Do people stop when you crash & fall off?

[Hads]

I have found it quite interesting in the 3 years riding a bike how often motorists ignore that fact you have fallen over on a motorcycle and just carry on. I have fallen off maybe 6 times at low speed due to loss of traction and only once had anyone stop to check if I was OK, is this normal?

I remember one incident where my rear wheel hit a patch of gravel and I spun up in the middle of Amberly, a car that was passing through actually tooted at me to get out of the way whilst I was lying on the road...

And yes I know falling off 6 times is rather excessive, usually it was related to weather conditions and lack of experience as I ride in everything, ice, snow, rain, hail. I think I have learnt my lesson now as the last time I fell off was in April, since then have run much better tyres.

[R650R]

Sorry not enough data to make a conclusive decision. Also you need more poll options like *crash from own bad riding and try to flee scene, do witnesses notice ;p*
Recent ones outside my house have seen a cold road scooter slide and also a Harley get Camry'd and lots of people stopped to help both.

I think your prob not crashing fast enough. Most people can tell the difference between whooopsie and organ donor level crashes. The times I've needed help people have stopped.
The times when I didn't including arsing off in front of a cop car they have carried on their merry way chuckling lol....

[Big Dog]

No. It is not normal... however it is the way the world has gone.
I always stop and I like to think someone would stop but the world is becoming a more callous place.

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[DamianW]

Mate, there's an ever growing number of people behind the wheel who aren't even concentrating on their own driving, never mind looking out for some poor sod that's gone down on their bike.

Sounds like a bit of rider training with an on road observer wouldn't hurt in your case.

[WristTwister]

I've had some roadside assistance before when I needed some help. In both cases I got helped by pedestrians but some drivers did glance in my direction, but I think that's the classic kiwi "rubber-necking".

I've heard stories of people in cars wanting roadside assistance as well and nobody stopping to help. Some people say they don't stop because they are unsure if their help is needed or even wanted, some say it's because they don't feel safe to stop and help - like the person is a serial killer luring unsuspecting drivers.

One thing is for sure though, if you do see an accident you should consider reporting it to the police.

"All crashes resulting in injury (such as broken bones or a night in hospital) should be reported to local police as soon as is practicable and no later than 24 hours from the time of the crash." [source: NZ police website]

[argada]

On the two occasions that I came off, plenty of people stopped to offer assistance.
I remember having half a dozen people asking if I was okay, all while I was still "in the zone" of trying to figure wtf just happened.
Was in the middle of no where too, I guess someone in riding gear standing on the side of the road with no bike tends to stands out.
Maybe in a more populated area... people assume someone else will help.

[jellywrestler]

I have fallen off maybe 6 times at low speed due to loss of traction and only once had anyone stop to check if I was OK, is this normal?



no, falling off six times is not normal.

[HenryDorsetCase]

falling off six times in three years is not normal. Do some courses or something. I promise to stop and check if you are OK if I do see you lying under your bike though.

[RGVforme]

A post from stuff.co.nz is doing the rounds on FB atm on this subject.

A lady somewhere took a stone to her eye though her open side car window.A rather nasty injury blood and all the guff going on.
She pulled over and tried tooting her horn to summon help.When that did not work she got out and tried to flag someone down blood everywhere I guess just to have a large number of people on what was a busy road drive past her until another lady finally stopped.

I once seen an old guy roll his mobility scooter over in a pothole in the middle of the road while crossing and watched while people just drove around him and then tooted at me when I stepped out putting my hands up to stop oncoming traffic(I was walking at the time) to help.:oi-grr:

Bottom line as much as we like to think we are the 'caring kiwis' our past generations were known for the reality is becoming a different story.

And full time car drivers are mostly dicks.:bleh:

So don't be offended its not just bikers they don't stop for.Most bikers ive found will stop and check your ok even if your just alone and stopped in a funny rural spot and I always do.

[mossy1200]

I fell off in 1989 stopping for some girls on a crossing. Shoelace caught on brake lever.

They stopped and had a good laugh at me.

[PistonBlown]

Doing the TT2000 last year over the 2 days I came across 3 accidents involving motorbikes.

In the first instance involving a TT'er there was already an ambulance and other people there doing traffic management when I arrived, 2 ute drivers had stopped to help out.

Second accident was a guy who'd hit a piece of wood on a corner while riding a Suzuki Boulevard and ended up in a ditch. I was the first on the scene and was helping him out - both car drivers that came along stopped to see if they could help and one helped get the bike out of the ditch.

