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atalagk
9th February 2016, 21:07
The pic tells it all...they shouldn't be selling this stuff.http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160209/d30dd9cfe644592464951efc01c12777.jpg

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haydes55
9th February 2016, 21:09
Why?


What have I missed here?

Madness
9th February 2016, 21:12
Let me know when you find a product that doesn't do the same thing to some extent. That or paint your wheels black.

Ender EnZed
9th February 2016, 21:20
The pic tells it all

I don't think it does.

AllanB
9th February 2016, 21:29
What?

Fling off on the wheel?


Could be incorrect application.

Too much

Not enough setting time after application.

sidecar bob
10th February 2016, 06:19
Or it could just be completely normal regardless of the brand.
Get back to me when you find one that doesn't do that.

caspernz
10th February 2016, 07:51
Maybe once the OP has ridden for more than a month....it'll be discovered that all chain lubes have some fling off :facepalm::innocent:

Scubbo
10th February 2016, 09:35
damn chains and their lube making the bike slightly dirty, just go :ride: instead of worrying

neels
10th February 2016, 10:28
Excess chain lube is how I know it's time to clean my bike, when I can't tell what colour the back wheel is any more.

RGVforme
10th February 2016, 10:59
Yep all the chain lubes I have used still "Fling" some off ......more so if I get a bit keen on the application.

I don't know if a scottoiler would be better as ive never used them but may be an option for you there.

Tazz
10th February 2016, 11:38
:eek:! You're using the wrong stuff!


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Gremlin
10th February 2016, 11:39
You have white rims :nya:

Ulsterkiwi
10th February 2016, 14:24
I don't know if a scottoiler would be better as ive never used them but may be an option for you there.

a scottoiler means lubrication is consistent not necessarily that there is less mess. I have one on my bike. I use a rag on the garage floor when the bike it put to bed at night, there is always a bit of oil which drips off the chain/sprocket. My wife's bike has no such issues as she uses a wax on the chain.
With an oiler the chain is always easier to clean.
its a pros/cons thing.

awa355
10th February 2016, 14:43
:eek:! You're using the wrong stuff!


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How long does a bottle last you? :laugh:

Tazz
10th February 2016, 15:34
How long does a bottle last you? :laugh:

Depends on how much fun I've been having of course!

husaberg
10th February 2016, 15:51
The pic tells it all...they shouldn't be selling this stuff.http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160209/d30dd9cfe644592464951efc01c12777.jpg

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Or it could just be completely normal regardless of the brand.
Get back to me when you find one that doesn't do that.


You have white rims :nya:

but you can use white lube as well
This stuff drys hard doesn't fling off if applied and left to dry.
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I now use some oddball stuff that actually very much like a solvent on its inital aplication, so it cleans then drys out to form a tough waxy surface and works bloody great, its used to be called ELF but now renamed Total.
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http://www.totaloilsolutions.co.nz/our-products/construction/hydraulic/

atalagk
10th February 2016, 16:08
What?

Fling off on the wheel?


Could be incorrect application.

Too much

Not enough setting time after application.
I have been careful in applying it. It never did like this with previous lubes. Damn I don't remember what it was! Thanks for any suggestions

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RDJ
10th February 2016, 16:27
Or it could just be completely normal regardless of the brand.
Get back to me when you find one that doesn't do that.

"They all do that". In my experience.

sidecar bob
10th February 2016, 16:52
"They all do that". In my experience.

I found an easy fix, buy a scooter, no chain. ;)

nzspokes
10th February 2016, 16:57
a scottoiler means lubrication is consistent not necessarily that there is less mess. I have one on my bike. I use a rag on the garage floor when the bike it put to bed at night, there is always a bit of oil which drips off the chain/sprocket. My wife's bike has no such issues as she uses a wax on the chain.
With an oiler the chain is always easier to clean.
its a pros/cons thing.

You have it set to drip to much. Have them on 2 bikes and neither dip oil.

Ulsterkiwi
10th February 2016, 16:59
Ok, cheers


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Gremlin
10th February 2016, 17:03
Y'all crazy.

Shaft drive.

RDJ
10th February 2016, 17:04
Y'all crazy.

Shaft drive.

