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Akzle
28th February 2016, 12:32
Three movies/ documentaries. Im watching the second now.

How it is, that ive missed something that articulates pretty much my beliefs, for 6 years...

Id like especially, bogan and ocean, to grant me two hours of their time in at least watching the second one.
TDL, too. But i have less hope for you.

bogan
28th February 2016, 12:39
something that articulates pretty much my beliefs, for 6 years...

If you (and by inference, the video) had any semblance of adequate communication skills, you could articulate a summary first...

If not, I'll just chalk it up to a xSM propaganda flick design for indoctrination instead of education.

Katman
28th February 2016, 12:58
If you (and by inference, the video) had any semblance of adequate communication skills, you could articulate a summary first...

If not, I'll just chalk it up to a xSM propaganda flick design for indoctrination instead of education.

You sound scared that you might actually learn something.

oldrider
28th February 2016, 13:03
If you (and by inference, the video) had any semblance of adequate communication skills, you could articulate a summary first...

If not, I'll just chalk it up to a xSM propaganda flick design for indoctrination instead of education.

The old adage springs to mind: "None so blind as those that will not see!" - but then again this is bogan it's to be expected he's indoctrinated to remain a follower! :facepalm:

Akzle
28th February 2016, 13:08
If you (and by inference, the video) had any semblance of adequate communication skills, you could articulate a summary first...

If not, I'll just chalk it up to a xSM propaganda flick design for indoctrination instead of education.

i pretty much have, at one time or another.
So theres a good deal of confirmation bias on my part. Gleaned a few nuggets hitherto unbeknownst to me though.

Interesting how you explain it all away...

bogan
28th February 2016, 13:21
You sound scared that you might actually learn something.


The old adage springs to mind: "None so blind as those that will not see!" - but then again this is bogan it's to be expected he's indoctrinated to remain a follower! :facepalm:


i pretty much have, at one time or another.
So theres a good deal of confirmation bias on my part. Gleaned a few nuggets hitherto unbeknownst to me though.

Interesting how you explain it all away...

No summary given, no understanding shown, no rational thought present.

By all means stay in the dark corner hissing insults at those who are enlightened; but if you wish to come out of the dark, only rational discussion will get you there. Posting 'watch this until you agree with me' videos of indoctrination, while being unable to summarise what exactly is worth watching, just shows you to be worthless shitters only interested in wasting others time. Perhaps this is in some sort of effort to bring the productivity and intellect of others down to your miserable levels.

Other than that, you have a nice day eh; I know I will :sunny:

Woodman
28th February 2016, 13:50
No summary given, no understanding shown, no rational thought present.

By all means stay in the dark corner hissing insults at those who are enlightened; but if you wish to come out of the dark, only rational discussion will get you there. Posting 'watch this until you agree with me' videos of indoctrination, while being unable to summarise what exactly is worth watching, just shows you to be worthless shitters only interested in wasting others time. Perhaps this is in some sort of effort to bring the productivity and intellect of others down to your miserable levels.

Other than that, you have a nice day eh; I know I will :sunny:

True. They just lurk around youtube looking for videos that suit their agendas, then namecall anyone that doesn't do the same.:laugh:

mashman
28th February 2016, 14:00
I only ever saw the second one. Meh.

puddytat
28th February 2016, 14:01
I think that they are all worth watching.......really.

For me there are bits & pieces that Im a tad dubious about but ...a lot of the content is good food for thought.

You just need to leave the "holier than thou" shit at the door....
The first one goes a long way in explaining how we got religion....& its all down hill from there if you ask me.

oldrider
28th February 2016, 14:12
True. They just lurk around youtube looking for videos that suit their agendas, then namecall anyone that doesn't do the same.:laugh:

And of course you are being forced to read, view and comment on all of this material - there is no such thing as freedom of choice?

If you don't want to read view or comment simply ignore it and move on - but you can't can you?

You feel you just have to denounce the poster and their material offered just as you accuse! :rolleyes:

There are nursery rhymes from way back to describe people like you guys.

I.E. "Little Jack horner sat in his corner eating his pudding pie he put in his thumb and pulled out a plumb saying what a good boy am I". :niceone:

Katman
28th February 2016, 14:51
True. They just lurk around youtube looking for videos that suit their agendas, then namecall anyone that doesn't do the same.:laugh:

You sound too scared to watch it as well.

