Who's there for you?

[Slipstream]

Soppy BS but here we go anyway....


So something bad happens....who do you go to?

I was pondering who I could turn to and realised all my usual people weren't there for differing reasons. Some would never be there again either....
So where do I go? I'm one of those people who needs to go to someone for support...so having noone is difficult when something bad happens...

But then I realised, I come here....

thanx guys :grouphug:

[Sniper]

Thats sad to hear Slip, but hey Im with you on this one. I come online to keep in touch with society (It shows by all my posts doesn't it) but in the real world, I don't have many friends.

I think the best type of friend is someone you haven't even met, yet they still offer to go out of their way for you.

[Slipstream]

.... I don't have many friends.

Wot?! even after your pick up lines????
Seriously tho, I do have friends on the "outside" but they all have their own problems...sometimes even the same problem...going to cry on their shoulder isn't exctly going to help them is it...


I think the best type of friend is someone you haven't even met, yet they still offer to go out of their way for you.

This is true....

[WRT]

I think the best type of friend is someone you haven't even met, yet they still offer to go out of their way for you.

You did exactly that for me, and it wont be forgotten in a hurry! Respect . . .

[bugjuice]

awww...... we're here for ya Slip.. and for anyone else..
when something bad happens for me, I go to that deep dark place inside, where no one finds me..

[jrandom]

aww, you break me up, Slipstream. this is so beautiful. I think Im going to cry now.

[Sniper]

when something bad happens for me, I go to that deep dark place inside, where no one finds me..

I just get on the bike and see where it points me.

[Hitcher]

Family and friends. They do have their uses.

[bugjuice]

I just get on the bike and see where it points me.
skyward :headbang:
and yes, it helps a fuk load

[jrandom]

I just get on the bike and see where it points me.

I take drugs and fondle my guns.

[Slipstream]

aww, you break me up, Slipstream. this is so beautiful. I think Im going to cry now.

you are the weakest link...goodbye:finger:

[Sniper]

I take drugs and fondle my guns.

I hope you mean mechanical death devices.

I find that my bike is a great way to shrug off all the worries of other shit.

[jrandom]

I find that my bike is a great way to shrug off all the worries of other shit.

in my experience that very much depends on what you have to come home to.

[TonyB]

...in the real world, I don't have many friends.
Ahh, but the question is, are the freinds you have GOOD freinds? Something tells me the freinds that you do have hold you in high regard.

Plus, you've got lots of imaginary freinds, like me!

[Sniper]

in my experience that very much depends on what you have to come home to.

Thats very true, in my case, 90% of the time it is too an empty house till the other half finishes.

[Sniper]

Ahh, but the question is, are the freinds you have GOOD freinds? Something tells me the freinds that you do have hold you in high regard.

Plus, you've got lots of imaginary freinds, like me!

Thanks Tony, I like my imaginary friends.

Yea, I do reckon that the friends I do have are worth their weight in gold (Damn I wish I had fat friends!)

[Slipstream]

Thanks Tony, I like my imaginary friends.

Yea, I do reckon that the friends I do have are worth their weight in gold (Damn I wish I had fat friends!)

I'm Phat ... :mellow:

[Sniper]

Lol, I just put you down to cool slip :)

[ManDownUnder]

We're here for you hun.

I had people do me favours and give me support over time - it's payback time.

Help yourself.
MDU

[The_Dover]

Used to be the bottom of a bottle and still is to some extent!

But I have been going through some seriously fucked up shit recently, on top of the usual depression that I have always suffered from, and I have really noticed the friends I have and been overwhelmed by their love and support. Some of them are truly incredible and I feel blessed to know them.

Still riding the bike for hours and coming home and getting pissed helps too!

[Sparky Bills]

I thought riding home last night would help me, but it was cold and raining, so it made everything worse!
AND it was raining this morning too!!! :crybaby:

I just went to bed and slept it off. Still not feeling the best, but still better than i did.
I dont even know what im depressed about! :argh:

[phantom]

It must be the weather. I am just about ready to chuck my job in ( after 24 years with effectively the same company ) and become a bum but then how could I afford a new bike. love my family dearly but when they upset you , you need friends even if you never meet them in person

[Storm]

Once again, thanks Spankme for this site, on behalf of all of us

[Charlie]

So something bad happens....who do you go to?

I was pondering who I could turn to and realised all my usual people weren't there for differing reasons. Some would never be there again either....
So where do I go? I'm one of those people who needs to go to someone for support...so having noone is difficult when something bad happens...

