2012 Kawasaki Ninja damaged - Cost estimate to repair please.

[NewBikeBuyer]

Hey,

Found a damaged bike that is in need of some repairs was wondering if anyone who was experienced with bikes could help me relieve a few things.

Firstly the gear lever clearly bent, along with the shifter linkage, would anyone know the cost of replacing this piece or if its fixable?

Secondly is it normal for the gear lever to be able to lifted past 180 degrees that it snaps backwards.

Thirdly replacement cost of an indicator.

Fourthly replacement cost of a full fairing set?

Link to the pictures of the damage.
http://imgur.com/a/MWaKB

If you need more info please ask, far from an expert but I'm not stupid.

Thanks for any advice you guys can give me.

[Akzle]

I'm not stupid.


didnt do much market research ahead of posting here though, did ya.

[Akzle]

its been binned. You will not know the extent of the damage. Being "no expert": Dont bother.

Ps. All of this shit is easily searchable, if you could engage that "not stupid" and make use of the facilities.

[JimO]

its been binned. You will not know the extent of the damage. Being "no expert": Dont bother.

Ps. All of this shit is easily searchable, if you could engage that "not stupid" and make use of the facilities.
somebody crawled out of the wrong side of the hedge this morning?

[Akzle]

somebody crawled out of the wrong side of the hedge this morning?

was it you?

[NewBikeBuyer]

Ok I'm feeling a bit of hostility. Anyway boys will be boys.

Anyone got any constructive advice?

[husaberg]

Ok I'm feeling a bit of hostility. Anyway boys will be boys.

Anyone got any constructive advice?

Add axhole onto ignore. He has no bike and knows bugger all about them regardless.
If you are unsure, or the bike isn't dirt cheap, steer clear of binned bikes.

[Gremlin]

Anyone got any constructive advice?
If you assume it was insured, then in incident, insurance has written it off as it's too expensive to repair. This doesn't make it impossible to repair, as insurance will quote to replace anything damaged with brand new factory stuff etc. Fairings alone can easily write a bike off.

However, if you don't know what you're doing you could be buying yourself a black hole. Also, the smaller bike shops (1-2 man band type ones) may buy them to repair then sell off for a small profit, so if this is an auction, you're up against people that really do know what they're doing (ie, when they stop bidding they've decided it's uneconomic).

Those are the parts you list. Take it to a Kwaka dealer and they can tell you the price. Alternatively, you could import 2nd hand fairings, or Just Fairings here may have the right mould for you. Or you can get it plastic welded/painted or do it yourself. However, what if the frame has taken a hit, or swingarm, or something is out of shape. It quickly turns from a little project to a nightmare.

Ultimately, unless you're actually capable (think metal/plastic welding, straightening) then you're likely going to end up paying someone to do that work... which costs more.

[NewBikeBuyer]

Add axhole onto ignore. He has no bike and knows bugger all about them regardless.
If you are unsure, or the bike isn't dirt cheap, steer clear of binned bikes.

Not too worried about the kids,

This bike is 95% brand new so I wouldn't really consider it binned, its definitely savable.

Has anyone got any links to some online part retailers?

Also if anyone could give a rough estimate on cost of two side fairings, a front fairing, new gear lever, an indicator, new dash plastics.

[JimO]

was it you?
no i live under a bridge

[NewBikeBuyer]

If you assume it was insured, then in incident, insurance has written it off as it's too expensive to repair. This doesn't make it impossible to repair, as insurance will quote to replace anything damaged with brand new factory stuff etc. Fairings alone can easily write a bike off.

However, if you don't know what you're doing you could be buying yourself a black hole. Also, the smaller bike shops (1-2 man band type ones) may buy them to repair then sell off for a small profit, so if this is an auction, you're up against people that really do know what they're doing (ie, when they stop bidding they've decided it's uneconomic).

Those are the parts you list. Take it to a Kwaka dealer and they can tell you the price. Alternatively, you could import 2nd hand fairings, or Just Fairings here may have the right mould for you. Or you can get it plastic welded/painted or do it yourself. However, what if the frame has taken a hit, or swingarm, or something is out of shape. It quickly turns from a little project to a nightmare.

Ultimately, unless you're actually capable (think metal/plastic welding, straightening) then you're likely going to end up paying someone to do that work... which costs more.

That is some solid advice, thanks.

The bike has definitely not been impacted by anything, to me it looks as if the rider has come of on a left corner and its slid out.

[Mike.Gayner]

That bike would have to be insanely cheap for me to bother with it.

[NewBikeBuyer]

That bike would have to be insanely cheap for me to bother with it.


2500 considered cheap?

[Mike.Gayner]

Not nearly cheap enough. Fuck buying someone else's write off for $2.5k.

[Moi]

Has it been de-registered?

If it has, add all of that to the cost of putting it back on the road...

[NewBikeBuyer]

Not nearly cheap enough. Fuck buying someone else's write off for $2.5k.

I think you may be right.

[WristTwister]

That bike might be worth $5000 in good condition. The damage could be more serious than what we can see, I think you'll need to have it properly inspected if it's been in a serious crash.

You might save some money getting non-OEM fairings, and spend it on some nice custom levers. You can go through the parts bin here http://www.revzilla.com/parts/2012-kawasaki-ninja-250r# see how it adds up and if it's worth while fixing it.

[NewBikeBuyer]

That bike might be worth $5000 in good condition. The damage could be more serious than what we can see, I think you'll need to have it properly inspected if it's been in a serious crash.

