08

It's augmented reality. Spaceships do have internal speakers and advanced computers / sensor suites, and humans have evolved to rely on our hearing as part of situational awareness. So really, it would make less sense to leave everything silent.

Pfft. It worked for 2001: A Space Odyssey (well, except for the space-borne orchestra playing Strauss).

bogan

20th December 2015, 13:10

Pfft. It worked for 2001: A Space Odyssey (well, except for the space-borne orchestra playing Strauss).

Nothing 'worked' for that pile of garbage.

Tazz

20th December 2015, 13:11

Sadly, they still haven't figured out yet that spaceships in space don't make any sound...

Shame to fall short at that hurdle considering all the authentic aliens, lasers and spaceships they use, a long with the fact it is all a true story of course....:bleh:

pzkpfw

20th December 2015, 15:46

Sadly, they still haven't figured out yet that spaceships in space don't make any sound...

Well duh. You can hear them because of the atmosphere they fly around in.

In space ...

F5 Dave

22nd December 2015, 17:55

I remember seeing a promo for the original on SpotOn. Really wanted to go but it was like a year away. Or perhaps a galaxy . . . Lined up with the folks at the Cinerama in Wellington to get 20 from the front and see Full House sign.

Those x wing fighters veering into that trench was a life affirming moment.

I figured as long as I am impressed to the same level I was as a young boy seeing the first (4th) one I'd be happy.

Saw it last night. Let the naysayers and dweebs criticise. It was awesome and I loved it.

jasonu

22nd December 2015, 17:58

I remember seeing a promo for it on SpotOn..

Was Danny Watson smoking a spliff???

F5 Dave

22nd December 2015, 18:07

I remember seeing shorts of space ships and two robots. It was like a new world for a young fella.

But take an open mind to be entertained and you'll enjoy it. I want to go again, and I haven't seen a movie twice whilst it was running since I was a teenager.

eldog

8th January 2016, 18:46

'Star Wars' with surround sound system - Shit it was impressive.

All movies since have not lived up to the original experience way back in 19 something something........

I'll see this one. But the tech is now expected and common place (last new thing was 3D that has not taken off) so expectations are very high for visuals. So unless the story line is exceptional it will only be average.

Talking of story lines the original was pretty lame in retrospect - nothing new, bit of a fairy tale really. HOWEVER the visual impact of the imagery was very fresh and the 'ride' exciting.

I struggle to get a similar buzz from movies now days.

totally agree (I did alter your text a bit)

totally disappointed with this current movie release.......:no: Sorry to say.

F5 Dave

8th January 2016, 19:19

. Try not to tell your kids what you think of their decisions.

Bah humbug?

HenryDorsetCase

8th January 2016, 21:53

No. It does not.

It is appalling, cynical, and stupid. It is a gross exploitation of treasured childhood memories. It needs to be burned. WITH FIRE.

I cannot tell you how much I hated this film. Actually, my hatred extends not only to the film (which is BAD) but to everyone associated with it. The people who used to be in it (I am looking at you Carrie Fisher and Harry Ford) are clearly ONLY DOING IT FOR THE MONEY. George Lucas doesnt give a fuck because he made FOUR BILLION DOLLARS when the "property" was sold to the fucking King Rat, Disney.

It is a fucking travesty.

Go to the Warehouse and buy the Bluray of SERENITY for like a tenner and actually get a fim worth seeing. Because this shit is evil and stupid. More relevantly, it is fucking IRRELEVANT. There is no point to any other star wars film other than the first one. Dumbass the first one is the one that was released in 1977 and which George the fucking corporate shill retconned into being "Episode IV". That is fucking Star Wars. There is, I'll admit, some justification for the first trilogy. There is no reason whatever for for the second trilogy. Who THE FUCK cares about Jar Jar and fuckingLiam Neeson and what the fuck is Natalie Portman DOING? and Ewan McGregor? Jesus, just get on a motorbike for fucks sake.

