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jonnyk5614
25th February 2016, 02:23
I went into cycletreads the other day and the saleslady recommended the new Shark S700S. It felt really good in the shop... I thought.

I tried a few other helmets and didn't like any of them - fit was way off - so ended up back with the S700S.

After wearing it for an hour though, I got the most abominable forehead pain. Pull over and rip the helmet off pain...

I've now ridden the thing for 1600 miles and the only way of solving the issue is to chuck a pack of tissues under the liner at the top to raise it up. It isn't comfortable because the chins are too high up my face and obviously the thing isn't on properly.

I'm guessing cycletreads will tell me "soz bro, no returns" which is fair enough.

My first helmet was a $100 THH TS-39 which was awesome fit. I then got a RJays Dominator Race + which was fairly good (I really the sun visor).

So yeah, any advice? I'm getting to the point of taking a hot wire to the rectangle the fucks with my forehead.

insomnia01
25th February 2016, 06:28
go talk to them you might be surprised :yeah: didn't you buy the busa from them? if all else fails buy something that fits better & offload the shark on TM

Akzle
25th February 2016, 06:34
So yeah, any advice? I'm getting to the point of taking a hot wire to the rectangle the fucks with my forehead.

you could do that.

Or.

Get a $100 THH TS-39 or a RJays Dominator Race +

Katman
25th February 2016, 07:11
Reshape your forehead with a hammer.

iYRe
25th February 2016, 08:15
$160 for a 1tonne helmet with a sun visor inside. Had it for 3 years.. comfy enough, cheap enough, great service and well... I've tried a few diff helmets up to 500$ worth and this is just as good as any of those
http://www.1tonne.co.nz/index.php?page=listings&categoryid=106

(I have a flip top head one, cuz I wear glasses, otherwise I'd get the titanium one)

Tazz
25th February 2016, 08:31
Go talk to em, otherwise yeah, apparently that helmet is not for your swede shape.

People do successfully trim the polystyrene without dying a horrid death if all else fails.

Tis a shame because Sharks are farking choice helmets.

nodrog
25th February 2016, 08:42
It must Be the right shape if you brought it in new zealand

jonnyk5614
25th February 2016, 08:43
Go talk to em, otherwise yeah, apparently that helmet is not for your swede shape.

People do successfully trim the polystyrene without dying a horrid death if all else fails.

Tis a shame because Sharks are farking choice helmets.

Yeah - I love the helmet otherwise. Light weight, quiet, well made, pinlock, a visor that actually stays in the place where you set it....

I would try to return it but it is covered in mosquitoes and there is a small hole through the cheek-pad for my speaker wires!

jonnyk5614
25th February 2016, 08:45
Go talk to em, otherwise yeah, apparently that helmet is not for your swede shape.

People do successfully trim the polystyrene without dying a horrid death if all else fails.

Tis a shame because Sharks are farking choice helmets.

Best way to trim? Sandpaper, heatwire, knife... ?

Tazz
25th February 2016, 09:43
Best way to trim? Sandpaper, heatwire, knife... ?

I'd use a scalpel. If I couldn't find the one sitting about 7m away from me :laugh:, I'd snap a tab of two off a fresh craft knife blade and use that.

Moi
25th February 2016, 09:50
Best way to trim? Sandpaper, heatwire, knife... ?

I had the same issue with my Nolan. I took to the sharp edge [across the right forehead] of the styrofoam with a flat bookbinder's bone - yeah, everyone has one in the bottom drawer in the kitchen :innocent: - but you could use a knife handle. Use it to compress the stryofoam and round off the sharpness.

AllanB
25th February 2016, 21:12
Yeah - I love the helmet otherwise. Light weight, quiet, well made, pinlock, a visor that actually stays in the place where you set it....




That's like saying I love my girlfriend other than her penis ...........

If it does not fit it is shit.

Berries
25th February 2016, 22:30
Two weeks on holiday in Zika might fix it?

jonnyk5614
25th February 2016, 23:23
That's like saying I love my girlfriend other than her penis ...........

If it does not fit it is shit.

It is comfy for the first hour....

nodrog
26th February 2016, 08:00
... Use it to compress the stryofoam and round off the sharpness.

yeah to take the actual protective element away from the helmet.

nerrrd
26th February 2016, 09:41
100% agree that in a perfect world you should only wear a helmet that fits out of the box, but I've never found one. Probably not looking hard enough I guess, but I always end up having to sand the forehead area - oh except for the Shoei I had which was OK front to back but too wide sideways (maybe packing out the sides would be a better approach?) Actually even that put pressure on my forehead at open road speeds - too loose I guess.