Good point. Or belt drive. But that does not invalidate your basic point - We. Are. All. Crazy. I mean - two wheels? how ever do we stay upright? ;)

rambaldi
10th February 2016, 17:22
Good point. Or belt drive. But that does not invalidate your basic point - We. Are. All. Crazy. I mean - two wheels? how ever do we stay upright? ;)

You must not be going fast enough

RDJ
10th February 2016, 17:44
You must not be going fast enough

Err- the roads I ride on are not a Moebius strip. Gotta stop every now and then ;)

nodrog
10th February 2016, 17:59
ok, thanks for the tip.

rambaldi
10th February 2016, 19:08
Err- the roads I ride on are not a Moebius strip. Gotta stop every now and then ;)

There is no need for that fancy geometry stuff. Just go about my roundabout, it seems to go on forever.

AllanB
10th February 2016, 19:14
How come you buggers always spray shit loads on the outside of the links? The lube is for the O rings.

nzspokes
10th February 2016, 19:41
How come you buggers always spray shit loads on the outside of the links? The lube is for the O rings.

Yerp. You are correct.

RDJ
10th February 2016, 19:44
There is no need for that fancy geometry stuff. Just go about my roundabout, it seems to go on forever.

True dat. But then - you never get to go anywhere new?

husaberg
10th February 2016, 19:46
How come you buggers always spray shit loads on the outside of the links? The lube is for the O rings.

Because it makes it look bad ass
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nzspokes
10th February 2016, 19:56
Because it makes it look bad ass


Top tips right there.

Motu
10th February 2016, 20:11
I use a long lasting chain lube that last the life of the chain.....after 6 months or so it turns an orange/brown colour, and the chain is a bit rattley at this stage. But it's great - apply just once and then forget about it. Been using it for years.

husaberg
10th February 2016, 20:11
Top tips right there.

He cetainly got to the root of chain and sprocket fixing, top tips with no hooks

Ocean1
10th February 2016, 20:34
but you can use white lube as well
This stuff drys hard doesn't fling off if applied and left to dry.
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It doesn't fling off if you use it right before a ride either.

If you gota use chains the Belray stuff is the best road option I've ever come across.

eldog
10th February 2016, 20:39
Because it makes it look bad ass

Sharpening sprockets never looked so easy

Husa are you the NZ agent for Ichy?

Send no money now I guess.

eldog
10th February 2016, 20:41
I use a long lasting chain lube that last the life of the chain.....after 6 months or so it turns an orange/brown colour, and the chain is a bit rattley at this stage. But it's great - apply just once and then forget about it. Been using it for years.

If you leave the bike out for a week or 2 and don't ride it, the chain won't be so rattley:2thumbsup

eldog
10th February 2016, 20:43
How come you buggers always spray shit loads on the outside of the links? The lube is for the O rings.
Are you pulling my chain?

eldog
10th February 2016, 20:45
Depends on how much fun I've been having of course!
Gimme my bottle back.:whistle:

husaberg
10th February 2016, 21:11
Sharpening sprockets never looked so easy

Husa are you the NZ agent for Ichy?

Send no money now I guess.

Well the Auckland franchise is available. But only if you have assembly tape and plenty of sporks.


It doesn't fling off if you use it right before a ride either.

If you gota use chains the Belray stuff is the best road option I've ever come across.

I am lazy, but to me they are best done after a ride while they are hot and much less likely to be ridden while they are wet and oily.;)
It's actually the best time to adjust the chain as well (while they are hot.)
I did like the Bellray, but the Total stuff (although it doesn't look as impressive its actually vey thin but dries thick) works very well, its one of the few things that extend the life of a KTM50SX chain beyond a race meeting or two when in the sand. (That's less than an hour for the non MX dads out there)
I think the total stuff was actually designed for fork lifts and industrial uses
Hell when I was a poor kid I used to use chainsaw chain and bar lube.

eldog
10th February 2016, 21:27
Well the Auckland franchise is available.
Send money now. Run out of sporks to much demand from Sprotbikes users. Limited time only.

Tazz
11th February 2016, 08:48
Well the Auckland franchise is available. But only if you have assembly tape and plenty of sporks.



