10 new year predictions from a conspiracy realist

[flyingcrocodile46]

1. Auckland property prices will slowly decrease over the next 6 - 10 months as unemployment rates start to increase again. This will be followed by a sharp and substantial drop in property value that will see many mortgagees on shaky ground and the commencement of mortgagee sales.

2. Donald Trump will be forced out of the GOP and will run as a third-party, thus splitting the Republican vote and assuring 8 more years with a Clinton in the White House.

3. Commodities, stocks, bonds, futures markets etc will decline in value steadily. however, prices will rise for real gold and silver, exponentially as the average punters awaken to the fact that at least 90% of the gold owned by buyers throughout the world are really nothing more than unsecured promissory notes.

4. Bill Clinton will become the next Secretary-General of the United Nations, thus assuring a seamless and imminent transition to the long planed NWO. A transition that will be steered by a single husband and wife team of appalling moral standing.

5. Controlled escalation of middle east chaos and religious divisions will continue with Isis encouraged to open new fronts. Libya being the current 'front' runner as Russia and China clamp down of the Isis/turkey feeding trough in Syria.

6. Russia, and increasingly China will continue to be demonized by the worlds presstitutes and shadow govt puppets.

7. Europe will be subjected to increasing black flag terror attacks and media manipulation/biased reporting will further incite protests, demonstrations, race attacks and rampant nationalism. The European Spring will commence in earnest and the EU will start to fall apart as border closures and quota defaulting states increasingly give Brussels the big finger.

8. Internet access will become increasingly policed and restricted to restrict dissenter co-ordination around the world. Plans will commence for an already planed social credit system to control the sheeple. (google China, Social credit system for beta trial details of your future serfdom)

9. Now it has been made illegal for the Fed to bail the banks out and barber shop contingency laws have been enacted in the US, EU and others (like us groundbreaking kiwi sheeple), the too big to fail banks will commence compulsory haircuts to its depositors accounts in the US and Europe (likely here as well at some point hopefully further down the track) as their 2700 trillion dollars of derivative options start to mature and they can't meet the short falls over the next 5 or more years.

10. 2016 global temperatures will average out to be the lowest for 100 years but won't be acknowledged until late 2020 (due to ongoing data manipulation) by which time the majority of the population will have been taxed to death and have no more blood to give.

[bogan]

The same list in reverse order paints a different picture, did you do that on purpose?

[Woodman]

I made a conscious decision about 3 months ago to be uninformed about world events, so if your predictions are correct or not it won't affect my life.

[Oakie]

Thought it started out reasonable and then just got crazier.

[sidecar bob]

You're one negative motherfucker aren't you, how's that working out for you?:yawn:

[Grumph]

Well according to #8, KB's fucked so stir and troll while you can...

Edit - are you going to put this up on the GSR ? Love to see the responses there....

[bogan]

I made a conscious decision about 3 months ago to be uninformed about world events, so if your predictions are correct or not it won't affect my life.

I made the unconscious decision about 3 months ago to be informed about world events solely from KB; so I guess we're in the same boat :scratch:

[Akzle]

"promissory notes not backed by anything"

:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:


what, you mean like ALL THE FUCKEN LEGAL TENDER IN CIRCULATION?

Fucking sheeple cunts.

(insert rant about IMF jew cunts)

[mashman]

8. Internet access will become increasingly policed and restricted to restrict dissenter co-ordination around the world. Plans will commence for an already planed social credit system to control the sheeple. (google China, Social credit system for beta trial details of your future serfdom)

Will become lol... Is!

Scandinavia too:

Finland Will Pay Everyone in the Country $876 a Month (http://usuncut.com/world/finland-plans-to-pay-everyone-in-the-country-876-a-month/)

Burn your bills: Denmark wants to go cashless by 2016 (http://www.digitaltrends.com/cool-tech/denmark-going-cashless-emoney/)

[Scuba_Steve]

I made a conscious decision about 3 months ago to be uninformed about world events, so if your predictions are correct or not it won't affect my life.

... Not sure that's how it works

[mashman]

... Not sure that's how it works

Lobotomy...

[Katman]

I made a conscious decision about 3 months ago to be uninformed about world events, so if your predictions are correct or not it won't affect my life.

<img src="http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/08/23/article-0-1B24F3F2000005DC-935_634x416.jpg"/>

[Woodman]

<img src="http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/08/23/article-0-1B24F3F2000005DC-935_634x416.jpg"/>

Pictures of your girlfriend won't make me change my stance.

[Voltaire]

I made the unconscious decision about 3 months ago to be informed about world events solely from KB; so I guess we're in the same boat :scratch:
:2thumbsup
http://images.sodahead.com/profiles/0/0/1/7/8/9/5/5/3/Sheep-Politics-Dog-60423486545.jpeg

[Katman]

:2thumbsup


I suspect you're failing to see the extreme ironing in that picture.

[flyingcrocodile46]

Thought it started out reasonable and then just got crazier.

Really! That's odd because #'s 8 & 9 are by far and away the safest bet. China has already run out their Social credit system and it will be compulsory for all in 2020. If you aren't a player you won't exist. No play = no job, no welfare, no transactions. Shut out and excommunicated. Likely jail for players with negative scores. Points off for demonstrating anti social, anti govt inclinations. Fun, fun, fun, for everyone... (with lots of points).

Number 9 is already old news. Done and dusted (even the MSM told you sheeple about what happened to Greek account holders and how we wise sheep in NZ were the first to voluntarily make it law). The same/similar rules are written for most of the world now (except Iceland where they lynched the bankers instead of bailing them out). The rules will be followed when the shit next hits the fan. After all it is the law. Were you afuckingsleep again little sheep? All citizens will have their hair cut, though the degree will depend on where you live and (depending on how desperate they are) how little you have in your account. This is a prime reason why "real metal in your hand" gold & silver is going to rise exponentially in value (as the wave of awakening slowly spreads through the herd).