You might save some money getting non-OEM fairings, and spend it on some nice custom levers. You can go through the parts bin here http://www.revzilla.com/parts/2012-kawasaki-ninja-250r# see how it adds up and if it's worth while fixing it.

That's what im thinking as well, everythings pretty good mechanically just cosmetically broken.

[caspernz]

If you don't know your stuff, leave it alone. Cheaper in the long run...

[neels]

Gear lever issue could possibly be due to the bent linkage allowing it to overcentre, best way to check would be to disconnect it from the shifter and see if the gearbox still operates to select all of the gears. Plastic bits are expensive even for a low budget bike. If it's been dropped you need to consider if it has spent time lying on it's side still running with possibly no oil being pumped around the engine.

If you were buying it to ride and just wanted to patch it up to legal then probably worth it, you can do a lot with a plastic glue gun and auto filler to make a bike presentable enough, but by the time you've bought the bits to make it pretty again there's not likely to be any profit in it.

[NewBikeBuyer]

Gear lever issue could possibly be due to the bent linkage allowing it to overcentre, best way to check would be to disconnect it from the shifter and see if the gearbox still operates to select all of the gears. Plastic bits are expensive even for a low budget bike. If it's been dropped you need to consider if it has spent time lying on it's side still running with possibly no oil being pumped around the engine.

If you were buying it to ride and just wanted to patch it up to legal then probably worth it, you can do a lot with a plastic glue gun and auto filler to make a bike presentable enough, but by the time you've bought the bits to make it pretty again there's not likely to be any profit in it.

Oh thanks, the linkage is shorter with it being bent so maybe that is the case. Gearbox works perfectly with the lever at the moment so no troubles there. Does anyone know what a 250 ninja would sell for if I parted it out?

[Erelyes]

Does anyone know what a 250 ninja would sell for if I parted it out?

Yep, you'll know. HTH.

[Mike.Gayner]

The parts are worth nothing on these bikes because every dick drops theirs. If you're looking at this bike for $2,500 hoping to flip it and make a profit, think again.

[Asher]

Guessing a lot of the prices and assuming you buy from eBay and not a local shop:
Aftermarket fairings: $700 or it might be cheaper to get the existing fairings plastic welded and repainted.
Gear lever and linkage: $150
Indicator:$30
So assuming there is no more damage it shouldn't cost around $1000 but you should budget at least another $500 for damaged parts you can't see.

Also when it comes to selling it people won't like that it has aftermarket fairings and is a crash repair job (even minor), so don't expect to flip it and make much of a profit.

[Akzle]

Guessing a lot of the prices and assuming you buy from eBay and not a local shop:
Aftermarket fairings: $700 or it might be cheaper to get the existing fairings plastic welded and repainted.
Gear lever and linkage: $150
Indicator:$30
So assuming there is no more damage it shouldn't cost around $1000 but you should budget at least another $500 for damaged parts you can't see.

Also when it comes to selling it people won't like that it has aftermarket fairings and is a crash repair job (even minor), so don't expect to flip it and make much of a profit.

plus the stanchys, triples, swingarm...

[Big Dog]

Not too worried about the kids,

This bike is 95% brand new so I wouldn't really consider it binned, its definitely savable.

Has anyone got any links to some online part retailers?

Also if anyone could give a rough estimate on cost of two side fairings, a front fairing, new gear lever, an indicator, new dash plastics.
Mrcycles.com will give you an idea... local pricing will be more but with less freight. Expensive small pieces will work out cheaper, larger pieces will cost nearly the same in freight.

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[Big Dog]

Given the new cost, resale value and the damage you can see... assuming single vehicle accident with no road furniture I would top dollar at 1500 after looking at it in person and hearing the engine run.

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[Lelitu]

Not too worried about the kids,

This bike is 95% brand new so I wouldn't really consider it binned, its definitely savable.

Has anyone got any links to some online part retailers?

Also if anyone could give a rough estimate on cost of two side fairings, a front fairing, new gear lever, an indicator, new dash plastics.

To bin a bike is to crash.
Given the damage listed, it's been crashed, thus binned.

Other than that, really don't have anything else to add to this thread, except perhaps a personal tale of woe.

At one stage in the not so distant past, I had an SV1000-S. Some cheeky little fuck tried and failed to pinch it one day.

Damage that I could see: Broken steering lock, bent clipons. Estimated repair, somewhere about $400 in parts, plus effort to fix it. Enough to declare it an insurance job, and let the shop take care of it all
Turns out this was one of the better ideas I've ever had.

Damage the shop found: Broken steering lock, bent clipons, gouged frame (from where the steering lock pin was), cracked top triple clamp. Total cost >$1500, nearly enough to trigger a writeoff.

If you don't know enough to have a fair idea of the cost before going in, can you be sure that you'll be able to spot and diagnose all the hidden shit.

[FJRider]

... everythings pretty good mechanically just cosmetically broken.

If you are so sure of that ... why did you start this thread.

What you can't see and can't know ... is often the thing that kills a "good project" ...

If you take it to a motorcycle workshop to get appraised ... without pulling it apart and checking for all possible damage ... you would get their best guess of what could be wrong. And unlikely to be any different than the guesses already stated in this thread.

The full check will cost you money for time they spend checking. Are you willing to spend money getting a full check .. ???


How much would you be willing to spend on it ... ???

[actungbaby]

Not nearly cheap enough. Fuck buying someone else's write off for $2.5k.

agreed 1k be more like it i brought my vfr 750 for 1k but i spent over 2k

just on second hand parts so no its not worth it