I am lazy, but to me they are best done after a ride while they are hot and much less likely to be ridden while they are wet and oily.;)
It's actually the best time to adjust the chain as well (while they are hot.)
I did like the Bellray, but the Total stuff (although it doesn't look as impressive its actually vey thin but dries thick) works very well, its one of the few things that extend the life of a KTM50SX chain beyond a race meeting or two when in the sand. (That's less than an hour for the non MX dads out there)
I think the total stuff was actually designed for fork lifts and industrial uses
Hell when I was a poor kid I used to use chainsaw chain and bar lube.

Motivationally though, it's probably the worst time!
I had to get off and open a garage door at my last place though which meant I could leave some spray on stuff by the door and do it as I walked the bike into the garage. Now I have a swipe card and I am lazy as fark damnit!

husaberg
11th February 2016, 15:42
Motivationally though, it's probably the worst time!
I had to get off and open a garage door at my last place though which meant I could leave some spray on stuff by the door and do it as I walked the bike into the garage. Now I have a swipe card and I am lazy as fark damnit!

Hence my "I am lazy opening", but for MX that's, when I used to do it, then you can chillax until the next race. Rather than leave it until the last minute. Only to find it needs adjusting and or something is loose or broken. The KTM50's were high maintenance little buggars, I was bloody glad when my child moved out of them.

Ocean1
11th February 2016, 18:45
I am lazy, but to me they are best done after a ride while they are hot and much less likely to be ridden while they are wet and oily.;)
It's actually the best time to adjust the chain as well (while they are hot.)
I did like the Bellray, but the Total stuff (although it doesn't look as impressive its actually vey thin but dries thick) works very well, its one of the few things that extend the life of a KTM50SX chain beyond a race meeting or two when in the sand. (That's less than an hour for the non MX dads out there)
I think the total stuff was actually designed for fork lifts and industrial uses
Hell when I was a poor kid I used to use chainsaw chain and bar lube.

I usually do it after a ride too. But last week I rolled the bike out and only then realised it was overdue, so I gave it a quick spray thinking I'd clean it properly and re-lube it the next day. It stayed on just fine, no flung dung whatsoever.

As for the sand, in my experience anything you put on the chain at all only wore it faster. I used to buy 16 ft rolls of chain from an engineering supplier for about a quarter the price the bike shops sold it for and just change it as required.

husaberg
11th February 2016, 18:55
I usually do it after a ride too. But last week I rolled the bike out and only then realised it was overdue, so I gave it a quick spray thinking I'd clean it properly and re-lube it the next day. It stayed on just fine, no flung dung whatsoever.

As for the sand, in my experience anything you put on the chain at all only wore it faster. I used to buy 16 ft rolls of chain from an engineering supplier for about a quarter the price the bike shops sold it for and just change it as required.

You are most likely right re the sand.
Years ago where I worked we used to by all the chain we sold in big rolls from paykel and repackage it:innocent:

flashg
11th February 2016, 19:54
My understanding is o-ring chains are sealed by the o-ring, the lube won't get in and the original lube won't get out, protecting the pins. The rollers need the lube so when the chain comes in contact with the sprocket it rolls on eliminating friction and wear. A dry roller won't roll, and will cause excessive wear to itself and the sprockets.
Sand and dust stuff any chain as mentioned. A rusty chain wears itself out. That's what I've discovered over the year's.

jellywrestler
12th February 2016, 06:15
The pic tells it all...they shouldn't be selling this stuff.http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160209/d30dd9cfe644592464951efc01c12777.jpg

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try simple green, it's the only stuff i've found that gets rid of chain lube easily

Ocean1
12th February 2016, 10:22
try simple green, it's the only stuff i've found that gets rid of chain lube easily

I've also known it to remove enamel paint.

old rig
12th February 2016, 11:37
try simple green, it's the only stuff i've found that gets rid of chain lube easily
Crc work's really well it's all ways taken chain lube off easy

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neels
12th February 2016, 12:19
Crc work's really well it's all ways taken chain lube off easy
I'm pretty sure the bit that does the cleaning in CRC is kerosene, easier just to use straight kero as it washes off easier afterwards.

These things were mentioned in another thread a while back, so I thought I'd give it a go, they actually work really well as chain lube and attaching gunk removers.