Woodman
28th February 2016, 14:56
And of course you are being forced to read, view and comment on all of this material - there is no such thing as freedom of choice?

If you don't want to read view or comment simply ignore it and move on - but you can't can you?

You feel you just have to denounce the poster and their material offered just as you accuse! :rolleyes:

There are nursery rhymes from way back to describe people like you guys.

I.E. "Little Jack horner sat in his corner eating his pudding pie he put in his thumb and pulled out a plumb saying what a good boy am I". :niceone:


You sound too scared to watch it as well.


Like I said..

Akzle
28th February 2016, 15:03
By all means stay in the dark corner hissing insults at those who are enlightened; but if you wish to come out of the dark, only rational discussion will get you there. Posting 'watch this until you agree with me' videos of indoctrination, while being unable to summarise what exactly is worth watching, just shows you to be worthless shitters only interested in wasting others time. Perhaps this is in some sort of effort to bring the productivity and intellect of others down to your miserable levels.


your right. I did all of those things. :facepalm:

bogan
28th February 2016, 15:41
And of course you are being forced to read, view and comment on all of this material - there is no such thing as freedom of choice?

Can't you see us exercising our freedom of choice to not view propaganda films, and to educate others about features to look for in order to spot one who promotes indoctrinatory material.

You seem to confuse freedom of speech, with censure of speech; it's a common trait with bigots, just look at old trumpy...

Katman
28th February 2016, 15:50
Can't you see us exercising our freedom of choice to not view propaganda films, and to educate others about features to look for in order to spot one who promotes indoctrinatory material.

You seem to confuse freedom of speech, with censure of speech; it's a common trait with bigots, just look at old trumpy...

You just keep on getting more fucking stupid by the day.

oldrider
28th February 2016, 16:07
Can't you see us exercising our freedom of choice to not view propaganda films, and to educate others about features to look for in order to spot one who promotes indoctrinatory material.

You seem to confuse freedom of speech, with censure of speech; it's a common trait with bigots, just look at old trumpy...

Look in the mirror - pot kettle black!

To me it you who is confused but while it is your right to be confused unfortunately you want censorship against my rights!

Why can't you simply allow other members/readers/viewers to decide for themselves!

Influence them by all means but don't try to sensor my contributions according to your own special preferences!

And by the way - just because I post something for consideration it doesn't mean that I automatically believe or agree with it entirely if at all!

That IMHO is for the reader/viewer to decide for themselves - all I am interested in is that they have the opportunity to think about it!

bogan
28th February 2016, 16:29
Look in the mirror - pot kettle black!

To me it you who is confused but while it is your right to be confused unfortunately you want censorship against my rights!

Why can't you simply allow other members/readers/viewers to decide for themselves!

Influence them by all means but don't try to sensor my contributions according to your own special preferences!

And by the way - just because I post something for consideration it doesn't mean that I automatically believe or agree with it entirely if at all!

That IMHO is for the reader/viewer to decide for themselves - all I am interested in is that they have the opportunity to think about it!

In what instance do I want censorship against your rights?

See you still confuse censor, with critical evaluation, censor is not pointing out how your bullshit is bullshit, censoring would be removing it entirely. Or censoring would be preventing others from pointing out how your bullshit is bullshit...

That's the difference between you an me oldy (one of many I'm happy to say), I want to allow other members/readers/viewers to decide for themselves in full awareness of the relevant information. You just want them to be indoctrinated by your information, hence you ad-hominific railing against my critical evaluation of your bullshit.

Katman
28th February 2016, 16:32
See you still confuse censor, with critical evaluation.......

What a load of fucking shit.

How can you critically evaluate something that you refuse to view?

You fucking moron.

husaberg
28th February 2016, 16:44
True. They just lurk around youtube looking for videos that suit their agendas, then namecall anyone that doesn't do the same.:laugh:
You called it.

You just keep on getting more fucking stupid by the day.


What a load of fucking shit.
You fucking moron.

Katman
28th February 2016, 16:48
You called it.

I'll call a moron a fucking moron every time.

Fucking moron.

husaberg
28th February 2016, 17:07
I'll call a moron a fucking moron every time.

Fucking moron.
Only thing is judging by the content of the crap you post you are the gullible moron.
Plus as soon as you are upset out comes the begging for your cock to be sucked via the rep comments

Thus true to form again woodman called it. Just as TDL often does, as does Bogan, You are indeed that predictable, that you are a sad cliché.