[flyingcrocodile46]

I suspect you're failing to see the extreme ironing in that picture.

Nah! Voltaire ain't no fool. He brought us the steam engine.

[flyingcrocodile46]

Pictures of your girlfriend won't make me change my stance.

Whoa! The catcher has spoken.

[Voltaire]

Nah! Voltaire ain't no fool. He brought us the steam engine.

Watt you on about.....

but here is a car that runs on water conspiracy for ya.

http://henrymakow.com/2013/11/Illuminati-Suppress-Water-Powered-Cars.html

[flyingcrocodile46]

Watt you on about.....

but here is a car that runs on water conspiracy for ya.

http://henrymakow.com/2013/11/Illuminati-Suppress-Water-Powered-Cars.html

Headline for a day in the herald (circa 86) about a Japanese industrial spy caught at Akld airport with blueprints for a water powered engine invented by a Mairangi Bay Water technology firm. Nothing more ever said. The company closed within a month never to be heard of again. About a year later Water Technology Ltd appeared from nowhere with Million$ of plant. Right on our back door even.

[nodrog]

Watt you on about.....

but here is a car that runs on water conspiracy for ya.

http://henrymakow.com/2013/11/Illuminati-Suppress-Water-Powered-Cars.html

remember this?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=POJQKg9CRJc

[Akzle]

. This is a prime reason why "real metal in your hand" gold & silver is going to rise exponentially in value (as the wave of awakening slowly spreads through the herd).

except it isnt worth shit. Except the faith people have in it. Which = the currency paradigm.

All it's good for is thermal imaging (gold) and sweet cutlery (silver).

In the last 15 years it's increased in "value" (price) five fold.

It's just as arbitrary as any other counting.
Stupid jew cunts.

[Katman]

And before husaberk goes searching for it......

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/174599-Alternative-fuels

[mashman]

Headline for a day in the herald (circa 86) about a Japanese industrial spy caught at Akld airport with blueprints for a water powered engine invented by a Mairangi Bay Water technology firm. Nothing more ever said. The company closed within a month never to be heard of again. About a year later Water Technology Ltd appeared from nowhere with Million$ of plant. Right on our back door even.

Aye... tip of the iceberg


In a 2001 email to Gary Vesperman, Valone wrote in part: Quote-"As a former Patent Examiner, I can tell you that the number of "securitized" patents in the vault at the Patent Office (Park 5 Bldg.) is closer to 4000 or more. They never receive a patent number, and the inventor is rarely, if ever, compensated by the government for use of the invention." The U.S. Patent Office has a nine-member committee that screens patents for national security implications. A hidden purpose of this committee is to also screen energy-related patents which could threaten the power and fossil fuel companies, -End Quote

"There were 5,135 inventions that were under secrecy orders at the end of Fiscal Year 2010, the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office told Secrecy News last week. It’s a 1% rise over the year before, and the highest total in more than a decade. Under the Invention Secrecy Act of 1951, patent applications on new inventions can be subject to secrecy orders restricting their publication if government agencies believe that disclosure would be “detrimental to the national security.”" (http://www.panacea-bocaf.org/patentoffice.htm)

[bogan]

And before husaberk goes searching for it......

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/174599-Alternative-fuels

hehehe, fuck that was a funny thread. Let's do that again, have you got any new <s>scams</s> free energy technology you'd like to share to get the ball perpetually rolling? :rofl:

[Katman]

hehehe, fuck that was a funny thread. Let's do that again, have you got any new <s>scams</s> free energy technology you'd like to share to get the ball perpetually rolling? :rofl:

I think the Patent Office has plenty - but they're not sharing.

[bogan]

I think the Patent Office has plenty - but they're not sharing.

I don't think you understand how patents work then, cos patents is protection by shared information and litigation based on that :killingme

[Katman]

I don't think you understand how patents work then, cos patents is protection by shared information and litigation based on that :killingme

Did you not see the post immediately before your previous one?

[bogan]

Did you not see the post immediately before your previous one?

No, but contextually, it was just conspiracy theory anyway.

It's not living up to your other thread so far, there's the lack of understanding and the rage against tptb, but without the technical stuff and scam artist to chuckle at; it's just a bit beige.

[mashman]

No, but contextually, it was just conspiracy theory anyway.

Have a summary :rofl:

"Tom Valone is a former patent examiner who was fired years ago from the patent office and recently won a lawsuit against the US Patent Office. Tom was awarded reinstatement and six years of back pay. Dr Thomas Valone estimated that patent applications for FREE ENERGY related technology have been "secretized" over 3,000 times over the years.".

No doubt you'll say that it was a 6 year fictitious court case huh :killingme.

[bogan]

Have a summary :rofl:

"Tom Valone is a former patent examiner who was fired years ago from the patent office and recently won a lawsuit against the US Patent Office. Tom was awarded reinstatement and six years of back pay. Dr Thomas Valone estimated that patent applications for FREE ENERGY related technology have been "secretized" over 3,000 times over the years.".

No doubt you'll say that it was a 6 year fictitious court case huh :killingme.

Yet not one decided to forgo patent protection and just make it open source; just proves these FREE ENERGY designers weren't about the freedom at all :laugh:

[mashman]

Yet not one decided to forgo patent protection and just make it open source; just proves these FREE ENERGY designers weren't about the freedom at all :laugh:

And be thrown in jail for their invention being “detrimental to the national security.”? I see you thought that through with your usual high level of critical thinking :killingme.

[bogan]

And be thrown in jail for their invention being “detrimental to the national security.”? I see you thought that through with your usual high level of critical thinking :killingme.