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Swivel
18th March 2016, 03:51
I've never used wax lube before. I wonder if its better and safe.

Flip
19th March 2016, 20:52
Water rusts the chain surfaces and generally fucks the rollers, Orings then the pins.

Dont degrease or wash a chain ever, a little oil often is all thats needed. My last chain drive bike aT1200 did 70k on its chain after I fitted a scott oiler.

HD90 and a small brush is all you need.

SmithPlatts
20th March 2016, 00:26
I use this stuff:

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160319/904908b8b7df8b673bceaa8edcba28e2.jpg

Works a charm, never really noticed any fling off, and lasts ages.

In Aus I get it from SuperCheap Auto for $16 a can: http://www.supercheapauto.com.au/online-store/products/Lanotec-Heavy-Duty-Liquid-Lanolin-400g.aspx?pid=123739

I'm sure you guys'll have a dealer over the pond that carries it.

RGVforme
20th March 2016, 01:41
I use this stuff:

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160319/904908b8b7df8b673bceaa8edcba28e2.jpg

Works a charm, never really noticed any fling off, and lasts ages.

In Aus I get it from SuperCheap Auto for $16 a can: http://www.supercheapauto.com.au/online-store/products/Lanotec-Heavy-Duty-Liquid-Lanolin-400g.aspx?pid=123739

I'm sure you guys'll have a dealer over the pond that carries it.

Welcome sir......Your one brave man....

An Aussie based poster venturing onto KB and 2 posts in starts talking sheep lubricant.....:crazy::lol:

Amazing what they use Lanolin for now aye.I cant say I have seen it but it makes sense.

Jin
20th March 2016, 08:26
I use this stuff:

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160319/904908b8b7df8b673bceaa8edcba28e2.jpg

Works a charm, never really noticed any fling off, and lasts ages.

In Aus I get it from SuperCheap Auto for $16 a can: http://www.supercheapauto.com.au/online-store/products/Lanotec-Heavy-Duty-Liquid-Lanolin-400g.aspx?pid=123739

I'm sure you guys'll have a dealer over the pond that carries it.
Nice im going to buy some of this today and lube that bitch up nice and good.

AllanB
20th March 2016, 08:48
Nice im going to buy some of this today and lube that bitch up nice and good.

One hopes you are referencing your chain .........

AllanB
20th March 2016, 08:51
Purchased a can of Belray after a recommendation on KB. It is very good - sweet FA fling at all.

My Ducati has a form over function really short chain guard (if one could call it that....) and as a result has been flinging various brands of chain oil over the place. Belray stopped that - stays were it is put.

Got a couple of almost full chain oil cans now I won't use .....

nzspokes
20th March 2016, 09:03
Got a couple of almost full chain oil cans now I won't use .....

Its great for door hinges at home.

Woodman
20th March 2016, 09:04
When I had a bike with a chain, I used chainbar lube and put heaps on then went for a ride and it would flick all the old oil and crap off and the chain would be clean when I got home*. Then just sprayed it with TAC2.

*Didn't care if it flung all over the bike.

Ocean1
20th March 2016, 09:15
Amazing what they use Lanolin for now aye.I cant say I have seen it but it makes sense.

Prolan here. Most engineering suppliers will have it in aerosol cans.

I first came across it in the form of a light grease, used between dissimilar metals in marine applications, (stainless mast fittings on alloy masts) to minimise galvanic corrosion. Nobody seems to know quite how that works, but it does.

I used Prolan on the dirt bikes for years with good results, but the BelRay is better for the road bikes. In fact I use it on the 525 now too, just lasts longer between cleans.

Owl
20th March 2016, 09:23
Prolan here. Most engineering suppliers will have it in aerosol cans.

I used that too and thought it was great as my chain was always clean and rust free. However after early destruction of two x-ring chains, I gave up on it and went back to chain lube.:(

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/114602-The-most-amazing-chain-lube-ever?highlight=prolan

Maha
20th March 2016, 09:33
Welcome sir......Your one brave man....

An Aussie based poster venturing onto KB and 2 posts in starts talking sheep lubricant.....:crazy::lol:

Amazing what they use Lanolin for now aye.I cant say I have seen it but it makes sense.

Axle just got a chubby.

