Motorbike tent

[haydes55]

This is a pretty good idea for camping knowing the bike is safe

CLICK HERE TO LEARN MORE (http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00A79BZOE/?tag=051-20)

[Akzle]

pretty gay. Whats wrong with a fly?

[eldog]

pretty gay. Whats wrong with a fly?

Thanks Haydes, apart from no floor doesn't look too bad. Wondered how it packs down

Akzle - point us to what you consider a better option

I am considering to camp overnight on longer trips, like Tazz and Jatz do

More investigation required.....

[swarfie]

Thanks Haydes, apart from no floor doesn't look too bad. Wondered how it packs down

Akzle - point us to what you consider a better option

I am considering to camp overnight on longer trips, like Tazz and Jatz do

More investigation required.....

Look at the second view in the add, looks like it would have a floor in the sleeping part of the tent.:niceone:

[Akzle]

Thanks Haydes, apart from no floor doesn't look too bad. Wondered how it packs down

Akzle - point us to what you consider a better option

I am considering to camp overnight on longer trips, like Tazz and Jatz do


a fly. Which has no floor.

http://www.flamesonmytank.co.za/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/stealth-camper-tent-53-500.jpg

Suppose it depends where you go, and how much of a blouse you are. and i dont tie it to the bike incase it falls over. And mine's green.
Much MUCH less to carry. Srsly, poles and shit??

Another pic of haydes'
http://ridermagazine.wpengine.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/web-Redverz-Series-II-Expedition-Tent.jpg

[eldog]

a fly. Which has no floor.

http://www.flamesonmytank.co.za/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/stealth-camper-tent-53-500.jpg

Suppose it depends where you go, and how much of a blouse you are. and i dont tie it to the bike incase it falls over. And mine's green.
Much MUCH less to carry. Srsly, poles and shit??

Another pic of haydes'
http://ridermagazine.wpengine.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/web-Redverz-Series-II-Expedition-Tent.jpg

Camping site or just on the side of the road.

It will be enough room for me and 2 blouses

[neels]

My bike just parks beside the dome tent, I suppose if I cared enough I could take a spare tent fly to drape over the thing at night, but I don't so it sits out in the sun/rain/snow.

Does look like a lot of extra gear to cart just to put a cover over a bike.

[Akzle]

Camping site or just on the side of the road.

It will be enough room for me and 2 blouses

yeah well, unless the rain is coming at you sideways, fly camping is fairly protected, a good groundmat, beeping slag and you're sorted.
if you pin two edges of the fly to thte ground and lift the other corner you have wind/rain protection on 3 sides, if you park your bike in the opening, the warmth off the engine will keep you toasty until you're asleep.
in better weather you can just use it square, that is, with a ridge and four corners pegged to the ground like a regular triangle bivvy tent.
your repair kit consists of m0ar rope and duct tape, which you should be carrying anyway.

but if you're not straying too far from your nearest camping outlet, feel free to carry 3 sets of breakable firbreglass poles (!!!????!!!) (dont forget to pack spares :laugh: ) for that one in OP.

[Tazz]

Why carry all that extra weight? Waste of space. Also, who wants to sleep next to something that could crush your skull if for whatever reason it decided to topple or be pushed in the night?

I haven't done as much camping off the bike as I would like (although I do prefer to stay in huts if we're being honest XD) but I never park my bike within any distance that it could hit me or my tent, because it just seems like a common sense thing to do, just like how camping under trees seems like a bad thing to do :laugh:

If you need the engine to keep you warm for the 30mins it will be hot for after you park up you need a better sleeping bag or insulation from the ground. Either that or there are insulated tents that retain heat out there that I have never seen...

That isn't going to stop anyone who really wants your bike from stealing it either if it's security you're after.


but if you're not straying too far from your nearest camping outlet, feel free to carry 3 sets of breakable firbreglass poles (!!!????!!!) (dont forget to pack spares :laugh: ) for that one in OP.