A) That's not a thing.
B) The act only applies to inventions which patents have been applied for.
C) Patents don't have to have a working model. (ie, I could go and patent a free energy design tomorrow, doesn't meant it would work).
D) Patent secrecy is pretty much unenforceable if the owner wants to release it
E) The act only applies in the US
F) for fuck you guys are morons
G) for Geet, the previous 'sure thing'
H) for that shit was a demonstrable hoax
I) for ins't that guy now incarcerated for being a shifty as fuck scam artist?
J) for Jesus, cos murica

[mashman]

A) That's not a thing.
B) The act only applies to inventions which patents have been applied for.
C) Patents don't have to have a working model. (ie, I could go and patent a free energy design tomorrow, doesn't meant it would work).
D) Patent secrecy is pretty much unenforceable if the owner wants to release it
E) The act only applies in the US
F) for fuck you guys are morons
G) for Geet, the previous 'sure thing'
H) for that shit was a demonstrable hoax
I) for ins't that guy now incarcerated for being a shifty as fuck scam artist?
J) for Jesus, cos murica

You're absolutely right on all counts.

[jonbuoy]

Your not predicting anything positive in the next 10 years at all or is this just highlighting the negative parts of the next 10 years?

[Katman]

Comprehension fail.

[jonbuoy]

Comprehension fail.

How so?? Sounds like pessimism more than realism.

[Katman]

How so?? Sounds like pessimism more than realism.

Read the title of the thread again - this time slowly.

[Katman]

The act only applies to inventions which patents have been applied for.

So how did all those patents end up in the top secret drawer at the Patent Office if they weren't applied for?

[jonbuoy]

Read the title of the thread again - this time slowly.



10 new year predictions written by a conspiracy realist. Not 10 years of conspiracy theories. So why only negative predictions?

[Tazz]

Aren't decreasing unemployment rates a good thing :scratch:


1. Auckland property prices will slowly decrease over the next 6 - 10 months as unemployment rates start to decrease again. This will be followed by a sharp and substantial drop in property value that will see many mortgagees on shaky ground and the commencement of mortgagee sales.

[sidecar bob]

Aren't decreasing unemployment rates a good thing :scratch:

Not if your job happens to be being unemployed.

[Woodman]

So how did all those patents end up in the top secret drawer at the Patent Office if they weren't applied for?

Where are the working models?

[Akzle]

Aren't decreasing unemployment rates a good thing :scratch:

no. an saturated labour market causes inflation and relative wage decreases.


yay jew money economoney!

[flyingcrocodile46]

10 new year predictions written by a conspiracy realist. Not 10 years of conspiracy theories. So why only negative predictions?

Unless you think global warming is a good thing, number 10 is positive. Sheesh! talk about seeing the world through poo tinted lenses :laugh::laugh:

[flyingcrocodile46]

Where are the working models?

Geeze Wayne. Grow a brain then learn to drive it.

[flyingcrocodile46]

Aren't decreasing unemployment rates a good thing :scratch:


Doh! Rushing to fix it now.

[flyingcrocodile46]

except it isnt worth shit. Except the faith people have in it. Which = the currency paradigm.

All it's good for is thermal imaging (gold) and sweet cutlery (silver).

In the last 15 years it's increased in "value" (price) five fold.

It's just as arbitrary as any other counting.
Stupid jew cunts.

Try googling colloidal and montomic silver and gold. both have been used as a form of antibiotic (and other health boosting uses) for many centuries. Colloidal silver is thought to be behind the rise of the term 'Blue bloods' as it will turn your skin blue if you over indulge. It is also valued for connections in high end electronic components. I doubt that computer cpu's would be half what they are without gold.

Check out papa Smurf. Died a couple of years ago (heavy drinking and smoking led to a heart attack and pneumonia)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahihGKZC5Kk

[Woodman]

Geeze Wayne. Grow a brain then learn to drive it.

Cool answer bro, but lets consider that I don't have a brain and you tell me, because I struggle with the thought that all these inventions have been put through the patent office and then taken off the inventor and never seeing the light of day again. Some of the inventions may well have been invented more than once and the patent office wasn't even involved, so there must be some stuff on youtube somewhere? Or maybe like Bogan says they were never built in the first place and are just ideas.

[jonbuoy]

Unless you think global warming is a good thing, number 10 is positive. Sheesh! talk about seeing the world through poo tinted lenses :laugh::laugh:

Yet somehow you even put a negative spin on it.

[flyingcrocodile46]

Yet somehow you even put a negative spin on it.
That's just realism kicking in and your poo tinted lenses.

[bogan]

So how did all those patents end up in the top secret drawer at the Patent Office if they weren't applied for?

Of course they were applied for, how else is the act going to come into effect. Patent offices don't have the power to forcibly apply a patent, which is why trade secrets are a thing, and also open source.

[FJRider]

Cool answer bro, but lets consider that I don't have a brain and you tell me, because I struggle with the thought that all these inventions have been put through the patent office and then taken off the inventor and never seeing the light of day again.

An example ... If somebody came up with a recipe to construct tyres that last twice as long as the current types ... who would be interested in buying (and having the required financial interest/gain) to buy the Patent ... and then bury it. And why .. ???

The trend of manufacturers to build products that are easier/cheaper to replace than repair ... is not a coincidence.

I do find it interesting that a conspiracy realist would consider Auckland's housing cost issues ... a real world problem.

[flyingcrocodile46]

Cool answer bro, but lets consider that I don't have a brain and you tell me, because I struggle with the thought that all these inventions have been put through the patent office and then taken off the inventor and never seeing the light of day again. Some of the inventions may well have been invented more than once and the patent office wasn't even involved, so there must be some stuff on youtube somewhere? Or maybe like Bogan says they were never built in the first place and are just ideas.

The problem is that you aren't connecting the logic dots.

If the govt decides to lock your patent away under the pretense of 'national security' do you really think they are going to let you keep (let alone showcase) a working model for people to copy? Really?

Some inventions have been invented multiple times. The original patent holder gets his patent locked away and any following patent applicants (for the same or similar inventions) are told that their patent is too similar to an already approved (but hidden) patent. They are given scant details of the original and told that any attempt to produce their similar invention (or disclose details of it to others) as to do so will result in prosecution and/or imprisonment as it would be a breach of the first patent holders rights and also a threat to national security.