Ocean1
20th March 2016, 09:57
I used that too and thought it was great as my chain was always clean and rust free. However after early destruction of two x-ring chains, I gave up on it and went back to chain lube.:(

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/114602-The-most-amazing-chain-lube-ever?highlight=prolan

Interesting. Wonder if the Prolan damaged the seals.

Certainly wasn't evident on the dirt bikes, but chain life on dirt bikes is far more about keeping it clean than lubricating it, and Prolan didn't seem to attract wind blown dust 'n dirt as much.

That's less of a problem with road bikes, but I still think a protective film is more important than the lubrication qualities of the lube. If you think about it the roller doesn't actually turn wrt the sprocket tooth, the pin and bush inside the seal envelope is the only thing that actually needs a high performance lubricant.

Early days yet for the BelRay experiment, but I like it's longevity, I like that it stays on the chain and doesn't cover the bike in shit, I like that it's not sticky so it's less likely to collect dirt and I like the fact that you can still see it around the joints between links months after application.

WristTwister
20th March 2016, 10:23
Is anyone using Spectro Z-Clean chain lube? It sprays on white and it claims there is no fling off when used as directed.

SmithPlatts
20th March 2016, 10:48
Welcome sir......Your one brave man....

An Aussie based poster venturing onto KB and 2 posts in starts talking sheep lubricant.....:crazy::lol:

Amazing what they use Lanolin for now aye.I cant say I have seen it but it makes sense.

As an ex-farm boy whose family run multiple sheep farms, there ain't no throwing stones haha

SmithPlatts
20th March 2016, 10:51
I used that too and thought it was great as my chain was always clean and rust free. However after early destruction of two x-ring chains, I gave up on it and went back to chain lube.:(

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/114602-The-most-amazing-chain-lube-ever?highlight=prolan

The Lanotec stuff states designed use for o-ring and x-ring chains, hence the initial attempt at use.

I am about to replace my chain and sprockets so will keep an eye on the longevity with the new chain getting only the Lanotec ...

Flip
20th March 2016, 10:57
I don't use animal based lubricants?

Why, well let me think........ Firstly they are biodegradeable. Secondly animal and vege based lubricants are triglicerides, when they oxidise they become rancid, just like your local chippy when he doesent change his cooking oil. This is the small fatty acid molecules breaking off the ends of the hydrocarbon chains. I can only think that the fatty acid molecules will strip electrons from your metal chain and corrode it. I would not lube my chain with an animal or vege based lube, as the byproducts of the lube oxidising are hard on your chain life.

Who should you buy lubricants from? A oil company or a wool scouring company who is trying to offload a waste product.

RGVforme
20th March 2016, 12:00
I don't use animal based lubricants?

Why, well let me think........ Firstly they are biodegradeable. Secondly animal and vege based lubricants are triglicerides, when they oxidise they become rancid, just like your local chippy when he doesent change his cooking oil. This is the small fatty acid molecules breaking off the ends of the hydrocarbon chains. I can only think that the fatty acid molecules will strip electrons from your metal chain and corrode it. I would not lube my chain with an animal or vege based lube, as the byproducts of the lube oxidising are hard on your chain life.

Who should you buy lubricants from? A oil company or a wool scouring company who is trying to offload a waste product.

Perhaps the key to this may lay in the words "Based Lubricants" which may involve some type of modern stabilization of the product unlike the bad old days..... Like Lanox MX4 Which I have seen for sale here.

Who knows your rubber band drive on your HD may contain Lanolin as its sometimes used in rubber components to help keep shape and remain pliable.

SmithPlatts
20th March 2016, 12:19
Perhaps the key to this may lay in the words "Based Lubricants" which may involve some type of modern stabilization of the product unlike the bad old days..... Like Lanox MX4 Which I have seen for sale here.

Who knows your rubber band drive on your HD may contain Lanolin as its sometimes used in rubber components to help keep shape and remain pliable.

Bingo! Putting pure raw lanolin on the chain will likely have a negative effect for the reasons stated about the rancidity and degradability.

The reason that Lanotec, and other based-lubricants, are utilised for the purposes discussed is that it is a mixed compound which retains the lubricating and protection properties of lanolin, whilst removing the degradation properties of its natural biodegradable nature.