Third was near on the Crown Range Rd, 2 other bikes and a car had stopped to help the person out - I did stop to see if they needed more help but they waved me on (it was right on a corner so not the best place).

However...

There was a guy pushing his bike along the SH1 about 10km north of Amberley a couple of years ago and I was the only vehicle to stop (I was actually going the other direction in my truck so had to U-turn). He'd just run out of petrol but no one else was stopping.

So yes cars (and bikes) do stop but it seems only when not on a state highway.

[caspernz]

The only poll you should be having is about which training provider to use. I mean you've come off at an alarming rate so far...haven't you worked out you need some skill improvement?:facepalm::innocent::shutup:

[Frodo]

I've had one minor off in recent years - people stopped to help.
I had two flat tyres on motorways - bikes stopped in both cases.
I've helped give first aid in two accidents - others also stopped.
I usually stop to help broken down bikes on the side of the road (unless on a motorway in a built up area and I would need to cross lanes of traffic)
I don't stop to help broken down cars unless in remote areas.
So my experience has been positive. But there may have been situations where I didn't see that someone was in trouble. I suspect that some of the bleating complaints are in situations where people going past did not realise there was an issue.

[neels]

The only prang I've had on the bike I didn't actually come off but did end up with mrs lying on the ground with an injured foot, even though there were plenty of kb people to help a couple of cars still stopped to see if there was anything they could do.

When pushing my bike almost the whole length of the waitaki bridge, nobody offered to help:no: in fact some cars almost hit me trying to squeeze past rather than wait for the traffic coming the other way to pass.

[Autech]

Only had one accident on the road (famously on a KB ride) and two people did help me get the bike off the road (turned out i'd fucked my shoulder a bit but didn't know it at the time). They may have driven past, but there was a GSXR blocking the road :D

My wife came off her scooter in some ice last year and LOTS of people stopped in cars, I imagine a few of them were KBer's though by the sound as they all told her they rode bikes.
But she has boobs, so not a fair comparison.

Does sound like you need rider training or at least a buddy to watch you mate, that's a fair few whoopsies. Even Askor hasn't crashed that much this year :ar15:

[pritch]

I attended a funeral a few months back. A WW2 veteran, clocking 90 as they all are now, fell in the road while crossing to the funeral home in one of the busiest streets in town. The cars just kept driving around him and pedestrians couldn't get to him to assist immediately. Some of the cars weren't missing by much, a lot of drivers having only a vague idea where their left wheel is.

Another person I knew, was hit by a car while cycling on the local bridge one morning. The emergency staff were subjected to a constant barrage of abuse from drivers incensed that the delay was making them late for work. Paddy may not have heard them though, he was dying.

Back in the 70s I was taking this nice S bend near the beach on my CB500. Unbeknown to me the road had a fresh coating of sand. As I'm sliding up the road on my arse, from a car going the other way, "Ha ha ha what a cunt!" No argument from me.

The most recent bin was when I put my then new VFR in a ditch maybe eight years ago. The driver of the other vehicle stopped and came back. He was a former motorcyclist though.

[jasonu]

Do some courses or something. .

IAMS???

I am sure that thick cunt cassina will show up soon.

[F5 Dave]

. . .

But she has boobs, so not a fair comparison.
. . .
Hmm, pics or it doesn't count.

[Hads]

It took me far too long to fix the stupid chinese tyres on my bike, which caused 3, first was turning into my gravel road hitting gravel on the road, now take that corner slower. Stupidly touching front brake whilst doing a u-turn, don't do that again and final was riding a 70's bike on 70's tyres in the rain whilst cornering on the slick tar seal they seem to like using on round abouts in Christchurch. Since replacing those tyres haven't had an incidence, even on the gravel.

A rear tyre that lasts 20000km with no sign of wear is not worth the wing mirrors you need to replace when the road is greasy from rain.

[sidecar bob]

Christ, how often are you guys throwing bikes up the road to need a poll about it?:facepalm:

[Hads]

I might also add whilst pushing the 70's bike with a seized engine down lineside road to Rangiora I had 3 offers for assistance, I took the 3rd offer as they had a decent trailor, and I was getting sick of pushing.

[pritch]

final was riding a 70's bike on 70's tyres in the rain whilst cornering on the slick tar seal they seem to like using on round abouts in Christchurch.

Roundabouts are suspect whatever tyres you're using. Vans and truck with full tanks tend to dump diesel on the road surface. Poms like to learn knee down on roundabouts - they have bigger roundabouts - all too often diesel can mean they manage to get an ear down as well.