There are plenty of worthy and less worthy news articles, docos, and youtube videos about this happening to many inventors. Google them if you seriously want to learn about them and make up your own mind which are the more worthy. Anti gravity, petrol motors etc. Some of the better ones are alternative carburetor designs that allow vehicles to increase their mileage per gallon by several factors. One was even pulled out of the safe by the US govt and put into production (for a limited time when supply and logistics required) for Tanks during WW2. Google is your friend.

[bogan]

An example ... If somebody came up with a recipe to construct tyres that last twice as long as the current types ... who would be interested in buying (and having the required financial interest/gain) to buy the Patent ... and then bury it. And why .. ???

The trend of manufacturers to build products that are easier/cheaper to replace than repair ... is not a coincidence.

I do find it interesting that a conspiracy realist would consider Auckland's housing cost issues ... a real world problem.

That's not 'taken' off the inventor though.

Unless big tyre treads on the little guy by paying off the CIA to tell the PO to make NSA put it on the wartime secrets list. But I think that sort of theory lacks traction, goes up in smoke you might even say.

[huff3r]

The problem is that you aren't connecting the logic dots.

If the govt decides to lock your patent away under the pretense of 'national security' do you really think they are going to let you keep (let alone showcase) a working model for people to copy? Really?

Some inventions have been invented multiple times. The original patent holder gets his patent locked away and any following patent applicants (for the same or similar inventions) are told that their patent is too similar to an already approved (but hidden) patent. They are given scant details of the original and told that any attempt to produce their similar invention (or disclose details of it to others) as to do so will result in prosecution and/or imprisonment as it would be a breach of the first patent holders rights and also a threat to national security.

There are plenty of worthy and less worthy news articles, docos, and youtube videos about this happening to many inventors. Google them if you seriously want to learn about them and make up your own mind which are the more worthy. Anti gravity, petrol motors etc. Some of the better ones are alternative carburetor designs that allow vehicles to increase their mileage per gallon by several factors. One was even pulled out of the safe by the US govt and put into production (for a limited time when supply and logistics required) for Tanks during WW2. Google is your friend.

And all of this "evidence" is just more nutjobs like you spouting made up (or completely misunderstood) shit because they lack a substantial life, and feel the need to seek some form of validation from their "peers".

Prior to the internet the spread of such bullshit was much less severe, and such people were stuck with their geeky home-made wireless that they desperately hoped someone would listen to. Not realising people only ever listened for the lols.

Although I agree with the global warming is bullshit one though, its been proven time and again that the raw data has been manipulated but it makes greenpeace lots of money so they shove it down everyones throats until now everyone believes it as a fact.

[Woodman]

The problem is that you aren't connecting the logic dots.

If the govt decides to lock your patent away under the pretense of 'national security' do you really think they are going to let you keep (let alone showcase) a working model for people to copy? Really?

Some inventions have been invented multiple times. The original patent holder gets his patent locked away and any following patent applicants (for the same or similar inventions) are told that their patent is too similar to an already approved (but hidden) patent. They are given scant details of the original and told that any attempt to produce their similar invention (or disclose details of it to others) as to do so will result in prosecution and/or imprisonment as it would be a breach of the first patent holders rights and also a threat to national security.

There are plenty of worthy and less worthy news articles, docos, and youtube videos about this happening to many inventors. Google them if you seriously want to learn about them and make up your own mind which are the more worthy. Anti gravity, petrol motors etc. Some of the better ones are alternative carburetor designs that allow vehicles to increase their mileage per gallon by several factors. One was even pulled out of the safe by the US govt and put into production (for a limited time when supply and logistics required) for Tanks during WW2. Google is your friend.

Thankyou. So if I invent say a water powered engine for shits and giggles and display it on youtube because I think its cool but it has been locked away under the pretense of national security, so I should expect "them" to come around, threaten me and take it away?

[jonbuoy]

That's just realism kicking in and your poo tinted lenses.

Nope I´m positive about the future. Its you that seems to scour the internet looking for negativity.

[Katman]

And all of this "evidence" is just more nutjobs like you spouting made up (or completely misunderstood) shit because they lack a substantial life, and feel the need to seek some form of validation from their "peers".

Prior to the internet the spread of such bullshit was much less severe, and such people were stuck with their geeky home-made wireless that they desperately hoped someone would listen to. Not realising people only ever listened for the lols.

Although I agree with the global warming is bullshit one though, its been proven time and again that the raw data has been manipulated but it makes greenpeace lots of money so they shove it down everyones throats until now everyone believes it as a fact.

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[Ocean1]

10 new year predictions from a conspiracy disciple.

"Massive digital misinformation is becoming pervasive in online
social media to the extent that it has been listed by the
World Economic Forum (WEF) as one of the main threats
to our society"

http://arxiv.org/pdf/1509.00189.pdf

Or, to paraphrase: Bollox.

[bogan]

"Massive digital misinformation is becoming pervasive in online
social media to the extent that it has been listed by the
World Economic Forum (WEF) as one of the main threats
to our society"

http://arxiv.org/pdf/1509.00189.pdf

Or, to paraphrase: Bollox.

Interesting read, is KB an echo chamber for conspiracy theorists? and are we providing the walls to facilitate such echos simply by showing them how wrong they are?

[Scuba_Steve]

"Massive digital misinformation is becoming pervasive in online
social media to the extent that it has been listed by the
World Economic Forum (WEF) as one of the main threats
to our society"

http://arxiv.org/pdf/1509.00189.pdf

Or, to paraphrase: Bollox.