I use a North Face (Olympus I think) tent that is at least 20 years old with 3 poles. The poles are def a little 'weathered', but still going strong. I carry (because it was added to the kit by my step father who bought the tent, and is a wicked idea) 2 or 3 little steel sleeves to slide over and tape in place if any of the poles snap. It takes 5-10 mins to put up, doesn't need natural shelter form any sides (if you can't find any) and stands independent of the bike so you can come and go as your please once it's up. (Ali poles though)

I pitched it at an event a few weeks back, rode back up to Blenhole for a few hours for a gig, got back at 3am in driving wind and rain to find most of the tents around mine farked and a bunch of people wrapped up in their cars :laugh: (to be fair they were pitched by townies) and if not blown to shit they were complaining about being wet the next day. Mine just needed some guide ropes tightened as some drunk fawker had tripped over a couple, and it was dry as, including all my wet weather gear that I had accidentally left there :rolleyes:

On sale:

https://www.torpedo7.co.nz/products/T7ATBN5MT/title/torpedo7-mamaku-2-person-adventure-tent?utm_source=email&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=tuesday

[Big Dog]

Only ever done the motorbike camping a few times.
1 dome tent each bike.
If one arrives worse for wear that just became the gear tent.

When in have gone alone I have taken a couple of spare pegs and a roll of duct tape or rubber thong... makes a pretty good splint provided poles are broken not shattered.
Iff you find you don't have all the poles ( or any as happened to another rider one time ) if you use a little ingenuity and park under trees you can use as a sort of fly or fashion some poles out of the local fauna.

One camping trip in my teens it was discovered after a full days hike we did not have more than one whole tent for nearly a dozen people.
Surprising how resourceful you can be when you care less about the facilities and more about having fun.

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[Akzle]

Surprising how resourceful you can be when you care less about the facilities and more about having fun.

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orgy ?

[Big Dog]

orgy ?
Is that where your mind goes when thinking of 12 13-15 yo boys?
Mind you my last few times in a tent involved Sex, just no beasts, boys or minors.

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[Akzle]

Is that where your mind goes when thinking of 12 13-15 yo boys?
Mind you my last few times in a tent involved Sex, just no beasts, boys or minors.

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you specified neither age nor gender.

Going into the bush with a dozen boys... Whaddarya?

[MarkH]

This is a pretty good idea for camping knowing the bike is safe

CLICK HERE TO LEARN MORE (http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00A79BZOE/?tag=051-20)

That's not the current model, the Redverz Atacama is the current one.
http://redverz.com/motorcycle-tents/atacama-green/
The Expedition II is the previous model.
Either way it is a pretty nice tent, enough height in the vestibule for a 6 ft tall person to stand up.


Thanks Haydes, apart from no floor doesn't look too bad. Wondered how it packs down


The bedroom has a floor, the vestibule has a floor available as an optional extra.


feel free to carry 3 sets of breakable firbreglass poles (!!!????!!!) (dont forget to pack spares :laugh: ) for that one in OP.

The Redverz tents don't come with fibreglass poles, none of the expensive tents do. They use Aluminium poles, the cheaper tents are the ones with breakable fibreglass poles.

The Redverz tent is quite bulky & quite heavy (~7kg), it also requires are reasonable amount of space to setup.
I don't find that a big problem, especially on the ST1300 which has a fuck tonne of carrying capacity.
My only problem is that I have never managed a good restful sleep in a sleeping bag on an inflatable mat.
My solution:

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The bedroom has been unclipped and removed, otherwise it is the standard tent setup but with a hammock stand and hammock setup inside the tent.

I've since purchased some better hammock gear so I'll be switching to a hammock fly instead of the Redverz tent.

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As for the ability to park the bike inside the Redverz tent - sounds like a cool idea, but I've never bothered doing it.
I prefer to use the vestibule area to sit in and relax/cook/eat/etc.

[Akzle]

The Redverz tents don't come with fibreglass poles, none of the expensive tents do. They use Aluminium poles, the cheaper tents are the ones with breakable fibreglass poles.

i've never broken anything aluminium....


but yeah, okay. they're better than glass, and lighter. but still. not as light as a fly and cord.

[Tazz]

My only problem is that I have never managed a good restful sleep in a sleeping bag on an inflatable mat.


You ever try the expeds matts? I've gone one of the hunting and fishing ones that are similar, tis whoresome.