But then I realised, I come here....

thanx guys :grouphug:
Hey Slip, WGTN gal aye?
I moved 12 mths ago for a change of scenery and literally plucked Wellington out of a hat. Has been fairly boring at times not knowing any locals. I play a bit of sport so started meeting a few randon people. Am yet to meet any KBers. Perhaps we should have a non-bike catch up with the WGTN crew at a local bar????

[mstriumph]

Chin up Slip! you'll be suprised how strong you can be when you have to.

- disregarding the background noise [there will always be people who sneer and belittle others onsite] there's plenty of support here on KB i've found.

It's so much to your credit that you prefer not to load your problems onto 'realtime' friends when you think they've got enough problems of their own ------ you are a WINNER gal!! :niceone:

[strayjuliet]

I turn to Wolf. Like Sniper I don't have many friends either (about 3) but thats not counting my online friends. I use the internet as a bit of an escape as well as a device to keep in touch with the rest of the world. :done:

[madboy]

Friends are definitely a quality over quantity thing. I very deliberately dropped out of an entire circle of friends many years ago because when I sat back and thought about it, I realised I didn't really like a lot of them. I spent more time thinking negative thoughts about them than positive, and I decided I didn't want to be a part of that environment any more.

It was a bit lonely for a while (my really good friends all live overseas now either permanently or semi-permanently), but I have a wonderful partner, child and family to support me. The people from KB and other areas of my life that I hang around with are mostly great, and while most wouldn't know me well enough to be called a friend, I'd still help out in all the friendly ways, as I know they would for me when it is needed.

And I internalise a lot... so one day I'll completely f***ing lose it and go postal :devil2:

[FROSTY]

When Im at home with baby bikie tucked up in bed i sorta wonder how i managed to fuck uP so bad Im sitting alone looking at a computer screen.
Freinds dead and freinds moved overseas ya get wary of getting too close to people eventually.

[Slipstream]

When Im at home with baby bikie tucked up in bed i sorta wonder how i managed to fuck uP so bad Im sitting alone looking at a computer screen.
Freinds dead and freinds moved overseas ya get wary of getting too close to people eventually.
really? i like helping out my friends, I like getting close enough to know how to help...but I hate it when I'm feeling down and can't.

do you really not want to get close to people when you get older?? Is that what I have to look forward to??

Maybe I should get a move on and not care....

hey frosty.... :hug:

[Hitcher]

Ting, ting, ting, ting. Tunes world's smallest violin...

[vifferman]

Ting, ting, ting, ting. Tunes world's smallest violin...
Play me a tune, Mr Hitcher?

[Slipstream]

this place, it's like a mine field.

you talk to 1 or 2 people, maybe even 3......then everybody starts chineese whispering. next thing you know....BOOM!!! another catastrophe....
maybe you're right Frosty. Maybe it's just wary getting close to people....
I'm not a bottler, I can't keep things inside. But I thought I could trust a few people to talk to. If it turns out that they can't be trusted...I don't trust them anymore....but usually thats just enough to make your life miserable again.

I'm very picky about who I talk to now, but it seems that I still just can't seem to find out who the honest people are....you keep their secrets, but they don't keep yours....

So again, maybe I don't even have this place....

And what has this to do with anything about bikes.....
ABSOLUTELY F**KING NOTHING!!!!!!!!!
SO YOU CAN F**KING BITE ME!!!!!!!!
:argh: :argh: :argh: :argh: :argh: :argh: :argh: :argh:

[Zed]

But then I realised, I come here....

thanx guys :grouphug:I new there was another reason, besides motorcycles, you came here! :whistle:

[enigma51]

this place, it's like a mine field.

you talk to 1 or 2 people, maybe even 3......then everybody starts chineese whispering. next thing you know....BOOM!!! another catastrophe....
maybe you're right Frosty. Maybe it's just wary getting close to people....
I'm not a bottler, I can't keep things inside. But I thought I could trust a few people to talk to. If it turns out that they can't be trusted...I don't trust them anymore....but usually thats just enough to make your life miserable again.

I'm very picky about who I talk to now, but it seems that I still just can't seem to find out who the honest people are....you keep their secrets, but they don't keep yours....

So again, maybe I don't even have this place....