Misinformations been round for fucking ages, half the shit you believe is based off of it; Govts love spreading it & people love listening to it. The only thing to change is the "power houses of bullshit" now have more competition due to teh interwebs, anyone with a loud enough voice can now spread misinformation & half the time the propaganda machine will run with it too making the spread "viral"

[Ocean1]

Interesting read, is KB an echo chamber for conspiracy theorists? and are we providing the walls to facilitate such echos simply by showing them how wrong they are?

Yeah. If only there was a vaccine for confirmation bias...

[mashman]

"Massive digital misinformation is becoming pervasive in online
social media to the extent that it has been listed by the
World Economic Forum (WEF) as one of the main threats
to our society"

http://arxiv.org/pdf/1509.00189.pdf

Or, to paraphrase: Bollox.

"Likes" :killingme...

[flyingcrocodile46]

"Massive digital misinformation is becoming pervasive in online
social media to the extent that it has been listed by the
World Economic Forum (WEF) as one of the main threats
to our society"

http://arxiv.org/pdf/1509.00189.pdf

Or, to paraphrase: Bollox.

And even more threatening threat deterrents to accompany the demonizing strategy. They're a step ahead of the game all the time. Watch and weep.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3kYqmvbGjM&feature=em-uploademail

[flyingcrocodile46]

Nope I´m positive about the future. Its you that seems to scour the internet looking for negativity.

Cognitive dissonance much! :rolleyes:

[flyingcrocodile46]

Thankyou. So if I invent say a water powered engine for shits and giggles and display it on youtube because I think its cool but it has been locked away under the pretense of national security, so I should expect "them" to come around, threaten me and take it away?

The quality of your endless questions don't get any better over time.

[flyingcrocodile46]

http://www.perendalenz.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/Sheep-single.jpg


Nailed. :laugh:

Ya know they love it when they push back hard.

[bogan]

And even more threatening threat deterrents to accompany the demonizing strategy. They're a step ahead of the game all the time. Watch and weep.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3kYqmvbGjM&feature=em-uploademail

What I don't get, is why the people who think all this tech is evil and is being monitored, blah blah blah, think posting online about it is a good idea. Surely your continued posting about this stuff is proof positive the monitoring and censoring is not a thing :scratch:

Let's face it, by the time computer programs are sophisticated enough to suffer through all that is online, and all that is monitored, and all that is. They'll be sophisticated and mature enough to prevent any who would use this information for nefarious means.

[Ocean1]

And even more threatening threat deterrents to accompany the demonizing strategy. They're a step ahead of the game all the time. Watch and weep.

Nothing secret or new about that, dude.

My grandmother would point out people on the street who's eyes were too close together all the time.

[flyingcrocodile46]

What I don't get, is why the people who think all this tech is evil and is being monitored, blah blah blah, think posting online about it is a good idea. Surely your continued posting about this stuff is proof positive the monitoring and censoring is not a thing :scratch:

Let's face it, by the time computer programs are sophisticated enough to suffer through all that is online, and all that is monitored, and all that is. They'll be sophisticated and mature enough to prevent any who would use this information for nefarious means.

Wow! spread eagled and fully lubed. That is fucking sad. :no:

[bogan]

Wow! spread eagled and fully lubed. That is fucking sad. :no:

Just the tip, when somebody responds to your post with critical thinking and logic, it's not a good look to try and bully them into accepting your ways with insults like that, or like the sheeple one, or like the other beige insults so often thrown about.

Especially considering the point you seem to be trying to make; is to question motives, to think critically instead of swallowing a story whole, to become aware of the full story, not somebody else's full (of shit) story. Perhaps your real message is you want people to be your sheeple, to swallow your stories whole rather than make their own evaluations on the 'content' you post.

[Woodman]

The quality of your endless questions don't get any better over time.

They are just questions, yes possibly badly worded, but I actually find you quite entertaining, but for future reference would you rather that all posters in your threads just agreed with you and didn't ask questions?

[bogan]

They are just questions, yes possibly badly worded, but I actually find you quite entertaining, but for future reference would you rather that all posters in your threads just agreed with you and didn't ask questions?

To be fair, he might have meant your questions were always of excellent quality; so in truth they perhaps haven't gotten better over time.

So it may just be a reluctant acquiescence to the inescapable logic and critical thinking found within a simple question, which should give anyone cause to doubt the notion that such worldly beneficial technology could be stifled.

[jonbuoy]

Cognitive dissonance much! :rolleyes:

Where is the cognitive dissonance in my post?

[Voltaire]

Rant and Rave Poster busy at their KB's :lol:

http://mrjam.typepad.com/.a/6a00d8341c00c753ef011570a76ec6970c-pi

[seattle smitty]

(Oops, dang, gotta get some coffee in me, here I thought I was reading in the Jokes and Humor section . . . )

[TheDemonLord]

Rant and Rave Poster busy at their KB's :lol:

The Billion dollar question is - who are the sheep?

[mashman]

The Billion dollar question is - who are the sheep?

If you have to ask...

[Voltaire]

maaaaaa
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/87/b2/80/87b280a51a77c1fc9d02b5aa0b44b9df.jpg

Here is the top 10:

The JFK Assassination
9/11 Cover-Up
Area 51 and the Aliens
Paul Is Dead
Secret Societies Control the World
The Moon Landings Were Faked
Jesus and Mary Magdalene
Holocaust Revisionism
The CIA and AIDS
The Reptilian Elite

" I buried Paul..." mwahaaaa....

[TheDemonLord]

If you have to ask...

Not really - each side labels the other as sheep, post up evidence in support of this, and unanimously reject the counter evidence of the other side in rebuttal.

When then leads back to the philosophical question - who are the Sheep?

[Swoop]

Where is the cognitive dissonance in my post?
At the receiving end (wearing the tinfoil hat).:rolleyes:

TOP PREDICTION FOR 2016: Conspiracists' will slowly be removed from society, using the simplest form of elimination that will not attract attention*.








* Conspiracists: You already know what that is and are also aware that you have no control over it OR the outcome.