[Big Dog]

you specified neither age nor gender.

Going into the bush with a dozen boys... Whaddarya?

I did say it was in my teens.
Some call it prepping for the akzleocolypse... others call it Boys Brigade.

I learned 2 important survival tips that trip...
Don't trust your leaders blindly: Check your route and equipment yourself.
In a pinch a 6inch blade with a solid hilt will serve you better in the bush than a "survival knife" (no we were not allowed to bring a hatchet): You can't hammer in a stake with the compass end, you can however make a guy rope from bark, make tent poles from cane or similarly flexible sticks if you can cut it and make tent pegs. Already knew that from a text book perspective. Nice to know I was not a loony learning that in advance.

[MarkH]

You ever try the expeds matts? I've gone one of the hunting and fishing ones that are similar, tis whoresome.

Yeah, that's what I've used in tents. Went with the longer thicker top of the line model (Downmat 9 long wide), it seemed OK but I still tossed & turned all night and woke early feeling stuffed. In a hammock I can sleep for more than 10 hours if catching up on sleep, can't even achieve that in a regular bed.

At the last Cold Kiwi I slept in my hammock while there was frost on the outside of the tent, I had to open my sleeping bag a bit because I was getting too hot.
Hammocks are more comfortable, cooler in summer & warmer in winter - presuming you have the right gear of course.

[Tazz]

Yeah, that's what I've used in tents. Went with the longer thicker top of the line model (Downmat 9 long wide), it seemed OK but I still tossed & turned all night and woke early feeling stuffed. In a hammock I can sleep for more than 10 hours if catching up on sleep, can't even achieve that in a regular bed.

At the last Cold Kiwi I slept in my hammock while there was frost on the outside of the tent, I had to open my sleeping bag a bit because I was getting too hot.
Hammocks are more comfortable, cooler in summer & warmer in winter - presuming you have the right gear of course.

There was another thread here where this was discussed, but I actually find I still need a heap of insulation under me in a hammock or stretcher. I was gutted to discover that (love sleeping on stuff that's moving (boats, cars, peasants etc).
You've got an interesting setup, and some of those hammock tents are so light and reasonably priced (despite the obvious drawbacks of a hammock).

I'm not a big guy weight wise, but I can sleep on my side on the matt I've got now and not touch the ground which I'm pretty stoked with. Good you found something that suits you. Some people give up and go off camping all together before finding a setup that they like (I'm yet to find a tent that will keep my dry while I pack it up :laugh:)

[JATZ]

This is a pretty good idea for camping knowing the bike is safe

CLICK HERE TO LEARN MORE (http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00A79BZOE/?tag=051-20)

Interesting setup, but I'd spend the night nervous the bike was going to topple over and either A: crush my skull or B: crush my feet.
I have a bike cover that rolls up pretty small if I do feel the need to cover the bike, which is usually parked more than a bike length from the tent :2thumbsup
For a tent I use a kathmandu thingy which seems alright and packs up small, coupled with a cheepy tarp from the warehouse and some bits of string (or bike tiedowns if I'm going interisland) The tarp wraps round the tent during transport to provide protection :D
Sleeping... I have a small blowup thing to lie on and a "self inflating" (yeah right :oi-grr:) mat to go under it. The whole lot fits into a 20 l dry bag with a 3 legged stool and a couple of tubes, maybe some jacket liners too if I feel the need

[eldog]

There was another thread here where this was discussed, (I'm yet to find a tent that will keep my dry while I pack it up :laugh:)

I remember this other thread, it was interesting how people preferred hammocks or tents.

I like the one Haydes suggested, but still not sure I would ever use it properly.
I guess I am going to have to try a bit of camping with what I have got (minimal) and see what happens.

Nice to see people putting ideas on KB for others to have a look at/think about.

[MarkH]

but I actually find I still need a heap of insulation under me in a hammock or stretcher.