And what has this to do with anything about bikes.....
ABSOLUTELY F**KING NOTHING!!!!!!!!!
SO YOU CAN F**KING BITE ME!!!!!!!!
:argh: :argh: :argh: :argh: :argh: :argh: :argh: :argh:

Slipstream dont worry there is a few on this site that consider you a friend even thought we have not met you in person :whistle:

[Hitcher]

Play me a tune, Mr Hitcher?
When you’re down and troubled
And you need a helping hand
And nothing, whoa nothing is going right.
Close your eyes and think of me
And soon I will be there
To brighten up even your darkest nights.

You just call out my name,
And you know where-ever I am
I’ll come running, oh yeah baby
To see you again.
Winter, spring, summer, or fall,
All you have to do is call
And I’ll be there, yeah, yeah, yeah.
You’ve got a friend.

If the sky above you
Should turn dark and full of clouds
And that old north wind should begin to blow
Keep your head together and call my name out loud
And soon I will be knocking upon your door.
You just call out my name and you know where ever I am
I’ll come running to see you again.
Winter, spring, summer or fall
All you got to do is call
And I’ll be there, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Hey, ain’t it good to know that you’ve got a friend?
People can be so cold.
They’ll hurt you and desert you.
Well they’ll take your soul if you let them.
Oh yeah, but don’t you let them.

You just call out my name and you know wherever I am
I’ll come running to see you again.
Oh babe, don’t you know that,
Winter spring summer or fall,
Hey now, all you’ve got to do is call.
Lord, I’ll be there, yes I will.
You’ve got a friend.
You’ve got a friend.
Ain’t it good to know you’ve got a friend.
Ain’t it good to know you’ve got a friend.
You’ve got a friend.

[Sniper]

Im with what enigma said.

[Slipstream]

Slipstream dont worry there is a few on this site that consider you a friend even thought we have not met you in person :whistle:

Sure they do...they consider me so much a friend that they try and fix things by breaking my trust and doing worse damage by not keeping their mouth shut!!!

Christ...I joined this site for 2 reasons....and I stayed on the site for one of those reasons....bikes....unfortunately I dug too deep and now I seem almost dependent on this site when things go bad for me.......

I don't want a partner to cry on their shoulder, I don't want a quick fix, I would like the answer on how do you know if you can really trust someone???

[Charlie]

really? i like helping out my friends, I like getting close enough to know how to help...but I hate it when I'm feeling down and can't.

do you really not want to get close to people when you get older?? Is that what I have to look forward to??

Maybe I should get a move on and not care....

hey frosty.... :hug:
No, dont not care! Mates are important and am sure they appreciate your friendship and help. Remember what goes around comes around.

[Slipstream]

No, dont not care! Mates are important and am sure they appreciate your friendship and help. Remember what goes around comes around.

Well Im getting f**king really pissed off that I keep getting shat on just cos I get tricked into believeing that when someone asks
"what's wrong"
a) they won't tell anyone
b) they actually care

Damn it....I am able to keep my mouth shut....I can keep secrets....if I don't there would be a damn good reason for me not to.

[vifferman]

When you’re down and troubled
.... [snippety doodah] <SNIPPETY doodah>...
Ain’t it good to know you’ve got a friend.
You’ve got a friend.
Oh, that's bewdifooool, Hitcher.





Does this mean you're my friend? :confused:

[Slipstream]

Well done ... you win ... be happy now ... i'm upset, alone and crying ... bad shit has happened to me and I don't know how to cope, I go to the one place which I feel that I can ... and I get shat on behind the scenes ... did I really get what I deserved? really? have I just reacted out of self-defence?

I'm a firm believer of Kharma .... what comes around, definitely does go around ... I can be patient ... and I'm going to laugh ... well actually no, I'm not ... but I will be satisfied.

Trust, people ... it's hard to keep it's even harder to find


:crybaby:

[Charlie]

I would like the answer on how do you know if you can really trust someone???
Man you guys type fast.

In answer to your question Slip; You cant. Its instinct mostly I guess, but even then your sometimes wrong. Thats why it hurts so bad when you give your trust for someone you thinks deserves it and they turn around and stop on it.

I'm not sure what the underlying thing is here but there are plently of people out there worthy...

Hope all is well.

[vifferman]

Remember what goes around comes around.
... and that no good deed goes unpunished. :yes:

[Lou Girardin]

I don't want a partner to cry on their shoulder, I don't want a quick fix, I would like the answer on how do you know if you can really trust someone???

You don't. Until they break that trust.
That's what makes human relationships the complex things that they are.
The alternative is much worse.

[Cibby]

Hay slipstream..