But wait, let me tell you what I really think:

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because it is THE SAME FILM as the first one. Just cynically re-jigged so as to appear "new enough". But think about it. IT IS THE SAME STORY. IN THE SAME LOCATION. With the same cardboard cutout characters in the same stupid setups. Fuck, I cannot tell you how tedious that shit is.

I like Daisy Ridley. Mostly because her first name is Daisy, and she can deadlift 80kg. Look that shit up she really can. And John Boyega is great as the TR-8R. Actually thats not fair he is the everyman hero. And he is competent.

But Kylo Ren? a low rent conflicted Darth Vader? Who the fuck cares? the point of a villain is THAT HE IS THE VILLAIN. We dont care about his internal trauma. Just force choke some bitch for fucks sake.

Oh yeah, and the mega weapon? Its the same motherfucker as they had in '77! Christ on a crutch, really?

DO NOT WASTE YOUR TIME OR YOUR MONEY ON THIS PIECE OF STINKING SHIT.

HenryDorsetCase

8th January 2016, 21:59

Nothing 'worked' for that pile of garbage.

Tsk tsk.

Not an appreciator of art cinema then?

What about the first hour or so with the monkeys?

that was good, right?

HenryDorsetCase

8th January 2016, 22:01

bogan

8th January 2016, 22:07

.............the fuck?

The spacey ship you are in, makes the simulated pew-pew whoosh-vroom-wub noise of the ones you aren't in; so you can hear what they are up to while deploying the captains log (taking a shit).

HenryDorsetCase

8th January 2016, 22:16

Yup, same.
The change in cinematic production with "blue screen" processes made this the break from convention that heralded in the new era of movies.

Shame the Cinerama was knocked down. Saw "Raid at Entebbe" there as well.

Well, kinda. You do mean "Green screen" not blue though, right?

The major shift from "auteur" cinema to "blockbuster movies" occurred with JAWS which was released prior to STAR WARS. The decade before JAWS is actually my favourite in American film. It was the era of the "director as auteur" and resulted in some brilliant films: EASY RIDER THE GODFATHER, DOG DAY AFTERNOON, etc. I personally dont like EASY RIDER, but its cinematography, and the thought of purple dye trickling down Peter Fonda's ballbag, save it for me.

In fact, if you want to watch a great documentary about it I would recommend "Easy Riders and Raging Bulls"

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0359203/?ref_=fn_al_tt_2

and "A decade under the influence"

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0342275/?ref_=tt_rec_tti

as an examination of the era.

In fact, it is completely arguable that the phenomenon of the "blockbuster" is entirely responsible for the dire state of the industry today. Because as a result of the massive success of the blockbusters, other corporates, not film studios were attracted to the industry, bought up the old school studios, and then ruined the industry by chasing the tentpole movies. There's a really good book by Lynda Obst about it:

http://www.bookdepository.com/Sleepless-Hollywood-Lynda-Obst/9781476727752

TL;DR: Star Wars fucked the movies for movie fans.

eldog

8th January 2016, 22:17

It is a fucking travesty.

because it is THE SAME FILM as the first one.

It boldly goes where someone went before, and for me fails. I am sorry to say.

I wanted to leave after the first ten minutes, the 3 others I was with were the same.

It picked up when Chewy and Han Solo arrived then .....:yawn:

HenryDorsetCase

8th January 2016, 22:20

The spacey ship you are in, makes the simulated pew-pew whoosh-vroom-wub noise of the ones you aren't in; so you can hear what they are up to while deploying the captains log (taking a shit).

but sound waves require a medium, i.e atmosphere, to propagate. Thus, if you blow up a ship in space there will be no sound, except the sound of bits of said ship clanging into your ship. Or, ripping through it. because F = MA bitches. Which is why the best bomb ever would be to drop out of lightspeed at, say, .8C carrying a rock weighing, say, 10000 kg. release said rock on a trajectory which would have it intersecting your designated target. Manoevre out of the way (we can travel faster than light, of COURSE we can do this). Watch with interest as your 10T rock vaporises your target planet.