Well yeah, hammocks don't work in anything but really hot nights without some insulation under them.
I have a poncho liner made into an under quilt - good (or at least reasonable) for summer, I have a Hammock Gear Incubator 20 for winter, designed to be good down to 20°F which is around -7°C which is as cold as I've ever been camping in.
The poncho liner UQ cost me a total of less than eighty dollars total, but the HG UQ was over US$200 before shipping costs. I'm willing to spend money to be comfortable though, fuck being uncomfortable!

For a top quilt I use my down sleeping bag that I bought around 7 or 8 years ago, it is still in great condition and has been good value, I'm not in any hurry to spend money on a good top quilt that I don't have to have. I'm hoping that my expensive HG UQ will last for many years as well, to me it will be good value if I can use it for a long time and not have to spend that money again any time soon.

[MarkH]

I like the one Haydes suggested, but still not sure I would ever use it properly.


It is a good tent, not so much for parking a bike in (I suspect most people would decide not to, like me) but having an area that you can stand in sheltered from rain, get dressed in, sit in, cook in, eat in, etc. that is what makes that tent good to have.

My suggestion for someone with a small crappy tent is this:
Consider the size & weight of tent you are willing to take on the bike.
If the Redverz is a bit much then look at a smaller lighter tent, but with a reasonable sized vestibule that you can at least sit in & cook in (if you cook while camping).
For summer time I have found that the cheap tents with only 1 door are shit, you want two doors so that you can open both and have a breeze blowing through - this is a VERY important feature in hot weather!

Of course a hammock is the best in hot weather, much more versatility in the tarp setup to provide shade and allow air through. But a tent with 2 doors pitched with one door facing the wind and both open will be pretty good.

[eldog]

It is a good tent, not so much for parking a bike in (I suspect most people would decide not to, like me) but having an area that you can stand in sheltered from rain, get dressed in, sit in, cook in, eat in, etc. that is what makes that tent good to have.

at least sit in & cook in (if you cook while camping).
For summer you want two doors so that you can open both and have a breeze blowing through - this is a VERY important feature in hot weather!.

Not sure if I would cook when camping.
Never camped properly before - just the odd tent, sleep out, marae visit when everything was laidout and you got told what to do - no problem.

I see the benefit of this tent or Fly like Azkle suggested.

If I was purchasing it would be this tent. I am unlikely to be in snow so not worried about that.

Looking at something so I can rest up without having to get motel accommodation $$$, although every now and then its nice.

Got other stuff to do first so will keep this in mind.

[nzspokes]

Bivi Bag. Sorted.

[eldog]

Bivi Bag. Sorted.
Does it have room for 3?

googled it. Good review - something to think about.

http://thenextchallenge.org/comparison-best-bivi-bags/

[scumdog]

yeah well, unless the rain is coming at you sideways, fly camping is fairly protected, a good groundmat, beeping slag and you're sorted.
if you pin two edges of the fly to thte ground and lift the other corner you have wind/rain protection on 3 sides, if you park your bike in the opening, the warmth off the engine will keep you toasty until you're asleep.
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Doesn't appear you've experienced some good ol' Southern weather or you wouldn't be offering that advice.;)

[eldog]

Doesn't appear you've experienced some good ol' Southern weather.;)

Does it always rain on the west coast?

do I have to worry about heavy rain if I tour down that way in Autumn/Spring/summer

hadn't really thought about snow.

Us Aklders don't know about bad weather we just complain just the same.

[Tazz]

Does it always rain on the west coast?

do I have to worry about heavy rain if I tour down that way in Autumn/Spring/summer

hadn't really thought about snow.

Us Aklders don't know about bad weather we just complain just the same.

No, but the annual rainfall is probably over double that of Auckland. When it rains it's generally a proper, drown while you're walkin to the pub, rain. Not so much of a drizzle then sun again affair.

Snow only if you're up a hill.

[Tazz]

Bivi Bag. Sorted.

Have you ever used one? Condensation in them is pretty bad as well as all the other major disadvantages. They have their place but there is a reason why they're not all that popular.

[nzspokes]

Have you ever used one? Condensation in them is pretty bad as well as all the other major disadvantages. They have their place but there is a reason why they're not all that popular.
Yup. Lots. Only a problem if you buy a cheap one.

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[Tazz]

Yup. Lots. Only a problem if you buy a cheap one.