Haven't ever crash tested any of my adultered helmets, I expect if I ever do my head will explode.

jonnyk5614
26th February 2016, 09:53
yeah to take the actual protective element away from the helmet.

Yeah - I would have thought compression was a stupid idea. Shaving a few mm off probably better?

Obviously you are better doing nothing but constant headaches aren't exactly safe either.

Moi
26th February 2016, 10:21
yeah to take the actual protective element away from the helmet.

The amount that the styrofoam is compressed is 1 to 2 mm - but that is enough to remove the pressure against the forehead. And it is along a sharp edge not across the whole section... just as if you were taking the edge off a piece of wood with sandpaper...

MD
26th February 2016, 12:09
I hear your pain.

I got a new Bell in December and all seemed sweet in the shop wearing it for 1 minute.
First ride, 30 minutes in and head starts throbbing around the upper forehead. Pain gets worse until you are forced to pull over and take a break. I used a small knife to make a series of cuts into the polystyrene to speed up the 'bedding in' phase. Seems to have worked but it still hurts a bit if I wear it for more than an hour.

Ignore these keyboard experts saying tampering with the structure will void the helmets ability to save your life in a 200kph head on with a train.

buggerit
26th February 2016, 17:30
Have you tried turning it round?:lol:

AllanB
26th February 2016, 20:57
It is a shame that it is not cost effective to have 'test ride' lids. Particularly in the high end - it is a fair leap of faith dropping a grand or more on the presumption it will be fine two hours down the road.

I have found over the years my head suits either HJC lids or the expensive Arai. Lots of other brands are not suitable. And to add to the debate I have seen nothing that makes a $1000 Arai worth more than a $500 HJC ..........

skippa1
27th February 2016, 06:04
Get a packet of tissues surgically attached to the top of your nogan, the operation is common amoungst those that buy the wrong helmet and is called "a tissue" or sneeze for short.

pritch
27th February 2016, 09:32
yeah to take the actual protective element away from the helmet.

Ahhh, but he's now having to make the best of a bad situation. I guy I know used to flatten the front lining with a hammer. Hopefully with the helmet sitting on a folded towel or similar to protect the paint. He was only doing that so that he could wear a helmet brand that he sold.

As you point out though, he was thereby reducing the protection in the event of a blow to the forehead.

Tazz
27th February 2016, 09:39
Ahhh, but he's now having to make the best of a bad situation. I guy I know used to flatten the front lining with a hammer. Hopefully with the helmet sitting on a folded towel or similar to protect the paint. He was only doing that so that he could wear a helmet brand that he sold.

As you point out though, he was thereby reducing the protection in the event of a blow to the forehead.

In the vein of making the best of a bad situation, trimming away a pressure point would have to be better than riding with it, where in an accident there would be more force than anywhere else on your noggin. I would have thought so anyway.

F5 Dave
29th April 2016, 07:40
Bit late I guess I don't come here. I've had to sand the front of my hjc which was comfortable for 1\2 hr but never broke in further. Now its fine, and yes a pressure point can't be as safe as a custom fit even fit.

Akzle
29th April 2016, 08:20
Bit late I guess I don't come here. I've had to sand the front of my hjc which was comfortable for 1\2 hr but never broke in further. Now its fine, and yes a pressure point can't be as safe as a custom fit even fit.

you drunk .

Erelyes
29th April 2016, 17:56
It is a shame that it is not cost effective to have 'test ride' lids. Particularly in the high end - it is a fair leap of faith dropping a grand or more on the presumption it will be fine two hours down the road.

I have found over the years my head suits either HJC lids or the expensive Arai. Lots of other brands are not suitable. And to add to the debate I have seen nothing that makes a $1000 Arai worth more than a $500 HJC ..........

I have found it's dangerous to say 'my head fits <brand>'.

I'm normally a large. I tried an RPHA-10 on in the shops, to my immense surprise a medium fit me and was comfy to boot. I also tried a large FG-17 and it fit but had pressure points everywhere. A medium was nowhere near close to even starting to go over my head. Go figure.

skippa1
29th April 2016, 18:18
you drunk .
Akzle is right

F5 Dave
29th April 2016, 19:38
It seemed a normal enough kind of post. What tipped you off?

Changing octane rating now. Rambling mode engaged.

FG17 is about my 7th HJC. I've slightly eased the area with a spoon before but this one didn't get better. Great now though.

I have a bit of a bump. My dad used to carry me around on his shoulders but forgot to duck for a doorway.

Explains a lot I guess.