[Tazz]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bystander_effect


The bystander effect, or bystander apathy, is a social psychological phenomenon that refers to cases in which individuals do not offer any means of help to a victim when other people are present. The probability of help is inversely related to the number of bystanders. In other words, the greater the number of bystanders, the less likely it is that any one of them will help. Several variables help to explain why the bystander effect occurs. These variables include: ambiguity, cohesiveness and diffusion of responsibility.

[Tazz]

Not always the case in NZ though =)

https://www.facebook.com/ronda.turk/posts/10208118792909865?fref=nf


On the 29th Dec, John & I had a Bike accident on our way into Akaroa. I dont know the names of the family who stopped and helped us. Maybe through the reach of Facebook my thank you will find you.We are grateful for your quick thinking and selfless actions. Parking your car in the middle of the road to protect John from being hit by cars coming around the corner, helping us both to safety. I hope your children were not to worried by my shoulder. We will both recover in time, John has a broken collar bone. Seems there was a diesel spill on the road earlier in the week, as we braked we must have hit it as the bike just slipped out from under us. Luckily we were going slow or it could have been worse. Thanks to the Akaroa Village Inn for calling the Ambulance and Police, who were all wonderful in their care.
PLEASE share our thank you, maybe with luck it will find the right people or someone who knows them. I dont think I had thanked you at the time (too shaken)

[HenryDorsetCase]

Roundabouts are suspect whatever tyres you're using. Vans and truck with full tanks tend to dump diesel on the road surface. Poms like to learn knee down on roundabouts - they have bigger roundabouts - all too often diesel can mean they manage to get an ear down as well.

Shit yeah. Last but one off was on the tunnel road/ferry road roundabout... diesel had me sliding going "What the fuck just happened?". The reason I always wear boots on the motorbike actually: I was wearing riding boots and my foot was under the bike helpfully cushioning the engine from dragging on the ground. When I stopped my boot had worn through the leather over my ankle bone, and the plastic was showing.... If I had been wearing tennis shoes that would have been my ankle bone sliding along the road with a motorbike on top of it. As it was, no injury.

the one after that was turning into my road to go home and a drain had blocked causing water to run over the road which I couldnt see... hit it leaned over and went for a slide.

These are about three years apart mind you. and the last around 20 years ago. Not that I am any better rider, just old and dont do as many miles its fair to say.

[MD]

But she has boobs, so not a fair comparison.

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I must say I'm getting tired of the rate us riders keep 'falling off' our bikes. Must be a design fault that we fall off them? Slippery seats maybe?

General public are probably becoming even more tired of it. So now when arriving at a crash I immediately look for any nice chicks with boobs before deciding to stop or not.

How much easier would life be for us blokes if we also had boobs. I mean nice boobs, not fat arse blokes with blubber titties.

Oh, yeah another vote for the OP to sort out his slow riding abilities. Maybe ride faster and see if you are so keen to 'fall off'

[ellipsis]

...two octogenerian ladies with zimmers helped pull the bike off me in a Bunnings car park once...my fucked old knee took a turn and collapsed on me when I came to a halt and was worth about as much as a wet spaghetti noodle when I put it out to hold the stance...lovely old girls...I took them for a cup of tea...

[Big Dog]

Christ, how often are you guys throwing bikes up the road to need a poll about it?:facepalm:
Almost as often as the track bous by the sounds.
Working as a flaggie you sure do meet a lot of racers. Big difference they all want to know what they did wrong and how to do better next time.

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[Big Dog]

...two octagenerian ladies with zimmers helped pull the bike off me in a Bunnings car park once...my fucked old knee took a turn and collapsed on me when I came to a halt and was worth about as much as a wet spaghetti noodle when I put it out to hold the stance...lovely old girls...I took them for a cup of tea...
...Did you score?...

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[jasonu]

It took me far too long to fix the stupid chinese tyres on my bike, which caused 3, first was turning into my gravel road hitting gravel on the road, now take that corner slower. Stupidly touching front brake whilst doing a u-turn, don't do that again and final was riding a 70's bike on 70's tyres in the rain whilst cornering on the slick tar seal they seem to like using on round abouts in Christchurch. Since replacing those tyres haven't had an incidence, even on the gravel.

A rear tyre that lasts 20000km with no sign of wear is not worth the wing mirrors you need to replace when the road is greasy from rain.