I know how ya feel, some times you just gotta get stuff out and lets face it, typing words on a screen to people whom you dont know and who cant really hurt you is a very safe way of doing it.. liek everyone says.. we are all here for ya

I think just in general people need to be careful how much time they spend online as to become uninvolved with the real world.. I've found that KB is a brilliant world, everyone is hot (assumption here) everyone has kick arse bikes (once again not completely true) and everyone is one big caring family to share stuff with..

We would all be a psychologists field day...

:eek5:

[mstriumph]

.......
I don't want a partner to cry on their shoulder, I don't want a quick fix, I would like the answer on how do you know if you can really trust someone???

i don't believe there's anyone anywhere who hasn't been turned on and betrayed by someone they trusted

it hurts like hell - but don't let it make you scared and bitter too.

[Hitcher]

Oh, that's bewdifooool, Hitcher.
Does this mean you're my friend?
Piss off. It's Wednesday.

[Riff Raff]

Damn it....I am able to keep my mouth shut....I can keep secrets....if I don't there would be a damn good reason for me not to.Not trying to be nasty here Lena, but if you hadn't opened said mouth, there wouldn't be a problem. Think about it.

[Deano]

Ting, ting, ting, ting. Tunes world's smallest violin...

Fuck I reckon - I thought I had a few issues.

You're all too soft, harden up. Build a bridge and get over it.

I feel much better now. :drinkup:

[Slipstream]

Hahahaha

How many times have I tried to see a councillor so I don't have to burden a friend...or question their trust?
a few....
tried, cos they don't have the time to fit me in, or the phone is engaged

for all those people who can bottle it all up or have an actually trustworthy friend .... you're lucky ... how do you do it??

... I have friends who I am "there for" I back them up through thick and thin ...
but you know... if I do that for them and they "don't" for me... they're really not my friends ...are they?

[Slipstream]

Not trying to be nasty here Lena, but if you hadn't opened said mouth, there wouldn't be a problem. Think about it.

Hey Riff...what you "think" you know...is only part of it...not even that is the main problem

BTW...I'm not the ONLY one who know's what you are trying to refer to ...

think about THAT!!!

[Sniper]

Hey guys, Slipstream is feeling a bit delicate now. You are being a bit rude towards her. Grow up.

[Motu]

People don't trust me....understandable I suppose - but I'm pretty good with secrets,I don't get many secrets worth selling....

[Time]

It takes time to build a bridge and some bricks that you use to make it will break. But you have to keep on building it. Some people will try and smash it, graffiti to make it look different than what it really is.

All you need is time ... people who stay by you and help you build that bridge will be the true friends you seem to be seeking. The others will crumble and fade away.

All you need is time ...

[ManDownUnder]

I don't want a partner to cry on their shoulder, I don't want a quick fix, I would like the answer on how do you know if you can really trust someone???

Wait till they're drunk and trust them with things that don't matter so much.

[James Deuce]

(snip)
I don't want a partner to cry on their shoulder, I don't want a quick fix, I would like the answer on how do you know if you can really trust someone???

Tell them something really terrible and see how far they run. Experienced that on a grand scale very recently. Surprising who hangs about and does good things and gives meaningful support or help, who blusters and spouts platitudes, and who just quietly fades into either the background or a sea of denial.

Family have been useless in my case. Government support agencies have been anything but. The medical and nursing professions are clueless. A small coterie of Humans Being have saved me from myself. Most of them motorcyclists, military, or musicians.

But I struggle daily with horrific demons of my own making, and at the end of the day your fate is in your own hands. You have to go on.

[Sniper]

Family have been useless in my case. Government support agencies have been anything but. The medical and nursing professions are clueless. A small coterie of Humans Being have saved me from myself. Most of them motorcyclists, military, or musicians.

But I struggle daily with horrific demons of my own making, and at the end of the day your fate is in your own hands. You have to go on.

Amen, those are true words Jim.

[vifferman]

Piss off. It's Wednesday.
So... is that a 'Yes', or a 'No' ? :confused:

[Sniper]

So... is that a 'Yes', or a 'No' ? :confused:

I take it as unless you pledge to BDOTGNZA its a no. :mellow:

I just paid him

[jrandom]

all right, let's see what my old brain spits forth on this topic.

entirely tangential to Slipstream's problems, but perhaps related. no direct comment implied however.

in my experience, when life shits upon you, its usually traceable back to some decision you took yourself. perhaps in good faith, even could have been the best judgement given the available information at the time.

regardless, personal responsibility and causality still exist and are at the bottom of everything.

grit your teeth and spit in the world's face. money problems are just numbers in computers, and people problems are just imperfect human nature doing its thing. there's always a way to come out on top, even if all it means is dying one day with the knowledge that you kept your integrity and honour.

there is no happiness like loving and being loved by a worthy person. those of you with children are doubly blessed and should never deal lightly with the love you've been handed on a platter.

for Slipstream... to the extent that life has shat upon her, I sympathise. to the extent that she has brought pain upon herself through foolishness and weakness, I do not. I have no idea what that ratio may be.