[mashman]

Not really - each side labels the other as sheep, post up evidence in support of this, and unanimously reject the counter evidence of the other side in rebuttal.

When then leads back to the philosophical question - who are the Sheep?

Ah, I see you haven't got a clue what you're talking about. As an example: Katman accepts that the official 9/11 story might actually be closer to the truth than any of the OTHER theories that could also hold water. That probability may well be minuscule, but, the opposite is You. You bury your head up your arse and happily lap at the seminal fluid that was recently deposited without question.

Like I said, if you have to ask.

[bogan]

If you have to ask...

... you probably haven't swallowed a story whole without thinking critically :innocent:

[mashman]

... you probably haven't swallowed a story whole without thinking critically :innocent:

True...........

[Woodman]

Ah, I see you haven't got a clue what you're talking about. As an example: Katman accepts that the official 9/11 story might actually be closer to the truth than any of the OTHER theories that could also hold water. That probability may well be minuscule, but, the opposite is You. You bury your head up your arse and happily lap at the seminal fluid that was recently deposited without question.

Like I said, if you have to ask.

Oh, I thought Demonlord just questioned some of the theories that Katman etc come up with without actually stating his own position.

[mashman]

Oh, I thought Demonlord just questioned some of the theories that Katman etc come up with without actually stating his own position.

I hadn't noticed.

[TheDemonLord]

Oh, I thought Demonlord just questioned some of the theories that Katman etc come up with without actually stating his own position.

As a point of clarification - I've stated my own position numerous times:

I suspect the US had more forewarning than they will ever admit, the report won't be 100% accurate (no report ever is), Complacency and a belief in the impregnability of the US account for all the 'anomolies' that CT often cite as proof of conspiracy, America fucked up its own chance after 9/11 to actually build a relationship with the countries in the middle east (the ones that were historically unhelpful to the US actually felt sorry for a short period of time) and that GWB was and still is a Muppet.

I've even acknowledged that my suspicions have nothing of a factual basis or evidence basis except the experience of working in a big organization and seeing the difference between what actually happened vs what gets told to the customers.

The big details like planes flew into the buildings, the building collapsed without explosives etc. are the most reasonable explanation and that nothing the CT crowd has ever offered as an alternative stands up to scrutiny.

[mashman]

As a point of clarification - I've stated my own position numerous times:

I suspect the US had more forewarning than they will ever admit, the report won't be 100% accurate (no report ever is), Complacency and a belief in the impregnability of the US account for all the 'anomolies' that CT often cite as proof of conspiracy, America fucked up its own chance after 9/11 to actually build a relationship with the countries in the middle east (the ones that were historically unhelpful to the US actually felt sorry for a short period of time) and that GWB was and still is a Muppet.

I've even acknowledged that my suspicions have nothing of a factual basis or evidence basis except the experience of working in a big organization and seeing the difference between what actually happened vs what gets told to the customers.

The big details like planes flew into the buildings, the building collapsed without explosives etc. are the most reasonable explanation and that nothing the CT crowd has ever offered as an alternative stands up to scrutiny.

Was this guy a Conspiracy Theorist or did he just misread a memo? Most reasonable? Yet thousands of architects, demolition, engineering etc... professionals state otherwise and are happy to put their careers on the line to prove so.

http://static1.squarespace.com/static/50469424c4aae834ae6459dc/t/5555209ce4b0a75611e86039/1431642272221/William_Cooper+911+sept+11th.jpg?format=750w

[TheDemonLord]

Was this guy a Conspiracy Theorist or did he just misread a memo? Most reasonable? Yet thousands of architects, demolition, engineering etc... professionals state otherwise and are happy to put their careers on the line to prove so.

a quick search about him indicates - yeah, he was a Conspiracy theorist - especially when from Conspiracy sources (so not the MSM) give multiple reasons for his death:

9/11
Serving of a Warrant
Revealing details about the Navy
Aliens
Illuminati

Thousands of Engineers and Architechts, Demonlition experts (you forgot Pilots) say its wrong - well they MUST be right....

If you want to discuss 9/11 you know where the thread is - I'll just leave with a comment about some of those 'truth' sites - a not insignificant number of them state that they knew it was a false flag operation/conspiracy as soon as they heard that a plane had struck the towers (or similar words to that effect).

which speaks volumes about what preconceptions they hold.

[mashman]

a quick search about him indicates - yeah, he was a Conspiracy theorist - especially when from Conspiracy sources (so not the MSM) give multiple reasons for his death:

9/11
Serving of a Warrant
Revealing details about the Navy
Aliens
Illuminati

Thousands of Engineers and Architechts, Demonlition experts (you forgot Pilots) say its wrong - well they MUST be right....

If you want to discuss 9/11 you know where the thread is - I'll just leave with a comment about some of those 'truth' sites - a not insignificant number of them state that they knew it was a false flag operation/conspiracy as soon as they heard that a plane had struck the towers (or similar words to that effect).

which speaks volumes about what preconceptions they hold.

So he was a liar then.

No, they need to be heard as they have that evidence stuff you claim to rely on.

You brought it up. I was using that "conspiracy" as an example wrt Katman, supreme conspirator of the galaxy.

[TheDemonLord]

So he was a liar then

No, they need to be heard as they have that evidence stuff you claim to rely on.

You brought it up. I was using that "conspiracy" as an example wrt Katman, supreme conspirator of the galaxy.

Going off the various claims he makes - I think suggesting he was someone with Delusional Disorder is more likely than just a garden variety liar....

As for the Evidence - from what I have seen (and Katman has posted up) it is laughable. Hell, I remember one bit of evidence (a supposed remote detonating unit) where even other conspiracy theorists were even pointing out that the unit they were promoting on the front page of their website couldn't do the things they claimed it could, and yet it is still there, pulling the wool over all the Conspiracy Sheeple's Eyes.

[J.A.W.]

Going off the various claims he makes - I think suggesting he was someone with Delusional Disorder is more likely than just a garden variety liar.... As for the Evidence - ...it is laughable.


