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vteckz
21st January 2016, 12:36
Hi there,

I have just finished my turbo build and I am looking for anyone that may have a turbo map for me to build off. I'm running stock motor and stock injectors with rising rate FMU.
Limitied to 5psi boost MAX. I'm currently using a base map from power commanders site but its not real nice. I also have ignition module to retard timing.

Anyone who can help ??

Cheers

jonbuoy
21st January 2016, 20:19
Hi there,

I have just finished my turbo build and I am looking for anyone that may have a turbo map for me to build off. I'm running stock motor and stock injectors with rising rate FMU.
Limitied to 5psi boost MAX. I'm currently using a base map from power commanders site but its not real nice. I also have ignition module to retard timing.

Anyone who can help ??

Cheers

If you don't have a separate wideband 02 sensor and display fitted I would really advise you get one. Takes a lot of guesswork out of tuning. Get a permanently fitted sensor not a tail pipe sniffer.

vteckz
22nd January 2016, 21:20
If you don't have a separate wideband 02 sensor and display fitted I would really advise you get one. Takes a lot of guesswork out of tuning. Get a permanently fitted sensor not a tail pipe sniffer.

Thanks - yes i have a wideband in there, and connected to the autotune unit. I have a POD300 display also. Today i used the autotune for the first time and I am very happy at the trim adjustments it made. Tonight i have taken -3 degress of timing out on full boost to keep safe and will continue to tune.

thanks

jonbuoy
23rd January 2016, 02:50
It's not easy to map a bike on the road eh? You can't have a pillion watching a laptop screen for you. You sound like you got it sussed - people seem reluctant to hand out base maps - the ones manufacturers give you seem to be very cautious on ignition timing - and that's where all the gains are made. Long as your roughly in the ball park mixture wise.

vteckz
23rd January 2016, 21:30
It's not easy to map a bike on the road eh? You can't have a pillion watching a laptop screen for you. You sound like you got it sussed - people seem reluctant to hand out base maps - the ones manufacturers give you seem to be very cautious on ignition timing - and that's where all the gains are made. Long as your roughly in the ball park mixture wise.

haha yes not easy indeed. I have the display up front with the afr's showing 319056, but trying to twist the throttle and watch the boost and afrs at the same time is a far from easy task. I'm targeting 12:1 on full boost and that seems to be working well. I've built and road tuned a few cars but this is a totally different kettle of fish!

AllanB
23rd January 2016, 22:04
Fuck the map - wheres the photos ya gammy sod?

vteckz
24th January 2016, 09:27
Fuck the map - wheres the photos ya gammy sod?


Here's a few for you to drool over...

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AllanB
24th January 2016, 15:28
Looks very well done. It will be a beast - god engine for it as it has a tone of progressive power - what rpm will the turbo kick in in anger?

vteckz
24th January 2016, 18:59
Looks very well done. It will be a beast - god engine for it as it has a tone of progressive power - what rpm will the turbo kick in in anger?

starts making boost around 3.5K

vteckz
24th January 2016, 19:02
Looks very well done. It will be a beast - god engine for it as it has a tone of progressive power - what rpm will the turbo kick in in anger?

starts making boost around 3.5K

jonbuoy
24th January 2016, 20:21
Nice work!

vteckz
28th January 2016, 08:49
Hi guys,

I'm wanting to continue building some bikes on the side.
My next interest is turbocharging a ZX10R . PM me if your the owner of one of these machines and If your interested in something different.

Regards

speedpro
3rd February 2016, 22:15
I've built a rolling road with a big disc brake. It has worked OK for my little turbo build and tune. I've run autotune and it worked a treat. We could use it for yours but only at the very lowest power and speed levels. Would be ideal to sort out the bottom end tune to make it nice in traffic and for regular use. Your autotune should sort out fuelling pretty quick. I wouldn't worry about getting a map from someone else. As long as you work up the power/load/rev levels it should be fine. Autotune doesn't just tune the precise load cell the engine is running in. It should modify a reasonable range and take into account the values already in cells about the ones being edited.
What brand ECU are you using and is it a kit or have you assembled it yourself?

vteckz
4th February 2016, 18:43
I've built a rolling road with a big disc brake. It has worked OK for my little turbo build and tune. I've run autotune and it worked a treat. We could use it for yours but only at the very lowest power and speed levels. Would be ideal to sort out the bottom end tune to make it nice in traffic and for regular use. Your autotune should sort out fuelling pretty quick. I wouldn't worry about getting a map from someone else. As long as you work up the power/load/rev levels it should be fine. Autotune doesn't just tune the precise load cell the engine is running in. It should modify a reasonable range and take into account the values already in cells about the ones being edited.
What brand ECU are you using and is it a kit or have you assembled it yourself?

Hi - OK thanks, yes I have been working on the tune on the road with autotune. I actually found it more difficult to get the low points right and the high end right also. Finding dyno time has proven difficult. Its running a PCV with ignition module , and autotune. It was not a kit, i found some supplies out of the states and the rest were either fabricated or sourced locally.

BASS-TREBLE
4th February 2016, 20:08
Nice build. I'm unfamiliar with the PCV but does it have a MAP input? That would help monitor things when boost builds to ensure your FPR is responding like it should.

Can't really help but I did set up a microsquirt map from scratch on a NA bandit and the only way I managed it was to have a laptop in a backpack with a cable going under the seat. Worked very well being able to do it in real driving conditions.

vteckz
6th February 2016, 17:36
Nice build. I'm unfamiliar with the PCV but does it have a MAP input? That would help monitor things when boost builds to ensure your FPR is responding like it should.

Can't really help but I did set up a microsquirt map from scratch on a NA bandit and the only way I managed it was to have a laptop in a backpack with a cable going under the seat. Worked very well being able to do it in real driving conditions.

Hi - Yes i have wired in a map input on one of the expansion ports. I'm running a 2.5 bar map sensor from NZEFI seems to do the trick .ANother decent ride today with a few good wide open pulls, man this thing is scary fast. I think i'm getting there with the tune!

malcy25
12th February 2016, 11:44
Give Brett Roberts a ring and book some dyno time with him. He regularly does early evening runs for those of us that work for a living 0274031119. Dyno jet 150 and done a lot of bikes - great experience. Even better sense of humour!