Sorry mate but you sound like people around here that blame snow and ice for their accident when it is in fact the fault of the driver/rider traveling too fast for the conditions or driver/rider lack of skill or experience.

[nodrog]

DMNTD has a new login.

[neels]

Sorry mate but you sound like people around here that blame snow and ice for their accident when it is in fact the fault of the driver/rider traveling too fast for the conditions or driver/rider lack of skill or experience.
If it's expected and you go out anyway, then agreed it's on your own head.

I have had an occasion myself of ending up in a hailstorm on a day which was forecast for light rain, and ended up with next to no control of where the bike was going to go.

As I don't consider myself particularly skilled, I would put it down to luck that it didn't end up on it's side in the middle of the road, and would have considered myself unlucky to get caught in crap weather if it had.

[RGVforme]

It took me far too long to fix the stupid chinese tyres on my bike, which caused 3, first was turning into my gravel road hitting gravel on the road, now take that corner slower. Stupidly touching front brake whilst doing a u-turn, don't do that again and final was riding a 70's bike on 70's tyres in the rain whilst cornering on the slick tar seal they seem to like using on round abouts in Christchurch. Since replacing those tyres haven't had an incidence, even on the gravel.

A rear tyre that lasts 20000km with no sign of wear is not worth the wing mirrors you need to replace when the road is greasy from rain.

The poster boy for the pro ACC levy group?.

Yeah it was the tyres right.......:scratch:.....lol.

More a case of learning not to do that again me thinks.Like most of us learn.

[mossy1200]

One day when the falling off stops ill be able to say I have done them all and learnt from my mistakes.

[Big Dog]

If it's expected and you go out anyway, then agreed it's on your own head.

I have had an occasion myself of ending up in a hailstorm on a day which was forecast for light rain, and ended up with next to no control of where the bike was going to go.

As I don't consider myself particularly skilled, I would put it down to luck that it didn't end up on it's side in the middle of the road, and would have considered myself unlucky to get caught in crap weather if it had.
I have not taken the bike 2 x because of bad weather in > 23 years.
Weather was a contributing factor in 2 accidents. Both occasions the fact I was rushing was probably a bigger factor. Both occasions also involved diesel spills I didn't see until I was part way round a corner.
The lesson?
Never rush. If it is that important to be on time leave early.

As it turns out the two times I allowed an employer to convince me to stay home instead of heading into the weather I would have had no issues anyway because the forcast winds didn't eventuate.

Tyres, patience and practice is all you need.
Ps. If you really want to ride in snow get snow tyres. I have ridden in light snow that was more like thin ice on the ground. Not keen to do it again on street tyres but easy enough so long as the bike is vertical and there is no sudden change in velocity.

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[eldog]

Sorry mate but you sound like people around here that blame snow and ice for their accident when it is in fact the fault of the driver/rider traveling too fast for the conditions or driver/rider lack of skill or experience.

+ tar bleed and lack of rider knowledge of what to look for/react if get into a situation.

Noobs don't really have much idea of what road/weather conditions can affect their ride.

Thats why I went to training and rider groups to learn that stuff. But that seems to be left to rider experience (too late for me).

Get good tyres:niceone: (they can regain grip after a slide and cause some butt puckering/hi side which can be interesting)

[Autech]

+ tar bleed and lack of rider knowledge of what to look for/react if get into a situation.

Noobs don't really have much idea of what road/weather conditions can affect their ride.

Thats why I went to training and rider groups to learn that stuff. But that seems to be left to rider experience (too late for me).

Get good tyres:niceone: (they can regain grip after a slide and cause some butt puckering/hi side which can be interesting)

I rode with more experienced riders in groups for a long while which helped keep me accident free for my n00b period. Did have some massive moments on the crappy Shinko tyres on my Hyosung though, but was lucky enough to save it before it got too nasty.
You are right about the crappy tyres, those shinkos did seem to slide predictably in the multiple moments they let go on me.
We got drunk and put the wee Hyo on the spot on my mate drive, they made a fantastic smoke screen and still refused to show any wear. It was off to the shop for some Pirelli's after that!

[Jin]

After 6 crashes you should probably reconsider whether motorcycling is for you. Number 7 might be your last.

[Scubbo]

I try crash where there is no-one around so atleast my ego doesn't get bruised :baby:

[Stirts]

I try crash where there is no-one around so atleast my ego doesn't get bruised :baby:

Why the fuck would try to crash? :bleh:

I should report you to the SPCM!