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Whats a cheap one money wise? I spent $300 odd on one (black diamond or something? might have been on sale too), it even had a wee vent thing and was touted as having some flash wicking fabric but it was still poos. Maybe I'm just a sweaty, breathy mofo :laugh:
Either way, I was gutted as I thought that was the perfect solution to what I wanted in shelter at the time.

[awa355]

The missing thread, started by some idiot that still hasn't made up his mind as to which option would be best.

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/174579-Hammock-or-tent

I do like the idea of being off the damp ground but like being able to sit up without using my head to push up a sagging roof as I did with the tarp idea. This was July and waking up at 4am cold and no head room was no fun.

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[Akzle]

I do like the idea of being off the damp ground but like being able to sit up without using my head to push up a sagging roof as I did with the tarp idea. This was July and waking up at 4am cold and no head room was no fun.


your doing it wrong

and zomfg. you sleep that close to you're bike??

[nzspokes]

Whats a cheap one money wise? I spent $300 odd on one (black diamond or something? might have been on sale too), it even had a wee vent thing and was touted as having some flash wicking fabric but it was still poos. Maybe I'm just a sweaty mofo :laugh:
Either way, I was gutted as I thought that was the perfect solution to what I wanted in shelter at the time.

Was a macpac gortex thing that cost way to much for what it was.

[Tazz]

Was a macpac gortex thing that cost way to much for what it was.

Sounds about right. Got a secondhand one now I used to keep in the storage box on the CBR and now in my tank bag as a 'just in caser' but it's yet to be used. Have to say being able to fit that and my sleeping matt in the tank bag is pretty sweet. Just need a small but warm sleeping bag now.

Got a link to the one you use?

[eldog]

The missing thread, started by some idiot that still hasn't made up his mind as to which option would be best.

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/174579-Hammock-or-tent

I do like the idea of being off the damp ground but like being able to sit up without using my head to push up a sagging roof as I did with the tarp idea. This was July and waking up at 4am cold and no head room was no fun.



Are you calling me an idiot?.....

well ok maybe not that idiot - I have tried a hammock once a long time ago just wasn't comfortable, I doubt it was setup right
Still cant decide, but plenty of time before I need to.

I would have parked the bike so it was leaning toward the fence, knowing my luck the bike would have tipped over :crazy:

and Yes I am one of those heavy breathers who can fog up most things including pinlock visors

I remember the rain at Hokitika and the beaut sunshine after at Franz Josef when you could walk to the face

Still got some unfinished business down that way, hence the interest.

[nzspokes]

Sounds about right. Got a secondhand one now I used to keep in the storage box on the CBR and now in my tank bag as a 'just in caser' but it's yet to be used. Have to say being able to fit that and my sleeping matt in the tank bag is pretty sweet. Just need a small but warm sleeping bag now.

Got a link to the one you use?

Sold it a while back, had it 12ish years? I used to do a lot of sea kayaking, tramping, MTB bush camping etc. That and a good bag with a thermorest and you are sorted.

[MarkH]

I have tried a hammock once a long time ago just wasn't comfortable, I doubt it was setup right

Not setup right is quite likely, hammocks aren't as simple as they seem.
The basics: http://theultimatehang.com/2012/07/hammock-camping-101/
With the right setup hammocks are VERY comfortable, at least I find it comfortable to sleep in one.

[eldog]

Not setup right is quite likely, hammocks aren't as simple as they seem.
The basics: http://theultimatehang.com/2012/07/hammock-camping-101/
With the right setup hammocks are VERY comfortable, at least I find it comfortable to sleep in one.

Nice web page you pointed at :2thumbsup

Yeah it wasn't set right too close and sagged a lot. Like those old woven Spring beds which cause roll together probs

[russd7]

As for the ability to park the bike inside the Redverz tent - sounds like a cool idea, but I've never bothered doing it.
I prefer to use the vestibule area to sit in and relax/cook/eat/etc.

curious as to where you purchased yours

[MarkH]

curious as to where you purchased yours

Saw it on trademe, looked up the tent and realised it was a seriously cool tent, bought it for ~$300 less than buying new from the US.