F5 Dave

8th January 2016, 22:25

You should have left.

I liked it. Thought is was great and I'll go see it again. But I thought from the Ewoks onwards they have been travesties, but I've kept going as the first one was so great. I thought this one was pretty much as good.

So there.

Some of you like cruisers and bobbers so taste is not a sturdy moral high ground.

bogan

8th January 2016, 22:26

but sound waves require a medium, i.e atmosphere, to propagate. Thus, if you blow up a ship in space there will be no sound, except the sound of bits of said ship clanging into your ship. Or, ripping through it. because F = MA bitches. Which is why the best bomb ever would be to drop out of lightspeed at, say, .8C carrying a rock weighing, say, 10000 kg. release said rock on a trajectory which would have it intersecting your designated target. Manoevre out of the way (we can travel faster than light, of COURSE we can do this). Watch with interest as your 10T rock vaporises your target planet.

Yes but it has sensors, computers, and speakers. Think of it kind of but not really like satnav, the lady isn't actually in your car, nor can she directly see where you are going, but the GPS sensor and computer calculations, and speakers gives a driver relevant telemetry.

eldog

8th January 2016, 22:29

I've kept going as the first one was so great.

This is why I stayed. Maybe I expected too much.

Berries

8th January 2016, 22:54

I wanted to leave after the first ten minutes, the 3 others I was with were the same.
After watching half an hour of Episode 1 starring people with dog faces/ears and Jake the Muss I walked out and the Star Wars franchise (c) (TM) won't see any more of my money. The first was a classic. The next two ok because of the story. All the rest no thanks, they smell too much of money grabbing to me.

F5 Dave

9th January 2016, 11:30

As opposed to furthering the humanitarian cause?

Ohh, ohh; I'm just in it for the music?

Berries

9th January 2016, 12:05

As opposed to furthering the humanitarian cause?
Surely George Lucas does not need the money? I thought it was a trilogy to begin with. Then it became a sixology by cleverly filling in the first three episodes a few years later but rounding off the story I assumed. And now this. What episode is this one anyway, nine?

Tazz

9th January 2016, 12:41

Surely George Lucas does not need the money? I thought it was a trilogy to begin with. Then it became a sixology by cleverly filling in the first three episodes a few years later but rounding off the story I assumed. And now this. What episode is this one anyway, nine?

Disney owns the franchise now I thought?

PrincessBandit

9th January 2016, 16:12

But I thought the Ewoks have been transvestites, so great. I thought this one was pretty much as good.

So there.

Eeeek, I must stop speed reading (above is what I saw in your post until I went back for a second look) :pinch::o

HenryDorsetCase

9th January 2016, 16:36

Disney owns the franchise now I thought?

George sold Lucasfilm (the owner of STAR WARS) to Disney for FOUR BILLION AMERICAN DOLLARS in cash and stock.

So Disney needs to get its money back therefore Star Wars ad nauseam. They will not see $1 more of my money though.

F5 Dave

9th January 2016, 18:18

Ahh, speed reading. Like normal reading but without the comprehension.:msn-wink:

J.A.W.

9th January 2016, 18:47

Ahh, speed reading. Like normal reading but without the comprehension.:msn-wink:

Or, as seems evident in your case Dyno-Dave, remedial reading at "normal" speed..

Star Wars is ludicrously dumbed-down, to the point of incoherence - as evidently suits those who aspire to "normal" levels of "comprehension".

( & of course, the X-fighter canyon attack on the D-star shown in the original movie - was a fairly blatant crib from 'The Dambusters'..

AllanB

9th January 2016, 19:09

The original movie stands up in memory because the imagery was ground breaking for the time.

The story is nothing new, totally unoriginal (it's a fucking princess, bad boy rescue fairy tale for Christs sake - The Force is no more that old time 'magic' from a thousand previous stories). The story line is a rip off of a rip off.