Many oil companies also try to offload leftover, crappy oil into the aerosol options so that they can make profit instead of pay to dispose. Depending on the oil being used, it could be just as detrimental to the seals as raw lanolin.

In the end it comes down to tried and tested, professional/commercial usage, and transparency of the company about ingredients and science behind the mix.

Ocean1
20th March 2016, 12:25
I don't use animal based lubricants?

Why, well let me think........ Firstly they are biodegradeable. Secondly animal and vege based lubricants are triglicerides, when they oxidise they become rancid, just like your local chippy when he doesent change his cooking oil. This is the small fatty acid molecules breaking off the ends of the hydrocarbon chains. I can only think that the fatty acid molecules will strip electrons from your metal chain and corrode it. I would not lube my chain with an animal or vege based lube, as the byproducts of the lube oxidising are hard on your chain life.

Who should you buy lubricants from? A oil company or a wool scouring company who is trying to offload a waste product.

And yet some reckon it protects steel from corrosion better than crude based compounds.

http://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi.ntrs.nasa.gov/20130008194.pdf

And if the primary job of the stuff outside of the seals is corrosion inhibition rather than lubrication then why isn't it a better choice?

AllanB
20th March 2016, 14:23
Is anyone using Spectro Z-Clean chain lube? It sprays on white and it claims there is no fling off when used as directed.

I was - flings off on my bike.

Belray is better.


Stays on the chain :facepalm:

Ocean1
20th March 2016, 15:51
Is anyone using Spectro Z-Clean chain lube? It sprays on white and it claims there is no fling off when used as directed.

The bro recommended it, so I bought a can. It wasn't so good, seemed to collect dirt and distribute it all over the bike.

He commented on the mess, at which point I hit him. But apparently it ain't the same as it used to be. Nor can he find what he once used, which was more of a wax.

That was years ago, he's now using BelRay and he hasn't hit me yet so I assume he's happy with it.

Tazz
20th March 2016, 16:04
I don't use animal based lubricants?

Why, well let me think........ Firstly they are biodegradeable.

Would have thought that is a good thing personally.

WristTwister
20th March 2016, 19:37
The bro recommended it, so I bought a can. It wasn't so good, seemed to collect dirt and distribute it all over the bike.

He commented on the mess, at which point I hit him. But apparently it ain't the same as it used to be. Nor can he find what he once used, which was more of a wax.

That was years ago, he's now using BelRay and he hasn't hit me yet so I assume he's happy with it.

I may try out BelRay next time. Thanks.

Swivel
20th March 2016, 22:08
Nice im going to buy some of this today and lube that bitch up nice and good.

hahahahaha crack up

Berries
20th March 2016, 22:27
Is anyone using Spectro Z-Clean chain lube? It sprays on white and it claims there is no fling off when used as directed.
I use it but will have to read the directions again because it flings off even more than Maha does when he is thinking of Akzle.

Flip
21st March 2016, 12:20
Perhaps the key to this may lay in the words "Based Lubricants" which may involve some type of modern stabilization of the product unlike the bad old days..... Like Lanox MX4 Which I have seen for sale here.

Who knows your rubber band drive on your HD may contain Lanolin as its sometimes used in rubber components to help keep shape and remain pliable.

It was interesting the number of CPC that failed in the carbon steel test after 21 days. I still don't like the idea of animal based lubricants. I have used both beeswax and tallow based black powder lubricants and they don't come close to the protection of good old automotive grease.

My last bike was a Trophy 1200 with a relatively light 525 chain. The first chain lasted 24,000 and I mostly used a castrol chain lube on it every week. I then fitted a new chain and a scott oiler and it was still going strong after 70,000 when I sold it, I also only adjusted it once in that time, I also used 2 bottles of lube in that time.

george formby
21st March 2016, 14:16
Hmmmmm. After reading the last couple of pages of this thread I'm going to try margarine. Seems to tick all the necessary boxes.

caspernz
21st March 2016, 15:47
Hmmmmm. After reading the last couple of pages of this thread I'm going to try margarine. Seems to tick all the necessary boxes.