I dropped my bike on our steep driveway, I learnt too valuable lessons;
1) My boyfriend at the time was a complete and utter wanker, as he didn't help me pick it up
2) I can pick up my own bike when I am angry

[Autech]

I try crash where there is no-one around so atleast my ego doesn't get bruised :baby:

That's the part that hurts most in an accident I reckon. Us men are too proud.
I was proud of my zero crash record for the first 5 years or so of riding, was a relief to finally have a spill though as I kept thinking my first would be my last.

Still am yet to have a crash where I have pushed myself to the absolute limit and found it despite racing for the last year. I am looking forward to it almost as my 2 crashes so far have involved some circumstances out of my control (gravel and oil). Be good to know where the limit is so that I don't stray over it to much. Maybe I'm too slow to crash? Haha.

[grbaker]

Haven't crashed... touch woody... but the time a pedestrian walked out in fornt of me at the lights and I dropped the bike trying to avoid the dick a passer by helped me pick up my pride and bike.

When touring in Oz other travellers would stop to check you were okay even if you just stopped for a drink... especially when your are in the remote areas.
Not something so see as often here.

[Scubbo]

Haven't crashed... touch woody... but the time a pedestrian walked out in fornt of me at the lights and I dropped the bike trying to avoid the dick a passer by helped me pick up my pride and bike.

When touring in Oz other travellers would stop to check you were okay even if you just stopped for a drink... especially when your are in the remote areas.
Not something so see as often here.

often when i've stopped out in the wops usually still on the bike trying to decide which road at the T junction I should take, rural tradies/farmers always slow down and check everything it OK which is definitely not common near town but I guess near towns people think "ehh someone else will help out" / that bystander effect thing

[Big Dog]

I got a written warning once because I stopped 2 x in a fortnight making me late back from lunch each time. Neither was a mc accident though.
So I quit.
1st time not really a crash so much as hot girl in tears because she had a flat and dressed in her best suit was on her way to a job interview. Took me about 7 mins to change for her. Making me 5 mins late back from lunch and her on time for her interview.
The other was a girl for knocked off her bicycle because a Mercedes was too impatient to wait for her even though she entered the intersection on green gunned it and t boned her when the merc got a green.
Broken femur and possibly hip.
I stayed with her and kept her talking until the ambulance arrived. About 15mins late back to work.
Ambulance was there within 5 but she didn't want me to let go her hand until the ambulance staff were ready to shut the doors.

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[Phleep]

I was hit head on (probably at about 30kph) by a driver completely across the centre line in Northland. I grabbed their car's licence as they drove off and stood in the middle of the road to wave down the next car to pass since I didn't own a cell phone.

A month and a half later I was t-boned by a car at the give way sign outside the Karori Fire station and this time the whole bike (a borrowed CG125) blocked the road so people stopped.

This was 15-16 year ago though. Due to lack of injury I didn't give anyone a chance to get passed so none of the voting options count.

[pritch]

A month and a half later I was t-boned by a car at the give way sign outside the Karori Fire station and this time the whole bike (a borrowed CG125) blocked the road .


It's over forty years since I lived in Karori, but I'm having trouble understanding how you could block the road with a 125. A Harley maybe, they block roads all the time. Even when they are moving. :devil2:

[Phleep]

It's over forty years since I lived in Karori, but I'm having trouble understanding how you could block the road with a 125. A Harley maybe, they block roads all the time. Even when they are moving. :devil2:

The car straddled most of the lane but the bike covered the remainder. It was promptly wheeled off to the side though.

[awayatc]

I have found it quite interesting in the 3 years riding a bike how often motorists ignore that fact you have fallen over on a motorcycle and just carry on. I have fallen off maybe 6 times at low speed due to loss of traction and only once had anyone stop to check if I was OK, is this normal?

I remember one incident where my rear wheel hit a patch of gravel and I spun up in the middle of Amberly, a car that was passing through actually tooted at me to get out of the way whilst I was lying on the road...



Mate .....don't worry about other people's reactions....

You got bigger issues

only time I fell over 6 times doing same shit was when learning how to ski....

[5ive]

I reckon it has a little to do with what type of bike and gear you are wearing(black leathers, patches, and german helmets don't really do it for most of the public), where in New Zealand you are, and wether or not anyone sees the incident happen (you'll probably get more help if you're struck by another vehicle and not at fault/or you are seriously injured). Subtract sympathy points if you're seen doing something stupid leading up the the accident.