As I started - the detail, sound and visual delights of the original, in it's day were impressive and burnt itself into my youthful (and corresponding ageing) mind. But the ha-do surrounding the waffle that came in the 'later' movies is unjustified - from a current time young persons point of view there was nothing stunning or ground breaking in a similar manner to the original to justify their box office income. Indeed I'd go as far as to say until the current release the income and hype has been based on expectations of what the latest movie is - a revisit of the original with original characters - the hype being mainly derived by old farts like me who were wowed as a teen by movie one, introduced their kids to it and made them suffer through five or so average efforts.

I will also appoligise for what appears to be a coherent, well thought out statement above - I will revert back to my usual KB waffle on future posts.

Swoop

9th January 2016, 19:14

Star Wars spoiler:

Once everybody finds out they are delicious, the Ewoks are hunted to extinction.

admenk

9th January 2016, 19:17

I will revert back to my usual KB waffle on future posts.

Thank goodness for that......:innocent:.....(nice review by the way)

Swoop

9th January 2016, 19:19

Well, kinda. You do mean "Green screen" not blue though, right?
No. Blue screen.

The original was filmed with blue neutral background so that the SFX could be added in afterwards.

Swoop

9th January 2016, 19:44

Forgot to add this...

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/EypzUduBqiQ" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

BMWST?

9th January 2016, 19:53

it was a night out worth having.What else are you gonna do with 22 bucks.I enjoy the movies,the atmosphere,sound,popcorn and icecream is much much better than home.

HenryDorsetCase

9th January 2016, 20:14

it was a night out worth having.What else are you gonna do with 22 bucks.I enjoy the movies,the atmosphere,sound,popcorn and icecream is much much better than home.

Save your money for THE HATEFUL EIGHT on 21 January?

nerrrd

9th January 2016, 20:42

Those who went to this film expecting to see an intelligent, ground-breaking piece of cinema: its Star Wars, ok? Lighten up.

Personally I didn't mind seeing what was more or less a reworked version of the original, it was like a cleansing of the palette after the dross (sorry Liam, Ewan and Natalie, you did your best) that was the prequels. I think it sets the stage for the films to come.

I know the effects were probably what carried the original back in '77, but I think people underestimate how big a part the characters (and especially the humour between them) played in it's success, and that was what carried the trilogy successfully (despite the Ewoks) through to Return of the Jedi.

In fact I'd say Firefly (and the Serenity movie, which was horribly condensed but better than nothing) is a direct descendant of the original trilogy in this regard, only taken to a vastly higher level.

And 2001 rocks! Still love that movie, sure some acts are a bit tedious, but the HAL one is nothing short of brilliant; and the ending still gives me chills.

Plus I had vouchers, so it was free for me :niceone:.

TheDemonLord

9th January 2016, 21:07

I enjoyed it.

I will be seeing the next one when it comes out.

However - there are things that I'm a touch disappointed about.

As everyone else had said - It's a New Hope re-hashed - I wish they had done more with it.
Ray is a bit of a Mary Sue learning Advanced Force techniques with no training, Mastering a LightSabre to beat a Sith with no training. I could somewhat look past Fin's ability to master the LightSabre on account that he was a StormTrooper and there is a slight possibility of them doing close combat/sword like training - even though that is also unlikely - however Fin brings me to the next point.
Fin - now before people start throwing the Race Card - I think the guy that played him did Awesome, and I am excited to see him in the next 2 movies - however having someone who is Black in the First Order/Empire misses an entire point that was made in the first films - everyone in the Empire was white males, and of European descent, with Clean black Uniforms - They were Space Nazis! This was to highlight just how Totalitarian, Xenophobic, Uncompromising and Evil the Empire was, Especially when compared to the Rebellion which was all inclusive. Having a Black StormTrooper kinda defeats this imagery.
Then there is a StormTrooper breaking their conditioning - while interesting, it undermines the terror of the StormTrooper - that they are effectively mindless automata - following orders no matter how evil they are. To have a StormTrooper break this conditioning makes them less scary.
And Han died :( Many a Manly Tear was Shed.

eldog

9th January 2016, 21:08

the X-fighter canyon attack on the D-star shown in the original movie - was a fairly blatant crib from 'The Dambusters'..

isnt the P Jackson version Dambusters coming out soon?