So the vegetarian option is Marmite then I suppose? At least it's the right colour from the outset...:wacko:

Corse1
22nd March 2016, 12:05
I'm pretty sure the bit that does the cleaning in CRC is kerosene, easier just to use straight kero as it washes off easier afterwards.

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Kerosene is all I ever use for Chain cleaning. Solvent is bad on O rings.

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Then just sprayed it with TAC2.

*Didn't care if it flung all over the bike.
I tried Tac2 once :facepalm:


Prolan here. Most engineering suppliers will have it in aerosol cans.

I first came across it in the form of a light grease, used between dissimilar metals in marine applications, (stainless mast fittings on alloy masts) to minimise galvanic corrosion. Nobody seems to know quite how that works, but it does.

I used Prolan on the dirt bikes for years with good results, but the BelRay is better for the road bikes. In fact I use it on the 525 now too, just lasts longer between cleans.

We use prolan for rust prevention of equipment sent overseas. Works a treat but not sure about chain lube given we use a painters spray gun to apply it :eek5:

I am going to give Inox No Chukka Chain Lube a try http://www.inoxmx.com/inox/mx9-no-chukka-chain-lube/

Yes I know made in Aussie but surely they can do something right! Normally use the Motorex product that sounds similar in performance to the BelRay product mentioned here.

AllanB
22nd March 2016, 22:14
Chukka............Aussies :wacko:

Swivel
24th March 2016, 21:29
I've never used wax lube before. I wonder if its better and safe.

Akzel gave me a red reputation for this comment. Why.:confused: Bit odd.

AllanB
24th March 2016, 21:48
Akzel gave me a red reputation for this comment. Why.:confused:

He was presuming that you were referencing the time he put a candle up his bum.

Swivel
25th March 2016, 01:50
hahahahaha crack up

Sorry it was this comment that warranted a bad rep from Akzel. :confused:

Erelyes
25th March 2016, 09:26
Sorry it was this comment that warranted a bad rep from Akzel. :confused:

hahahahaha crack up

Swivel
26th March 2016, 03:01
Is it true that Akzel doesn't actually own a bike or know how to ride one?

AllanB
27th March 2016, 15:40
Is it true that Akzel doesn't actually own a bike or know how to ride one?

Some say he does not need to ride or own a bike to know about them.



I find most of his comments quite amusing, often borderline but amusing. And lately he has been posting helpful (if amusing) comments too.

All part of the KB family. Like most families if you have a member you don't like - ignore them :-)

Tazz
27th March 2016, 16:37
Is it true that Akzel doesn't actually own a bike or know how to ride one?

Some say that he breaks into people’s houses at night and leaves two mysterious extra keys in a kitchen drawer, and that last week he was found in a locked room tied to a chair with Jewish piano wire. All we know is he’s called Akzle.

Maha
27th March 2016, 17:16
Some say he does not need to ride or own a bike to know about them.



I find most of his comments quite amusing, often borderline but amusing. And lately he has been posting helpful (if amusing) comments too.

All part of the KB family. Like most families if you have a member you don't like - ignore them :-)

Just like skidmark then.

flashg
27th March 2016, 18:45
Some say that he breaks into people’s houses at night and leaves two mysterious extra keys in a kitchen drawer, and that last week he was found in a locked room tied to a chair with Jewish piano wire. All we know is he’s called Akzle.


With an introduction like that I'm in awe...........
Is he related to the Stig off Top Gear by any chance ?

SVboy
27th March 2016, 20:44
Just like skidmark then.

I preferred skid mark. Although that's like saying I prefer genital warts to herpies. I also prefer Maxima chain wax. Used it for years now. No fling whatsoever.

Maha
28th March 2016, 06:50
I preferred skid mark. Although that's like saying I prefer genital warts to herpes. I also prefer Maxima chain wax. Used it for years now. No fling whatsoever.

Mark was the same personality in real life as he was on here, a pain in the arse. That poor bastard that gave him a job in the South Island found that out the hard way. DB is the same person in real life, a dickhead. I found that out the hard way. Then there are the Fakes, that bull buggeing beneficiary is one. Those who jump to his defense affirm this by saying ''he's not like he is online in real life, he's actually a nice guy''. I have zero time for fake people, there are one or two more on here fit that into that category, but most that I have met are the same person online.