I've only had one off, but I didn't have much help, only two vehicles stopped to help, out of at least ten vehicles.

The truck that was speeding, had run a red light onto the motorway onramp, swerved into my lane, and hit me, didn't stop. They hesitated, knowing that they'd hit me, but didn't stop.

The rest of the cars following me chose to switch lanes and go past me on their merry way. Another car kindly decided to pull back in in front of me and my bike and put their hazard lights on, and another that was towing a trailer, was probably embarassed into stopping because they couldn't pull into the other lane because of the other passing cars, and that driver seemed more scared of me than worried, but was helpful enough I suppose - I asked him to tell me when the lights changed so I could get the bike off the road, as he didn't look that keen on going near the bike.

So I had to pick myself and my bike up off the road without any physical assistance, and I'm wondering how long I'd have waited lying/sitting on the road if I had suffered any injuries.

That was in Auckland though...

[sidecar bob]

To the OP, if you have fallen six times in three years from what is essentially a lack of awareness of your most basic surroundings, I'd recommend buying a car before you fuck yourself up completely.

[Woodman]

What a stupid poll. Who falls off often enough to see a pattern?:facepalm:

[Askor]

Maybe I'm too slow to crash? Haha.

:first: :ar15:

You're a cunt btw
At least I've only fallen off on the track, and haven't written a bike off :whistle:

OP needs to ride within his limits. Rideforever does great ACC subsidized courses IIRC

[G4L4XY]

Dropped the bike at an intersection once, let out the clutch too quick or something. Had cars backed up behind me, noone came to help me lift the fecker up till I'd actually done it myself.

[Big Dog]

Dropped the bike at an intersection once, let out the clutch too quick or something. Had cars backed up behind me, noone came to help me lift the fecker up till I'd actually done it myself.
You stopped to help pick up the bike. Surely that is the main thing?

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[Hads]

It is good to know my experience isn't common, and if I were to have an accident that was more serious people may actually stop.

[G4L4XY]

You stopped to help pick up the bike. Surely that is the main thing?

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That was the first time I realized how heavy the hyobag was.

[Big Dog]

They are very weight neutral until you get to about 20 degrees or so.
Based on my memories of a couple I rode anyway.

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[Autech]

That was the first time I realized how heavy the hyobag was.

My mate decided to try hop on my Hyo in the driveway a day after I had bought it. His stumpy Asian legs didn't reach the ground properly so as I sipped my bourbon I looked across to see him and my new toy toppling over. Lucking it was not the fairing model and was a gravel driveway so the bar end dug in to the ground preventing any damage.

[PrincessBandit]

I have only crashed once but have dropped 3 or 4 times when the bike has tipped past the point of no return when maneuvering (not for quite some time now thankfully). Every time someone has come to my assistance. The bandit is really heavy but I'm not about to deliberately put it down in order to try my skills at lifting on my own...

[Clunge Bucket]

I like to come off at least once a day and I always make sure there is noone about

Oh hang on, this is not a masturbation thread is it?

[eldog]

I dropped my bike on our steep driveway, I learnt too valuable lessons;
1) My boyfriend at the time was a complete and utter wanker, as he didn't help me pick it up
2) I can pick up my own bike when I am angry

Did he watch you or try in anyway give you instructions?

I learnt my most valuable lessons by having someone knowledgeable watching me perform what I thought they should help me with.

1. They knew what to do. (Bast!@#s)
2. They knew I don't learn just by watching but it helps
3. If I became stuck, they could help, eventually..... after much laughter.
4. They offered ways of making it easier next time once I had achieved the task (no matter how I did) - they were only concerned about me.
5. Angry-> adrenalin, a sure fire way of making you stronger and remembering :clap:
6. Practise, enables me to figure out WHAT NOT TO DO, when I am alone, and help isn't nearby.
7. Now you know you can do it - no worries. It wont be something else in the back of your mind while you ride.

8. Google has a few videos how to pick up a bike, it does matter which side.

Yes I have done it a few times.

[eldog]

Generally I have found.

- There are a large percentage of people who wont stop no matter what.

- If you have been a hoon and just past a whole group of people 'dangerously' mostly they wont stop

- Most people who are involved with cars/trucks/motorvehicles as a job or interest will stop.

- If your attitude/gear gives the wrong impression quite a lot of people wont stop


Almost each time I have stopped, people have approached and helped me, which I have appreciated. Pretty lucky so far I have been able to ride home


Attitude can go a long way if your stopped by disco lights