True. They just lurk around youtube looking for videos that suit their agendas, then namecall anyone that doesn't do the same.:laugh:




You sad moronic fuck.


You just keep on getting more fucking stupid by the day.


What a load of fucking shit.
You fucking moron.

bogan
28th February 2016, 17:14
What a load of fucking shit.

How can you critically evaluate something that you refuse to view?

You fucking moron.

By proxy, obviously :rolleyes:

It's like how you criticise all the things ever, without having an education.

Katman
28th February 2016, 17:17
By proxy, obviously

Do you live your life by proxy?

You sad moronic fuck.

bogan
28th February 2016, 17:29
Do you live your life by proxy?

You sad moronic fuck.

Obviously not, that is why I don't have time to view hours and hours of youtube videos; so instead critique them by their proxy, their proxy being those who recommend them but have seemingly learnt nothing about them.

Katman
28th February 2016, 18:07
Obviously not, that is why I don't have time to view hours and hours of youtube videos; so instead critique them by their proxy, their proxy being those who recommend them but have seemingly learnt nothing about them.

Fuck you talk some shit.

You spend more time on here arguing against watching any video presented to you than you would learning something from it.

oldrider
28th February 2016, 18:09
Obviously not, that is why I don't have time to view hours and hours of youtube videos; so instead critique them by their proxy, their proxy being those who recommend them but have seemingly learnt nothing about them.

.................................................. ................. . :mellow: . . (strangely you appear to have at least one redeeming feature - a good sense of humour)

Ocean1
28th February 2016, 18:34
Three movies/ documentaries. Im watching the second now.

How it is, that ive missed something that articulates pretty much my beliefs, for 6 years...

Id like especially, bogan and ocean, to grant me two hours of their time in at least watching the second one.
TDL, too. But i have less hope for you.

Is it more than the apparent Jordan Maxwell "Matrix of Power" rip off it appears to be at first glance?

bogan
28th February 2016, 18:58
Fuck you talk some shit.

You spend more time on here arguing against watching any video presented to you than you would learning something from it.

You've got your tits in an awful tangle tonight there fulla; making even less sense than normal.

Take a chill pill and try thinking rationally, a video has been watched, there is no evidence anything has been learnt, why should others watch the video?


.................................................. ................. . :mellow: . . (strangely you appear to have at least one redeeming feature - a good sense of humour)

Strangley enough, you again turn from the truth.

Katman
28th February 2016, 19:05
Take a chill pill and try thinking rationally, a video has been watched, there is no evidence anything has been learnt, why should others watch the video?


The fact that you're too scared to view the videos speaks volumes.

bogan
28th February 2016, 19:07
The fact that you're too scared to view the videos speaks volumes.

*too rational.

A video has been watched, there is no evidence anything has been learnt, why should others watch the video?

All that I have to fear is wasting my time...

Woodman
28th February 2016, 19:09
The fact that you're too scared to view the videos speaks volumes.

:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh: at scared

Akzle
28th February 2016, 19:17
Is it more than the apparent Jordan Maxwell "Matrix of Power" rip off it appears to be at first glance?

having not seen it, cant comment

Ocean1
28th February 2016, 19:28
having not seen it, cant comment

Looks very much like it.

http://www.amazon.com/Matrix-Power-Controlled-Powerful-Knowledge/dp/1585091200

TheDemonLord
28th February 2016, 20:04
This thread, to a fucking T (http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Gish_Gallop)

Katman
28th February 2016, 20:07
This thread, to a fucking T (http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Gish_Gallop)

Another one too scared to view the videos.

TheDemonLord
28th February 2016, 20:12
Another one too scared to view the videos.

Can you summarise them?

bogan
28th February 2016, 20:25
This thread, to a fucking T (http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Gish_Gallop)

Lets see if it goes both ways...


Another one too scared to view the videos.

You should watch this to learn some things https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hj7u3G_K6TA

Voltaire
28th February 2016, 20:38
Started to watch it until I realised I had better things to do with my time...
looked at synopsis ...
OMG...more religious drivel and conspiracy crap.
Clearly Azel has lots of time to watch tele.

ZEITGEIST I: THE MOVIE

The film opens with animated abstract visualizations, film and stock footage, a cartoon and audio quotes about spirituality, followed by clips of war, explosions, and the September 11 attacks. This is followed by the film’s title screen. The film’s introduction ends with a portion of the late comedian George Carlin‘s monologue on religion accompanied by an animated cartoon. The rest of the film, divided into three parts, is narrated by Peter Joseph.

Part I: The Greatest Story Ever Sold

Part I questions religions as being god-given stories, arguing that the Christian religion specifically is mainly derived from other religions, astronomical facts, astrological myths and traditions, which in turn were derived from or shared elements with others. In furtherance of the Jesus myth hypothesis, this part argues that the historical Jesus is a literary and astrological hybrid, nurtured politically. The work of Acharya S, author of The Christ Conspiracy: The Greatest Story Ever Sold, was used extensively in part I of the movie.[13] She also acted as consultant only for part I of the movie.[14]

Part II: All the World’s a Stage

Part II uses integral footage of several 9/11 conspiracy theory films to claim that the September 11 attacks were either orchestrated or allowed to happen by elements within the United States government in order to generate mass fear, initiate and justify the War on Terror, provide a pretext for the curtailment of civil liberties, and produce economic gain. These claims include that the US government had advance knowledge about the attacks, the response of the military deliberately let the planes reach their targets, and the World Trade Center buildings 1, 2, and 7 underwent a controlled demolition.

In a March 17, 2009 New York Times article, Alan Feuer reported that Peter Joseph had indicated that he had “moved away from” his opinion on whether the September 11 attacks were an inside job perpetrated by the U.S. government.[7] Peter Joseph later stated that his stance on 9/11 had not changed.[15]

Part III: Don’t Mind the Men Behind the Curtain

Part III argues that three wars of the United States during the twentieth century were waged purely for economic gain by what the film refers to as “international bankers”. The film alleges that certain events were engineered as excuses to enter into war including the sinking of the RMS Lusitania, the attack on Pearl Harbor, and the Gulf of Tonkin Incident.

According to the film, the US was forced by the Federal Reserve Bank to become embroiled in these wars, not with a view to win but to sustain the conflict, as this forces the US government to borrow money from the bank, allegedly increasing the profits of the “international bankers”. The film then goes on to claim that the Federal Income Tax is illegal.

This section also claims the existence of a secret agreement to merge the United States, Canada and Mexico into a “North American Union“. The creation of this North American Union is then alleged to be a step towards the creation of “One World Government.” The film speculates that under such a government, every human could be implanted with an RFID chip to monitor individuals and suppress dissent.

An updated version of Zeitgeist released in 2010 removes the North American Union section among other changes.[16]

Akzle
28th February 2016, 20:52
Started to watch it until I realised I had better things to do with my time...
looked at synopsis ...
OMG...more religious drivel and conspiracy crap.


better to have tried and failed, than failed to try. Gold star for you.

Conspiracy crap eh. Shame it's mostly fact then uh.

Akzle
28th February 2016, 20:57
Looks very much like it.

http://www.amazon.com/Matrix-Power-Controlled-Powerful-Knowledge/dp/1585091200

yes i did actually search it.

Must make you wonder.... If so many people believe one thing...
(and they all arrived there independently...)

Woodman
28th February 2016, 22:10
My god, after Voltaires synopsis I am really really scared to watch it. Just seriously frightened, I wish I was brave like Katman and all the other people on planet talkback.

Voltaire
29th February 2016, 05:51
My god, after Voltaires synopsis I am really really scared to watch it. Just seriously frightened, I wish I was brave like Katman and all the other people on planet talkback.

Help is at hand, ring up Mike Hoskings for some informed insight :lol:

Watching that stuff is about as much use as watching clips on US Nukes and saying " I don't like them"

Voltaire
29th February 2016, 05:54
better to have tried and failed, than failed to try. Gold star for you.

Conspiracy crap eh. Shame it's mostly fact then uh.

Gold Star, do you buy into the systems labelling of achievement?

I'm far to busy with real things like choosing lawn mowers....

Facts maybe.

swarfie
29th February 2016, 06:11
I'm far to busy with real things like choosing lawn mowers....

Didn't think you had any lawn...to speak of anyway....or do you use one to chop the heads off the weeds when they poke through the cobbles?:lol:

Katman
29th February 2016, 06:58
My god, after Voltaires synopsis I am really really scared to watch it. Just seriously frightened, I wish I was brave like Katman and all the other people on planet talkback.

Scoff all you like but your refusal to watch the documentaries stems from a deep-rooted fear that to do so might require you to reassess everything you thought you knew.

mashman
29th February 2016, 07:02
My god, after Voltaires synopsis I am really really scared to watch it. Just seriously frightened, I wish I was brave like Katman and all the other people on planet talkback.

S'ok, I mind not that you're riding our coattails.... it's all you know how to do :eek:

bogan
29th February 2016, 07:02
might require you to reassess everything you thought you knew.

And if that video doesn't do it, you've got ten more lined up for afters :facepalm:

Have you watched the video I posted yet? Or does your Gish Gallop only go one way?

FlangMasterJ
29th February 2016, 07:58
I've seen the first a few times which I enjoyed but the second one (Addendum?) was a little over my head.

oldrider
29th February 2016, 10:14
Zeitgeist website home page: http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/index.html for those who may or may not be interested. :scratch:

Akzle
29th February 2016, 10:18
Lets see if it goes both ways...



You should watch this to learn some things https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hj7u3G_K6TA

not being one for the tubes, i instead read this (http://www.iep.utm.edu/aris-log/).

which doesnt seem to have anything to do with... well, anything.

perhaps you could sumarise the relevant points and share what you learned from it. and of course read that link and explain the differences between it and the video.



gishgallop indeed.

Woodman
29th February 2016, 11:21
Scoff all you like but your refusal to watch the documentaries stems from a deep-rooted fear that to do so might require you to reassess everything you thought you knew.

My god you are now stating absolutes about me.:cool:

Anyway , I am happy with what I know now, why the fuck would I spend time trying to find shit that could bring me down? Life is way too short for that.

Katman
29th February 2016, 11:37
Anyway , I am happy with what I know now, why the fuck would I spend time trying to find shit that could bring me down? Life is way too short for that.

<img src="http://www.metalsucks.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/sheep-redorbit.jpg"/>

Woodman
29th February 2016, 11:51
[QUOTE=Katman;1130951 picture of katmans missus[/QUOTE]

You are right on cue, predictable as ever, just like the poor, sad, deluded sheep that you are.

https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcToYmo3_okzOfVea4XT5HUAdM7cSHaM8-b1WDk-IG5wvAYzXTqy

oldrider
29th February 2016, 13:13
Meaning? :scratch:

zeitgeist
ˈzʌɪtɡʌɪst/
noun
noun: zeitgeist

the defining spirit or mood of a particular period of history as shown by the ideas and beliefs of the time.
I.E. "the story captured the zeitgeist of the late 1960s"

oldrider
29th February 2016, 13:48
I've seen the first a few times which I enjoyed but the second one (Addendum?) was a little over my head.

Addendum? = a search for Utopia? - unachievable? - well it is if we continue the direction we are taking currently - they are suggesting a change in that direction!

And yes it does take up a fair bit of time to sit watch and digest - hmm, truly something that I probably have more of than most! :corn:

<iframe width="640" height="360" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/EewGMBOB4Gg" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Akzle
29th February 2016, 14:19
And yes it does take up a fair bit of time to sit watch and digest - hmm, truly something that I probably have more of than most! :corn:

incorrect old son! The sun shines on each of us for the same number of hours a day, it's what we choose to put those hours to that counts, or not!

TheDemonLord
29th February 2016, 15:25
incorrect old son! The sun shines on each of us for the same number of hours a day, it's what we choose to put those hours to that counts, or not!

Incorrect.

Due to the curvature of the earth.

husaberg
29th February 2016, 15:30
incorrect old son! The sun shines on each of us for the same number of hours a day, it's what we choose to put those hours to that counts, or not!

Hilariously incorrect. The sun daylight hours are dependant on latitude and location as well as season and hemisphere.
Ie Aucklanders have less daylight hours that Southerners in Sumer, but more in winter.

Akzle
29th February 2016, 15:37
Incorrect.

Due to the curvature of the earth.

pretty sure, yet again, you miss the point entirely.

I also, being pedantic would have used the axis of the earth and the lattitude one is at, rather than the "curvature". Of course for there to be a difference, you'd have to be comparing it to someone who wasn't "here".

You can also minimise your sun exposure by going indoors, or wearing a hat. :cool: But hey.
If thats what you want to spend your hours doing....

bogan
29th February 2016, 17:47
perhaps you could sumarise the relevant points and share what you learned from it. and of course read that link and explain the differences between it and the video.

Thanks for confirming the double standard.

Gish Gallop most indeededly.

Voltaire
29th February 2016, 17:56
So, watch long winded explanation on how the world is controlled by the 1%, some Jews and the Rockerfellers....then what...buy a 10 acre block, go on the dole and drive old shitters?

husaberg
29th February 2016, 18:22
So, watch long winded explanation on how the world is controlled by the 1%, some Jews and the Rockerfellers....then what...buy a 10 acre block, go on the dole and drive old shitters?

Don't forget the goat HUSBANDRY.:msn-wink:

Akzle
29th February 2016, 18:28
Thanks for confirming the double standard.

Gish Gallop most indeededly.
so you're unable or unwilling to do what you expect of others?

So, watch long winded explanation on how the world is controlled by the 1%, some Jews and the Rockerfellers....then what...buy a 10 acre block, go on the dole and drive old shitters?

the idea has some merit

bogan
29th February 2016, 18:35
so you're unable or unwilling to do what you expect of others?

Wat? Did you watch the video I posted up or not? Obviously I'm unwilling to review it, as it was posted to illustrate the hypocrisy of those who post videos without such but expect other to view them... How can you possibly not have realised this? :weird:

Akzle
29th February 2016, 19:22
Wat? Did you watch the video I posted up or not? Obviously I'm unwilling to review it, as it was posted to illustrate the hypocrisy of those who post videos without such but expect other to view them... How can you possibly not have realised this? :weird:

so i dont have to watch it, and i can say you're outright wrong, from a position of ignorance...

bogan
29th February 2016, 19:27
so i dont have to watch it, and i can say you're outright wrong, from a position of ignorance...

No, that's not how it works either.

You can say 'I'm not watching it because there is no reason to do so'.

Katman
29th February 2016, 19:33
No, that's not how it works either.

And yet you believe you can offer critical evaluation of information that you refuse to view. :facepalm:

bogan
29th February 2016, 19:47
And yet you believe you can offer critical evaluation of information that you refuse to view. :facepalm:

Did you watch the video I posted then?

Woodman
29th February 2016, 19:57
And yet you believe you can offer critical evaluation of information that you refuse to view. :facepalm:

Do you read the shit the jehovas witness door knockers give out? Same reason we don't watch the videos you post up.

TheDemonLord
29th February 2016, 20:13
I see that the Kiwibiker Konspiracy Krew have yet again spectacularly failed to demonstrate basic understanding.

Allow me assist:

"Bogan - I think your video might be full of crap - could you summarize the key points from it before I waste my time watching it?"

If it's a GishGallop - Bogan won't be able to do that or will refuse to do it. Let's see if Bogan understands the video enough to cover off the key points.

bogan
29th February 2016, 20:24
I see that the Kiwibiker Konspiracy Krew have yet again spectacularly failed to demonstrate basic understanding.

Allow me assist:

"Bogan - I think your video might be full of crap - could you summarize the key points from it before I waste my time watching it?"

If it's a GishGallop - Bogan won't be able to do that or will refuse to do it. Let's see if Bogan understands the video enough to cover off the key points.

Let's not, no cunt summarised the video for me so I didn't watch it either :whistle: :laugh:

puddytat
29th February 2016, 20:28
Freedom of choice is a great thing.....
What you choose to believe is your choice.
What others choose to believe is their choice.

Simple really.

Where the problems start is when people want freedom from choice.
Because when you want freedom from choice ,you substitute freedom for being lead. And because you are being lead by choices others make for you, you are lulled in to a state of apathy.
Some don't like that.
Some do.

yokel
29th February 2016, 20:29
I see that the Kiwibiker Konspiracy Krew have yet again spectacularly failed to demonstrate basic understanding.

Allow me assist:

"Bogan - I think your video might be full of crap - could you summarize the key points from it before I waste my time watching it?"

If it's a GishGallop - Bogan won't be able to do that or will refuse to do it. Let's see if Bogan understands the video enough to cover off the key points.

It's not really the Kiwibiker Konspiracy Krew fault.
that fault lies with Bogan.

yokel
29th February 2016, 20:32
Let's not, no cunt summarised the video for me so I didn't watch it either :whistle: :laugh:

so you're lazy cunt, does your mummy still put food in ya mouth?

quite clearly you have no interest or curiosity.

Katman
29th February 2016, 20:34
Did you watch the video I posted then?

I watched about 20 minutes of it before deciding that it had absolutely nothing to do with the topic we're discussing here.

bogan
29th February 2016, 20:39
I watched about 20 minutes of it before deciding that it had absolutely nothing to do with the topic we're discussing here.

Ok, 20mins of which could have been saved by reading a summary in about 30 secs, had I wrote one.

Bee tee dubs, it has much to do with what we are discussing here, albeit at an oblique angle.

So here is another youtube to watch which will surely do a thing...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ImE6-3GuvhE

bogan
29th February 2016, 20:46
It's not really the Kiwibiker Konspiracy Krew fault.
that fault lies with Bogan.

Of course, how are you not getting that the fault I make is deliberate to illustrate and ridicule your propensity to post an unceasing supply of 'gish gallop' videos...

I mean I figured you had some degree of self reflection, and would identify it for what it was, but you've got akzy asking for a summary, katman actually watched some of the fucking thing. :facepalm:

yokel
29th February 2016, 20:57
Of course, how are you not getting that the fault I make is deliberate to illustrate and ridicule your propensity to post an unceasing supply of 'gish gallop' videos...

I mean I figured you had some degree of self reflection, and would identify it for what it was, but you've got akzy asking for a summary, katman actually watched some of the fucking thing. :facepalm:

Yes, it's pretty obvious you're just being an annoying little cunt.
If you don't have a comment directly related to the video then you have nothing.

bogan
29th February 2016, 21:01
Yes, it's pretty obvious you're just being an annoying little cunt.
If you don't have a comment directly related to the video then you have nothing.

That sounds like something that is not a comment directly related to the video I posted, nor even the video referenced by the OP :pinch:

Akzle
29th February 2016, 21:05
So here is another youtube to watch which will surely do a thing...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ImE6-3GuvhE

that isnt worth my time unless you can summarise it's relevance to the topic at hand.

(you realise in all the time you've spent wanking on this thread you could have watched the whole trilogy and actually had *something of value to contribute* - insert iron picture)

Katman
29th February 2016, 21:07
(you realise in all the time you've spent wanking on this thread you could have watched the whole trilogy and actually had *something of value to contribute* - insert iron picture)

Some of his 'critical evaluation' no doubt. :killingme

Akzle
29th February 2016, 21:10
Some of his 'critical evaluation' no doubt. :killingme

citation needed!


Roffle!

bogan
29th February 2016, 21:11
that isnt worth my time unless you can summarise it's relevance to the topic at hand.

(you realise in all the time you've spent wanking on this thread you could have watched the whole trilogy and actually had *something of value to contribute* - insert iron picture)

30 secs per post, do the math...

Woodman
29th February 2016, 21:14
Some of his 'critical evaluation' no doubt. :killingme


Why would you laugh at his critical evaluation? Is that your closed mind again.

Katman
29th February 2016, 21:47
Why would you laugh at his critical evaluation?

Because laughing at his mental handicap would probably be considered bad form.

Voltaire
1st March 2016, 05:46
Freedom of choice is a great thing.....
What you choose to believe is your choice.
What others choose to believe is their choice.

Simple really.

Where the problems start is when people want freedom from choice.
Because when you want freedom from choice ,you substitute freedom for being lead. And because you are being lead by choices others make for you, you are lulled in to a state of apathy.
Some don't like that.
Some do.

That is until someone or group wishes to force their choices on you, Religion being one example.
Here you just get the " I know what's happening in the world which makes you a sheep" over and over and over.

oldrider
1st March 2016, 08:57
That is until someone or group wishes to force their choices on you, Religion being one example.
Here you just get the " I know what's happening in the world which makes you a sheep" over and over and over.

There are different folks for different strokes - thankfully we are all not he same and each see the same picture slightly differently.

Psychologists have spent years trying to differentiate and place us into groups according to our behaviour and reactions to scenes situations etc.

If the different groups of personalities understand and appreciate each others point of view and work together for a targeted outcome it can be a very powerful tool.

KB is like a lot of free electrons rushing about colliding with each other creating friction and getting frustrated and aggressive toward each other.

I often wonder how many psychology students are out there among our KB members because if there are it would be a great place to practice their skills. :yes:

puddytat
1st March 2016, 19:45
That is until someone or group wishes to force their choices on you, Religion being one example.
Here you just get the " I know what's happening in the world which makes you a sheep" over and over and over.

Religion is probably the best example.....

As for the following sentence well that can be said for both sides in any discussion or argument....what gets me is that nowadays never the twain shall meet. Discussion here seems to always end in prissiness with no one seemingly able to compromise so as to achieve some kind of solution or agreement.
Doesn't bode well for the future.
We cant keep dismissing each others opinions of what is the right way or, the wrong way.
Ego rules us all.....& will be our undoing.

"If the different groups of personalities understand and appreciate each others point of view and work together for a targeted outcome it can be a very powerful tool."
Right on Oldy:niceone:

Voltaire
1st March 2016, 19:53
Religion is probably the best example.....

As for the following sentence well that can be said for both sides in any discussion or argument....what gets me is that nowadays never the twain shall meet. Discussion here seems to always end in prissiness with no one seemingly able to compromise so as to achieve some kind of solution or agreement.
Doesn't bode well for the future.
We cant keep dismissing each others opinions of what is the right way or, the wrong way.
Ego rules us all.....& will be our undoing.

"If the different groups of personalities understand and appreciate each others point of view and work together for a targeted outcome it can be a very powerful tool."
Right on Oldy:niceone:

I agree with you, a line rarely seen here :laugh:

yokel
1st March 2016, 20:00
That sounds like something that is not a comment directly related to the video I posted, nor even the video referenced by the OP :pinch:

My comments would not exist if it were not for your unrelated jibber jabber.

I've watched most of the OP vid, didn't see anything on how deflation fits into their money plan? maybe go cashless?


30 secs per post, do the math...

This is reflected by the quality of your comments.

bogan
1st March 2016, 20:10
My comments would not exist if it were not for your unrelated jibber jabber.

I've watched most of the OP vid, didn't see anything on how deflation fits into their money plan? maybe go cashless?



This is reflected by the quality of your comments.

My comments would not exist if some numpty didn't post some numpty arse shit with no realted jibber jabber. I was even referenced by name, what's your excuse?

And another thing.

yokel
1st March 2016, 20:20
My comments would not exist if some numpty didn't post some numpty arse shit with no realted jibber jabber. I was even referenced by name, what's your excuse?

And another thing.

I don't like ignorant cunts.

bogan
1st March 2016, 20:22
I don't like ignorant cunts.

How unfortunate for the mirror industry :laugh:

husaberg
1st March 2016, 21:41
I don't like ignorant cunts.

I'm not surprised, Self loathing is the seat of Narcissist disorders.:weird:

Katman
1st March 2016, 21:52
I'm not surprised, Self loathing is the seat of Narcissist disorders.:weird:

Is that like repeatedly proving yourself to be a total utter moron in public?

husaberg
1st March 2016, 22:01
Is that like repeatedly proving yourself to be a total utter moron in public?

Its uncannily like all of your posts. Don't tell me you never seriously considered why you post all this crap?
Its a shame, because no matter how much abuse you hurl around. It isn't going to change how defective and insignificant you really are.
Hence your compulsive need to troll.

Katman
1st March 2016, 22:04
Don't tell me you never seriously considered why you post all this crap?


Well it certainly seems to get you, bogan and TheLardBoy all bent out of shape.

bogan
1st March 2016, 22:08
Well it certainly seems to get you, bogan and TheLardBoy all bent out of shape.

All is not as they seem, 'big logic' is just having a laugh :laugh:

husaberg
1st March 2016, 22:11
Well it certainly seems to get you, bogan and TheLardBoy all bent out of shape.

So you troll post strictly for the attention, Yeah that's normal (for a Narcisstic Personality Disorder);)

Katman
1st March 2016, 22:12
All is not as they seem, 'big logic' is just having a laugh :laugh:

You clicked 'view post' again, didn't you?

Akzle
1st March 2016, 22:17
I was even referenced by name, what's your excuse


and you couldn't manage what was asked and have contributed fuckall since.

bogan
1st March 2016, 22:26
You clicked 'view post' again, didn't you?

Username useage notification.


and you couldn't manage what was asked and have contributed fuckall since.

It's a dumbarse thing to ask, from one who has contributed fuck all.