Ok, amateur diagnostician.. how'd you rate yourself on that liar-deluded scale?

You do realize that even the Roman engineer & concrete master responsible for the yet still standing in Rome,
magnificent Pantheon - would be proud of how massively concrete your thought processes are..

& yeah, how'd you go on that AQ test? Be honest now..

[bogan]

Ok, amateur diagnostician.. how'd you rate yourself on that liar-deluded scale?

You do realize that even the Roman engineer & concrete master responsible for the yet still standing in Rome,
magnificent Pantheon - would be proud of how massively concrete your thought processes are..

& yeah, how'd you go on that AQ test? Be honest now..

If one were to rate oneself as deluded, would that not negate the delusion :scratch:

And if one were to rate oneself as a liar, why wouldn't they just lie instead :confused:

So, I guess about a 5i

[TheDemonLord]

Ok, amateur diagnostician.. how'd you rate yourself on that liar-deluded scale?

You do realize that even the Roman engineer & concrete master responsible for the yet still standing in Rome,
magnificent Pantheon - would be proud of how massively concrete your thought processes are..

& yeah, how'd you go on that AQ test? Be honest now..

What AQ Test?

[J.A.W.]

If one were to rate oneself as deluded, would that not negate the delusion :scratch:

And if one were to rate oneself as a liar, why wouldn't they just lie instead :confused:

So, I guess about a 5i


Such guesses by someone who uses "irregardless" - sans knowing irony - are to be consigned to the moot bin..

Unless, of course, a valid "citation" is included.. L.O.L...

[J.A.W.]

What AQ Test?


Yeah right.. Dr Baron-Cohen's AQ test, available free online, & as if you didn't know.. disingenuous much there, TDS..

[TheDemonLord]

Yeah right.. Dr Baron-Cohen's AQ test, available free online, & as if you didn't know.. disingenuous much there, TDS..

28 - how does that effect your Internet diagnoses?

[J.A.W.]

28 - how does that effect your Internet diagnoses?

C'mon fella, too much THC gettin' to ya?
At least try..

Now if you actually meant to ask.. "How does your internet diagnosis affect my prognosis" -then that is quite different..

But, also irrelevant, since the AQ self-test is for your own elucidation..

& ours, if you're honest ( or not) - about the results you got..

[Katman]

If you want to discuss 9/11 you know where the thread is - I'll just leave with a comment about some of those 'truth' sites - a not insignificant number of them state that they knew it was a false flag operation/conspiracy as soon as they heard that a plane had struck the towers (or similar words to that effect).

which speaks volumes about what preconceptions they hold.

What a load of shit.

That's just your own spin you're putting on it as an excuse for refusing to leave the flock.

And if you are talking preconceptions, automatically labelling anyone who questions an official story as a tin foil hat wearing conspiracy theorist is just that - a preconception.

[Katman]

And furthermore, anyone who claims that the JFK assassination happened just like the official story tells us it did, has either done no research on the matter or is fucking brain dead.

[Voltaire]

And furthermore, anyone who claims that the JFK assassination happened just like the official story tells us it did, has either done no research on the matter or is fucking brain dead.

Refresh my dead brain in a couple of lines what happened .

Did the Kennedy assassination make any difference ?

The biggest conspiracy is that there is a God, Billions buy into it, billions are made out of it, millions die because of it, yet there is no evidence.

I got of the church bandwagon nearly 40 years ago but don't feel the need to go on and on about it.

[TheDemonLord]

C'mon fella, too much THC gettin' to ya?
At least try..

Now if you actually meant to ask.. "How does your internet diagnosis affect my prognosis" -then that is quite different..

But, also irrelevant, since the AQ self-test is for your own elucidation..

& ours, if you're honest ( or not) - about the results you got..

No, I was actually being sarcastic - I've known for years that I've got various personality traits that could indicate a mild form of Aspergers/Autism, and guess what? I couldn't give two fucks. The point that you so brilliantly missed was that you are talking out of your arse and don't know shit.

[TheDemonLord]

What a load of shit.

That's just your own spin you're putting on it as an excuse for refusing to leave the flock.

And if you are talking preconceptions, automatically labelling anyone who questions an official story as a tin foil hat wearing conspiracy theorist is just that - a preconception.

You can call it Spin - but I call it a pattern - of those that left a comment about why they chose to put their name forward, I saw the same sentiments time and time again - that they knew exactly what had happened as soon as they heard about it, as opposed to when they had had a chance to evaluate the evidence.

If you can't understand that this shows that a not insignificant number of people on those sites had preconceived beliefs, well - I believe the phrase that you are always ready to throw out is 'Cognitive Dissonance'

finally as for labelling anyone who questions the official story a Conspiracy Theorist - not at all. Questioning the official story is Skepticism - making up alternatives based on subjective, false or shaky evidence because it fits your warped preconceived world view - THAT is what makes me label you as a Conspiracy theorist (and a Nut Job for that matter)

[Woodman]

What a load of shit.

That's just your own spin you're putting on it as an excuse for refusing to leave the flock and joining another flock.

And if you are talking preconceptions, automatically labelling anyone who questions an official story as a tin foil hat wearing conspiracy theorist is just that - a preconception.


Fixed................

[Katman]

I've known for years that I've got various personality traits that could indicate a mild form of Aspergers/Autism, and guess what? I couldn't give two fucks.

Ah, it's all starting to make sense now.

(I'd question your use of the word 'mild' though).

[mashman]

Going off the various claims he makes - I think suggesting he was someone with Delusional Disorder is more likely than just a garden variety liar....

As for the Evidence - from what I have seen (and Katman has posted up) it is laughable. Hell, I remember one bit of evidence (a supposed remote detonating unit) where even other conspiracy theorists were even pointing out that the unit they were promoting on the front page of their website couldn't do the things they claimed it could, and yet it is still there, pulling the wool over all the Conspiracy Sheeple's Eyes.