[enigma51]

and people problems are just imperfect human nature
A few years ago I realy had a problem with the fact that everyone was not as perfect as me but now I have made peace with it :sweatdrop

[jrandom]

A few years ago I realy had a problem with the fact that everyone was not as perfect as me...

oh, Lord, it's hard to be humble...

[enigma51]

oh, Lord, it's hard to be humble...
Fuck off its my planet :whistle:




Ps Im only kidding!

[vifferman]

I take it as unless you pledge to BDOTGNZA its a no. :mellow:

I just paid him
I don't need to pledge to BDOTGNZA - Murknisms of all sorts and their associated language manglings are anathema to me, regardless of what Hitcher thinks about it/them.

[ManDownUnder]

I think it's worth wondering who you are there for too...

[jrandom]

I think it's worth wondering who you are there for too...

no no. shut up. it's all about me...

[NC]

I know what you mean.
Went to the garage this morning and the A100 had a flat front tyre (2 bikes with 2 flat tyers) I was gutted! But then Nick gave me the 636 for the day :love: :love: :love:

[*sic]

expectation of friends can put you on your ass, in reality you have to remember those around you dont owe you shit, so if you take whatever comes from them as a bonus then your always going to be sweet.

expectation, and hope are killers.

[Deano]

It takes time to build a bridge
All you need is time ...

:laugh: Are you offering help ?

[SPman]

To quote someone else on this site
"Hell is other people's EXPECTATIONS of us! "
and can also be, your expectations of other people.
Being shat on sucks big time - I know, coming out of a period of my life where nearly everything I hoped for, expected or assumed, turned to shit around me!
If you have no ones ear to bend, then that can make it worse, but, ultimately, you only have yourself to rely on....take anything else as a blessed bonus.

[Lou Girardin]

no no. shut up. it's all about me...

It can't be, Big Dave says it's all about him.
In fact you're both wrong.

[jrandom]

It can't be, Big Dave says it's all about him.

I'm Big Dave in drag.

[Hitcher]

I seem to remember NC, in her numerated days, running a poll on this topic. From memory I think it was all about her...

[Storm]

Then it was all about Riff Raff, then all about Slipstream(or whatever she was called back then). Its all about everyone maybe?

[ManDownUnder]

I'm Big Dave in drag.

nets? and another 10 letters...

[Big Dave]

I'm Big Dave in drag.

Nah - not true. we're too similar. rude and sarcastic in the name of a gag. if i was going to pretend to be someone else they would have to be all sweetness and light or it would be too obvious.

I do wonder who you were before being Fish. I reckon you may be male, or you have remarkably similar attitudes to my Mrs. - But either way - I don't do drag, I don't hug white guys and I am a devoutly hetrosexual ladies man.

[Lou Girardin]

I don't hug white guys .

Once black, you'll never go back?

[NC]

I seem to remember NC, in her numerated days, running a poll on this topic. From memory I think it was all about her...
NO the pole was run about me, for me.

But I'm glad you remember :headbang:

[Big Dave]

Once black, you'll never go back?

When there are 3 x 6'7" Maori lads that want to be all respect and friendly at the end of the game....yes I'm native, cuz.
I wouldn't advise the smaller Italian descendant in a bike shop to attempt it.

[Motu]

Lou is a Black Wear salesman....he's got no worries.

[MrMelon]

NO the pole was run about me, for me.

But I'm glad you remember :headbang:

hehehe you said pole.

[ManDownUnder]

hehehe you said pole.

I've heard amasing things about what she can do with her pole...:love:

[Lou Girardin]

When there are 3 x 6'7" Maori lads that want to be all respect and friendly at the end of the game....yes I'm native, cuz.
I wouldn't advise the smaller Italian descendant in a bike shop to attempt it.

I have no desire to attempt it. I'm straight.

[crazylittleshit]

I've heard amasing things about what she can do with her pole...:love:
:ar15: :ar15: :tugger: