Fossil fuels, is it really just dead dino juice?

[yokel]

Have we all been hoodwinked?
Crude oil is a abiotic fuel, not fossil fuel.
And now we're told "fossil" fuels are bad mkay, and it needs to stay in the ground by the environmental do gooder idiots.


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[Grumph]

That news has taken a while to get to Tauranga. Work out how much oil has been consumed since it was discovered as a fuel - and how many dinosaurs that represents - and laugh.
The process which made it still continues now.

[TheDemonLord]

"Can you provide some names of Scientists to support what you are saying"
"Buy my book - its all there"



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[yokel]

That news has taken a while to get to Tauranga. Work out how much oil has been consumed since it was discovered as a fuel - and how many dinosaurs that represents - and laugh.
The process which made it still continues now.

Yes I've heard tidbits of things about it in the past, eg wells that just wont run dry.
and when you look at a lump of coal it just looks like a rock to me, not a fossil haha.

It's helps makes sense what climate change and ending the use of fossil fuels is about.

Anyone with half a brain knows those cunts don't give a shit about looking after the environment.

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[Indoo]

Have we all been hoodwinked?

Clearly you have been sucked in by one of the oldest and most completely discredited 'snake' or in this case abiogenic oil theories.

Do you honestly just believe what these videos tell you hook line and sinker without even stopping to question or just research for just a second before going straight to the post new topic button?

It would save you from looking like such a fool in future.

[yokel]

Clearly you have been sucked in by one of the oldest and most completely discredited 'snake' or in this case abiogenic oil theories.

Do you honestly just believe what these videos tell you hook line and sinker without even stopping to question or just research for just a second before going straight to the post new topic button?

It would save you from looking like such a fool in future.

First off, I'm not afraid of looking like a fool.
better than being a fool.

Second, explain the 40,000 foot + deep Russian oil wells and the methane lakes on Titan, or are you saying there's fossils on Titan??

http://principia-scientific.org/russians-nasa-discredit-fossil-fuel-theory-demise-of-junk-co2-science/

[TheDemonLord]

First off, I'm not afraid of looking like a fool.
better than being a fool.

Luckily in your case, you look like the fool you are.


Second, explain the 40,000 foot + deep Russian oil wells and the methane lakes on Titan, or are you saying there's fossils on Titan??

Methane on Titan - you are trying to suggest that the prescence of methane on Titan means either:

There was fossil life on Titan
or
Methane cannot be a Fossil Fuel.

All I'm going to say is - Carbon is the 4th most abundant chemical in the Universe, Hydrogen is the most abundant. And that there is more than one way to prove Yokel is an idiot.

[yokel]

Luckily in your case, you look like the fool you are.



Methane on Titan - you are trying to suggest that the prescence of methane on Titan means either:

There was fossil life on Titan
or
Methane cannot be a Fossil Fuel.

All I'm going to say is - Carbon is the 4th most abundant chemical in the Universe, Hydrogen is the most abundant. And that there is more than one way to prove Yokel is an idiot.

Um, Carbon and hydrogen are atoms, not chemicals silly

[mashman]

Carbon is the 4th most abundant chemical in the Universe, Hydrogen is the most abundant.

Coz someone went out and counted it all? No, wait. They took samples of the universe and decided that their extrapolation must hold given how constant the universe is. Humans :facepalm:

[TheDemonLord]

Coz someone went out and counted it all? No, wait. They took samples of the universe and decided that their extrapolation must hold given how constant the universe is. Humans :facepalm:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abundance_of_the_chemical_elements

Feel free to review their Methodology.

[mashman]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abundance_of_the_chemical_elements

Feel free to review their Methodology.

I did earlier. T'was just as funny then.

[TheDemonLord]

I did earlier. T'was just as funny then.

So if you have a peice of 2% Carbon Steel, it can't be 2% because no one counted ALL the Atoms....

The only thing that is Funny here is you.

[mashman]

So if you have a peice of 2% Carbon Steel, it can't be 2% because no one counted ALL the Atoms....

The only thing that is Funny here is you.

Yeah, measuring all elements that the universe contains v's the elemtns that comprise a piece of steel... awesome argument bro. Yokel wins.

[Akzle]

So if you have a peice of 2% Carbon Steel, it can't be 2% because no one counted ALL the Atoms....

The only thing that is Funny here is you.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1m673dpXWw

[yokel]

So if you have a peice of 2% Carbon Steel, it can't be 2% because no one counted ALL the Atoms....

The only thing that is Funny here is you.

Hey numb nuts, tell us about how carbon is a chemical hahaha,

so what if the primordial goo was actually crude oil??

[Jin]

Luckily in your case, you look like the fool you are.



Methane on Titan - you are trying to suggest that the prescence of methane on Titan means either:

There was fossil life on Titan
or
Methane cannot be a Fossil Fuel.

All I'm going to say is - Carbon is the 4th most abundant chemical in the Universe, Hydrogen is the most abundant. And that there is more than one way to prove Yokel is an idiot.
Maybe there were dinosaurs on Titan. Dont be so closed minded!

[TheDemonLord]

Yeah, measuring all elements that the universe contains v's the elemtns that comprise a piece of steel... awesome argument bro. Yokel wins.

It's the same principle - the only difference being the size and the margin of Error.

So which is it? Either you can't say its 2% Carbon steel (with all the expected properties of such a peice of Steel) because no one counted all the Atoms OR that I am right that we can take samples and with an acceptable margin on error make fairly accurate extrapolations based on that.

[TheDemonLord]

Hey numb nuts, tell us about how carbon is a chemical hahaha,

so what if the primordial goo was actually crude oil??

It's a Chemical....

A Chemical Element.

well considering we have a pretty good idea of what the Primordial goo possibly was : http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/chem.200802656/abstract

You will note that Adenine isn't Crude Oil.

[jonbuoy]

Oil from plant/primitive life seems plausible. There are sea creature fossils high on Everest and looking at how things changed from Pangea stranger things have happened. Look how deeply buried Roman ruins are and that was only yesterday in the grand scheme of life on Earth. If life has been around for 3.8 billion years it would seem to be enough time to make a fair bit of ooze. Don't know if you've ever walked on mud flats but if you dig down you quickly come accross a black layer of oozing decomposing sludge - bury that under high pressure and cook for a few million years and I could see it turning into something else.

[mashman]

It's the same principle - the only difference being the size and the margin of Error.

So which is it? Either you can't say its 2% Carbon steel (with all the expected properties of such a peice of Steel) because no one counted all the Atoms OR that I am right that we can take samples and with an acceptable margin on error make fairly accurate extrapolations based on that.

bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha haaaaaaaaaaaaaa margin of error ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha haaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.

And yet you persist. I'd commend your persistence, but you lost a wee while ago.

[bogan]

It's the same principle - the only difference being the size and the margin of Error.

So which is it? Either you can't say its 2% Carbon steel (with all the expected properties of such a peice of Steel) because no one counted all the Atoms OR that I am right that we can take samples and with an acceptable margin on error make fairly accurate extrapolations based on that.

He's not too good with numbers. Ask him how 50/50 chances work :laugh:

[Woodman]

Thought this was old news, and the term "fossil fuels" was just a colloquialism.

But hey if theirs a conspiracy out there then I'm down for a laugh.:nya:

[Voltaire]

I'm going to go out on a Conspiracy Theory limb here..." The Stone Age did not end due to lack of stones"

[Woodman]

I'm going to go out on a Conspiracy Theory limb here..." The Stone Age did not end due to lack of stones"

You are correct, it was a false flag perpetrated by the bronze age jews to turn people away from stones. The fact is we would all be better off with stones in every way.

[TheDemonLord]

bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha haaaaaaaaaaaaaa margin of error ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha haaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.

And yet you persist. I'd commend your persistence, but you lost a wee while ago.

I see you didn't bother to refute anything - I'll ask again - is 2% carbon Steel, 2% carbon steel (with all the associated properties) even if no one counted all the atoms? Or is testing a sample an accurate enough method to extrapolate?

Pick one.

[TheDemonLord]

You are correct, it was a false flag perpetrated by the bronze age jews to turn people away from stones. The fact is we would all be better off with stones in every way.

(Post up a Youtube link with some fuckwit waffling on for 3 hours trying to proove this, without ever actually proving it or post up to a 'news' site where the coverage is so blatantly biased it is vomit inducing)

[mashman]

Pick one.

Fuckin priceless :killingme... happy christmas to you and yours bro.

[yokel]

Oil from plant/primitive life seems plausible. There are sea creature fossils high on Everest and looking at how things changed from Pangea stranger things have happened. Look how deeply buried Roman ruins are and that was only yesterday in the grand scheme of life on Earth. If life has been around for 3.8 billion years it would seem to be enough time to make a fair bit of ooze. Don't know if you've ever walked on mud flats but if you dig down you quickly come accross a black layer of oozing decomposing sludge - bury that under high pressure and cook for a few million years and I could see it turning into something else.

Yes it does seem plausible, otherwise it would not be accepted.
but something being plausible does not mean that's what it is.

Lets not forget this fossil fuel hypothesis was from the late 1800's.

[yokel]

(Post up a Youtube link with some fuckwit waffling on for 3 hours trying to proove this, without ever actually proving it or post up to a 'news' site where the coverage is so blatantly biased it is vomit inducing)

Only blatantly biased thing round here is ya informational bulimic self.

Happy holidays

[jonbuoy]

Yes it does seem plausible, otherwise it would not be accepted.
but something being plausible does not mean that's what it is.

Lets not forget this fossil fuel hypothesis was from the late 1800's.

Yup and a lot of great scientists theories and research from that time is still valid today.

[seattle smitty]

I believe a lot of the popularly-imagined connection between decomposed dinosaurs and petroleum deposits came from a tongue-in-cheek humorous advertising/marketing campaign by Sinclair Oil Company in the Fifties and Sixties. Serious people even then were talking more in terms of hundreds of millions of years of decomposed plants plus thousands of millions of years of decomposed algae and bacteria, all subjected to more millions of years of heat and pressure under anaerobic conditions. They didn't need to calculate a shortage of dinosaurs for creating oil deposits, sorry.


All this stuff aside, here's wishing a good holiday to y'all.

[yokel]

Being someone with two v8's to run, this fossil fuel not being fossil fuel is just awesome!


http://principia-scientific.org/russians-nasa-discredit-fossil-fuel-theory-demise-of-junk-co2-science/