He's yet another that says read what you read and make your own mind up. I grant you there's a certain degree of faith required to read his stuff, but he points highlights that himself and that's hardly surprising given the direction his research took. Sure he was paranoid, who wouldn't be, yet he still exhibits the qualities of someone conducting research with a scientific approach. Of course that may well not be the case and he may well have been one of the first disinformation agents that now troll the net. Decisions decisions.

"It is the only explanation which shows the chronology of events and demonstrates that the chronologies, when assembled, match perfectly. The bulk of this I believe to be true if the material that I viewed in the Navy is authentic. As for the rest, I do not know, and that is why this paper must be termed a hypothesis." - Cooper

I agree some of what he posts looks far fetched, and that that will hold until the day that the first ET lands on our doorstep. But when that happens (delusional optimism ;)), everything will be up for grabs and all of that research done by the "conspiracists" will take on an entirely different footing. Yet even on that day he, and I, and you and many others who have faith in things that can't be proven (yet due to "national security") will still be wrong about some of those things.

[mashman]

Did the Kennedy assassination make any difference ?

No, but his life would have. He was one hell of a conspiracy theorist given mind (http://www.thepowerhour.com/news3/JFK-SecrecyAndSecretSocietiesAndMIcomplex.mp3)... 5 minute JFK speech.

[bogan]

Such guesses by someone who uses "irregardless" - sans knowing irony - are to be consigned to the moot bin..

Unless, of course, a valid "citation" is included.. L.O.L...

Don't pay no nevermind, I just sneaked that one in there for a laugh...

[Voltaire]

No, but his life would have. He was one hell of a conspiracy theorist given mind (http://www.thepowerhour.com/news3/JFK-SecrecyAndSecretSocietiesAndMIcomplex.mp3)... 5 minute JFK speech.

Kennedys Dad seemed nice enough....:innocent:

http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/the-bootleg-politician-he-could-have-anything-he-wanted-except-the-thing-he-wanted-most-so-joe-1556722.html

[TheDemonLord]

Ah, it's all starting to make sense now.

(I'd question your use of the word 'mild' though).

You know, the personnality traits that I have that could indicate mild Autism/Aspergers?

There the same traits that people such as Newton, Turing etc. had.

So thanks for the compliment :msn-wink:

[Katman]

You know, the personnality traits that I have that could indicate mild Autism/Aspergers?

There the same traits that people such as Newton, Turing etc. had.

So thanks for the compliment :msn-wink:

Don't get too carried away.

I think you'll find they're more in line with the traits that husaberk has.

[bogan]

28 - how does that effect your Internet diagnoses?

17, score's like golf right?

Couple of those were a little tricky though, like doing things the same way. I'm not all OCD about doing them the same way just for sameness's sake, but once the right way is established, why would you do the thing any other way :scratch:

[TheDemonLord]

Don't get too carried away.

I think you'll find they're more in line with the traits that husaberk has.

You are full of compliments today! Must be a new years resolution....

[Akzle]

I think you'll find they're more in line with the traits that husaberk has.


You are full of compliments today!

you queer fuck.

[mashman]

Kennedys Dad seemed nice enough....:innocent:

http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/the-bootleg-politician-he-could-have-anything-he-wanted-except-the-thing-he-wanted-most-so-joe-1556722.html

Sounds like a few people I went to school with... minus the vast sums of money that is.

[Voltaire]

Sounds like a few people I went to school with... minus the vast sums of money that is.

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to mashman again.:2thumbsup

Donald Trump would have a similar background me thinks.... The US will probably look back on Obama as the only decent President they have had in a long long time.

[Woodman]

Why is there so much interest in what happens in America?

[Katman]

Why is there so much interest in what happens in America?

Call me weird but I'm interested in what happens in the world.

:wacko:

[Woodman]

Call me weird but I'm interested in what happens in the world.

:wacko:


As a recent convert to apathy and being uninformed, take it from me when I say that my way is a lot less hassle and stress. In fact it is a much more natural existence as we were never designed to be so informed.

[Katman]

17, score's like golf right?

What a shame you only ever score bogies.

[Akzle]

As a recent convert to apathy and being uninformed, take it from me when I say that my way is a lot less hassle and stress. In fact it is a much more natural existence as we were never designed to be so informed.

insert john lajoie, not giving a fuck video.

[Katman]

As a recent convert to apathy and being uninformed, take it from me when I say that my way is a lot less hassle and stress. In fact it is a much more natural existence as we were never designed to be so informed.

Don't go against the flow bro.

<img src="https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/cf/3f/c1/cf3fc1253eda71988e64967116751606.jpg"/>

[oldrider]

As a recent convert to apathy and being uninformed, take it from me when I say that my way is a lot less hassle and stress. In fact it is a much more natural existence as we were never designed to be so informed.

That is why the ostrich has a small head and a long neck (to reach the sand) - do you perchance admire the behaviour of three monkeys as well? :scratch: Free choice!

[bogan]

What a shame you only ever score bogies.

Musta missed one then...

[Woodman]

Got 15, so below average..

[mashman]

insert john lajoie, not giving a fuck video.

I was gonna go with


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ER6uv2xtuCg

[Voltaire]

Why is there so much interest in what happens in America?

Ok, lets keep it local, can your local Jihadist not pay a visit to Nick Smiths office...

[J.A.W.]

Ok, lets keep it local, can your local Jihadist not pay a visit to Nick Smiths office...

"Pay"?

Whaaa?

Surely - you cannot be suggesting that the Nats are doing an Act party, ah, routine, & taking money for 'influence' intercourse?L.O.L...

[SPman]

Yeah right.. Dr Baron-Cohen's AQ test, available free online, & as if you didn't know.. disingenuous much there, TDS.. Any relation to Sacha...?

[J.A.W.]

Any relation to Sacha...?

Sure is, cousins..