The original SW movie was enough tech, bangs, bright lights, fast moving plot to keep most people attentive. Didn't matter that the plot was thin etc, people wanted an escape into a different world/time when they goto the movies.

eldog

9th January 2016, 21:10

Eeeek, :pinch::o

What did you think of the movie?

PrincessBandit

9th January 2016, 22:08

What did you think of the movie?

I enjoyed it and want to see it again. I knew Han Solo was going to croak and believe Harrison Ford only agreed to do it if his character was killed off. In the books he dies saving Luke and Chewie, I believe, in Return of the Jedi so he aleady was on borrowed time.

I always liked R2D2 but adore BB8!! I soooooo want one of those!

Sure it was basically a rehash of IV, and how in the hell did Leia and Han produce Mr Perfect Wavy Locks (when in reality it should have been dreaded helmet hair), BUT it does build the expectation and anticipation of what is to come. I think they'll be considerably more satisfying than the dreadful I, II and III (oh III was ok). (And I still suspect the evil Emporer might have somehow survived in Return of the Jedi...)

Nurse Ratched

9th January 2016, 22:58

Seen it and ...IMHO...meh. Each to their own.

Tazz

10th January 2016, 09:26

Eeeek, I must stop speed reading (above is what I saw in your post until I went back for a second look) :pinch::o

hahaha, Endor, the Thailand-esque plastic surgery holiday mecca of the galaxy?

George sold Lucasfilm (the owner of STAR WARS) to Disney for FOUR BILLION AMERICAN DOLLARS in cash and stock.

So Disney needs to get its money back therefore Star Wars ad nauseam. They will not see $1 more of my money though.

One of the first things they did was cancel The Clone Wars too, bastards. I'll still watch em though as there isn't enough other sci-fi out there to otherwise be entertained with.

J.A.W.

10th January 2016, 17:21

isnt the P Jackson version Dambusters coming out soon?

Dunno, wasn't there some post-modernist production drama to do with the only 'Nigger' character being killed off, 1/2 way in?

Maybe - if Sir P.J. got Samuel L. Jackson to do an "authentic" voice-over, like James E. Jones did for the original Darth Vader?

TheDemonLord

10th January 2016, 18:21

Dunno, wasn't there some post-modernist production drama to do with the only 'Nigger' character being killed off, 1/2 way in?

Maybe - if Sir P.J. got Samuel L. Jackson to do an "authentic" voice-over, like James E. Jones did for the original Darth Vader?

If memory serves - Nigger is the Labrador of the Wing Commander and was the name of the real life dog, killed by a Car accident I think.

J.A.W.

10th January 2016, 18:33

If memory serves - Nigger is the Labrador of the Wing Commander and was the name of the real life dog, killed by a Car accident I think.

& Captain Obvious strikes again.. well duh, who aint seen the `50's classic in B&W..

Or are you really subtly accusing Cassina of being a racist? L.O.L...

HenryDorsetCase

10th January 2016, 19:07

outside of society
its where I want to be

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TheDemonLord

10th January 2016, 19:10

& Captain Obvious strikes again.. well duh, who aint seen the `50's classic in B&W..

Or are you really subtly accusing Cassina of being a racist? L.O.L...

Not in ages - but good to know my memory is good.

I've accused Cassina of many things - however Racist isn't one.

On a side note - they better not change the name of the Dog.

J.A.W.

10th January 2016, 19:24

Not in ages - but good to know my memory is good.

I've accused Cassina of many things - however Racist isn't one.

On a side note - they better not change the name of the Dog.

Yeah, it may be a P.C issue..

& oddly enough, I took over the care of an all-white cat named 'Nigrito' which was a a bit of Aussie/Latino
humour which translates as 'Blackie'..

P.S. - AFAIR, Patty was referencing John Lennon's Plastic Ono 'Women are the niggers of the world' song there..